Mama June: From Not to Hot Season 7 Episode 3
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00:00Out of the family, that's it.
00:01Right.
00:01Mama's gonna step in, and she's gonna make sure that it.
00:05Anna passed before she could write down her wishes.
00:08And her ex, Michael, sued Mama for custody of Caitlyn.
00:11And everyone's nervous we could lose her.
00:14Now we are a month away from going to court,
00:17and that is stressful.
00:19We were all excited Alana was back in town from college.
00:23Hey!
00:25Morning!
00:26I'm getting it!
00:28Unfortunately, it was for Draylyn's court case,
00:30and the news they received may cost them their relationship.
00:34The judge really could sentence you to 10 years in prison.
00:38If they give you 10 years, I'm gonna have to tell them
00:39that I'm gonna have to serve with you.
00:41But at least Mama finally gave Alana back
00:43the money she stole.
00:45It was nice that you finally come to your senses
00:47and pay me my money back.
00:48I've got the check.
00:50It's a cashier's check.
00:52Oh, wow.
00:53Meanwhile, I had to make the hardest decision of my life.
00:57Like, I think I'm at the point of, like, getting a divorce.
01:00Do you want to share with him in a session?
01:02That would be probably better.
01:05I love pumping the rest of my life, but I won't ever let that go.
01:09I did plan on keeping my marriage issues from my family.
01:12You and Jeff have been, like, a little distant.
01:16But they kept on prying.
01:18What the hell was y'all saying?
01:19Mama, I really don't know.
01:20I'm sick of him.
01:22Girlie Bob.
01:24We're getting a divorce.
01:26What?
01:26I don't love him enough to be with him.
01:28Why would you just say it like that?
01:43So y'all stop just asking me, like, why is it?
01:48What are you doing?
01:49What's going on?
01:50Like, that way you just know how.
01:53So the whole sperm thing is a no now, I'm guessing.
01:56A hundred percent.
01:57OK.
01:58Well.
01:58Maybe you should just look Alex way, you know?
02:00That might be a little weird.
02:02Well, I mean, I've been feeling the vibe off for a while, though.
02:04Oh, have you?
02:06Maybe y'all just got married too young.
02:08I love your relationship advice,
02:10because you've had such good past relationships.
02:13Oh, stupid.
02:14If you keep following me, I'm leaving.
02:16Bye.
02:16He obviously doesn't give a .
02:18What do you know about marriage?
02:19This is the first time you've ever been married.
02:20That's right, this is your first marriage too.
02:23I mean, you know, a lot of your stuff
02:25could have taken a toll on us too.
02:27Don't blame me for your problems,
02:29because I'm not blaming you for my problems.
02:31But you know Joshy Poo's going to say it is.
02:34Well, it was your mama.
02:35It was your piece of mama.
02:37She wouldn't have done that.
02:37Oh my god, Jean.
02:39So who's getting the house?
02:41Mama.
02:42Whoa.
02:42I haven't even told him.
02:45Mama's never kind of the nurturing type.
02:48I mean, the least she could do is be like,
02:49I'm sorry for what you're going through.
02:51Everything's going to be OK, Pumpkin.
02:53But no, she can't do that.
02:55I'm going to go and talk to the therapist tomorrow with Josh
02:58and make sure that we do this the civil way.
03:01You don't think y'all can talk it over?
03:03No.
03:06Well, why don't you look at the time?
03:08I best get gone.
03:10Why aren't you glad you don't live here no more?
03:12Right?
03:13Why do you always come and leave so fast?
03:15I mean, you just come and go.
03:16Like, I love coming and going back to people.
03:20Must be nice.
03:21It comes as a shock to me that Pumpkin
03:24is really going to get a divorce.
03:26Like, what's going to happen?
03:28Like, this is going to be crazy.
03:32Josh is almost like a father figure to me.
03:35All boys are covered in cooties,
03:37kind of like chicken pox.
03:39Cooties?
03:39What do you think I am five?
03:41No, stay away from the cooties.
03:45You're going to get in your car, get your and leave.
03:48And if I could buy you a plane ticket
03:50to go out there tomorrow, I would.
03:52Yep.
03:54Be very, very, very smart the whole time.
04:01Now it's like, we're getting a divorce.
04:04What's going to happen with the kids?
04:05Like, I feel like the whole family's
04:07just going to be ripped apart.
04:08We're going back to Colorado drama free, OK?
04:12So when are we going to be back,
04:13we're going to show this new court date.
04:15Why don't you be a Debbie Downer?
04:17I mean, I hope y'all is because, hey,
04:19we don't see you, but every so often.
04:25I told you that that was going to happen.
04:26I told you something was wrong.
04:29I guess you were right.
04:30I was right.
04:39This is, like, insane.
04:41For sure.
04:43I actually just said it like it was nothing.
04:45Like, it was just, wow, we're getting a divorce, you know?
04:50Bye, Lana.
04:51Bye, Mama.
04:52I'll be safe.
04:53Y'all be safe.
04:56Don't leave without me.
04:58Bye.
04:59Well, you were upstairs, piggy butt,
05:01and it's like, so much is going on.
05:03Am I getting a huggy?
05:04I love you.
05:06I'll see you later, OK?
05:07I'll face something when I get home, OK, Mama?
05:09This is going to suck for Ellie because it's like,
05:12Ella's at the age now where, like, she's very smart.
05:16And she's somebody that, like, you can't really lie to.
05:19And she'll definitely be like, no, Mama, you're lying.
05:22So this is like, I don't know how Pumpkin's
05:25going to even tell her that, like,
05:28Pumpkin and Dada are getting a divorce.
05:29Like, what?
05:32Like, this has come to a shocker to me.
05:34So I just can't even imagine how Ella would take it.
05:37I, this is going to be crazy.
05:43So you sure you're good and this is what you want to do?
05:45Yeah.
05:46OK.
05:48I knew something was up.
05:49You just didn't tell me.
05:51I didn't tell anybody except for Lonnie.
05:54Don't you got to be getting Harper or something?
05:55They're all bothering me still.
05:57I was making sure if you needed somebody to talk to, I was here.
05:59I'm fine, Jessie.
06:01All righty.
06:02I have a therapist.
06:03All righty.
06:05I guess I'll just let you have some quiet time.
06:07That would be great.
06:09All righty.
06:10Don't forget all the plates.
06:11I won't.
06:12OK.
06:13Pick up after kids, have to still pick up after y'all.
06:15Y'all don't even live here.
06:17Well, let me know if you need me.
06:19I need you at work tomorrow.
06:21Well, all righty.
06:22And don't be running your mouth about this stuff, OK?
06:25Okey-doke, okey-doke.
06:28It's child safety, not Jessie's safety.
06:33Jessica, grab the doorknob and the inside.
06:39This is why you can't be my real employee right here.
06:41Prime example.
06:43All righty.
06:45Got it.
06:46All right, Jessie.
06:54That was kind of like an interesting breakfast.
06:56But I mean, if I have to say so, I'm going to pat myself
06:59on the back on this one.
07:01I told Pumpkin before she even married Josh she was too young.
07:05I hope you realize this is a lot of responsibility
07:07and that it's hard, like, being able to juggle life, job,
07:12kids.
07:14You're going to have to grow up.
07:16Yeah, but, like, this isn't really the right time
07:19to be like, I told you so.
07:22And we have a lot of stuff going on in our own life.
07:25I know what I mean.
07:26We've got a court case with Caitlyn coming up.
07:28It's, like, stressing everybody out.
07:30Yeah.
07:31Living in the public eye sometimes is not fun,
07:35especially when it comes to, like, this court case
07:38coming up with Caitlyn.
07:39So it's probably going to be blasted all over social media,
07:41all over the media period.
07:44And the same thing with, like, Pumpkin and Josh.
07:46Like, Josh is going to have his truths.
07:48Pumpkin's going to have her truths.
07:50There's going to be people inserting theirself
07:51thinking they know the truth but don't really
07:53know a damn thing.
07:54But that's just the way it is being in the public eye.
07:58I mean, this is, like, wild as , you know?
08:00Like, it's definitely crazy.
08:02It's definitely wild, you know?
08:04But that just goes to show you that, like, nobody's perfect.
08:07And everybody, no matter how they're made out to be,
08:10have issues.
08:11So, I mean, I guess, you know, she doesn't have
08:13the perfect marriage.
08:14So I guess now we have, like, what everybody would say
08:17would be the, um, picturesque marriage now.
08:23Well, Junebug, I mean, we have our issues
08:26that we have to work on every day, too.
08:28We ain't perfect.
08:30Our life isn't picture skew.
08:34Oh, shit.
08:53Good.
08:53Good.
08:54Come on in.
08:59Hi.
08:59Hey, how you doing?
09:00How are you?
09:00I'm doing good.
09:01Good.
09:01Good.
09:02Come on in.
09:04Where's Josh?
09:05Um, I think he's a little bit behind me.
09:08OK.
09:09I think.
09:10Cool.
09:10Come on in.
09:12Knowing today that I have to tell Josh that I do want
09:15a divorce, I am nervous.
09:17I'm scared to see, like, how he's going to react.
09:20Because, like, I don't want to upset him,
09:22and I don't want to hurt him.
09:23But I do know that we're on two very different levels
09:26of what we want out of this relationship.
09:28And I'm at the point where I am done, and he is not.
09:32So, Ms. Pumpkin, what have you heard from Josh?
09:36Is, like, any conversation with him?
09:39Like, does he even know when he comes in here
09:41what we're going to be talking about?
09:43Like, I know that Josh does want to fix things.
09:47And wanting to see if, like, again, we can work it out.
09:50But, like, we've tried to work it out a multitude of times,
09:53and it's just, like, it's not working for us, you know?
09:56Oh, I am a little nervous.
09:59I feel you.
10:01Whew.
10:02Okay, well, I think that's him.
10:06Hey, Josh.
10:07Hey, how are you?
10:07All right.
10:08Nice to see you again.
10:09Yeah, come on in.
10:10It's good to see you again.
10:17So, how are you doing today?
10:20Been all right.
10:21Yeah?
10:22Okay.
10:23Best I can be.
10:24I get that.
10:25I get that.
10:26So, Pumpkin, you want to share anything?
10:32Um...
10:33I was, like, talking to her, you know?
10:40Mm-hmm.
10:40Like, last session, you didn't come,
10:42and we haven't been able to, like, really, like, communicate.
10:47We've only been, like, passing each other at the house
10:51or, you know, making dinner
10:54and doing what we need to do for the kids,
10:56but it hasn't...
10:58Like, we're still not communicating.
10:59We're still not...
11:00Like, I don't want to continue doing this
11:04if that's, like, the point that we're at now.
11:09Like, I think it would just be better
11:12if maybe, like, we just both, like, put our,
11:17you know, like, put our big girl panties on
11:19and we just, like, filed for a divorce.
11:22Coming up on Mama June Family Crisis...
11:34Well, y'all just missed a phone call.
11:35A phone call.
11:36Ready to go to court tomorrow?
11:37Talking to the judge?
11:38Yeah.
11:40How did everything go back home?
11:42Pumpkin tells me that they're getting a divorce.
11:44I haven't even really told you, like, the worst part.
11:47We all know that Mama talks too much.
11:49I can't believe this.
11:51So, of course, Mama wants to get up there on the stand
11:53and say stuff she has no business saying.
11:56Like, I think it would just be
12:06better if we just, like, filed for a divorce.
12:11It's like I don't want to get to a point in a year from now
12:20where, like, I can't stand you, we can't agree with the kids,
12:24we can't sit in the same room,
12:26we can't enjoy the holidays together.
12:30When Pumpkin asked for a divorce,
12:32it was kind of like a stab in the throat,
12:36almost speechless in a sense.
12:38I just never thought we'd be at this point in our lives.
12:45To me, it's just, like,
12:46throwing 10 years out of the window, really, in all honesty.
12:49It is my privilege to pronounce you finally,
12:52husband and wife.
12:52You may kiss your beautiful bride, Josh.
12:55Everybody, come on.
12:56We're married, y'all.
12:59I love you.
13:00Everyone meet Ella Grace.
13:06She's perfect.
13:08Look what we did.
13:10You did good, sugar.
13:12That's a buzz off.
13:13That's a buzz off.
13:14That is the best.
13:17Mommy.
13:18I love you.
13:20I love you.
13:22Josh, how are you feeling right now?
13:24It's hard to say.
13:33Yeah.
13:35What's coming up for you?
13:44I don't have a time machine,
13:46so I can't go back, you know?
13:48But I wish I could.
13:49Yeah, I feel you.
13:50And do what?
13:51Change for the betterment of my marriage
13:56instead of being so angry.
13:59I hear you.
14:05You know, I do hate to see Josh cry,
14:07and I do hate that I've broken his heart
14:09and I've hurt him.
14:11But for so long, like, I've begged for communication.
14:14I've begged to go on dates
14:15and all the things that normal people do
14:18in a marriage that we haven't been doing for years.
14:22And now I'm at my wits end with it.
14:24Like, I'm tired of begging.
14:25I'm tired of asking.
14:26So for the first time in my life,
14:28I feel like I'm making myself happy.
14:30And I just hope that Josh understands that.
14:34What would you say you've learned?
14:35I would say that, like, I've learned
14:40that it's OK to put yourself first.
14:42I think that's my biggest thing.
14:44We've put everybody ahead of ourselves.
14:47Yeah.
14:47Every time.
14:49I guess it's another problem I need to fix.
14:53Alana's already pissed off at me
14:55because Jessica questioned her
14:56about the whole Colorado thing,
14:57which obviously is my fault.
14:59Then you turn around,
15:00and Jalen's just not doing
15:02I'm so sick and tired of hearing about
15:04Jean this, Jean that, Jean up here.
15:07It would not bother me one bit
15:09if I never ever seen Jean again.
15:12I can't really do that.
15:13I commend you for being, you know,
15:18communicable right now.
15:19Like, you're amicable in this space.
15:22And so with that being the case,
15:24where do we go from here, right?
15:26Like, what are their next steps?
15:28Or is there a next step for you now?
15:32I think probably, like, our next step
15:33is just, like, trying to figure out,
15:35like, come to an agreement,
15:36like, the things that we do have,
15:40like, the kids, the, you know, the house.
15:43Like, we do have things together.
15:45Mm-hmm.
15:46But, like, I think we figure those things out,
15:49and then we, like, file.
15:52Mm-hmm.
15:53Okay.
15:54Where are you with that, Josh?
15:55How are you?
15:56I want to be on the same page.
15:58Okay.
15:59You know, me and Pumpkin said
16:00we would never do this to the kids,
16:02the whole broken home thing,
16:04and I think that's what really hits home.
16:08I went through a divorce as a child also,
16:11and watching the bickering and the arguing,
16:14it sucked.
16:15I mean, I don't want my kids to go through it,
16:18but at this particular point,
16:19we have no choice.
16:19So what I can do is to be more cordial
16:24than my parents were at times,
16:27make sure that everybody knows
16:28that I'm always here, no matter what.
16:31And just to be completely honest,
16:33the whole time.
16:35At this point,
16:36my children's mental health
16:38means more to me than anything.
16:39Yeah, I commend you for that.
16:42So how do you talk to your children,
16:46and is this what you're going to say?
16:48Like, are you going to let them know?
16:50I think we're probably just, like,
16:52the only one that I feel like
16:53can really, like, comprehend right now...
16:55Is Ella.
16:55Is Ella.
16:56Okay.
16:57So I do think, like,
16:58us sitting down and talking to her
17:00and just, like, letting her know,
17:01like, things are going to be different,
17:03but, like, the love that both of me
17:06and your daddy have,
17:06that isn't changing.
17:08Right.
17:08Right.
17:09Like, telling her, like,
17:10regardless, even though we're splitting up,
17:11it doesn't mean that
17:12I stop loving you any less
17:14or your daddy stops loving you any less.
17:16Like, we're still going to be there
17:17to take care of you.
17:18We're still going to be there to,
17:20you know, school events
17:21or sporting events
17:22or whatever the case may be.
17:24Like, none of that changes.
17:26It's just the way that we live
17:29is going to change, you know.
17:31Children not only see what you do,
17:33they feel what you do.
17:35Right.
17:36And so I think it will be
17:38very beneficial to the children
17:40how you show up.
17:42Right.
17:43Let me give you a few minutes
17:44to just chat a little bit.
17:50You know, I do thank you
17:52for, like, actually, like,
17:54communicating with me
17:55and, like, like, wanting really
17:57to do what's best for the kids.
18:00You're welcome.
18:02You know, I do still love you
18:04and I'll always love you.
18:05I love you.
18:09And if you want to,
18:11you can go home with the kids
18:13and then I'll just
18:14figure out somewhere to go,
18:16you know?
18:17I love you.
18:22Here.
18:36Put on the paper, boo.
18:40I love you, Daddy.
18:41I'm going to make you a picture.
18:43Thank you, boo.
18:47Hello.
18:47I don't think painting
18:50is going to help
18:51your stress.
18:53Stress?
18:54Do I look stressed to you?
18:58What does stress look like?
19:00It's when your face
19:01crinkles up like that.
19:05Am I okay?
19:08Definitely not.
19:10I mean, I never thought
19:11that it would end this way.
19:14Like, I want the things
19:16to be different.
19:18We fought to work it out,
19:20but sometimes things
19:24don't work out.
19:26Go get her.
19:26Come upstairs.
19:28Come on, Renee.
19:29Come on.
19:30It's okay.
19:31See you, baby.
19:32Come on.
19:32Coming up on
19:46Mama June
19:46Family Crisis.
19:48What you going to do now?
19:49Probably why I'm going to stay here,
19:50you know,
19:50think it over.
19:51Well, see, look at you.
19:52Always come back home to Mama.
19:54Feels like there's no light
19:56at the end of the tunnel.
19:56We could walk out
20:00of this courtroom today
20:01and never see Caitlin again.
20:02Are you ready for this, Caitlin?
20:04I've got out what
20:05I felt the court needed to hear.
20:07What happened?
20:08With this whole divorce thing,
20:22like, as much as I didn't
20:23really want to do it,
20:25I know that it had to be done,
20:26and I know that it hurts
20:28both of us in the long run,
20:29but I do care a lot about Josh,
20:31and I care about his mental state,
20:33and that's where Justin comes in.
20:34Who was knocking?
20:39I don't know.
20:42It's the police, bro.
20:44Bitch, why are you knocking?
20:46Because?
20:49What are you doing?
20:50Vibrating, working out.
20:52I'm just trying to figure out,
20:52like, how this is working out.
20:54Because when I started this
20:55five weeks ago,
20:56I weighed 255.
20:57This morning when I woke up,
20:59I weighed 232.
21:00So in five weeks,
21:01I have lost 23 pounds.
21:05I don't even go to the gym.
21:06This is my gym.
21:07I mean, you gotta wait a minute.
21:08I'll be done working out,
21:09and I didn't come to talk to you.
21:11I come to talk to Justin.
21:12So what are you over here for?
21:13Well, Josh was going back
21:14to the house,
21:15because we, like,
21:16today went to the therapy staff.
21:19How'd that go?
21:20Today was really, like,
21:22us sitting down with a therapist
21:23and, like, me asking him
21:24for a divorce.
21:26What?
21:26You thought he got through with it?
21:28Yeah.
21:29How did he take it today?
21:30I mean, of course,
21:32he's, like, sad and stuff.
21:33Like, I don't think
21:34that he's, like, shot.
21:35Like, I think he knew
21:36that was coming.
21:37Like, I think he knew
21:38that, like, we haven't
21:39been doing good.
21:40I'm not gonna wait around
21:40forever for us to be able
21:42to communicate with each other
21:43and put our kids through that.
21:44I'm not...
21:45Yeah, don't stay...
21:45I don't want to do that.
21:46Like, I told him
21:47at the end of the conversation
21:48today, he was like,
21:49I still want to be best friends
21:49with you.
21:50I still want to be cordial
21:51for the kids.
21:51I still want us to be able
21:52to do things
21:52with the kids together.
21:54Which is hard.
21:55Right.
21:55Because it is hard
21:56when people are together
21:57for a long period of time
21:58and then break up.
21:58Yeah.
21:59Sometimes you can be friends,
22:00sometimes you can't.
22:01Right.
22:02I mean, so, you know,
22:03I was kind of, like,
22:04thinking, you know,
22:06like, maybe you could,
22:08you know, like, talk to him.
22:09Like, man to man.
22:11I just know that, like,
22:12he does respect you a lot.
22:13Maybe he'll talk to you.
22:15Counselor Justin.
22:17I can go talk to him.
22:18Stop by and check on him,
22:19see what he's up to.
22:20I mean, this would be
22:21a good time for you
22:22to bond with your mama, though.
22:23You can get her
22:24on the squatter machine.
22:25Yeah, look.
22:26You can go in there
22:26and sit on the squatter
22:27and she can be on the plate
22:28and y'all can work out together.
22:30Do y'all do that?
22:31No.
22:31All right, well,
22:32I'm going to go check
22:33on Joshy's boot.
22:34I'll let you know how it goes.
22:38What you doing?
22:39I'm not going to have
22:40a conversation with you
22:41to get off
22:41that ridiculous-ass thing.
22:45Well, I mean,
22:45you need to go work
22:46on that thing.
22:47You know, you're at 206,
22:48that squatter machine
22:50will take your name.
22:53So what you going to do now?
22:54What do you mean
22:55what am I going to do?
22:56I mean, you're getting
22:57a divorce.
22:57Like, what are you going to do?
22:58Like...
23:00Mama, I don't know.
23:01There's a lot of things
23:02that I have to figure out.
23:03I mean, that's probably
23:04why I'm going to stay here,
23:04you know, think it over.
23:05You stay here.
23:07Well, see, look at you.
23:08Always come back home to mama.
23:10I just want to really
23:11try to figure my stuff out.
23:13Like...
23:13You just need to work
23:14on yourself
23:14and do pumpkin.
23:16Like...
23:17This bitch.
23:18Knock, knock.
23:39Come on in.
23:41Yeah.
23:41What are you doing?
23:43Put it on the paper.
23:44Sister Guff,
23:45you painting over there?
23:47Where's everybody at?
23:48They followed Ella upstairs.
23:50You know, pumpkin stopped
23:51by the house,
23:52so I wanted to come by
23:53and check on you.
23:54She said y'all went to therapy.
23:56See how he was holding up.
23:58Something I didn't want
23:59to go through
24:00in life at all.
24:01And, you know,
24:02divorce is hard.
24:03You know,
24:03I've been through it.
24:06It sucks, bro.
24:07You know,
24:08there's some kind
24:08of love there.
24:09Like, you know,
24:10that was one of the things
24:11she stopped by for
24:12because she said
24:13she was worried about you,
24:14wanted somebody
24:14to come check on you,
24:15so...
24:18I know it's rough, too.
24:20I know it feels like
24:20there's no light
24:21at the end of the tunnel.
24:24That's probably
24:25the hardest part.
24:26You just feel stuck.
24:28Stuck.
24:29You know,
24:30it really sucks
24:30seeing Josh this tore up.
24:32I mean,
24:33I understand
24:33what he's going through.
24:35You know,
24:35I've been through divorce
24:36and there's no easy way
24:37to say it
24:38or to sugarcoat it.
24:39It's rough
24:40and it's going to be
24:40hard for a while.
24:41You know,
24:42he's going to have moments
24:43where he feels down and out
24:45and the best thing
24:45I can do for him
24:46is just be there
24:47and support him.
24:51She's such a daddy's girl.
24:55Thank God for the kids
24:56because there's the only thing
24:57keeping me wholesome.
24:59Yeah,
25:00how could they not?
25:02Kids is what hurt the most
25:04because they don't deserve this.
25:05But as long as
25:06y'all put the kids first,
25:08you know,
25:08and understand
25:09that that's what's important.
25:11That's what's most important
25:13to me at this moment.
25:15I love being around him.
25:16Anytime you need a babysitter,
25:17just call.
25:18I appreciate it.
25:20I mean,
25:20within a divorce,
25:22you kind of divorce the family.
25:26I'm super glad Justin
25:28gives enough
25:30to come and check on me.
25:31Divorce in June
25:35won't be so bad.
25:36Could care less,
25:38but Justin,
25:40on the other hand,
25:40has been a decent dude to me,
25:43so at least I've got
25:45him on my side
25:47in some of this.
25:49I mean,
25:49there's always been bumps
25:50along the way.
25:52Figure those out.
25:53I guess just this time
25:58I couldn't figure this bump out.
26:19I'm excited to be back in Colorado.
26:21Me too.
26:22I'm glad I missed you.
26:23It's been a long time
26:24since we really hung out like this.
26:26I know,
26:27and I'm excited.
26:28Oh.
26:32So cute.
26:33Hi, guys.
26:34Hi.
26:34How are you?
26:35We're doing good.
26:36Do you have a reservation?
26:37We do.
26:38Awesome.
26:38What's the first name?
26:39Alana.
26:40Perfect.
26:41I am grateful
26:42to be back in Colorado
26:43and away from everybody right now
26:45is an understatement,
26:46but I'm glad that
26:47Makayla come in.
26:49We're having like
26:50a little girls day
26:50because it's like
26:51I need somebody
26:52to just word vomit to you.
26:55How did everything go back home?
26:58It was,
26:58it was just a lot.
27:01Why?
27:01What do you mean?
27:02Well,
27:03Jalen's lawyer,
27:04Sarah,
27:04needed to emergency
27:06meet with Jalen.
27:08Oh.
27:08So she was saying
27:09that like Jalen
27:10will be looking at
27:1010 years
27:11of jail time.
27:12Oh my God.
27:13Where does that leave you
27:14in all of this?
27:15I do feel like
27:17we will figure it out,
27:18but it is like,
27:19it's scary.
27:20Like Jalen's scared.
27:21Yeah.
27:23And I don't know,
27:24like,
27:25I just hope
27:26that it doesn't get
27:26to that point.
27:27Well,
27:28it sounds like you had
27:29a rough and eventful
27:30weekend.
27:31Oh,
27:32you thought that was
27:32rough and eventful.
27:33I haven't even really told you
27:34like the worst part.
27:36So,
27:37I come home
27:38and like,
27:38I felt like Pumpkin
27:39and Josh
27:39were just being off.
27:41Like,
27:42it just wasn't them,
27:42their normal self.
27:43So,
27:44I sat down
27:45and had a conversation
27:45with Pumpkin
27:46and she tells me
27:48that they're getting
27:48a divorce.
27:51Yeah.
27:51Oh my God.
27:53A divorce.
27:54I'm sorry to hear
27:55about that.
27:56Yeah.
27:57I mean,
27:58Josh,
27:59it's like your dad.
28:00Literally.
28:01So,
28:01like,
28:01I don't even know.
28:02How do you feel
28:03about it all?
28:04I was a little upset,
28:05but like,
28:06honestly,
28:06at the end of the day,
28:07there's like nothing
28:07that I can do
28:08to stop the divorce.
28:09She knows.
28:10Yeah.
28:11I'm 100%
28:12not choosing sides,
28:14but at the end of the day,
28:15Pumpkin's my sister,
28:16so.
28:17I get it.
28:18But I still love Dada
28:19and I like,
28:20loved everything
28:21he did for me
28:22and I appreciate
28:22everything he's done
28:23for me.
28:23You don't want to get
28:24like too involved
28:25in everything,
28:26you know?
28:26Yeah.
28:26You don't want
28:27to be in the middle.
28:28I definitely don't want
28:29to be in the middle of it,
28:30so.
28:30I'll stay here
28:31in Colorado
28:32and we'll paint pottery
28:34all the time.
28:35Yes.
28:35I love that.
28:37Coming up on
28:38Mama June
28:38family crisis.
28:40Where have you been?
28:41At Gigi's.
28:42Why?
28:45Unfortunately,
28:45we have to be
28:46left up to the judge.
28:47What are you doing?
28:48I mean,
28:49I wouldn't laugh,
28:49I wasn't nervous.
28:50The tension is real.
29:08Bubbies.
29:15What?
29:16What?
29:17What?
29:17Bubbies?
29:17What?
29:18Bubbies?
29:21Yoo-hoo in y'all's.
29:23The milk like crap.
29:24The milk like crap.
29:26You know,
29:26it's only been a day
29:27since Pumpkin asked
29:28for the divorce
29:29and
29:30it's just weird.
29:34It's like,
29:34it's unknown territory
29:35in a sense
29:36because it's just like,
29:37I'm here with the kids
29:37and everybody's asking
29:39where Mom is
29:40and it's just like,
29:42I don't know.
29:44Kids have no clue
29:45what's going on.
29:46They don't even know
29:46what color the sky is.
29:47So it's just like,
29:48what do you tell
29:49four kids?
29:51I miss you, Bubby.
29:54Mommy, I can't eat this.
29:55It's not good.
29:56I'm sorry.
29:57I'm sorry, Pete.
29:59Where are the babies?
30:00Everybody's still asleep.
30:03Give me a kiss.
30:06I love you.
30:07Come here, Bubby, man.
30:09Bubby, man, give me a kiss.
30:10Hey, give me a kiss.
30:13I'll be back, okay?
30:14Okay.
30:21I just keep telling myself
30:23it's going to get better.
30:24It's a process.
30:25Like, now he has to go
30:26through the grieving and stuff.
30:28And really, I just hope
30:29that we can keep it cordial
30:30for our kids' sake
30:31because it's going to be
30:32sooner than later
30:34that we have to tell Ella.
30:35Ella is very smart
30:37for her age.
30:38So what y'all been doing?
30:39Nothing.
30:41Where you been?
30:42At Gigi's.
30:43Why?
30:45Um, because I just went
30:47and spent the night over there.
30:48You went to spend the night
30:50and I did, did, did, did,
30:51didn't even find me.
30:52Like, what?
30:53Because I just needed
30:53to have some adult time,
30:55you know?
30:56Let's look at this.
30:56Okay, Bubba, let's hold on.
30:58Let's see if we have
30:58any popsicles.
31:03Ella Grace,
31:04I'm giving your brother
31:05this popsicle.
31:05I need you to keep an eye
31:06on him for, like, five minutes
31:07because I need a shower.
31:08I'm taking a shower.
31:09You hear what I'm telling you?
31:11Yeah.
31:11Because you're being silly
31:12and goofy and stuff.
31:15You need to get
31:16in the shower, stinky.
31:18That was good to me.
31:20It better be funny.
31:23No, no, no, no, funny.
31:25Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
31:43Hello?
31:44Um, yes.
31:49Tomorrow.
31:50I mean, for real?
31:52Like, they can do that?
31:54So my lawyer just called
31:56and they said that my court date
31:57got moved up from a month
31:58from now to tomorrow
32:00when it comes to Caitlin.
32:02Like, that ain't how
32:03it's supposed to work.
32:06Okay, well, just tell Johnny
32:07to, like, text me the time
32:09and, like, where to be at
32:10and stuff.
32:11All right.
32:11All right.
32:11Talk to you later.
32:12All right, fine.
32:14Ugh.
32:15Let me explain the court case
32:16to y'all.
32:17It is Michael, Anna's ex,
32:19versus myself,
32:21for custody of Caitlin.
32:23Even though Anna told all of us
32:26that she wanted Caitlin
32:27to stay with us,
32:28she never put it in writing
32:30or anything else.
32:32Michael is not Caitlin's
32:33biological father,
32:35and we don't know
32:36who honestly is.
32:37The only reason Michael's
32:39able to go after me
32:40is because he paid
32:41for some of Caitlin's school.
32:42So under this new Georgia law,
32:44if you pay for a child,
32:47you can go for equity
32:48of care for that child
32:49and custody.
32:54Well, it took y'all long enough.
32:55Well, I had to go get your food.
32:57I mean...
32:57Well, y'all just missed
32:58a phone call.
32:59A phone call.
33:00Well, I mean,
33:01are you ready to go to court tomorrow
33:02and talk to the judge?
33:03Tomorrow.
33:03Yeah, tomorrow morning.
33:05What is...
33:05That's a short notice.
33:06Yeah, hunts, hunts.
33:07Yeah, they can do that.
33:09Did you want to...
33:11Yeah.
33:11I figured it had been
33:12a little bit...
33:12I thought you had 30 days,
33:14but no.
33:17Well, this sucks.
33:18Like, I mean,
33:19I'm just not getting comfortable
33:20into, like, this whole,
33:22like, house thingy.
33:23And, like, now it's court popped up
33:25and, like, it's tomorrow.
33:26So, like, I'm kind of nervous
33:28because, like,
33:28you don't know
33:28what's going to happen next.
33:30But, like,
33:30we knew this was coming,
33:31so, like,
33:31going into panic mode
33:33who doesn't fix anything.
33:34Honestly,
33:35I really ain't ready
33:36to, like,
33:36deal with Michael's dumb ass
33:37but I know he's going to bring up
33:39my freaking past.
33:41He's going to bring up
33:41your past.
33:42Who doesn't have a past?
33:45I mean,
33:46at the end of the day,
33:46I'm her biological grandparent,
33:48and I'm not going to lose Caitlin
33:49because Michael ain't getting it.
33:51I'm sorry.
33:53Where are you going?
33:55To have a moment.
33:56A moment?
33:57You were having a moment
33:58right here.
33:59We were having a conversation.
34:01Well, you ain't listening.
34:03I ain't listening.
34:03I am listening.
34:05I just,
34:06you only want to hear
34:07what June wants to hear.
34:09Golly.
34:10Oh.
34:11Nobody understands.
34:13Anna.
34:14Oh.
34:15Anna, you are heavy as bitch.
34:18Anyway,
34:18we made a promise to you,
34:20and, like,
34:20I'm trying to keep it,
34:21but, like,
34:22keeping it together
34:23has not been an easy feat
34:25because, like,
34:26this has just literally consumed
34:28our whole entire life
34:29for the last seven months.
34:32So, bitch,
34:33I'm mad at you every day
34:35because you're not here
34:36for Caitlin and Kylie
34:37because we would not be
34:37going through this bitch,
34:39but I need you to
34:40damn channel yourself
34:42through me,
34:43speak what you need
34:43to speak on the stand,
34:45we say what we need to say,
34:47and get the hell off the stand.
34:49That's all I need you to do.
34:50Coming up on
34:56Mama June Family Crisis.
34:58They are going to cook Mama, too.
34:59Yeah, they are.
34:59I mean, Mama's going to
35:00deal with that .
35:01We just got word
35:02that the judge
35:02wants to talk to Caitlin
35:03and get her side.
35:05I just want you to tell
35:06what you know.
35:08All right, guys, let's go.
35:09Let's go, Caitlin.
35:20It's time to go to court.
35:21Let's go.
35:22I'm ready.
35:23Come on.
35:24You're going to wear
35:25a T-shirt to court?
35:26No, I'm waiting on my shirt
35:27to send us drawing.
35:28You should have
35:29did that last night.
35:31Oh, my God.
35:31You take your clothes
35:32so we can go.
35:33So I thought you said
35:34you was ready.
35:35Babe, come on.
35:36We had to be there
35:37at 8.30.
35:38This has consumed
35:41our lives pretty much
35:43for the last seven months
35:44because Anna's been
35:45gone seven months.
35:46Even though we know
35:47what Anna wanted
35:48at the end of the day,
35:49unfortunately,
35:50we have to be left up
35:50to the judge.
35:51And we don't know
35:52what the judge is going to do.
35:54I mean, y'all,
35:55I'm not going to lie.
35:55I mean, I'm freaking out.
35:57I am worried
35:58that I am going
35:58to lose Caitlin.
36:00Let's go.
36:08Are you ready
36:16for this, Caitlin?
36:17I don't know.
36:21I'm a pumpkin, bro.
36:22I feel kind of nervous.
36:24I have, like,
36:24my stomach starting to hurt
36:25a little bit
36:25because, like,
36:26I'm kind of nervous.
36:27I don't know
36:28what's going to happen.
36:29The tension is real.
36:31Oh, there's Eldridge.
36:34Eldridge is Anna's
36:35husband of one year,
36:36but they were together
36:37for eight years.
36:38He pretty much
36:39raised the kids
36:40since they were very little.
36:42He may be called
36:43to testify.
36:44So I do want Eldridge
36:45to go up there
36:46and tell his truth
36:47if he is called.
36:48But also,
36:49he knows what Anna wanted.
36:51Anna wanted Caitlin
36:52to stay with her
36:53biological family,
36:54and we're going to
36:55fight like hell
36:56to have that happen.
36:58Damn, look at all these
36:59do what Michael's
36:59got with him.
37:02There ain't no telling
37:03what Michael's going
37:03to pull in court.
37:05So,
37:05today is a day
37:07that we're going
37:08to come face to face,
37:09and this is going
37:10to be handled.
37:12We're going to walk
37:13in together
37:13and out together.
37:14Okay, Caitlin?
37:18Honestly,
37:18with this being
37:19the first day of court,
37:20there is a lot
37:21on the line.
37:21We could walk
37:22out of this courtroom
37:22today and never
37:24see Caitlin again,
37:25or Mama could
37:26leave with her.
37:27It could go either
37:28ways at this point.
37:29I really am scared
37:30for the outcome.
37:31It's lunchtime,
37:42y'all.
37:42And, I mean,
37:43Michael done called
37:4415 witnesses.
37:45Half of them
37:46ain't seen him
37:46since 2017.
37:48I mean,
37:49Michael was digging deep.
37:51It's 12-11.
37:51We have an hour.
37:53I'm getting
37:53something to drink.
37:53Anyway, so Michael
37:59was just up there
37:59on the stand,
38:01and she's like,
38:01you know,
38:02Pumpkin reached out
38:02and has been reaching
38:03out since January,
38:05like, since before
38:06January.
38:07To see Kylie,
38:07you keep ignoring her
38:08and you keep
38:09blowing her off.
38:10He's like, yes.
38:11He says, well,
38:13it's Caitlin's
38:14responsibility as a
38:1412-year-old kid
38:15to give June
38:16his contact information.
38:19How is it her?
38:20She's a kid.
38:21I can't remember
38:21my own number.
38:22And he literally
38:23admitted to her.
38:23that he hadn't texted
38:24her in, like,
38:25five months,
38:25but you cared.
38:27That is wild.
38:28They are gonna
38:29cook Mama, too.
38:30Yeah, they are.
38:30I mean, Mama's
38:31gonna deal with it.
38:32She's gonna have
38:32to take it
38:32to the chin.
38:34The scary part
38:35with this court stuff
38:35is, yeah,
38:36Michael's gonna get
38:37on the stand
38:37and Mama's lawyer
38:38is gonna chew him
38:39a new one,
38:40but Mama also
38:41has to get on that stand
38:42and is gonna get
38:42it 10 times harder
38:44because she was
38:45a drug addict.
38:49She was a parent.
38:51I'm scared
38:51to take her out.
38:52And all of that
38:54has been documented
38:54through national television,
38:55which, in my opinion,
38:57does scare me a little bit.
38:59Somebody's gonna leave today
39:00with their tails
39:00and come out of the leg
39:01and somebody ain't gonna be happy.
39:02I didn't even get to talk
39:18to the judge, guys.
39:19That is some bull
39:20because Michael called
39:23so many witnesses.
39:25We gotta come back tomorrow.
39:27The best part
39:28of Michael's testimony
39:29for today
39:30had to be
39:31out of the 276 pages
39:34of text messages
39:35between him and Anna
39:36that I had.
39:36It says that Caitlin
39:37doesn't wanna be over there
39:40and also Anna
39:41doesn't want Michael
39:43to have custody
39:44of Caitlin.
39:46And all this
39:46is just really
39:47nerve-wracking
39:48for all of us involved.
39:50So what time
39:50do I need to do?
39:52Maybe we got
39:52first day in the morning.
39:53Y'all ready?
40:23Come on, Caitlin.
40:27Today you will talk
40:28to the judge.
40:28Today I will talk
40:29to the courtroom.
40:31I just want you
40:31to tell what you know.
40:33At the end of the day,
40:34it's what you want.
40:35We just got word
40:35that the judge
40:36wants to talk to Caitlin
40:37and get her side
40:39in what she's feeling.
40:41I think it's a very good thing
40:42that the judge
40:43is going to speak with her.
40:45I'm just ready
40:45to get over with
40:46because this child
40:47needs to rest
40:48and my daughter
40:48needs to rest.
40:49Anna has not rested
40:50in seven months
40:52in 13 days now.
40:54Come on, Caitlin.
40:54All right, guys.
40:55Let's go.
40:56How are you doing?
40:57I mean, I wouldn't laugh.
40:58I wasn't nervous.
40:59I'd probably cry
41:00about a lot of things.
41:01It's okay to cry,
41:02but, like, remember,
41:03don't let them get you off
41:04what you're supposed
41:05to be talking about.
41:05Oh, no, I'm not.
41:06Trust me.
41:06whatever, it was a court case
41:07a hundred times.
41:24We had a system,
41:25you know,
41:26that you said,
41:27I'm not going to be able
41:28to see you,
41:28you know,
41:29do something obvious
41:30like playing with your hair.
41:32Girl,
41:32I literally don't think
41:34I could have played
41:34with my hair anymore
41:35without being like...
41:37Me and Brody
41:38had some hand signals
41:38and I started over-talking
41:40that she was going to mess
41:40with, like, her hair
41:41so I could be able to see it.
41:42And I didn't see her
41:43messing with her hair.
41:44Brody might be
41:45a little bit mad at me,
41:46but at least
41:47I got out what
41:48I felt was what
41:50the court needed to hear.