Jimmy 'MrBeast' Donaldson and his creative team join the show's winner Jeffrey Randall Allen for a discussion about the big-money competition series 'Beast Games' in a THR Q&A powered by Vision Media.
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00:00Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for joining us for this wonderful FYC conversation for
00:16Prime Video's groundbreaking beast games. I am Kara Warner, your moderator. Very excited
00:22to be here today. I contribute to Vanity Fair and the LA Times and like many of the millions
00:27of viewers was shocked and gobsmacked by what we saw in the first season of beast games.
00:34So I'm very excited to introduce this incredible panel who made it all happen. Please welcome
00:40your host, creator and executive producer, Jimmy, Mr. Beast Donaldson. Player 831 himself
00:48and winner of a lot. Just say the 10 million. Winner $10 million. Creator and executive
00:57producer, Sean Klitzner. Hi, Dan. Creator and editor, Mac Hopkins. Production designer extraordinaire,
01:07Steven Lenhart. Hello. And casting director, Katie Wallen. Hi. I'm so excited to get into this
01:16because can you start with the origin story? Kind of how, when you started thinking about
01:23this and then kind of how you assembled a group and brought together kind of the perfect people
01:27for this production? Yeah. So I'll hit the origin story and then Klitzner, you talk about the
01:32group. For the origin, honestly, I've always wanted to do what we do on YouTube, but bigger.
01:39Because with YouTube, you kind of have to, if we put a hundred people in a big circle and say,
01:44lastly, this big circle wins a million dollars and we upload that to YouTube, that's a one
01:4930, 40 minute video. And you have to build up all these people like character wise. And then by the
01:54end you have to eliminate them all and you have a winner. And it's a lot harder to tell a story
01:58and, uh, you know, and have arcs when it's just one single video. So, uh, it was honestly,
02:04we just had a desire to want to tell cool stories and, and build these contestants and do what we
02:09do, but bigger and better scale with the largest set of history, the largest cash prize. And so
02:14that was kind of the foundation of it. It's just wanting to do what we did on YouTube, but with
02:17better stories. Uh, I have no idea how Klitzner assembled this team. Well, yeah, it wasn't just me.
02:23We had some really good people who obviously got the, what we found to be the best in what we were
02:28trying to accomplish. So it's, it's not necessarily the best in the world, although I feel like
02:32everybody on this project was, Oh, Hey, be more specific. Who's not the best in the world.
02:36No, let's look at me. But no, the point is, is that when we created these YouTube videos,
02:44these are massive productions. And so, you know, it's always been viewed as, as a YouTube versus
02:50a traditional, but really it was a mentality that when you create something on a platform like YouTube,
02:56it's a different way you have to go about doing it. And we wanted to bring that to the more traditional
03:01space. So we did bring a bunch of people from that YouTube space and from our company over Mack
03:06Hopkins is one of them, but then we had to find people who thought the way we did in the ever
03:11changing, pivoting style of creating a content from scratch. And that's where you get somebody
03:16like Steven and Katie, because every aspect of what we do had to kind of fall into that.
03:21When it comes to Jeff, he's just one in a thousand, man.
03:24Right. Jeff, well, I have, I have specific questions for you for sure, but Steven and Katie,
03:30I wonder if you could kind of go into a little bit of your process. I mean, I just, I'm wondering,
03:36it seems like there were a lot of like groundbreaking firsts on this show for you in your careers.
03:41You've, you've been working in this business for a while, but can you talk a little bit about
03:45the challenges, like the joy of some of the challenges and then kind of what you're most happy
03:50to have executed or, you know, risks taken and all that?
03:54Look, the, when they came to us last year and just, and just laid out the basics, you know,
03:59we're going to, we're going to put a thousand people on trap doors and then that's going to
04:04go down to 500 people. And those 500 people need to move into the biggest reality TV living
04:09venue in history. It needs to be built from scratch and house 500 people. And by the way,
04:15we're doing it in like three months. Um, it, it, it was just absolutely over Raymond.
04:21Once in 10 days, let's be fair.
04:28Um, it, it was simultaneously the, you know, the most exciting challenge that I have ever
04:35and will likely ever get the chance to conquer. But, but also the, the fear of failure is something
04:41that, that, you know, most projects, you know, how to get to the finish line. There might be a
04:45little bit of a budget problem. There might be a delay. This, this was undertaking something that
04:50there was no blueprint for how to do because nobody had ever done it before.
04:53And so what, what an exciting and gratifying process that was to, you know, to work through
05:00it and say, well, this is my plan. And, and I don't know, I don't know who I can ask about
05:06whether it will work. I don't know. We're just going to kind of go for it and see how it's going
05:11and hope we make it. And we did, which was awesome.
05:14You have one, not to pick a favorite cause like a favorite child is a bad question, but
05:18is there, is there a set piece that you're most proud of? I just, I constantly was trying to think
05:23of the engineering behind some of the things and how quickly you maybe had to change things.
05:27I have, I do have a favorite child, but I can't tell you about that because my three daughters
05:34would be very upset, but I, but I don't know if it's easy to pick a favorite set from, from
05:40this season. Cause we got to do a shiny black floor game show set in the finale. We got to
05:46do the biggest reality living space in history, which was a combination of, of, you know, a giant
05:54stunt set, which were the towers plus a giant living reality set, which were the, all the
05:59houses and, and it had parks. It was, it was so fully flushed out. And then, you know, just
06:05the, the, the sheer scale and technology behind the, the episode one trap doors, it, it, they
06:11were all incredible. It was, it was like, honestly, it was four or five of my favorite shows I've
06:17ever worked for all on one show. And, and, you know, and it wasn't just me, uh, my design
06:24partner, Isabella Scannoni, who isn't here today. She, she and I collaborated on all of
06:28that stuff. And then there's thousands, literally thousands of people who helped us put it all
06:33together in that timeframe.
06:35Nice. Um, Katie, for you, how did you, how'd you wrap your mind around a thousand contestants?
06:42I, I mean, loosely kind of your selection process, I guess. And then talking about whether you
06:49got to root along the way for Jeff, or you had to wait and see it when it was all finished.
06:54Such great questions. I don't know if just my whole life, I'm relentlessly optimistic,
07:00but I was always like, we're going to do this. And it is part of what I do is taking strategic
07:07and entrepreneurial approaches to take people's creative and determine what is the best strategy
07:13to feel talent to a show like this. And we went in it with a mindset that we knew every
07:20day. And we were turning around at least 200 people. We talked to over a hundred thousand
07:27people in 12, probably 12 weeks. And we were turning around a certain amount of people and
07:33connecting and looking at tens of thousands of video. And like we do on every show, wanting
07:38to give everybody the same opportunity and, and really amazing experience. Not everybody
07:45is sitting in Jeff's chair right now, but we wanted everyone during the process to know
07:51that this was an amazing experience, even if they didn't make the show. So getting into it,
07:58I started to feel the challenges of the peer numbers and I've never in my career. And I've
08:05been doing this three decades and done a lot of shows ever probably work this hard, like
08:1324 seven in order to bring this to life. And I was just relentlessly perseverant. And to be
08:22honest, what inspired it was these guys and, and Jimmy who is so positive and has a lot of gratitude,
08:31but was so inspiring. And he was really the beast behind the motivation for me to do this. My son
08:38is a giant fan and he's also the reason that I'm doing this, but it was, it was fun also because meeting
08:47so many amazing people in so many different walks of life and knowing everyone could have the same
08:54opportunity and, and shot at it, um, was inspiring. So every day that we did this was inspiring,
09:01very challenging. And then at the end, being there and seeing a thousand people was incredibly rewarding.
09:09And then to see the connection and the experience, whether they won or went home. Um, and there's,
09:16they're, they're so positive and how it changed their life and talking to so many people now,
09:21it was a life changing experience. So with that said, um, it was, it was one of the greatest experiences
09:29in my career. And I'm so excited. And Jeff, I remember the day Danielle from my team said,
09:37I really want you to see this video. I just talked to, to Jeff Allen and I looked at the video and
09:43being a mom myself, I was like, this guy had such a heart and he's so courageous and being a parent is
09:51so challenging, but he was doing it for more than the money. He wanted to change his son's life.
09:58And we knew at that point that it was a game changer of why he wanted to do it and how important
10:06it was to have people like Jeff on the show because they were competing for something bigger than $5
10:11million. And Jeff, congratulations. And I did not know that I watched the show along. So to answer your
10:19second question, um, it was a really great moment for us at, at, at Mystic to, to see you win. And
10:27we're really proud of you. I'm really happy for you, Jeff. Yeah. Thank you so much. Yeah. Jeff,
10:32how, how, how are you? How's it going? Two, two, three months post, right? What's life like now?
10:39Yeah. Not even that. I think it's, um, a little under two months, two months since the finale came
10:44out and yeah, it's, um, I'll say life is very different, but also still the same. Um, you know,
10:52still, still dadding and kind of working out schedules, but kind of jet setting, um, with kind
10:58of trips to the East coast and LA to do interviews and podcasts and, um, you know, blessed for the
11:05world to talk about my son's condition and to raise awareness around it. And, um, it's, it was an
11:11absolute adventure of a lifetime. And I've said this before, like winning was the cherry on top.
11:15Like I got to talk about my son to the world. I just so happened to win $10 million too. Um, which
11:21allows me to do a lot of good with, um, a lot of good for not only for our family, but for kids like
11:26Lucas too.
11:27How'd you, what did you think going in? I mean, I I'm not sure how it was kind of the casting was posted,
11:32but had you ever done anything like this before? Um, as far as a game show, I've never done before,
11:39but this is, I think my wife and I, when we were dating, we filled out an application for amazing
11:44race and like, just didn't follow up. But this is the first time I ever like went through and talked
11:48to kind of a casting director. Uh, first time I've ever been on a show and then I show up and I'm
11:53clearly like in the top 10% oldest there. And I'm like, what am I, what am I doing here? Like I had, so I
12:00probably had three or four times in the first couple of challenges are like, what am I doing
12:04here? Like I am, I do not belong here. Um, and I was just fortunate to meet some amazing
12:09friends and kind of everything stood still, um, in the beast games. So it didn't matter if
12:15you were 20 or 60, like we were all the same age. Um, it didn't matter if you were a boy or
12:20a girl, it didn't matter. Nothing mattered. Like we were all on equal footing because there
12:23was no technology, there was no phones, there was no concept of time or even calendars. So like we were all
12:29all in it together. And if you built relationships and earn people's trust, you happen to go farther.
12:35And so I'm like, Oh my gosh, like I love asking people questions. I love getting to know people.
12:39And so for me, um, you know, those feelings of why am I here? What am I, what am I, what I get
12:44into slowly went away. I'm like, I do not want to leave. I want to keep staying and keep playing.
12:49I mean, it's just, it's such an insane watch, um, for Jimmy and Sean and Mac kind of being in the
12:55thick of it. What was it like just like being embedded and things happening so fast? And, and
13:01I'm just, I'm kind of curious about how long your filming days were and how often you had to kind
13:07of switch and adapt because things went other ways that you didn't expect.
13:11Yeah. I mean, how many days were we filming? Wasn't it like 35 days?
13:17Yeah. Yeah. It was over a month. Yeah. Over a month of filming. Um, I mean, a lot, those
13:24were some really long days because, uh, the thing is because it's not scripted, you don't
13:29really know how things are going to go. Um, you know, like hide and seek on the island.
13:33Like, you know, it could take five minutes. It could take hours or, um, other, uh, it's
13:39yeah. I don't know. Cause what do you think?
13:43Yeah. You know, the, uh, the inherent nature of what these games really is, is a world that
13:49we're going to create where we, we actually don't know what's going to happen next. For
13:53example, in episode two, we had four people up there and they all passed up on a million bucks.
13:58But the challenge actually was, if you take the money, you eliminate 62 and a half 62
14:03or 63 people. And so for us to sit here and go, well, we know what's going to happen.
14:07It affects the games coming up as well. And I think one of my favorite subtleties of the
14:13show is cause we're putting the viewer in the, in the, um, world that anything can happen.
14:19And that's what I felt was really the excitement day to day when we were on set is that the episode
14:25six physical mental chance where people chose chance. And there's a big wheel that has one
14:31of 16 numbers, zero of 16 as well. And the idea is if you spin it, that's how many people
14:38are going to be eliminated. So if you spin on zero or you spin on 16, you either aren't eliminating
14:44people or everybody's gone. And we had a whole challenge set up. And the idea that we really
14:49could have hit zero or 16 and not done the next challenge is the nature of if you really
14:54watch every single challenge has this world that we're living in that we're like, we don't
15:00know what's going to happen. And that's the feeling we had as we're going through day to
15:04day on the show of, you know, we would meet at night, we would meet first thing in the
15:08morning and we'd go, all right, well, here's how everything changed for the next X amount
15:12of days. And then after you get all that, you then have to pass it over to Mac who's on the
15:17editing side of things to go now tell this story that we didn't even know we can't plan
15:21for that. So now Mac has to go through and he and his team have to figure out what's the
15:26best story that we can tell that encapsulates what it was like to be on the set as a
15:31contestant or production or lighting or every aspect of it. So Mac, you want to talk to that?
15:38Yeah, 100%. And being a co-host on the show actually gave me some ability later in the
15:45editor and the edit to cut through the noise of the world's by technicality world's hardest
15:51edit ever attempted by mankind. More footage, like, you know, tens of thousands of hours of
15:57footage, hundreds of cameras. And to be honest, like just seeing it all go down on set every
16:04day, I kind of was able to have this sort of inner, you know, voice of how the whole plot
16:10was unfolding. And I had no idea that Jeff was going to win. And but I was I, you know,
16:17talk to Jeff, you know, from time to time, we talked to the contestants all the time. And one
16:21thing that was pretty interesting, I'm sure, Jeff, you can relate more about to this more
16:26than I can, but you would kind of become friends with people because we'd shoot for 12 hours.
16:30And, you know, the cameras will be rolling for maybe three of those, for example. And you would just, you would just talk to those, these contestants who are real people are really, you know,
16:38these contestants who are real people are really in this thing trying to win. And then all of a sudden they'd be gone because they got eliminated.
16:46And you're like, well, wait a second. Where am I? Where'd my buddy go? They're just and that was that's a pretty that must be a pretty insane feeling.
16:54And that wasn't the only insane feeling there was. There's all sorts of anxiety.
16:58I remember when I was standing up there on the top of Jimmy when there's four people, you know, like a press a button at any point and win one fifth of the money at that time that they thought was the grand prize.
17:07And none of them did it. I was baffled. I could not believe my I blew out my vocal cords from screaming because it was just such an unbelievable beat.
17:16And I remember there's this moment. It's actually an episode where I look to Jimmy and I and I just I was just in disbelief.
17:22I was like, how did this happen? Because it was not what we expected at all.
17:26And it's just it's things like that. The feelings that you get from situations like that, the feeling of loss when these people go home, because I don't you know, we don't have our phones.
17:35We're shooting. People get eliminated. They're gone. I can't talk to them anymore, at least until the show's over.
17:40And that's sad. And there's this just array of emotions that, you know, as the person being in charge of the edit, it's it's our responsibility to try to make those strings come through for the audience so they can feel what we felt as well.
17:54Because this could all get shot. We could break all these records. We can have the most cameras.
17:58But if we can't nail it in the edit, then it was all for nothing.
18:01And so the burden of, you know, being at the 99th yard is stressful.
18:05But it's also the most fun because I can we can bring out and highlight things that people said.
18:10And, you know, I Jeff was the I'm so glad that he was the guy that ended up winning this thing because his cause was so beautiful.
18:21And the way he articulated, you know, his son's condition was very helpful to for the audiences to understand that he just did a really great job doing that.
18:30And he had such a meaningful purpose to spend the money on.
18:33So all of it, just these emotions coming through in the edit is the you Mac.
18:38Just just one more little thing with you, because I don't think editing, especially on something like this is is appreciated because it's hard for those of us who don't do it to know what you actually accomplished.
18:46Can you kind of loosely just talk about how much footage because you had so many cameras?
18:51Yes.
18:52In those the the drops like I just wondering how you kind of loosely organized it to get to like a discernible or digestible.
19:00Sure.
19:01Well, when I tell people this, they usually are baffled.
19:04But I want you to just imagine in your head, you have ten thousand or OK, you have maybe between eight hundred and a thousand cameras rolling at once for days.
19:13And you have no idea who's going to win.
19:15And you have all this footage and all this.
19:18We can't focus the cameras on who's going to win because everyone has an equal chance of winning at this first episode.
19:25So there just is all the footage and the edit final product that everyone watches at home is actually in a way based on probability of what we find.
19:35And it's a lot of I'm watching.
19:37I'll put, you know, eight screens on camera at once and I'll watch it at 4x speed, which is like kind of an information overload.
19:44I'm just kind of like looking around.
19:45We're looking just for like emotive conflicts, just people saying one thing to one person emotions.
19:50And then we zoom in.
19:51We pull their laughs, figure out what they're saying.
19:53And that is how we find all the stuff that went in those big episodes like one.
19:57And I remember I said this in the last discussion, but it felt like NASA watching a rocket launch.
20:02We'd all jump up and cheer when we found like a meaningful line from someone who makes it far in the show.
20:07And just the probability, I mean, almost not calculable that number one and two in the show were standing right next to each other in episode one.
20:19But it's just like it does it like the I don't know what the probability of being alive is higher than that happening.
20:26It's just ridiculous.
20:27So, yeah, it's it is mainly probability.
20:32It's we have a lot of skilled editors and they do great.
20:36But a lot of it is probability would end up being actually one in nine hundred ninety nine.
20:40Whoever the winner actually one in four hundred and ninety eight because it could have been on either side, but it also could have been across.
20:45It's not as it's not as crazy as you would think the numbers.
20:51Well, no, what determined like who won through all the things that happened, like the guests that wanted.
20:56Yeah.
20:57You know, yeah.
20:58In my mind, maybe my math is one in five.
21:00But this is right.
21:02Do you have I would love to hear just a little bit more about kind of the relationships built because I got super attached to several of the contestants,
21:10especially as you get down to the wire there, Gage and Tawana for sure.
21:15Like, Jeff, are you are the relationships to still be had there?
21:19Are you are you friendly with these people?
21:20Are you still in touch with some of the other contestants?
21:22Of course.
21:23Yeah. No, I was just with Jeremy number nine nine one yesterday.
21:27Patrick nine thirty nine.
21:28He was in top ten.
21:29We talk probably too often.
21:31He calls me almost every day.
21:33Gage.
21:34I saw him a week or week and a half ago.
21:37Yeah.
21:38So it's this was probably one of the biggest surprise.
21:40Obviously, winning ten million dollars was a total surprise because we didn't think it was ten million until the last night.
21:46And that was just wild to have that coin flip like that was the coin flip was probably the most exciting part of the entire games for me.
21:54I just couldn't believe it.
21:56But the second most kind of the second thing I didn't expect from the games was the friendships forged like these are real friends.
22:04I've worked at companies where, you know, you're friends with people, then you leave companies and you're like, oh, you know, we'll keep in touch.
22:09And maybe you email Scott and every other year these friendships.
22:14I feel like there there's a handful of friendships that will be lasting, which is super surprising, but I'm very grateful for it.
22:20Did you I don't know, Jimmy, you are since you're familiar with some of these sums of money, did you have any advice for Jeff kind of moving forward?
22:29I did see that what huge positive is there were so many hits to the website that is the nonprofit that focuses on the disease your son has, which is incredible.
22:37I'm just wondering some of those kind of benchmarks, the advice you've gotten versus the people who.
22:42The only real advice I had for him was just make sure you pay the taxes, because if you go to jail, then I get in trouble.
22:48Oh, and she did. So are these will do.
22:51So besides that, yeah, I mean, I didn't hear about that.
22:54Tell me about the website visits on the nonprofit.
22:57Yeah, we it was up like 100 fold the week that the finale aired.
23:03I mean, and that's like and then we've had kind of think almost between a thousand two thousand new donors.
23:10You know, these are just people who are just on their own going to the website.
23:13So it's it's this is the biggest thing that like I won ten million dollars like I didn't expect people to kind of go, OK, this guy just won ten million dollars and I'm going to help them.
23:23But a lot of people kind of connected to the cause and understand as a parent or they might have a sibling with a rare disease and they wanted to kind of be a part of be part of the journey.
23:35And that's why so many people are kind of open up their hearts and donating or I've gotten so many DMS just from fellow dads.
23:43It just it gives me so much hope for for humanity, too.
23:48Yeah. Can you like loosely talk about kind of your hopes and dreams going forward now as far as progress with with potentially campaigns or kind of the research and all that jazz?
23:58Like obviously broad broad.
24:00It's only been two months, so I will give them some lead way.
24:03But yeah, I mean, what what are your I mean?
24:06Yeah, I mean, Karen, my ultimate aim is to to help find a treatment for my son and kids like him.
24:12And it's a it's a genetic disease. So it doesn't happen overnight. So many people like, hey, if you found the cure yet, we're working on it.
24:19And a lot of I've had a lot of new researchers actually reach out to me from prestigious universities saying, hey, I work on the protein side.
24:26Can I collaborate with some people on your side?
24:28So people are coming to help will certainly speed this up.
24:33And for me, I'm just going to continue to do things that help kind of bolster my platform to be able to tell Lucas's story.
24:39And so I need to take notes from people like Jimmy and Mac.
24:42Like, how do I how do I get better at YouTube and socials to be able to reach more people to tell Lucas's story and ultimately get more get more eyes on it and help more families and also get more dollars to fund more research.
24:55Yeah. I mean, again, it's such an incredible, incredible story and uplifting in so many ways.
25:00Anyways, as we sort of start to wind down the time here, can you all maybe talk about, again, not to pick a favorite, but some of kind of your most enjoyable reactions, like the feedback you've gotten from viewers or if it's just interactions you saw between contestants or something that you pulled off in the show that you cannot believe.
25:20I was very happy to hear, Jimmy, you at least refer to the amount of security you needed for the actual cash on this net.
25:26That was good. I'm like, I figure there's security. We just don't see it.
25:29But I'm just wondering kind of those fun little tidbits.
25:32I'll kick it off. I was I was a little surprised just how kind so many of the contestants were.
25:39You know, only one of them is winning the largest cash prize in history.
25:43And so I thought people would be more cutthroat when presented the opportunity, especially in certain instances where there wouldn't be repercussions.
25:50But yeah, for the most part, people were were very sympathetic.
25:55A lot more, I guess, emotion was shown than I thought, you know, because it would be easy to look at it pretty objectively.
26:03Like this is a competition show.
26:05My goal is to eliminate you so I can win, you know, goodbye.
26:09But even when people did eliminate other people, like they genuinely felt remorse and felt very sad.
26:15And it made me have hope for humanity.
26:18Just seeing the empathy that people had there, even though there are large sums of money on the line.
26:23I mean, Mac or Klitschner, what was your favorite moment you saw?
26:26Yeah, I'll just say really quick that I love and it happens multiple times a week, sometimes like multiple times a day where I hear a story of somebody who said that they watched it with their blank.
26:37And that blank is just so unusual, man.
26:40You know, I know when I, you know, big competition show, I love them all.
26:43And, you know, there's some shows my kids just, you know, they tune out.
26:47They want to do something else.
26:48But I'm just so, it's so awesome to hear that, you know, grandparents and their grandkids are connecting, you know, and, you know, grandma, what'd you think about this?
26:57That's crazy that a show can span something like that.
27:01And, you know, I'd be amiss if I said it wasn't surprising.
27:04It is, but it is a goal that we keep in the back of our head that we do want to bring people together to watch entertaining content.
27:11Like that's what we're, I mean, that's where the YouTube channel started is how do we get the most amount of people to watch?
27:17And it's not the most targeted.
27:19And the cooler thing is it's all around the world as well.
27:22You know, the show is localized and how many, like over 30 languages, I think, something like that.
27:27Or 40, whatever it is.
27:29And so it became like this global, I don't want to say phenomenon, but it is a global recognized show in its first year.
27:39And it's incredibly humbling to all of us.
27:41And, you know, it's funny, people ask, they're like, you must be like on cloud nine and you're seeing broken records and this.
27:46And I'm like, the team actually just wants to break it down and do it better if we get a shot to do it again.
27:52And that's so true to how we create content here.
27:55So it's humbling that we're even having this conversation.
27:58But it's really cool to see the reaction from across, you know, every span of demographic.
28:05And Sean, if you don't, I'll add real quick.
28:08Like the biggest piece of takeaway I get from families is go, we watched this every Thursday at seven o'clock where we watched it together every Friday at, you know, after school.
28:18And it was like a ritual thing where now you can stream, you can binge, you can watch online.
28:24It just reminded me of my family growing up watching the Cosby show or watching Seinfeld.
28:28You know, it's like a certain time.
28:30Do you miss it at eight o'clock on Thursday?
28:31You miss it.
28:32And so I just did a lot of parents, especially my age who have kids are like, this was the first time I've watched a series with my kid where we both are invested into it.
28:41And like that, kind of like what Sean said, like just, it just melted my heart.
28:46It was super cool.
28:48The most beautiful moment that I remember on set of filming this show was when Tawana comes up to Jeff after Jeff wins and they embrace again.
29:01And that is just like, I mean, it might as well be a movie.
29:04It was, it was beautiful.
29:07I remember I saw that with my own eyes.
29:09And I was just like, oh my gosh, this is like the emotions these two people are feeling right now.
29:12It's like, it's insane.
29:16But my grandma actually, my grandma who is, you know, in her 80s was heavily invested in this show.
29:23And she's never really been, I don't know if that's typically our main demographic.
29:27And so it is, it is cool to see that people of all ranges were invested in this kind of longer, longer form content.
29:36And to get the chance to do it again would be amazing.
29:38Nice.
29:39Steven and Katie, last, last words?
29:42Just, just piling on to what others have said, the, the crossover appeal of this has been really incredible.
29:47This is certainly the only show I've ever done that all of my children and my parents all watched all the episodes voluntarily.
29:53Like they, they all loved it, which that's, that's just not, not heard of.
29:58You know, it's, it's almost always not somebody's cup of tea.
30:01I'll say this.
30:03I want to first thank Jimmy and I believe passion leads you to your purpose period.
30:10And this is an opportunity and with Klitzner and just genius group of people.
30:17Teamwork really does make the dream work, but this touched everyone in so many ways.
30:22And I talked to a lot of the cast all the time and it was, it was life changing for them.
30:29And it, in a time where the world is, you know, unpredictable, the one thing I know about this is people could relate to it.
30:38It was a positive experience and we all can believe now that anything is possible because it is.
30:44And good work again, Jeff.
30:48Definitely within this format, anything is possible, at least from what I have now gleaned.
30:52Jimmy, do you want to take us home before I say goodbye to everyone?
30:57Thank you for taking the time to interview us and to anyone who was watching this, thank you for, for watching.
31:02We poured everything we had into Beast Games and yeah, I'm just very grateful you guys watched it.
31:06I hope to do this every year for the next 10 years.
31:09I'm very passionate about doing competition shows, building large sets and telling these stories.
31:14It's very fulfilling, very fun.
31:17And yeah, thank you for listening.
31:19Take care, everybody.
31:20Fingers crossed.
31:21Thanks so much for everyone tuning in.
31:22Beast Games now streaming Prime Video.