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  • 6/16/2025
During a House Armed Services Committee hearing on Thursday, Rep. Jill Tokuda (D-HI) asked Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth about Elon Musk being invited to the Pentagon.
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00:00You're not recognized as a gentlelady from Hawaii, Mr. Kuda.
00:03Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I agree we've had many performances today, but what we'd like is some answers.
00:08Mr. Secretary, did you invite Elon Musk for a briefing on war plans with China to the Pentagon?
00:15Yes or no is simple.
00:17There's been a lot of hyperbole and incorrect reporting around that situation,
00:23but we did invite Elon over to come talk to us generally, but there was no war plans being discussed.
00:30Okay, so whose idea was it to invite him to the Pentagon for a briefing?
00:35You mentioned you served at the pleasure of the President.
00:37Was it the President's will to have him come and be briefed?
00:41As you know, at that time, Elon Musk was leading up Doge efforts,
00:45and we've taken a great investment in Doge at DOD,
00:49and so getting his input on how we make DOD more efficient.
00:52makes a great deal of sense.
00:54Okay, but don't you think it's a conflict of interest for the world's richest man?
00:59Many of the contracts that the DOD is engaged in,
01:02billions of dollars of contracts going to his company,
01:06and he is, as to your point, was leading Doge,
01:09which was involved in cutting hundreds of contracts,
01:12but also becoming intimately aware of the platforms and the requirements
01:15that would be given out for new contracts.
01:17Did you not think it was a conflict of interest to invite someone with financial interest?
01:22And to the Pentagon to have first-hand knowledge of what they could then bid on
01:26for their own, you know, enrichment.
01:29Ma'am, it was just an informal discussion,
01:31but I'll tell you, anyone that knows our Defense Department knows,
01:34we show no preference to any company other than what your capabilities are,
01:37and we're grateful for the places where his companies benefit our national defense.
01:42So for a $280 million donation,
01:46the world's richest man with companies intimately linked and involved in billion-dollar contracts
01:50with the Department of Defense gain access into the Pentagon.
01:55So would you say that any company right now that has multi-billion-dollar contracts
02:01to the Department of Defense has access to the Pentagon right now?
02:04One-hour briefings with you, personally.
02:06On the regular basis, I meet with many people and many different companies
02:11and many different aspects of our defense industrial base
02:14to ensure we have the best possible capabilities.
02:17It would be imprudent to do that.
02:18Well, I'm sure for an investment of $280 million,
02:21Elon's investors are quite happy that it's come out into the billions.
02:24I want to jump in.
02:25I want to jump in.

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