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'What Authority?': Tammy Baldwin Demands Pete Hegseth Cite Constitutional Provision To Send Troops To L.A.
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6/11/2025
At today's Senate Appropriations Committee, Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) questioned Defense Sec. Pete Hegseth.
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on a couple of lines of questioning. Just specifically, Mr. Secretary, what is the
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authority that the administration is using to deploy active duty Marines to
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California neighborhoods? What authority? Senator, the President has
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constitutional authority in order to support... Cite the provision of the
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Constitution. I'd have to pull up the specific provision, but our Office of
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General Counsel, alongside our leadership, has reviewed and ensured in the order
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that we set out, that it's completely constitutional for the
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President to use federal troops to defend federal law enforcement. Look, I'd like to
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know the specific constitutional statutory authority. The President made it
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clear that he relied on section 12406 of Title 10 with regard to the National
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Guard troops. I need to know the authority that he is relying upon in terms of
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active duty Marines being deployed to California neighborhoods. So you'll
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follow up with me? Yes, Senator, but there's plenty of precedent of active
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duty troops being used to support law enforcement. Historical precedent. I'm not
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disputing that. I am just asking you to cite the authority under which the active
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duty Marines are being deployed to California neighborhoods. It's in the order, ma'am, but
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we'll make sure we get it to you as well. Thank you. I want to dovetail on a couple of
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other comments also with regard to the lack of specific detail in the budget
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request for the Department of Defense. I take great pride in Wisconsin's
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contributions to our national defense and that includes many Wisconsinites who are
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hard at work building the Constellation class frigate. There is no mention of
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frigate procurement just like Senator Collins noted that there's no mention of
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destroyer procurement in the budget materials that you provided to this
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committee. My state makes the frigate. I'd also note that there's no mention of the
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destroyers as I said. So really we are looking at a very incomplete budget request
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when we are just four months out from the beginning of the next fiscal year. Mr.
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Secretary, this committee takes the appropriations process seriously. I take
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the hard work of Wisconsin's shipbuilders seriously and I'd like your
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commitment to provide this material to the committee expeditiously so we can do
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our work. Senator, we'll make sure you get all the information but I would what I
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would say is this is a historic investment in shipbuilding both the
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defense industrial base and ships in Wisconsin and particularly related to the
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frigate. It's been a it's been a program with a lot of problems and a lot of
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delays and a lot of modifications that have led to serious challenges. AB has called for
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many modifications to the plan. As I'm not saying that's it's the all the
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fault of the shipyard. There are many ways in which modifications were made that
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changed an existing design so extensively that it led to a ship that was not even
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capable of the original mission it was supposed to execute. So our job is to make
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tough choices on some platforms like that that may not be funded the
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way they were in the past because we have to make some of those tough choices.
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Well we don't have any of the detail right now of what your plans are with
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regard to the frigate or the destroyer and we need that information to do our
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jobs. Can you get it to me? We have that information Senator. We have worked in
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real time in four months to reverse a lot of priorities from the previous
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administration. We have those that those details and that information and we
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will get the committee needs those details. So this committee has also worked
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hard alongside the department to improve recruitment and meet retention goals. The
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department is planning to separate several thousand service members due to
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your partisan beliefs about troops who are transgender. Mr. Secretary I've seen your
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speeches and social media posts but what I'm interested in is the sound policy
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analysis that we would expect from the Secretary of Defense and how this
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misguided decision will impact military readiness. My colleagues and I have
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requested this information from you and we are still waiting to receive it and so I
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will ask you now what assessment did the Department of Defense conduct prior to
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implementation to evaluate the impact that this policy would have on our
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national security. Moreover what is the cost to recruit and train thousands of
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individuals of comparable experience and skill? Thankfully recruiting is not an
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issue it's at historically high levels and we're proud of the cross-section of
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Americans. What analysis did you do? We did extensive analysis Senator and we
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agree with the assessment of the executive order that was issued by the White
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House that there are mental health issues associated with gender dysphoria that
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complicate military service and readiness and as a result we made the decision. I
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have asked for that analysis please provide it to me and the committee. We will
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provide it. And then Mr. Secretary I think we can all agree that we are at a
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critical point in our history with respect to global threats that need to
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counter adversaries like China and Iran. You've gotten a number of questions along
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those lines and I'm disappointed that you are instead focusing on a class of ships
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named for civil rights leaders. You chose Pride Month to direct the Navy to
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rename a ship named for Navy veteran Harvey Milk. This committee will continue to
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pursue serious work in the interests of American national security and I ask you to
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choose to join us in that endeavor. Senator we're not interested in naming ships
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after activists. That's the stance we're taking. All right where we are due to the
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