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Worms to the rescue – using enzymes to tackle plastic waste
DW (English)
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6/17/2025
Biologist Federica Bertocchini discovered that wax worms can perforate plastic. And break it down - thanks to special enzymes.
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00:01
Everybody gets fascinated by these animals.
00:04
They are extremely resistant to planeting, to lack of oxygen, to cold.
00:11
I mean, it's not scientifically proven. These are observations.
00:15
But if you keep them at four degrees for many weeks, if you put them out,
00:19
they don't die, they just recover again.
00:23
For people not working with insects, they're not great.
00:27
They're not great. It looks like a fly, you know, this fly larvae, the one that people use to fish.
00:33
But then you explain a little bit what it's about, and it's already, you know, smoothing people.
00:39
Like, okay, so the stuff is getting interesting.
00:42
I think at some point you stop seeing the worm as it is, and you see some potential behind there.
00:50
I'm Federica Bertocchini. I'm a biologist, and I'm a co-founder of a start-up called Plastic Entropy,
00:56
which is hosted here in France.
01:00
And I work on plastic degradation using biological systems, particularly a worm, commonly called worse worm.
01:10
They can help us to solve the problem of all this plastic we see around,
01:15
try to get rid of that, transform it into something which is not a poison for us, for humans.
01:23
I realized that these worms were making holes in the plastic.
01:27
Not just making, I can make a hole with the finger, but just transforming it into something different.
01:33
I like environment, in fact, and probably to escape from the lab because you spend all your life at the microscope in a lab.
01:40
So I developed this hobby, which is beekeeping. I'm a beekeeper as an amateur.
01:47
It happens that the beehives are plagued with an animal, which is infected with worm.
01:53
And so I was cleaning one of my beehives and putting all these worms that were infested in my beehive in a plastic bag,
01:59
and then realized there were holes within 40 minutes, half hour, an hour.
02:04
And then I'm curious, and the curiosity is unstoppable. Let's try to investigate that.
02:09
We found enzymes which the worm itself produce, which are in the saliva,
02:14
and enzymes applied singularly and produced in a lab can actually break down the plastic.
02:21
Because this was the, the major achievement is the discovery of the enzymes.
02:25
Now we start producing the protein in the lab, that's when you are really, really happy.
02:30
When the first discovery came up, I was unemployed.
02:34
When I managed to get some money, it took two years to start over again.
02:38
So these two years, those two years and a little bit, they were stuffed.
02:41
And so, absolutely, we all know what's happening to plastic.
02:44
There is no solution that most of the plastics burn or we're accumulated in the environment.
02:51
Looking at the numbers, all over the world is 9% recycled.
02:54
And when you recycle it, the technology as it is now is not good enough.
02:59
You can recycle only a couple of times.
03:03
I never advocate for the use of worms, because the worms also, they can chew on plastic.
03:07
And in fact, when you look at the faeces, you have some small microplastics,
03:14
so you don't want to release millions of worms and then not controlling the situation
03:20
because you have to collect the faeces.
03:22
You need to have a controlled environment to use that.
03:25
And so it's something you really control very well.
03:27
I advocate for the enzymes.
03:31
The industry wants a solution in six months that could be economically favourable.
03:37
And we cannot provide that.
03:39
We cannot provide something which can compete with the burning.
03:43
It's been tough.
03:44
And knowing that in advance, maybe I would have thought twice,
03:48
because it's been really a challenge.
03:52
Worms, proteins, polymers, degradation.
03:58
I didn't know anything of those.
04:01
And when I don't know anything, I go to collaborate and I'm not afraid of my mistake.
04:05
I make a mistake and sometimes I think, wow, it wasn't a great performance.
04:08
It doesn't matter because from the mistakes you learn.
04:10
My contact with the RANS started a few years ago because I came here to give a TED talk at Sciences Po in France.
04:18
So that was interesting.
04:19
We moved here.
04:20
We are an incubator here.
04:21
So we get some little bit of funding from the environment.
04:27
We should all work together.
04:28
We really should stick together because there are a handful of these animals and there are more we are finding.
04:35
And there is no coordinated field.
04:39
We never had a meeting to get all of us together.
04:41
That's what we need to do.
04:42
Otherwise, everyone on his own won't get anywhere.
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