A day after Prime Minister Modi met all-party delegations on Operation Sindoor outreach, the Congress has called for an all-party meeting.
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00:01Good evening, as you're watching To The Point, I'm Preethi Chaudhary. Let me quickly take you through the headlines.
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00:44External Affairs Minister Jai Shankar hails Operation Sindur's success in Belgium
00:49says disabled-key Pakistan air bases sends strong message to Pakistan.
00:55Pakistan.
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01:28Elon Musk regret statement against Trump on
01:31Epstein Island says,
01:34Post-Operation Sindur, India launched Operation Global Outreach.
01:42Post-Operation Sindur, India launched Operation Global Outreach.
01:567 delegates to several countries putting India's interest on the global map.
02:10The delegations are back.
02:12The Prime Minister briefed by the delegates.
02:14And now, once again, it is the turn of domestic politics.
02:19Will the Prime Minister call an all-party meet?
02:31Take political leaders into confidence on strategy vis-à-vis China and Pakistan,
02:36especially after the CDS's Singapore revelations on India's losses.
02:43Will the Prime Minister debate in Parliament?
02:47Agree to a full debate in the monsoon session on post-Pahalgam foreign and security policy,
02:53since a special session was denied.
02:55Will the Prime Minister act on terror accountability?
03:01Redouble efforts to bring the Pahalgam attackers to justice?
03:05Will the Prime Minister set up a review committee,
03:09establish a Kargil-style expert panel on Operation Sindur,
03:14and tabled a redacted report in Parliament like in 2000?
03:20Will the government give in to opposition demands and pressure?
03:24Top focus on To The Point this evening.
03:31All right, so that's the big question that we are posing today.
03:34Will the government give in to opposition pressure, viewers?
03:37The visuals that you see on your television screen were recorded last night
03:40from seven Lok Kalyan Mark, the Prime Minister's residence.
03:44He hosted a dinner for the seven delegations that had gone across the world
03:48to put forth India's interest and India's point of view
03:52of what will be now a new normal when it comes down to responding to terrorism,
03:59especially from Pakistan.
04:01The Prime Minister met the seven delegations.
04:03Some of them, of course, what you can see on your television screen,
04:06were members from the opposition.
04:08Now, right after that, you had the Congress General Secretary,
04:11this morning put out a tweet.
04:15Jairam Ramesh put out a pointed tweet where he said,
04:18all right, so the Prime Minister has met the seven delegations
04:21and now maybe he can look into a few issues that the Congress has been raising.
04:26And at the back of that tweet, you had Jairam Ramesh,
04:29who along with the Congress has raised pointed questions,
04:33which, mind you, the Congress Party has been raising over the course
04:37of the last few days.
04:39So the Congress has, of course, asked, number one,
04:41that there be a special committee like the one that was constituted
04:45at the time of the Kargil War.
04:48And will the Prime Minister constitute a similar committee like then
04:53and let that committee investigate and then come up with a report?
04:59The other point that has been the Congress wants is, of course,
05:03that an all-party meeting be addressed and chaired by the Prime Minister himself.
05:08There was an all-party meeting earlier.
05:10We were right at the back of the Pehelgham terror attack,
05:13but the Prime Minister did not chair it.
05:15And that has been apparently a grouse with the opposition parties.
05:19The other point that, of course, the opposition has raised is,
05:23will the Prime Minister act on terror accountability?
05:26On this particular point, the opposition, of course,
05:28is asking questions on how is it that four of the perpetrators of terror
05:33where Pehelgham are concerned are still on the run?
05:37Number two, of course, the Congress wants that during the monsoon session,
05:43which is going to take place from the 21st of July,
05:46that there be time which was stipulated by the government
05:51for a full-on debate where Operation Sindhu is concerned.
05:56Once again, let me bring you back to the moot question
05:59that we are asking in this debate,
06:00which is that will the government give in, finally,
06:05to questions, requests, pressure, call it what you may,
06:10coming in from the opposition.
06:11Getting you into our political face-off this evening,
06:15Sanju Verma, National Spokesperson,
06:16Bharatiya Janata Party, Mahima Singh,
06:18National Spokesperson, Congress.
06:20Both the participants and spokespersons will be accorded
06:23a two-minute time to put their point of view forward.
06:27I would like to begin with Mahima Singh.
06:29Mahima Singh, you know, the General Secretary of the Congress,
06:33Jairam Ramesh, has said that now that the delegation have come back,
06:38the Prime Minister has met the delegates,
06:41can he address, and he gave up the four questions.
06:44But these are questions, Mahima Singh,
06:45that you've been asking all along.
06:47It's not that the Congress actually waited
06:48for the delegations to come home.
06:50These were questions that were a tad bit uncomfortable
06:52for the people of your very own party
06:54who were on board these delegations.
06:56So, you've been asking them earlier.
06:57What's so new about them now?
07:02Jai Hind, Preeti, I believe that, you see,
07:06yesterday we saw the Prime Minister meeting,
07:09all the delegations talking to all the counterparts
07:12that went there.
07:14And I believe that the country now wants to hear
07:17what is the status quo of the Operation Sindhur,
07:19which the BJP has very conveniently left open-ended
07:23by stifling the army's autonomy at a time
07:27when the army was, you know, ready and as ready as it could be
07:32to go out and get Pakistan on its knees.
07:37And I think now the delegations have come back earlier.
07:41The government was itself saying that,
07:43you see, we have sent out the governments,
07:45sorry, we have sent out the delegations,
07:47let the delegations come back, you know,
07:50and some of our counterparts were also saying.
07:54And now what we are seeing is that,
07:56one after the other,
07:57there are news reports coming in all these countries,
08:00including the USA and other countries.
08:03We are seeing news reports,
08:05we are seeing news articles coming out,
08:06wherein it is rather being alleged
08:09that there was a parallel campaign
08:11being run in India by the media.
08:13So even the media is having to face
08:15the brunt of the government's lackadaisical conduct.
08:19And I think that should be enough reason
08:22for the government to come out clean,
08:25to speak up to the country,
08:27to present the case as it is,
08:30so that all the mouths can be shut
08:32if how the BJP believes we are asking unnecessarily,
08:37let them come out clean.
08:38Okay, all right.
08:40You know, I've taken the liberty
08:41of not giving a timer in the first round,
08:43and I would hope neither of the participants
08:45would let me down.
08:46So Sanju Verma, let me ask you that question
08:48before we move into a timed debate
08:51on the next question.
08:52This one is without a timer,
08:53so I would hope both of you would honor it.
08:56But Sanju Verma, I don't want to pull you in,
08:57and the question I want to ask is,
08:59some of these are credible questions
09:00that the opposition is asking,
09:02so instead of patronizing the opposition,
09:04maybe come out and address it.
09:05What's so wrong in advocating and allotting
09:09along with that specific time
09:10during the monsoon session
09:12to have a debate when it comes down
09:13to the Pehelgaam terror
09:15and action taken in Operation Sindhur?
09:17What's so wrong in like Kargil,
09:19like Vajpayee did,
09:20to constitute a review committee
09:22like it was made then,
09:24and a proper report being filed
09:26at the back of it?
09:27What's so wrong in asking the Prime Minister
09:29to chair an all-party meet at a time
09:32when something which is so high
09:35on our national interest agenda
09:37has taken place?
09:39There's nothing quite wrong in that, Sanju Verma.
09:41I hope you'd reckon that.
09:43You know, Preeti,
09:45let me make one thing very clear.
09:47The Prime Minister under Article 75
09:49of the Constitution
09:51has enormous amounts of power,
09:54and the opposition seems to have forgotten.
09:56The opposition is not sitting
09:58in the Treasury benches.
10:00They've been booted out
10:01under the so-called leadership
10:03or lack of it of Rahul Gandhi
10:05in three Lok Sabha elections consecutively,
10:08Lok Sabha 2014, 2019, and 2024.
10:12But Vinash Kale, Viparit, Buddhi
10:14is something that the Congress
10:16has come to symbolize.
10:17They refuse to introspect.
10:19They refuse to learn from past mistakes.
10:21They refuse to take any takeaways.
10:24And Prime Minister will do
10:26what he needs to do.
10:28But let me just say one thing.
10:30There have been umpteen number of surveys,
10:33and on an average,
10:3483% of India believed
10:38in Prime Minister Modi,
10:40what he has done
10:41by way of Operation Sindhu,
10:43and the manner in which
10:45Pakistan was dealt a body blow.
10:48So the electorate has no problem.
10:50Problem is all in the minds
10:52of the Congress Party
10:54and its Darbari ecosystem
10:56led by the likes of Jairam Ramesh,
10:58Kavan Khera, what have you.
11:00I want to say one thing.
11:01These guys keep shifting the goalposts.
11:04They first said,
11:05let the army come and
11:06give a press conference,
11:07do a press conference.
11:08We had Sophia Qureshi,
11:11we had wing commander
11:12Ghyomika Singh.
11:14They did the needful,
11:15and they did it
11:16to the best of their abilities.
11:17Then we had the DJMO.
11:19They were detailed,
11:20exhaustive press conference.
11:22The Congress was not satisfied.
11:24The Raksha Mantri
11:25has spoken on Operation Sindhu,
11:26the external affairs minister
11:28has spoken on Operation Sindhu,
11:30the NEA spokesperson
11:32has spoken on Operation Sindhu,
11:34and the Prime Minister,
11:35no less,
11:35has reinforced,
11:37Preeti,
11:37not once,
11:38not twice,
11:39not thrice,
11:40but umpteen times.
11:42Cease fire
11:43nahi hua hai.
11:44We've taken a pause.
11:46Operation Sindhu
11:48is still underway,
11:49but the Congress
11:51simply refuses
11:52to acknowledge
11:53what is being told.
11:55And I am going to say this.
11:56Now, my last point
11:57is this, Preeti.
11:58My final point is this.
12:01I'm not somebody,
12:02you know,
12:02who's going to take
12:03Pakistan
12:04or their Prime Minister's word,
12:06but for whatever
12:07it is worth,
12:07since the Congress Party
12:09keeps quoting Pakistan,
12:11you know,
12:12at the drop of a hat,
12:13let me tell them,
12:14let your audience know
12:15this in 20 seconds.
12:17Pakistan's Prime Minister
12:18Shahbaz Sharif
12:19clearly said
12:20that on the 10th of May
12:21at 4.30 a.m.,
12:23Pakistan wanted to
12:24take action against India,
12:26but they were stunned
12:27by the unleashing
12:28of the Brahmin missile.
12:28All right, okay.
12:29Ma'am, okay,
12:30we're going to come back to that,
12:31but, okay,
12:32I would just want to,
12:33I'm going to now start
12:34introducing the timer,
12:35two minutes each,
12:35to both our participants
12:36in this debate,
12:37but on that note,
12:38and Sanju Verma,
12:40I'll circle back to you,
12:41you know,
12:41this is not changing goalposts,
12:42actually.
12:42These were demands
12:43of not the Congress,
12:44but the opposition
12:45right from the beginning.
12:46They wanted the Prime Minister
12:47to chair an all-party meet,
12:48that's what they're asking,
12:49number one.
12:49They actually wanted
12:50a special session
12:51for Pehel Gham terror attack
12:52in Operation Sindhu,
12:53and now they're asking
12:54stipulated time
12:55be allotted
12:56in the monsoon session.
12:57I would reckon
12:57one new demand
12:59is that a committee
13:00like Kargil
13:01be set up
13:02at the back
13:03of Operation Sindhu,
13:04and I'll circle back
13:04to you on that,
13:05two minutes, Mahima,
13:06saying I want to bring you in.
13:07Mahima saying,
13:08you know,
13:08in politics,
13:09while there is opposition
13:10and there should be
13:11a constructive opposition,
13:12there is always
13:13a bit of give and take.
13:14You're coming at the back
13:15of the leader of opposition
13:17already floating
13:18the theory of Narendra surrender
13:19and hyphenating surrender
13:22with the Prime Minister
13:23of India.
13:25So would you think
13:26that's good faith
13:27going into
13:28all these demands
13:30that the opposition
13:31rightfully is asking?
13:32Preeti,
13:36what good faith
13:37is not,
13:38let me tell you.
13:39You see,
13:39I was listening
13:40to the VJP spokesperson
13:41and at the very outset
13:43of her convenient narrative,
13:45she said,
13:46well,
13:46the Prime Minister
13:47will do
13:48what he needs to
13:49and she relied
13:50on some survey
13:51which I don't think
13:53you have put out
13:54on your show
13:54or I do not know
13:56the credibility
13:57of what is the methodology
13:59of that survey.
14:00This government
14:01very conveniently relies
14:03on these surveys,
14:05selective surveys.
14:06When it comes
14:07to answerability,
14:08accountability,
14:08they run away
14:09from reports.
14:10They run away
14:11from various analysis.
14:15But when it comes
14:15to the surveys
14:17which conveniently
14:18favor them,
14:19so I am not aware
14:20of that survey,
14:20number one.
14:21Number two is that,
14:22Preeti,
14:22we have been again
14:23and again saying
14:24that these very terrorists
14:26which are still out
14:27on the loose,
14:28by the way,
14:28which have not
14:29been nailed down,
14:30have been,
14:31you know,
14:32participative,
14:33have been responsible
14:34for three previous
14:35attacks in the past
14:3618 months.
14:37So four attacks
14:38in total.
14:38Where are those terrorists?
14:40Why can't the BJP
14:41come out and address
14:42the elephant in the room?
14:43Every time it is asked,
14:45they start thumping
14:46their chest.
14:47They start saying
14:48that, you see,
14:48we have carried out
14:49this operation
14:49which, by the way,
14:51the army has carried out.
14:53It is the army's wailer,
14:54not the BJP's.
14:55And the army
14:56and its earlier chiefs
14:58like AJB Jenny G
14:59have come out.
15:00General AJB Jenny
15:01came out and said
15:02that earlier
15:02there was no politicization
15:04of these issues
15:05and these strikes
15:06were always there.
15:07Only the names
15:08were different
15:08and he very much said
15:10that the governments
15:10always gave free hand.
15:12Army always had a free hand.
15:14Unlike this time
15:14when it was stifled,
15:15by the way.
15:16So let me just say
15:17that the government
15:18must address
15:19the elephant in the room.
15:20all we are asking
15:21is to live by
15:23the precedents
15:24of their own
15:24erstwhile prime ministers.
15:26Why can't the BJP
15:27go by that?
15:27You are talking about
15:28Narender Surrender Preeti.
15:30We have seen
15:31Trump say it again
15:32and again.
15:33We have seen
15:34Putin now come out
15:35and, you know,
15:36support Trump's narrative.
15:37We have seen
15:38a lot of...
15:38Ma'am, your time is up.
15:39I'd like to shift
15:40two minutes
15:41and I want to go across
15:41to Sanju Verma.
15:42Sanju Verma,
15:43the question is,
15:44A, yes,
15:44I don't know that
15:4583% survey
15:46because we had a survey
15:47just two days ago
15:49where political stock exchange
15:50was concerned
15:51and that wasn't the figure
15:52so we'll only be looking
15:53at the figures
15:53that we put out.
15:54But having said that,
15:55let's say
15:56that you
15:57or the BJP
15:58feels that 100%
16:00of people support
16:01the prime minister
16:02in what he does.
16:03That still doesn't
16:04take away
16:04the right of the opposition
16:05to ask questions,
16:08to demand answers
16:09and to get
16:11the response
16:12from the government.
16:13This is a democratically
16:14elected opposition.
16:16You are an elected government
16:17but this is also
16:18an elected opposition
16:19and if you go
16:20by vote share
16:212024,
16:22Sanju Verma,
16:22it's not very far off
16:23from where you stand.
16:24It's actually
16:24practically the same.
16:27Preeti,
16:27now you've asked me
16:28a question.
16:29I don't wish to be rude.
16:31There is nothing
16:31called a democratically
16:32elected opposition.
16:34You have a democratically
16:36elected ruling party
16:37and because
16:38the opposition
16:39fails to win
16:40the requisite number
16:41of votes,
16:42by default
16:42they sit in the opposition.
16:44People don't elect
16:45a democratically
16:46elected opposition
16:47so Preeti,
16:47don't settle this
16:48whataboutery
16:49on your show.
16:50I have a lot of
16:51respect for you.
16:51Please don't go down
16:52that path.
16:53But let me come
16:54to the moot point.
16:55The moot point,
16:56Preeti,
16:56is this.
16:57And I'm not going
16:58to shy away
16:59or get tired
17:00of saying this.
17:01I've done a zillion
17:01shows on your
17:02channel.
17:04And let me say this.
17:05The biggest demand
17:06of the opposition
17:08or rather Rahul Gandhi
17:09is we want
17:10a special session.
17:11Special session.
17:12Special session.
17:13Operation Nexuz.
17:1513th April 1984
17:17after the
17:18CHN standoff
17:19between India
17:20and Pakistan.
17:22Indira Gandhi
17:22clearly said
17:24no special session.
17:26Operation Blue Star.
17:2712th to 6th June 1984
17:30despite demand
17:31from the opposition.
17:32Indira Gandhi said
17:33special session
17:35ki zarurat bilkul
17:36hai hi nahi.
17:37Operation Pawan.
17:3911th October 1987
17:41under an incompetent
17:43Rajiv Gandhi
17:43went on
17:44for three and a half years.
17:45More than 30,000
17:46people lost
17:47both in India
17:48and Sri Lanka.
17:49Despite various demands
17:51Rajiv Gandhi said
17:52special session
17:53ki zarurat hai hi nahi.
17:56And then comes
17:57Operation Cactus.
17:583rd November 1988
18:00after the regime
18:01change in Maldives
18:02everybody
18:03including people
18:05who are not
18:05political stakeholders
18:07said
18:07why did India
18:08have to
18:09you know
18:09interfere in
18:10what happens
18:11in Maldives.
18:12Special session
18:13bulao.
18:13And Rajiv Gandhi
18:15said
18:15special session
18:16ki zarurat nahi.
18:17But let me say
18:18one thing.
18:19This is not
18:19the convenient truth.
18:21There are
18:21umpteen surveys.
18:22I would request
18:23the Congress
18:23spokesperson
18:24to read
18:25educate Hassan
18:26rather than
18:27coming across
18:27as an ignoramus
18:28and saying
18:29kami ka pata nahi
18:30kamsa survey
18:30after you are
18:32sitting in the opposition.
18:33Sanju Garma
18:33ma'am your time
18:34is up
18:34and you know
18:35because you made a point
18:36and I allowed you
18:37to have you say
18:37but let me also
18:38say something.
18:39You might have a lot
18:39of respect for me.
18:40I share the similar
18:41sentiment like I don't
18:42tell you to go down
18:43a certain path.
18:44I'd appreciate
18:44exactly the same
18:45sentiment from you
18:47so do not tell me
18:47what path I need
18:48to go down.
18:49But having said that
18:50where you said
18:51you cannot
18:52that there is not
18:53a democratically
18:53elected opposition
18:55the sheer fact
18:56that this country
18:57has given exactly
18:57the same amount
18:58of vote share
18:59to the opposition.
19:00The last time around
19:01there was no position
19:03for the leader
19:04of opposition
19:05because the country
19:06did not accord him
19:07the kind of percentage
19:08or a party
19:09the percentage
19:09to sit in terms
19:11of number of seats
19:12in the opposition.
19:13So madam
19:13you might be mistaken
19:14but yes
19:15the country
19:16also elects
19:17an opposition.
19:19I want to give him
19:19two two minutes each
19:20you can choose the time
19:21you can choose
19:22that two minutes
19:23to continue talking
19:25about the anchor
19:25that's your prerogative
19:26but I want to shift
19:27right now
19:28two minutes
19:28to Mahima Singh.
19:29Mahima Singh
19:30with being
19:32the principal
19:33opposition
19:34also comes
19:35with principal
19:36responsibility
19:37and accountability.
19:39When you try
19:39and hyphenate
19:40the prime minister
19:41of this country
19:42with surrender
19:43at a time
19:44when an operation
19:44is still ongoing
19:45you do the biggest
19:46disservice to the country.
19:48So at the back
19:48of that
19:49then to come
19:50and then demand
19:51that the sitting government
19:53actually listens
19:54to an opposition
19:55is a little far fetched
19:57because you've already
19:58somewhere down the line
19:59dragged them down
20:00the hole
20:00of hyphenating
20:02on a global level.
20:03The prime minister
20:04would surrender.
20:04Why should the government
20:05listen to you now?
20:06Two minutes ma'am.
20:09See Preeti
20:11you see
20:11the word hyphenation
20:13you know
20:14in the recent times
20:15we have seen
20:16how India
20:18has been hyphenated
20:18with Pakistan
20:19you're talking about
20:20hyphenating prime minister
20:21with the word surrender.
20:23What do we say Preeti?
20:24Our simple request
20:26and not only ours
20:28but the whole country
20:29and we have been
20:30resonating that request
20:31as a responsible
20:32dignified opposition
20:34is that
20:36let the prime minister
20:37of our country
20:38who is a self-proclaimed
20:40Vishwa guru
20:41you see
20:42who is
20:42for the BJP
20:44he's the ultimate authority
20:45ultimate power
20:46why can he not
20:47come out
20:48and plainly
20:49rebut
20:50what
20:51Mr. Trump
20:52has reiterated
20:5312 times
20:55within a span
20:56of 25 days.
20:57you know
20:58a dozen times
20:59Mr. Trump
21:00comes out
21:00and says
21:00and what we saw
21:02just two days ago
21:03Preeti
21:03we saw
21:04an Indian boy
21:05beaten up
21:06brutally
21:06in an inhumane
21:07manner
21:08you know
21:09on the
21:09at the American
21:11airport
21:12an Indian
21:13entrepreneur
21:13voicing that
21:15an Indian
21:16an Indian
21:16entrepreneur
21:17has the courage
21:19has the
21:19you know
21:20the sort of
21:21responsible
21:23stance
21:24to come out
21:25and condemn that
21:26but our prime minister
21:27will not condemn
21:28how America
21:29treated our
21:30immigrants
21:31how America
21:32has been
21:32hyphenating
21:33India
21:33and Pakistan
21:34how America
21:35has been
21:36coming on terms
21:37with China
21:38how Indian
21:39government
21:40has been
21:40going ahead
21:41conducting trade
21:43with China
21:44how we were
21:45ignored at the
21:45G7 summit
21:46for the longest
21:47time
21:47and then the
21:48last minute
21:49invitation came
21:50and the prime
21:51minister just
21:51pounced at it
21:52so what do we
21:53say when
21:54when a prime
21:55minister
21:55you know
21:56has a
21:57the only response
21:58our prime
21:58minister has
21:59is the
21:59dumbfounded
22:00silence
22:00which annoys
22:02us all
22:03which worries
22:03us all
22:04which concerns
22:04the whole
22:05country
22:05not only the
22:06whole country
22:07let me tell
22:08you it's for
22:08the first time
22:08the world
22:09is watching
22:09India
22:10the time
22:11is up
22:11like you know
22:13the BJP
22:14spokesperson said
22:15that India
22:16stands with
22:16the prime
22:17minister
22:17the sheer fact
22:18you're sitting
22:18in the opposition
22:19today
22:20Mahima Singh
22:20is because
22:21the country
22:22has voted
22:23in the prime
22:23minister
22:24so you know
22:24when you use
22:25the whole
22:25country
22:26is asking
22:27that question
22:27let's not
22:28get into
22:28absolutes
22:29because you
22:30and I both
22:31know better
22:31on where
22:31you stand
22:32where it
22:33comes down
22:33to electoral
22:34dividends
22:35which the
22:36BJP got
22:37and you got
22:37but ma'am
22:38I'll come
22:38back to you
22:39I want to
22:40give in two
22:40minutes to
22:40Sanju Varma
22:41to come in
22:41for a rebuttal
22:42and Sanju
22:43Varma that's
22:43all the time
22:44that I have
22:44for you can
22:45choose it to
22:45attack the
22:46anchor or make
22:46your party
22:47point
22:47go ahead
22:47I will make
22:49my party
22:49point
22:50I am not
22:51attacking
22:51Preeti Chowdhury
22:52but if
22:52Preeti Chowdhury
22:53engages in
22:53what about
22:54me I will
22:54call out
22:55a bluff
22:55very simply
22:56it's as
22:57simple as
22:58that
22:58now let me
22:59come to
22:59the mood
22:59point
23:00you know
23:00these people
23:01keep saying
23:01Narendra
23:02surrender
23:02I will tell
23:04you when
23:04we surrender
23:05when Pandit
23:06Nehru gave
23:07away 38,000
23:08square kilometers
23:09of upside chill
23:10on a golden
23:11platter to the
23:11Chinese
23:12when we lost
23:13in 1962
23:14war with China
23:15it is then
23:16that Pandit
23:16Nehru surrendered
23:17when did we
23:18surrender
23:18we surrendered
23:19via a lame
23:20dark Shimla
23:21agreement in
23:211972
23:22wherein Indira
23:23Gandhi could
23:24not get
23:24back 54
23:25Indian POWs
23:26who were left
23:27to languish
23:28and rot in
23:28Pakistan
23:28but she gave
23:30away 93,000
23:31Pakistani POWs
23:33to Pakistan
23:33on a golden
23:34platter
23:34surrender happened
23:36when Indira
23:36Gandhi caved
23:37into every
23:38ridiculous demand
23:39of Dhulsikar
23:40Ali Bhutto
23:40surrender happened
23:42when the Indian
23:43Air Force was
23:43willing to avenge
23:44the Mumbai
23:4526-11
23:46terror attack
23:47and Salih
23:48Homi Major
23:48the then
23:49IEF chief
23:50is on record
23:50saying that
23:51Manmohan Singh
23:52and Sonia Gandhi
23:53refused to take
23:54action against
23:54Pakistan
23:55surrender happened
23:56in 1974
23:58when Indira Gandhi
23:59gave away
24:00Kaccha Thivu
24:00violence to
24:01Sri Lanka
24:01saying oh
24:02it's a
24:03barren piece
24:03of rock
24:04surrender happened
24:05when the Congress
24:07refused to take
24:07any action
24:08post the
24:09Samjhota Express
24:10blast
24:10Malagao
24:11blast
24:12German
24:12bakery
24:13blast
24:13Chinnaswami
24:14stadium
24:14blast
24:15the
24:15Kharagpur
24:16bombing
24:17the Kalyan
24:17train
24:18bombing
24:18the Coimbatore
24:19bombing
24:19the Jaipur
24:20blast
24:21the Ahmedabad
24:22blast
24:22as far as
24:23we are concerned
24:24Briti
24:24for the first
24:25time in
24:26India's
24:27history
24:27not only
24:28did we
24:29cross the
24:30LOC
24:30not only
24:31did we
24:31cross the
24:32international
24:32border
24:33not only
24:34did we
24:34go beyond
24:35POK
24:35via
24:36Operation
24:37Sindur
24:37we struck
24:38at the
24:39very heart
24:39of Pakistan
24:40as Prime
24:41Minister Modi
24:41did not
24:42kill the
24:43house
24:44this time
24:45Pakistan
24:46has
24:46attacked
24:46Rajasthan
24:49your time
24:50is up
24:50and that's
24:51all the time
24:51that I have
24:52for in this
24:53debate
24:53first a
24:55handshake
24:55that many
24:56thought
24:57was impossible
24:58a meeting
25:00of the two
25:01since the
25:01Congress
25:02lost Rajasthan
25:03elections
25:03in 2023
25:04now
25:07Rajasthan
25:08Congress
25:08leaders
25:09Sachin
25:10Pilate
25:10and
25:11Ashok
25:11Gailot
25:12on the
25:12same
25:13stage
25:13to mark
25:14the 25th
25:15death
25:15anniversary
25:16of Rajasthan's
25:17ex-union
25:18minister
25:18and Sachin
25:19Pilate's
25:20father
25:20Rajesh
25:21Pilate
25:22is there
25:24a real
25:25thought
25:25in the
25:26Sachin
25:26Pilate
25:27Ashok
25:27Gailot
25:28feud
25:28in a
25:30rare
25:31gesture
25:31hinting
25:32at
25:32reconciliation
25:33Sachin
25:34Pilate
25:34met
25:35Ashok
25:35Gailot
25:36in
25:36Jaipur
25:37after
25:37years
25:38of
25:38acrimony
25:38personally
25:39inviting him
25:40to a memorial
25:41for his
25:41late father
25:42Rajesh
25:43Pilate
25:43and Ashok
25:44Gailot
25:45accepted
25:46and Ashok
25:49Gailot
25:50attended the
25:51memorial at
25:52Dosa
25:52after years of
25:56acrimony
25:56have the two
25:57buried the
25:58hatchet
25:59is this
26:00truly
26:01a political
26:02ceasefire
26:02top focus
26:04onto the
26:04point
26:05joining me
26:07right now
26:07is Congress
26:08senior leader
26:09Sachin
26:09Pilate
26:09himself
26:10appreciate
26:10you taking
26:11the time
26:12out
26:12Mr.
26:12Pilate
26:12for joining
26:13us on
26:13this
26:13quick
26:14chat
26:14first up
26:16sir
26:16somber
26:16moment
26:17today
26:17marking
26:18the death
26:18anniversary
26:19of your
26:19father
26:1925 years
26:20on
26:21yeah
26:27it's
26:28hard to
26:29believe
26:29it's been
26:30that many
26:30years now
26:31and this
26:32day exactly
26:3325 years
26:33ago
26:33is when we
26:34lost him
26:35and we
26:36always mark
26:37his death
26:38anniversary
26:38with a
26:39prayer meet
26:39and today
26:40also in
26:41Dosa
26:41right the
26:42spot where
26:42he had
26:42the accident
26:43is where
26:44we have
26:44this prayer
26:44meet
26:44every year
26:45Mr.
26:47Pilate
26:47a lot
26:48is said
26:48about
26:48you know
26:49a person
26:50in terms
26:50of 25
26:51years on
26:52you had
26:53many leaders
26:53from the
26:54Congress
26:54senior leaders
26:55as well
26:56coming to
26:56the fore
26:57people fondly
26:58still
26:58remembering
26:59Mr.
27:00Pilate
27:01your father
27:01Rajesh
27:02Pilate
27:02yes it's
27:06very humbling
27:07but I'm
27:07also very
27:08thankful
27:08to not
27:09just the
27:09leaders
27:10but average
27:11people
27:11people in
27:12Rajasthan
27:12all over
27:13the country
27:13that they
27:14still remember
27:14him fondly
27:15and I think
27:15it's a measure
27:16of what
27:17impression a
27:18politician
27:18leaves on
27:19people
27:1925 years
27:20is a long
27:20time
27:21and I
27:22think
27:22he did
27:23in his
27:23public life
27:24really create
27:25a positive
27:26impact
27:26on people
27:28on society
27:28and I
27:29think
27:29it's
27:31something to
27:31be proud
27:32of as a
27:32son
27:32but also
27:33as a
27:33politician
27:34I think
27:34I have a
27:35lot to
27:35look up
27:35to
27:36and try
27:37and see
27:37if I can
27:38follow on
27:38his paths
27:38but it's
27:39very humbling
27:40very comforting
27:40and I'm
27:41very thankful
27:42for all the
27:43people who
27:43have wished
27:43and prayed
27:44and supported
27:45us and
27:45supported me
27:46all along
27:46in these
27:4725 years
27:47on a
27:49personal
27:49question
27:50Mr.
27:50Pilot
27:51how well
27:52do you
27:52think
27:52you've
27:52carried
27:53your
27:53father's
27:53legacy
27:54many
27:54would
27:54say
27:54that
27:55you've
27:55done
27:55a
27:55very
27:55good
27:55job
27:56when you
27:56look
27:56back
27:57I think
28:01that's
28:02very generous
28:03anyone who
28:03says that
28:04those are
28:05different times
28:06I mean I
28:06came from
28:07a very
28:07different
28:08background
28:08my father
28:09was an
28:09air force
28:10he was a
28:10member of
28:11parliament
28:11I had a
28:12good school
28:12education
28:12I had all
28:13the creature
28:14comforts that
28:15one can
28:15imagine
28:15but yet
28:16he made
28:17us live
28:17very humbly
28:18and simply
28:19but where
28:19he came
28:20from
28:20and the
28:20roots that
28:21he actually
28:22started up
28:23from
28:23were very
28:24very different
28:24he was very
28:25challenging
28:25times for him
28:26he lost his
28:26father at
28:27age of 8
28:27he had
28:28sisters to
28:29marry
28:29he had
28:30he worked
28:31in a dairy
28:31near New Delhi
28:32supplied milk
28:34to all these
28:34Luton Delhi
28:35bungalows
28:35in Delhi
28:36and he really
28:37worked his way
28:37up to become
28:38an air force
28:38officer
28:39and then to
28:40have accomplished
28:40that
28:40to give that
28:41up and join
28:42public life
28:43and the
28:43hurly burly
28:44of politics
28:44was a very
28:45challenging
28:45decision for him
28:46it's very
28:46challenging for
28:47a young
28:47pilot officer
28:48to leave
28:48a comfortable
28:49job and
28:50take up
28:50public life
28:51he did that
28:52but I think
28:53he was able
28:53to do a lot
28:54more
28:54I think he
28:56was there
28:56for 19
28:57years in
28:57public life
28:57that's it
28:58just 19
28:58years
28:58I've had
28:59now 21
29:00so I think
29:01it's wrong
29:01to compare
29:02I don't think
29:03I'll ever match
29:03up to what
29:04he was able
29:04to achieve
29:05given the
29:05fact that
29:05he came
29:06from a
29:06very different
29:06and a
29:07very humble
29:08background
29:09but I try
29:10and do
29:10whatever little
29:11bit I can
29:12given the
29:12opportunities
29:13but yes
29:13God has been
29:14kind
29:14people have
29:15been very
29:15nice and
29:15kind to
29:16me and
29:16I couldn't
29:18have asked
29:19for more
29:19well Mr
29:21Pilot many
29:21would say
29:22that you
29:23know you
29:23might have
29:23had it
29:24easy in
29:24the beginning
29:25with being
29:25one of the
29:26youngest
29:26member of
29:26parliament
29:27and ministers
29:28in the
29:29beginning
29:29but you
29:30also have
29:31had fair
29:31amount of
29:32rough and
29:32tumble of
29:33Indian
29:33politics
29:34and you've
29:34seen it
29:34up close
29:35and personal
29:35where Rajasthan
29:36is concerned
29:36and one
29:38would also
29:39say one
29:40of the
29:40reasons for
29:41that was
29:41a man
29:42who was
29:42standing
29:42next to
29:43you today
29:43who you
29:44after I
29:45would reckon
29:452023
29:46loss of
29:48Rajasthan
29:48for the
29:49congress
29:49initiated
29:50a meeting
29:51and invitation
29:52for the
29:54memorial
29:54today
29:54Mr.
29:55Rashad Gailoth
29:56Well
30:01this was
30:02today was
30:03not a
30:03political
30:03function
30:04but yes
30:05of course
30:05it was a
30:07personal
30:07invite
30:08that I
30:08sent to
30:08a lot
30:09of people
30:09because
30:10today was
30:1025th
30:10year of
30:11his death
30:11anniversary
30:12the local
30:14people wanted
30:14to do a
30:15much larger
30:16gathering
30:16and you know
30:17to really
30:17remember him
30:18in a bigger
30:18fashion
30:19and so I
30:20reached out
30:20to everybody
30:21who I
30:21could
30:21and everybody
30:22came
30:23I think
30:23the fact
30:24that people
30:25put aside
30:25everything else
30:26and remembered
30:27the man
30:27who contributed
30:28in Rajasthan
30:29in the
30:29congress party
30:30all his
30:30colleagues
30:31all his
30:31friends
30:32people who
30:33worked with
30:33him
30:33they were
30:34from a
30:34different
30:34generation
30:35but they
30:36all came
30:36forward
30:36and gave
30:37their tributes
30:38to him
30:39today
30:39so I am
30:39very thankful
30:40to everybody
30:40who came
30:41and I
30:42think
30:42moving ahead
30:43now
30:44one has to
30:44look at
30:45how the
30:45congress party
30:46can be
30:47strengthened
30:47in Rajasthan
30:48and all
30:48over India
30:49and like
30:50Mr.
30:50Kharge
30:50and Mr.
30:50Gandhi
30:51have said
30:51that this
30:522025
30:52is the year
30:53for organisation
30:54this is the
30:54year when
30:55we have to
30:55strengthen
30:56our workers
30:57and our
30:57cadre
30:57to take
30:58on the
30:58challenges
30:58that are
30:59coming up
30:59in the next
30:59couple of
31:00years
31:00Rajasthan
31:01goes to
31:01polls
31:01in about
31:02three years
31:02time
31:02but we have
31:04many state
31:04elections
31:04that we need
31:05to face
31:06so we have
31:06to work
31:06unitedly
31:07and work
31:07together
31:08together
31:08the country
31:09the country
31:09needs an
31:09alternative
31:09and the
31:10congress
31:10party
31:11can be
31:12that
31:12viable
31:12alternative
31:12but we
31:13have to
31:13strengthen
31:13ourselves
31:14and make
31:15ourselves
31:15even stronger
31:16as we
31:16go on
31:17Mr.
31:18Pilot
31:18was this
31:19the reason
31:19that you
31:19just gave
31:20that you
31:21know it's
31:21time to
31:21strengthen
31:22the organisation
31:22you're three
31:23years away
31:23and you need
31:24to come
31:25together
31:25the reason
31:26what made
31:27Sachin Pilot
31:28go after many
31:30many years
31:30and invite
31:31the person
31:32who had
31:33openly
31:33used
31:34language
31:34of
31:34Gaddar
31:35I can
31:35name a
31:36couple
31:36of
31:36few
31:36other
31:36words
31:37as well
31:37you know
31:38one might
31:39say that it
31:40wasn't much
31:41but it was
31:41an acrimonious
31:42political battle
31:43fought publicly
31:44between you
31:45and Mr.
31:45Gelloth
31:46Preeti in life
31:51what has
31:52gone by
31:52won't come
31:53back again
31:53one has to
31:54look ahead
31:55now what
31:55happened in
31:56the past
31:56we can
31:57think and
31:58talk and
31:58deliberate all
31:58we want
31:59but time
31:59won't come
32:00back and
32:01we have to
32:01look ahead
32:02we have to
32:02look forward
32:02and we have
32:03to move
32:03on quite
32:03frankly
32:04but for
32:05me to
32:05go and
32:05invite
32:06somebody
32:06on a
32:07personal
32:07function
32:08and you
32:08know
32:08people
32:09coming to
32:09that
32:09function
32:10I think
32:10is a good
32:11gesture
32:11and a lot
32:12of it
32:12also is
32:13hyped up
32:14you talked
32:15about 2023
32:16election
32:16we fought
32:17that election
32:18together
32:18we all
32:19fought
32:19and we
32:20did pretty
32:20well
32:20actually
32:21we didn't
32:21win the
32:21elections
32:21but usually
32:23we would
32:23lose by
32:23a huge
32:24margin
32:24this time
32:24the difference
32:25was very
32:25little
32:26we had
32:26about 70
32:27MLAs
32:27out of 200
32:28it wasn't
32:28a bad
32:29performance
32:29previously
32:30we had
32:30only 21
32:31or 50
32:31this time
32:32we had
32:3270
32:32MLAs
32:33so I
32:33think
32:34we could
32:35have
32:35obviously
32:36try and
32:38win the
32:38election
32:38we didn't
32:39win
32:39but we
32:39came quite
32:40close
32:41but now
32:42we have
32:42good performance
32:43in Lok Sabha
32:43Rajasthan
32:44Congress
32:44Party
32:45has given
32:45a good
32:45performance
32:45India
32:46Alliance
32:46has done
32:47well
32:47in some
32:47parts
32:48of North
32:48India
32:48and we
32:49need to
32:49move
32:49forward
32:50and
32:50strengthen
32:50ourselves
32:50it's not
32:51about
32:51individuals
32:52quite frankly
32:53we work
32:53in an
32:53organisation
32:54the country
32:55needs a
32:55very strong
32:55opposition
32:56and
32:57Congress
32:57Party
32:58is the
32:58pivot
32:58around
32:59which
32:59the entire
33:00opposition
33:01is structured
33:02around
33:02and looking
33:02forward
33:03to working
33:03so we
33:04have to
33:04move
33:04forward
33:05we have
33:05to look
33:05ahead
33:05and we
33:07have to
33:07be positive
33:08so Mr.
33:09Pilot was
33:102023
33:11the state
33:13elections
33:14that moment
33:15now that
33:15made you
33:16realise
33:17that
33:17because
33:18many would
33:19say
33:19the Congress
33:20came so
33:21close yet
33:21lost that
33:22election
33:22has that
33:24been the
33:25reason with
33:26which Sachin
33:26Pilot
33:27went to a
33:27show
33:27three years
33:28before
33:28Rajasthan
33:29election
33:29to truly
33:30call for
33:31political
33:32ceasefire
33:33for whatever
33:33reasons
33:34they might
33:34be
33:34I think
33:38we use
33:39the word
33:39ceasefire
33:39quite loosely
33:40nowadays
33:40so let's
33:41not do
33:41that
33:41there was
33:42no war
33:44for a
33:44ceasefire
33:45to bury
33:46the hatchet
33:46let me use
33:47that one
33:47so like I
33:52said
33:52there is
33:53no
33:53the common
33:54objective
33:55was to
33:55fight
33:56defeat
33:56BJP
33:56and win
33:57elections
33:57some people
33:58have a
33:58different way
33:59of working
33:59sometimes
33:59there is
34:00difference
34:00of opinion
34:00but in
34:01the congress
34:02party
34:02we can
34:02sit
34:02together
34:03hash out
34:03those
34:04differences
34:04and move
34:05forward
34:05and you
34:06know
34:06there is
34:07nothing wrong
34:08in having
34:09a different
34:09approach
34:09as long
34:10as your
34:10commitments
34:11are all
34:12common
34:13and that's
34:13what it
34:14was
34:14and quite
34:15frankly
34:152023
34:16was an
34:16election
34:17where the
34:17congress
34:17party
34:17usually
34:18when we
34:18are in
34:18government
34:19we lose
34:20very badly
34:20out of 200
34:22seats once
34:22we got 20
34:23other time
34:24we got 50
34:24this time
34:25we did 50%
34:26better
34:26we got 70
34:27odd seats
34:27so we
34:28all worked
34:29hard
34:29we gave
34:29it our
34:29best
34:30unfortunately
34:30it was
34:31short of
34:31getting a
34:32majority
34:32but I
34:33keep saying
34:34we should
34:34not look
34:35back
34:35we have
34:35to look
34:35ahead
34:36we have
34:36elections
34:36now in
34:37Assam
34:37in Kerala
34:38and Bihar
34:38now then
34:39two and a half
34:40three years
34:40later we have
34:41Madhya Pradesh
34:42Satishgarh
34:42Rajasthan
34:42so all these
34:43state elections
34:43are important
34:44and I keep
34:44saying unless
34:45we win state
34:46elections
34:46it's so important
34:47for the congress
34:47party and for
34:48all of us
34:48to win state
34:49elections
34:49and that sets
34:50the tone
34:51for the
34:51loks of
34:52elections
34:52which is also
34:53only four
34:53years away
34:54and time
34:54flies very
34:55quickly
34:55so I think
34:56we all have
34:56to work
34:56together
34:57congress party
34:58is the
34:58platform
34:59that can be
34:59a voice
35:00of the
35:00people
35:00and Mr.
35:01Gandhi
35:01within
35:01parliament
35:02outside
35:02parliament
35:02has been
35:03taking it
35:03on himself
35:04to question
35:05and put
35:06the government
35:06to task
35:07when it
35:07needs to
35:07make it
35:08answerable
35:08and we
35:09all have
35:09to support
35:09that endeavour
35:10whether it's
35:11Mr.
35:11Kharge or
35:12Mr.
35:12Gandhi
35:12and we
35:13all work
35:13as a team
35:13so I
35:14think not
35:15just myself
35:16but everybody
35:16in the
35:16congress
35:17party
35:17has a
35:18common view
35:18on how
35:19to move
35:19forward
35:19and fight
35:20this battle
35:21unitedly
35:21well it
35:22does seem
35:23so you
35:23know Mr.
35:24Pilot
35:24I'll ask
35:24you two
35:24final
35:25questions
35:25because
35:26you had
35:27even Mr.
35:28Gailoth
35:28who actually
35:29went on
35:29to say
35:29some would
35:30find it
35:30a tad
35:30bit funny
35:31but went
35:31on to
35:31say
35:32so how
35:34much
35:34did the
35:35top brass
35:36of the
35:36congress
35:36you speak
35:37of Rahul
35:37Gandhi
35:38paying a
35:39pivotal
35:39role
35:40in maybe
35:40bringing
35:41the two
35:41of you
35:41together
35:42or was
35:42it
35:42something
35:42that you
35:43initiated
35:43and you
35:44got a
35:44favourable
35:45response
35:45back
35:46I think
35:50reading far
35:51too much
35:51into this
35:52the distance
35:53you know
35:53we all
35:54work in
35:55the same
35:55organisation
35:55we all
35:56had to
35:56work in
35:57elections
35:57Lok Sabha
35:58elections
35:58Vidhan
35:59Sabha
35:59elections
35:59so you
36:00can have
36:00some
36:01difference
36:01of opinion
36:01in the
36:02past
36:02people
36:03overcome
36:03that
36:04life
36:04goes
36:04on
36:04we
36:04have
36:05to
36:05look
36:05ahead
36:05and
36:06you
36:07talked
36:07about
36:07Mr.
36:07Ashok
36:08Gailoth
36:08he is
36:0930
36:09years
36:09older
36:09than
36:10I
36:10am
36:10and
36:11he
36:11got
36:11elected
36:11to
36:11parliament
36:12along
36:12with
36:12my
36:12father
36:12in
36:131980
36:13so
36:14that
36:14much
36:15value
36:16system
36:16of
36:16family
36:17has
36:17inculcated
36:17in
36:17me
36:18that
36:18you
36:18give
36:18regard
36:19and
36:19respect
36:19to
36:19people
36:19older
36:20than
36:20you
36:20sometimes
36:21you
36:21say
36:22things
36:22that
36:22you
36:22may
36:22not
36:23mean
36:23or
36:23something
36:23come
36:23out
36:24that
36:24are
36:25perhaps
36:25not
36:26meant
36:27in
36:27the
36:27way
36:27they're
36:28supposed
36:28to
36:28be
36:28but
36:28I
36:29think
36:29we
36:29have
36:29to
36:29move
36:30on
36:30I
36:31say
36:32some
36:32things
36:32a lot
36:32of
36:32times
36:33but
36:33one
36:33must
36:33not
36:34hold
36:34on
36:34to
36:34that
36:34and
36:35we
36:35have
36:35to
36:35move
36:35forward
36:36you
36:37are
36:37right
36:37there
36:37you
36:37have
36:37to
36:38move
36:38forward
36:38you
36:38are
36:38doing
36:38it
36:39three
36:39years
36:40before
36:40the
36:40general
36:40elections
36:41and
36:41Mr.
36:42Pilot
36:42like
36:42they
36:43say
36:43the
36:43old
36:43needs
36:44to
36:44give
36:44way
36:44to
36:44the
36:44new
36:45is
36:45that
36:45going
36:46to
36:46be
36:46the
36:46order
36:46of
36:47the
36:47day
36:47when
36:47going
36:48ahead
36:48and
36:48fighting
36:48the
36:49Rajasthan
36:49elections
36:50you
36:52are
36:53always
36:54looking
36:54for
36:54headlines
36:55that's
36:55the
36:55problem
36:56so
36:56I
36:57don't
36:57mean
36:57to
36:57say
36:57anything
36:57of
36:58that
36:58nature
36:58all
36:59I
36:59am
36:59saying
36:59is
36:59that
36:59the
37:01thing
37:01is
37:01in
37:02elections
37:03the
37:03BJP
37:04has
37:04a
37:04formidable
37:05election
37:05machine
37:05you
37:06know
37:06how
37:06they
37:06have
37:07actually
37:07compromised
37:08on the
37:08credibility
37:09of
37:09institutions
37:10the
37:10election
37:10commission
37:11like
37:11Mr.
37:11Gandhi
37:11said
37:12is
37:12under
37:13a
37:13lot
37:13of
37:13speculation
37:14as to
37:15are they
37:15working
37:15in the
37:16right
37:16way
37:16so
37:17when
37:17you
37:17have
37:17a
37:17party
37:18that
37:18is
37:18in
37:18power
37:19both
37:19in
37:19Jaipur
37:20and
37:20in
37:20Delhi
37:20and
37:21they
37:21have
37:21got
37:21the
37:21resources
37:22and
37:22ability
37:23to
37:24manipulate
37:24after
37:25all
37:26of
37:26that
37:26we
37:26have
37:26to
37:26be
37:26very
37:27strong
37:27at
37:27the
37:27grassroots
37:28to
37:28be
37:28able
37:28to
37:28fight
37:29that
37:29battle
37:29and
37:30we
37:30can
37:30only
37:30fight
37:30unitedly
37:31and
37:32I
37:32keep
37:32repeating
37:32this
37:32because
37:33it's
37:33important
37:33for
37:33everyone
37:34to
37:34understand
37:34that
37:35the
37:35Congress
37:35or
37:36the
37:36opposition
37:36has
37:37to
37:37come
37:37together
37:37and
37:38it's
37:38not
37:39about
37:39some
37:40magic
37:40formula
37:40it's
37:41about
37:41individuals
37:41who
37:43have
37:43some
37:43strength
37:43on
37:43the
37:44ground
37:44that
37:44they
37:44have
37:44to
37:44force
37:45their
37:45strength
37:45and
37:45move
37:46forward
37:47so
37:47I
37:47believe
37:48that
37:48whatever
37:48may be
37:48the
37:49ultimate
37:49decision
37:49that
37:50the
37:50party
37:50takes
37:50in
37:50different
37:51states
37:51whatever
37:51it
37:51might
37:52be
37:52one
37:52has
37:53to
37:53accumulate
37:53all
37:54of
37:54our
37:54strength
37:55and
37:55resources
37:55and
37:56pull
37:56them
37:56together
37:56and
37:57then
37:57move
37:57forward
37:58that
37:58is
37:58the
37:58only
37:58way
37:58we
37:59can
38:00defeat
38:00the
38:00BJP
38:01in
38:01states
38:01and
38:01the
38:02center
38:02well
38:03we
38:03wish
38:03you
38:03well
38:04and
38:04you
38:05know
38:05let's
38:06see
38:06if
38:06you
38:07can
38:14take
38:14the
38:15time
38:15out
38:15Mr
38:15pilot
38:16and
38:16joining
38:16us
38:16and
38:17you
38:17know
38:17we'll
38:18get
38:18back
38:18to
38:18you
38:18later
38:19when
38:19the
38:19time
38:20comes
38:20in
38:20terms
38:20of
38:20party
38:21positions
38:21and
38:21all
38:21because
38:22I
38:22know
38:22you're
38:22not
38:22going
38:22to
38:22give
38:22us
38:23any
38:23headlines
38:23on
38:24that
38:24either
38:24right
38:24now
38:25but
38:25thank
38:25you
38:25sir
38:26for
38:26taking
38:26the
38:26time
38:26out
38:26appreciate
38:27it