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  • 6/16/2025
Writer/Director/Actor Isabel Hagen talks to Fest Track about perspective, humor and "staying present" in regards to her film: "On A String" playing the US Narrative Competition section of the 2025 Tribeca Film Festival in New York, New York.
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00:00This is Tim Wassberg from FastTrack on CERF TV.
00:29I'm here in New York City for the Tribeca Films.
00:32Is the aspect of expectation, you know, the acceptance of who you are, but the expectation
00:37of what you could be.
00:38I mean, look, and I've talked to many students who have gone to Juilliard.
00:42There's a sense of like what you can be, what you want to do, but also what the education
00:47allows you.
00:49And also the idea, I went to NYU.
00:52So, you know, you do those things where you're like, well, how far will this get me?
00:56And then how much will who I am get me where to where I need to be?
01:00Can you talk about expectation?
01:02Not just as a musician and a filmmaker, but, you know, looking at expectations of your character
01:08in the film.
01:08Again, it's a parallel.
01:09But could you talk about that?
01:11Because you have a unique experience because very few people get to go to Juilliard.
01:16Yeah, I find that having expectations leads you much quicker to facing life's inevitable
01:24limitations.
01:26And that was a theme that I really was playing with in the film.
01:30There's limitations to everything.
01:32There's limitations in your relationships with certain people.
01:36There's limitations to what happens in your life.
01:38It's not all in your control.
01:39But ultimately, I hope that people come away with feeling an acceptance of certain limitations.
01:46And when you accept the limitations, actually, the possibilities are kind of endless in a
01:50way.
01:51I know that's kind of a meta roundabout foo-foo thing to say, but.
02:00Isn't this what you wanted?
02:02I just.
02:04I don't know.
02:06You don't know.
02:07Do you not like the ring?
02:12No, no, I.
02:13I love the ring.
02:21You can stop.
02:25Sorry, can you.
02:28You can go.
02:30Yeah.
02:30Okay.
02:37It's all about perspective and perception.
02:42You know, your perspective.
02:44Look, you being at the premiere last night, looking at these people, seeing what you're
02:49making, and then you actually playing music with some of the same people.
02:52It's an interesting sort of perspective because they're perceiving you a certain way.
02:57And yet you're perceiving them perceiving you, if you want to get existential about it.
03:03But can you talk about perspective and perception now putting a film like this that you've worked
03:07very hard on out to an audience in your home city?
03:12Could you talk about that?
03:13Yeah, well, watching it last night, it almost felt like a little time capsule, you know,
03:18because also there's a delay with filmmaking.
03:20You know, we shot all of this over a year ago and I wrote it even longer before.
03:24And now we're all here today watching it in my home city where I've lived my like since,
03:30you know, 30 years ago.
03:32And yeah, it was a really wild experience.
03:36And I'm so happy we got to premiere it in the city.
03:38It was shot and also the city where I'm from.
03:40It felt very, you know, organic and right to do that.
03:44But can you talk about the humor?
03:46You know, because the humor, you can write it and then performing it's a completely different
03:51thing because the only way for humor to work is for the stakes to be there as well.
03:57You know, you want running and grabbing your friend from that back room, you know,
04:02it doesn't work unless you've had that experience with her in the in the rehearsal and a little
04:09bit of humor.
04:09So the stakes reflect in the humor and vice versa.
04:13Can you talk about that?
04:14Because that's why a lot of the film works is because it understands the balance of these
04:18things.
04:20Thank you for saying that.
04:21And one of the I hope I achieved the following, which is that I wanted all the humor to come
04:27from not super contrived situations, but maybe if there was an element of a
04:32ridiculousness or heightened awkwardness still like this could happen.
04:37And I think if it feels more real, that can make it that much funnier.
04:41So that was something I was always striving to do.
04:44And yes, the state it's all in context, right?
04:47Humor is is always needing to be in context.
04:49That's why a lot of standup comedy doesn't age.
04:51Well, you watch like really old comedians and, you know, because it's totally out of context
04:56of the time that they're in.
04:57And so, yes, you have to contextualize the humor and the timing.
05:00Oh, do you need my payment info?
05:02Oh, do you take cash?
05:18And my last question, because we've touched on it sort of, you know, peripherally.
05:48But the aspect of the actor being the actor and then the lead in this, you know, but also
05:55balancing it with the musicality in there and always obviously the the the awkward musicality,
06:02because you play a lot of these things in there where it's not perfect.
06:06And that's on purpose.
06:07And we understand that.
06:08But can you talk about being the actor, being the character in front, but also bringing sort
06:15of your musicality into that?
06:19I know it's hard to separate the director from the actor in this instance, but can you
06:22talk about you as the actor and the thought process as far as your approach, because she's
06:29a musician, you're a musician, you know, she's in New York, you're in New York, obviously
06:33lots of parallels, but you have to make it your own.
06:35Right.
06:36Right.
06:37Well, there is a funny experience when you're an actor and director in the same film.
06:42You know, there's even more observation going on because I'm one trying to do my best, but
06:50also while people are performing, I'm also thinking, OK, what are the notes I would give
06:54them next time?
06:56Next time, you know, it's you have to really stay truly present.
07:00But I but I kind of took on an extra role of the observer again, which is what I do as
07:06a musician in the gigs and in real life.
07:09So, yeah, it was this combination of being sometimes an observer and sometimes the subject
07:16and then sometimes both at the same time.
07:19And it's a fun and interesting experience for sure.
07:23I did want to add a follow up just because you were talking about notes, of course, notes
07:27makes me think musicality, but it brought to mind a different word pitch, you know, because
07:34pitch is, you know, even when you're talking about the metric, but the pitch is what makes
07:39it pitch can be sort of, I think, equalized with tone in many ways.
07:44But can you talk about what for you in this reflects the right pitch?
07:49What is the pitch of this film?
07:51Not the pitch, the logline, but the pitch.
07:53Right.
07:55I don't know if I could verbalize like a pitch, but yeah, exactly.
07:59But I, you know, what's the feeling?
08:01What's the feeling that you get from the film?
08:03I want the film to feel like a song, you know, I want it to sing.
08:08And even though it's it's really uncomfortable and painful at certain times, hopefully at the
08:15end, you feel like you've just sung a song or you're witnessing someone just sing.
08:23And you, you know, what's the feeling?
08:24I don't know.
08:26I don't know.
08:30I don't know.
08:31I don't know.
08:32I don't know.
08:34We'll see you next time.

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