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  • 6/18/2025
Why one strategist sees higher oil as a price shock and what it means for your money.

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00:00What about oil prices? Still sharply higher for the month of June.
00:03What impact could that have on the inflation story?
00:06Yeah, so I don't view oil prices as being early cycle inflation.
00:11I tend to view it as being later cycle, hurt the consumer.
00:15So I would expect all other goods to not have the same type of demand
00:19if we're spending more at the pump.
00:22So I wouldn't view it as inflation.
00:24I would view it as a price shock.
00:26Again, talk about war or drought or policies that cause these price shocks.
00:31I would view it as being anti-growth rather than pro-inflation.
00:36Have the latest geopolitical events changed the way you look at energy stocks
00:41or even defense names as a way to hedge against some of the risk?
00:46Yeah, I think so.
00:46I mean, you would want to own commodities in your portfolio
00:50for events like these certainly well-positioned energy majors.
00:54You know, defense stocks were likely to do well anyway,
00:58given what we've heard out of the Europeans,
01:00what we've heard out of the Germans in terms of the defense spending
01:03and the infrastructure investment that we're expecting over there.
01:06So they're well-positioned.
01:08And in a world of geopolitical or trade conflict,
01:11I think defense and aerospace can do well in that environment.
01:14But yeah, I mean, the nice thing about commodities
01:17is you don't need to own a lot in the portfolio for them to have the intended effect.
01:22So investors tend to be, I want to jump into commodities when there's conflict.
01:28If you want to have a persistent, call it 5%, 10% position in commodities,
01:33it can help smooth the volatility of a portfolio over a longer term period
01:37because we know these types of things unfortunately always come up.
01:41You're not saying jump in right now as a way to hedge.
01:44I'm not saying jump in right now because I would say you'd want to own commodities as a hedge,
01:48but you don't want to jump in to think that, you know, oil's now going to $100 a barrel.
01:54I mean, you could end up fairly quickly with some negotiated ceasefire.
02:00And the other thing you have is, again, leading indicators in the U.S. pointing lower.
02:04And the U.S. is pretty awash in oil, right?
02:06All-time highs, 13.5 million barrels of oil being produced per day.
02:10So, no, I wouldn't view it as this is the next great investment opportunity.
02:17I would view it as, to your point, a hedge in the portfolio.

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