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Miriam Cates has lambasted MPs for voting in favour of decriminalising abortion after 24 weeks, branding the move "barbaric".Speaking to GB News, the former Conservative MP and People's Channel presenter expressed her outrage at the decision and stressed that a mother can now choose to terminate a pregnancy "even during birth".FULL STORY HERE.

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00:00Because Miriam, I know, has got incredibly strong feelings. Hi, Miriam, about this abortion story.
00:07I mean, it just seems so. So now in Britain, if you am wrong about this,
00:13if you wanted to abort your child at eight months, three weeks, you could do it.
00:19Yes, a woman would be lawfully allowed to terminate her own pregnancy at eight weeks,
00:25eight months or even nine months or even during birth and not face criminal prosecution.
00:32And I think a lot of people are pretty shocked that MPs have done this.
00:35Just one percent of the public support abortion to birth. It wasn't in anybody's manifesto.
00:41Nobody talked about this before the election. And a couple of MPs have introduced this amendment into a bill.
00:47It's completely unrelated, a bill about policing and crime.
00:50So I think many people will find this very, very shocking.
00:53And I think that the arguments put forward by those who seek to decriminalise abortion is that women should not face prosecution
01:01when they're at a vulnerable point. There might be a reason why they've ended the pregnancy.
01:06And of course, I think we can all emphasise with that.
01:08But there's no point having a law if there aren't consequences for breaking it.
01:12And I think we can see that if you look at small boats or cannabis or shoplifting,
01:16which have all effectively been decriminalised. And guess what? We see a lot more of it.
01:20And I'm afraid that is what we're going to see with these dangerous late term abortions.
01:24Do you think they're murder or infanticide, I suppose, is the technical term?
01:29Well, I think it is hard to conclude otherwise, because the moment a baby is born,
01:35if you killed that baby, that would be infanticide and you'd be imprisoned for life.
01:39And it doesn't make biological or ethical sense that moments before that,
01:44you could kill that same child and it be lawful. That doesn't make any sense.
01:49And I think what's if we look at the example of other jurisdictions where they have done this decriminalised abortion to birth.
01:57So the three there are three main examples, New Zealand, Victoria and Australia and Canada.
02:01They've all seen a dramatic rise in late term abortions.
02:04And if you think about what actually has to happen to the baby in that circumstance, it still has to be delivered.
02:10They attempt to kill it before birth, but it's not always successful.
02:14Some babies are born alive and then left to die.
02:17And what actually happens to the baby in that circumstance is horrific.
02:21And everybody's supportive of women and women's rights.
02:24And there's obviously a strong pro-choice movement in this country.
02:27But there is a baby involved.
02:28And the vast majority of people think that beyond the 24 week point, when a baby is fully viable outside the womb,
02:36it is it is immoral and frankly barbaric to end its life.
02:40Yeah. I mean, and where has this come from?
02:44Has this literally come from a couple of MPs just just dropping in?
02:49Because I did see an interesting tweet about this, which was that basically Labour has used his whopping great big majority
02:56to push through unbelievably drastic social change in this sense that was never in its manifesto.
03:02And I thought this is the kind of thing I'm not, you know, OK, we've had a referendum with mixed results last time for a lot of people.
03:09And the way that was enacted was a bit appalling.
03:11But it is not the kind of thing we should have a referendum on, really.
03:14Well, I think that's right. When MPs are seeking to do something that's so out of step with public opinion
03:20and has not been put in any manifesto, so there's been no public say on it at all, I'd agree.
03:26But I know I think you've put your your finger on it over Brexit.
03:29This is another example of MPs being incredibly out of step with public opinion.
03:35Brexit is an example. Illegal immigration.
03:37The grooming gangs, of course, at net zero, where Parliament has such different views to the general public.
03:44That actually they are now using that power to impose things on the public that are against the public will.
03:51And this is the problem with free votes, because this vote was a conscience vote.
03:55MPs can vote however they like, even though it's part of a broader government bill.
03:59They can vote however they like, which means MPs can choose not to vote.
04:02They can choose not to speak. And no political party or government takes a responsibility.
04:07They can just say nothing to do with us. This was brought by back benches.
04:10And I think that's quite dangerous.

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