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Fest Track On Sirk TV Film Interview: ON A STRING [Tribeca Film Festival 2025 - New York , NY] - Part II
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6/16/2025
Writer/Director/Actor Isabel Hagen talks to Fest Track about perspective, humor and "staying present" in regards to her film: "On A String" playing the US Narrative Competition section of the 2025 Tribeca Film Festival in New York, New York.
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This is Tim Wassberg from FastTrack on CERF TV.
00:29
I'm here in New York City for the Tribeca Films.
00:32
Is the aspect of expectation, you know, the acceptance of who you are, but the expectation
00:37
of what you could be.
00:38
I mean, look, and I've talked to many students who have gone to Juilliard.
00:42
There's a sense of like what you can be, what you want to do, but also what the education
00:47
allows you.
00:49
And also the idea, I went to NYU.
00:52
So, you know, you do those things where you're like, well, how far will this get me?
00:56
And then how much will who I am get me where to where I need to be?
01:00
Can you talk about expectation?
01:02
Not just as a musician and a filmmaker, but, you know, looking at expectations of your character
01:08
in the film.
01:08
Again, it's a parallel.
01:09
But could you talk about that?
01:11
Because you have a unique experience because very few people get to go to Juilliard.
01:16
Yeah, I find that having expectations leads you much quicker to facing life's inevitable
01:24
limitations.
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And that was a theme that I really was playing with in the film.
01:30
There's limitations to everything.
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There's limitations in your relationships with certain people.
01:36
There's limitations to what happens in your life.
01:38
It's not all in your control.
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But ultimately, I hope that people come away with feeling an acceptance of certain limitations.
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And when you accept the limitations, actually, the possibilities are kind of endless in a
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way.
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I know that's kind of a meta roundabout foo-foo thing to say, but.
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Isn't this what you wanted?
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I just.
02:04
I don't know.
02:06
You don't know.
02:07
Do you not like the ring?
02:12
No, no, I.
02:13
I love the ring.
02:21
You can stop.
02:25
Sorry, can you.
02:28
You can go.
02:30
Yeah.
02:30
Okay.
02:37
It's all about perspective and perception.
02:42
You know, your perspective.
02:44
Look, you being at the premiere last night, looking at these people, seeing what you're
02:49
making, and then you actually playing music with some of the same people.
02:52
It's an interesting sort of perspective because they're perceiving you a certain way.
02:57
And yet you're perceiving them perceiving you, if you want to get existential about it.
03:03
But can you talk about perspective and perception now putting a film like this that you've worked
03:07
very hard on out to an audience in your home city?
03:12
Could you talk about that?
03:13
Yeah, well, watching it last night, it almost felt like a little time capsule, you know,
03:18
because also there's a delay with filmmaking.
03:20
You know, we shot all of this over a year ago and I wrote it even longer before.
03:24
And now we're all here today watching it in my home city where I've lived my like since,
03:30
you know, 30 years ago.
03:32
And yeah, it was a really wild experience.
03:36
And I'm so happy we got to premiere it in the city.
03:38
It was shot and also the city where I'm from.
03:40
It felt very, you know, organic and right to do that.
03:44
But can you talk about the humor?
03:46
You know, because the humor, you can write it and then performing it's a completely different
03:51
thing because the only way for humor to work is for the stakes to be there as well.
03:57
You know, you want running and grabbing your friend from that back room, you know,
04:02
it doesn't work unless you've had that experience with her in the in the rehearsal and a little
04:09
bit of humor.
04:09
So the stakes reflect in the humor and vice versa.
04:13
Can you talk about that?
04:14
Because that's why a lot of the film works is because it understands the balance of these
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things.
04:20
Thank you for saying that.
04:21
And one of the I hope I achieved the following, which is that I wanted all the humor to come
04:27
from not super contrived situations, but maybe if there was an element of a
04:32
ridiculousness or heightened awkwardness still like this could happen.
04:37
And I think if it feels more real, that can make it that much funnier.
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So that was something I was always striving to do.
04:44
And yes, the state it's all in context, right?
04:47
Humor is is always needing to be in context.
04:49
That's why a lot of standup comedy doesn't age.
04:51
Well, you watch like really old comedians and, you know, because it's totally out of context
04:56
of the time that they're in.
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And so, yes, you have to contextualize the humor and the timing.
05:00
Oh, do you need my payment info?
05:02
Oh, do you take cash?
05:18
And my last question, because we've touched on it sort of, you know, peripherally.
05:48
But the aspect of the actor being the actor and then the lead in this, you know, but also
05:55
balancing it with the musicality in there and always obviously the the the awkward musicality,
06:02
because you play a lot of these things in there where it's not perfect.
06:06
And that's on purpose.
06:07
And we understand that.
06:08
But can you talk about being the actor, being the character in front, but also bringing sort
06:15
of your musicality into that?
06:19
I know it's hard to separate the director from the actor in this instance, but can you
06:22
talk about you as the actor and the thought process as far as your approach, because she's
06:29
a musician, you're a musician, you know, she's in New York, you're in New York, obviously
06:33
lots of parallels, but you have to make it your own.
06:35
Right.
06:36
Right.
06:37
Well, there is a funny experience when you're an actor and director in the same film.
06:42
You know, there's even more observation going on because I'm one trying to do my best, but
06:50
also while people are performing, I'm also thinking, OK, what are the notes I would give
06:54
them next time?
06:56
Next time, you know, it's you have to really stay truly present.
07:00
But I but I kind of took on an extra role of the observer again, which is what I do as
07:06
a musician in the gigs and in real life.
07:09
So, yeah, it was this combination of being sometimes an observer and sometimes the subject
07:16
and then sometimes both at the same time.
07:19
And it's a fun and interesting experience for sure.
07:23
I did want to add a follow up just because you were talking about notes, of course, notes
07:27
makes me think musicality, but it brought to mind a different word pitch, you know, because
07:34
pitch is, you know, even when you're talking about the metric, but the pitch is what makes
07:39
it pitch can be sort of, I think, equalized with tone in many ways.
07:44
But can you talk about what for you in this reflects the right pitch?
07:49
What is the pitch of this film?
07:51
Not the pitch, the logline, but the pitch.
07:53
Right.
07:55
I don't know if I could verbalize like a pitch, but yeah, exactly.
07:59
But I, you know, what's the feeling?
08:01
What's the feeling that you get from the film?
08:03
I want the film to feel like a song, you know, I want it to sing.
08:08
And even though it's it's really uncomfortable and painful at certain times, hopefully at the
08:15
end, you feel like you've just sung a song or you're witnessing someone just sing.
08:23
And you, you know, what's the feeling?
08:24
I don't know.
08:26
I don't know.
08:30
I don't know.
08:31
I don't know.
08:32
I don't know.
08:34
We'll see you next time.
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