- 6/8/2025
Alexander Mercouris breaks down major geopolitical shifts: Moscow signals it may begin targeting Ukrainian leadership in Kiev, escalating its response following recent attacks. ๐ท๐บ Meanwhile, the U.S. appears to be distancing itself from Zelensky, showing frustration over Ukraineโs airbase strikes and quietly cooling on sanctions that once united the West. โ๏ธ A dramatic turn in the conflict narrative โ the cracks are starting to show.
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00:00:00Good day. Today is Saturday 7th June 2025. Today is my last day in Tbilisi, the capital of Georgia.
00:00:10Tomorrow I will be back in London and I expect to continue to be in London for at least the next couple of months.
00:00:18So you'll be seeing me again back in my old room, my library, with all its books and for at least, as I said,
00:00:28at least a couple of months. It's been an enormous pleasure and very insightful to be here in Georgia.
00:00:37I met wonderful people here. I've enjoyed the amazing food. I've enjoyed this amazing and extraordinary,
00:00:45very, very beautiful city and country. And I will have much more to say about it when I get back to London
00:00:52and have reviewed my thoughts properly and will be able to comment about it in further and greater detail.
00:01:00To repeat again, my overall sense of the city of Tbilisi and of Georgia is that the political situation here is stable
00:01:11and the economic situation is booming. This is a country that, in my opinion, has decisively turned the corner
00:01:20and is now with renewed self-confidence moving forward.
00:01:27This is not to say that there aren't problems. There are problems in any and every country.
00:01:33Georgia certainly has its share, but none that cannot be dealt with or overcome.
00:01:43And I suspect that in the present political mood, they almost certainly will be.
00:01:50Anyway, to repeat again, I will discuss the situation in Georgia in more detail in my next programmes.
00:01:58In the meantime, I'm going to return to the topic of Ukraine and I'm going to repeat again what I have said many times.
00:02:08There are many important things going on in the world.
00:02:11There is a crisis in the Middle East, a permanent, developing, escalating crisis in the Middle East,
00:02:19which might overtake in importance the conflict in Ukraine.
00:02:27There is an underlying conflict between the United States and China, which is becoming increasingly serious.
00:02:35But for the moment, at least, the conflict in Ukraine, which is gradually moving towards its conclusion,
00:02:43remains the major conflict in the world.
00:02:46It is the catalyst around which the entire international system is being restructured.
00:02:52I ought to say that my visit to Tbilisi has strongly confirmed that impression.
00:03:01So what has been going on over the last 24, 36 hours since my last programme?
00:03:07Well, I'm going to suggest that these have been critically important hours.
00:03:12And in fact, they confirm something which a number of people, Ray McGovern, for example, has hinted at or openly discussed,
00:03:25which is that whatever success it may have achieved in terms of physical destruction of Russian aircraft,
00:03:36and the more information I'm getting, the more confirmed I am becoming, that that destruction was very limited.
00:03:45But whatever material success the attack on the Russian airfields brought for Ukraine,
00:03:54it has been greatly outweighed by the extremely negative reaction to this operation,
00:04:00which we're starting to see develop in the United States.
00:04:05Now, the first thing to say is that one point I had not appreciated.
00:04:12It has been pointed out by several people to me in private emails.
00:04:18It has also been confirmed both by General Michael Flynn,
00:04:22the former chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency,
00:04:26and the man who in the first weeks of Donald Trump's first term was his national security advisor,
00:04:35and General Blaine Holt in an interview that he has given to American television,
00:04:43and which has been commented upon, by the way, by many, many people.
00:04:48Well, the point I missed is that the requirement to keep strategic bombers visible and parked on runways,
00:05:01airfield runways, is a requirement specifically set out in the START Treaty,
00:05:10which comes up for renewal in a few months.
00:05:14The strategic arms reduction treaty, the only remaining treaty in terms of arms limitation
00:05:24that continues to remain in force between Russia and the United States.
00:05:30And this has caused great dismay in Washington,
00:05:35because, as I said previously, there's been some discussion in the United States
00:05:41about seeking Russian agreement to at least extend the START Treaty.
00:05:47There is now great worry and real concern
00:05:52that the Ukrainians, taking advantage of the provision in the START Treaty,
00:05:58which required the Russians to keep their bombers
00:06:02in plain view on the airfields,
00:06:07that that might have scuppered any chance
00:06:10to renew or extend the START Treaty.
00:06:15The reason for this, the reason for this US concern,
00:06:20is firstly, that Russia, as I have pointed out in several programmes,
00:06:25is actually a bigger nuclear power overall than the United States itself is.
00:06:32It has ongoing programmes to build ballistic, intercontinental ballistic missiles,
00:06:39the Yars and the Sarmat, which are entering service.
00:06:45It has hypersonic glide vehicle warheads
00:06:52that are being deployed on Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles,
00:06:58like the Avant-Garde.
00:06:59It has an active programme to build nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines
00:07:05of the Borei class, capable of launching Bulaiva sea-launched ballistic missiles,
00:07:12with a range to hit targets in the United States.
00:07:17All of these weapons are more advanced and sophisticated
00:07:21than the analogous weapons that the United States possesses.
00:07:25And more importantly, the Russians currently have active programmes
00:07:30building all of these relatively modern or very modern weapons in quantity,
00:07:37whereas for the moment the United States does not.
00:07:41It does have development programmes for future weapons,
00:07:47but they have not yet reached the production stage.
00:07:51They are still firmly in the development stage,
00:07:55perhaps even the early development stage.
00:07:59Moreover, and contrary to what I said in a recent programme,
00:08:05it seems that the Russians do have advanced development
00:08:10of a new subsonic stealth intercontinental bomber.
00:08:17Now, I've received a lot of information about this from a particular source,
00:08:21who I'm not going to discuss,
00:08:23but this is somebody who is extremely well informed
00:08:27about Russian military developments.
00:08:30Whenever he's provided me with information of this kind,
00:08:34it has invariably turned out to be true.
00:08:37It seems that this bomber has now entered field testing.
00:08:42It is an extremely secret programme,
00:08:45which is why we do not know very much about it in the West,
00:08:49in open sources,
00:08:50though there is no doubt at all,
00:08:52I have no doubt at all,
00:08:54that the US intelligence community is aware of it.
00:08:57And it seems that this bomber,
00:09:00this stealth bomber,
00:09:01is scheduled for entry into production in 2027.
00:09:08So, the Russians are in a much better position
00:09:13to take advantage of any non-renewal of the START Treaty
00:09:19than the United States currently is.
00:09:23Of course, over time,
00:09:26the United States might be able to redress the balance.
00:09:31That was what used to sometimes happen during the Cold War.
00:09:36But now, of course,
00:09:38there is another major third-party actor on the stage,
00:09:44and that is China,
00:09:45which is also busy building its strategic nuclear arsenal.
00:09:52It is building more and more long-range missiles.
00:09:55It is starting to deploy ballistic missile submarines
00:09:59in quantity with sea-launched ballistic missiles.
00:10:04Supposedly, they are not as advanced
00:10:07as those of the United States or of Russia.
00:10:11But there is concern, apparently,
00:10:13in the United States,
00:10:15that the Chinese are increasingly able
00:10:18to access Russian submarine technology,
00:10:23one area where the Russians are in advance of the Chinese.
00:10:27And besides, I have no doubt
00:10:29that the Chinese have development programs of their own.
00:10:33The Chinese also have a stealth bomber
00:10:38under development
00:10:40and apparently about to enter production.
00:10:45And this program is better known and understood globally.
00:10:48And apparently, it is further advanced
00:10:54than the analogous Russian program is.
00:10:58Now, the key point is that for the moment,
00:11:02the United States is able to operate
00:11:07in a situation where Russia observes limits
00:11:13on development of its own strategic arsenal,
00:11:17allowing those American programs
00:11:19that I was talking about to proceed,
00:11:22enabling the United States,
00:11:24if and when the START treaty lapses,
00:11:27to begin production of these new systems.
00:11:31But China is not similarly bound.
00:11:35There is no treaty between the United States and China
00:11:41limiting development of Chinese nuclear weapons.
00:11:46Now, if the START treaty collapses
00:11:50at the end of this year,
00:11:53then the United States could find itself
00:11:55in an arms race
00:11:57against both Russia and China simultaneously
00:12:03at a time when both of these countries
00:12:05are further advanced
00:12:08in their development programs
00:12:10than is the United States itself.
00:12:14So it seems that the Americans
00:12:17are extremely unhappy
00:12:19about this attack
00:12:21that happened on the Russian air bases
00:12:25because they're alarmed
00:12:27at the implications for the START treaty.
00:12:30They're also alarmed
00:12:32by the fact that the Russians,
00:12:34as I have discussed in several programs now,
00:12:37both on this channel
00:12:38and on the Duran,
00:12:40appear to believe
00:12:41that the United States
00:12:42is deeply implicated in these attacks.
00:12:44In other words,
00:12:46that the United States
00:12:47violated in spirit,
00:12:50if not in letter,
00:12:52the START treaty
00:12:53by facilitating an attack
00:12:57on Russia's strategic bomber force,
00:13:00taking advantage
00:13:03of the provisions
00:13:05of the START treaty,
00:13:07which the United States
00:13:08had itself negotiated
00:13:11with the United States,
00:13:13with Russia.
00:13:14So there is growing alarm
00:13:18and anger
00:13:19in the United States
00:13:21as the full implications of this
00:13:23are coming to be understood.
00:13:25I think it is becoming increasingly clear
00:13:28that some top officials
00:13:30in the Pentagon, at least,
00:13:33were not aware
00:13:34that the Ukrainians
00:13:36were planning this operation.
00:13:39And, of course,
00:13:39Donald Trump,
00:13:40regardless of what he knew
00:13:42or didn't know,
00:13:44is now going out of his way
00:13:45to insist
00:13:46that he was not aware
00:13:47of this Ukrainian operation
00:13:49either.
00:13:50Now, the problem is
00:13:52that the Russian suspicion
00:13:54that the Americans
00:13:56at least had some knowledge
00:13:57of this operation
00:13:59is almost certainly true.
00:14:01The Ukrainians have said
00:14:02that it was being planned
00:14:04for 18 months.
00:14:06The United States
00:14:07has a massive presence
00:14:09in Kiev.
00:14:11It has its officials
00:14:12in every branch
00:14:14of Ukraine's
00:14:16sprawling intelligence apparatus.
00:14:18It is inconceivable to me
00:14:21that the Ukrainians
00:14:22could be planning
00:14:22an operation of this kind
00:14:24without somebody
00:14:25in the United States
00:14:26knowing about it
00:14:28and approving it.
00:14:29But there is a further factor
00:14:31to take into account,
00:14:33which is that
00:14:34an attack of this kind
00:14:35almost certainly
00:14:37does depend
00:14:38on at least
00:14:38some degree
00:14:40of satellite intelligence,
00:14:42up-to-date
00:14:43satellite intelligence
00:14:45being provided
00:14:46to Ukraine
00:14:47to enable
00:14:48the Ukrainians
00:14:49to manoeuvre
00:14:50their containers.
00:14:53The containers
00:14:53were the drones
00:14:54that carried out
00:14:55the attack
00:14:56to the correct positions
00:14:58around the correct
00:15:00airfields.
00:15:02Now,
00:15:03the problem
00:15:04with that
00:15:05is that
00:15:06despite
00:15:07various claims,
00:15:09it is extremely
00:15:11unlikely
00:15:12indeed
00:15:13that other
00:15:14NATO countries
00:15:15possess the degree
00:15:16of satellite coverage
00:15:18to enable
00:15:19the Ukrainians
00:15:20to do that
00:15:21other than
00:15:22the United States
00:15:23itself.
00:15:24It could be
00:15:26that the
00:15:27United States
00:15:28has been
00:15:29providing
00:15:30information
00:15:31to some
00:15:32of its
00:15:32NATO allies,
00:15:34Britain,
00:15:35for example,
00:15:36about
00:15:38the positioning
00:15:39of Russian
00:15:40bombers
00:15:41and the
00:15:42British
00:15:43have in turn
00:15:44been providing
00:15:46that information
00:15:47to Ukraine.
00:15:48If that is the
00:15:49case,
00:15:49it would not
00:15:50surprise me
00:15:51at all.
00:15:52During a brief
00:15:53period when
00:15:54Donald Trump
00:15:55interrupted
00:15:57intelligence
00:15:58sharing
00:15:59between the
00:15:59United States
00:16:00and Ukraine,
00:16:02I remember
00:16:04that there
00:16:05were discussions
00:16:06in the
00:16:07British media
00:16:07about doing
00:16:08that very
00:16:09thing,
00:16:10in effect,
00:16:11laundering
00:16:12intelligence
00:16:13provided to
00:16:15Britain by
00:16:15the United
00:16:16States
00:16:16and then
00:16:17supplying it
00:16:18to Ukraine
00:16:19so that it
00:16:20would not
00:16:21seem as if
00:16:22it was the
00:16:22United States
00:16:23itself
00:16:24that was
00:16:25directly
00:16:25supplying
00:16:26that
00:16:27intelligence.
00:16:28The Russians,
00:16:29of course,
00:16:30are not going
00:16:30to be fooled
00:16:31by any
00:16:32of that.
00:16:34The Americans
00:16:34probably would
00:16:36not be fooled
00:16:36by any
00:16:37of that
00:16:38either.
00:16:39Now,
00:16:40here,
00:16:41I want to
00:16:42make clear
00:16:42that far
00:16:43from everybody
00:16:44in the
00:16:45United States
00:16:45is unhappy
00:16:47or upset
00:16:48by this
00:16:49Ukrainian
00:16:50operation.
00:16:51Ukraine
00:16:52still has
00:16:52many supporters
00:16:53in Washington,
00:16:55in the
00:16:55intelligence
00:16:55community,
00:16:57in the
00:16:57Pentagon,
00:16:58in the
00:16:58State
00:16:59Department,
00:16:59in other
00:17:00sections of
00:17:01the
00:17:01Permanent
00:17:01Bureaucracy
00:17:02and no
00:17:03doubt amongst
00:17:04the officials
00:17:05of the
00:17:06administration
00:17:06itself.
00:17:09But
00:17:10enough
00:17:11people in
00:17:12Washington
00:17:13are concerned
00:17:15and angry
00:17:16about what
00:17:17happened
00:17:18to cause
00:17:19at least
00:17:21a temporary
00:17:22shift
00:17:22in the
00:17:24mood in
00:17:25Washington,
00:17:26one that
00:17:27has been
00:17:28that has
00:17:30gone
00:17:30against
00:17:32Ukraine.
00:17:33And we
00:17:33see this
00:17:34reflected in
00:17:36the various
00:17:36comments of
00:17:37President Trump
00:17:38himself and
00:17:40of his
00:17:40officials.
00:17:41If we come
00:17:42back to
00:17:42Trump,
00:17:43he has
00:17:43spoken about
00:17:45how the
00:17:45bone-crushing
00:17:48sanctions
00:17:49that were
00:17:50proposed
00:17:51by
00:17:53Lindsey
00:17:54Graham
00:17:54are too
00:17:56tough.
00:17:57He's also
00:17:59made comments
00:18:00about the
00:18:01fact that he
00:18:01considers that
00:18:03the Ukrainian
00:18:03attack on the
00:18:04airbases,
00:18:05the Russian
00:18:06airbases,
00:18:07would enable
00:18:10the Russians
00:18:10to carry out
00:18:12their own
00:18:12strikes,
00:18:13justified the
00:18:14Russians in
00:18:14carrying their
00:18:15own retaliatory
00:18:16strikes against
00:18:18Ukraine,
00:18:20something which
00:18:21Trump said he
00:18:22was extremely
00:18:23unhappy about,
00:18:25which is
00:18:25close to
00:18:26Trump
00:18:26saying
00:18:30that the
00:18:31Ukrainians
00:18:32are responsible
00:18:34for any
00:18:35future strikes
00:18:36that the
00:18:37Russians make
00:18:38against them,
00:18:40that the
00:18:41Ukrainians have
00:18:42brought these
00:18:43strikes upon
00:18:44themselves,
00:18:45a very
00:18:47significant
00:18:47change in
00:18:49rhetoric,
00:18:50including from
00:18:51Donald Trump
00:18:52himself,
00:18:53just saying,
00:18:55but that's the
00:18:56most interesting
00:18:56sign,
00:18:58indicator,
00:18:59that things
00:19:00are changing,
00:19:01is that for
00:19:02the first time,
00:19:04according to the
00:19:04Wall Street
00:19:05Journal,
00:19:06there are now
00:19:07comments,
00:19:09apparently,
00:19:09there's now
00:19:10some element
00:19:11of pushback
00:19:12by the
00:19:13administration
00:19:14against
00:19:15Lindsey Graham
00:19:15and some
00:19:17attempt to
00:19:17try to get
00:19:18Lindsey Graham
00:19:20himself and
00:19:22the Republican
00:19:23senators in
00:19:25the Senate to
00:19:26pull back
00:19:26from the
00:19:28sanctions bill
00:19:29that they have
00:19:30been discussing
00:19:32and thinking
00:19:33about.
00:19:34According to
00:19:35the Wall Street
00:19:35Journal,
00:19:37members of
00:19:38the White
00:19:39House,
00:19:39officials of
00:19:40the White
00:19:40House,
00:19:41have been in
00:19:42what is called
00:19:42informal contact
00:19:44with Lindsey
00:19:45Graham.
00:19:45I wonder what
00:19:46the word
00:19:46informal contact
00:19:48means, by the
00:19:48way.
00:19:49I mean, what
00:19:50does it mean
00:19:50exactly?
00:19:51I mean, are
00:19:52they speaking
00:19:53to him on
00:19:54the telephone,
00:19:55or are they
00:19:56sending him
00:19:56emails as
00:19:57opposed to
00:19:58meeting him,
00:19:59or is it
00:20:00that he's not
00:20:01meeting Donald
00:20:02Trump himself?
00:20:04Anyway, I'm
00:20:05not going to
00:20:06worry about
00:20:07that.
00:20:07But anyway,
00:20:08it seems that
00:20:08they are in
00:20:09touch with
00:20:10Lindsey Graham
00:20:11and they're
00:20:11telling him
00:20:12that, look,
00:20:12this really
00:20:13isn't a good
00:20:14idea.
00:20:15The time has
00:20:15come for you
00:20:16to actually
00:20:17water down
00:20:17your sanctions.
00:20:19They're
00:20:19suggesting,
00:20:20apparently,
00:20:21that instead
00:20:21of the
00:20:22sanctions being
00:20:23made mandatory
00:20:24on the
00:20:25president,
00:20:26if the
00:20:28legislation
00:20:29is enacted,
00:20:31they should
00:20:32be made
00:20:32optional,
00:20:34that the
00:20:34president can
00:20:35impose
00:20:36500%
00:20:38tariffs on
00:20:39countries like
00:20:40China and
00:20:41India if
00:20:43they decide
00:20:46to go on
00:20:46importing
00:20:47Russian energy
00:20:49products,
00:20:50as opposed
00:20:51to the
00:20:53sanctions
00:20:55being
00:20:58automatically
00:20:59in effect,
00:21:02whether the
00:21:03president wants
00:21:04them to
00:21:05come into
00:21:05effect or
00:21:07not.
00:21:08And apparently
00:21:08these people
00:21:09who are
00:21:10informally
00:21:12talking to
00:21:14Lindsey Graham
00:21:15are saying
00:21:16something that,
00:21:17by the way,
00:21:17Alex Christoforo
00:21:18and I have
00:21:19been talking
00:21:20about in a
00:21:21recent programme
00:21:22which we did
00:21:23on the
00:21:23Duran,
00:21:24which is that
00:21:25it is the
00:21:25president of
00:21:26the United
00:21:26States who
00:21:27makes foreign
00:21:28policy and
00:21:28who makes
00:21:29foreign policy
00:21:30decisions,
00:21:31and it
00:21:32really isn't
00:21:32proper or
00:21:33appropriate for
00:21:34Congress to
00:21:36tie down his
00:21:37hands by
00:21:38passing a
00:21:38sanctions bill
00:21:39like the
00:21:40one that
00:21:40Lindsey Graham
00:21:41is proposing
00:21:42which will
00:21:44force
00:21:46sanctions
00:21:47to be
00:21:49imposed,
00:21:50in practice
00:21:51tariffs to
00:21:53be imposed
00:21:54against
00:21:55China and
00:21:57India,
00:21:58regardless of
00:21:59whether the
00:21:59president supports
00:22:01that or
00:22:01not.
00:22:02For the
00:22:03record, I
00:22:04think this
00:22:05point is
00:22:05absolutely
00:22:06valid.
00:22:07I think
00:22:07this bone
00:22:09crushing
00:22:10sanctions
00:22:10bill in
00:22:12its existing
00:22:13form almost
00:22:14certainly does
00:22:16encroach upon
00:22:17the president's
00:22:19constitutional
00:22:20prerogatives.
00:22:21I thought the
00:22:22same, by the
00:22:23way, about
00:22:23the CAATSA
00:22:24bill, the
00:22:25Combating
00:22:26American Enemies
00:22:28Act, or
00:22:28whatever it was
00:22:28called, that
00:22:29was passed
00:22:30during Donald
00:22:31Trump's first
00:22:31term, which
00:22:33he signed
00:22:33into law
00:22:34but made
00:22:35clear that
00:22:35he objected
00:22:37to.
00:22:38I think that
00:22:39quite plausibly
00:22:40at some
00:22:41point, if
00:22:42Lindsey Graham's
00:22:43bill is
00:22:45brought into
00:22:45a law in
00:22:46its existing
00:22:47form, it
00:22:48and CAATSA
00:22:49will go to
00:22:51the Supreme
00:22:51Court of the
00:22:52United States,
00:22:53and I would
00:22:54not be in the
00:22:55least bit
00:22:55surprised if
00:22:57the Supreme
00:22:57Court were
00:22:58to decide
00:22:59that these
00:22:59bills, these
00:23:00acts, were
00:23:01actually
00:23:02unconstitutional
00:23:03because they
00:23:04were restricting
00:23:05the president's
00:23:06ability to
00:23:07conduct the
00:23:08foreign policy
00:23:08of the United
00:23:10States.
00:23:10Just saying.
00:23:12But anyway,
00:23:13probably it
00:23:15won't come to
00:23:16that.
00:23:17I suspect
00:23:17that if
00:23:19Republican
00:23:20senators start
00:23:21to get wind
00:23:21of the fact
00:23:22that Donald
00:23:23Trump is
00:23:24not happy
00:23:24with his
00:23:25sanctions
00:23:25bill, they
00:23:26too will
00:23:27start to
00:23:27turn up at
00:23:28Lindsey Graham's
00:23:29door and
00:23:30will tell him
00:23:30that he's got
00:23:31to water
00:23:31down the
00:23:31sanctions,
00:23:32that the
00:23:33sanctions go
00:23:33too far,
00:23:35that the
00:23:36president almost
00:23:38certainly is
00:23:39right, and
00:23:40that of course
00:23:41the president
00:23:41has the
00:23:42ability to
00:23:44stop the
00:23:45bill anyway
00:23:46in its
00:23:46tracks by
00:23:48getting the
00:23:49Speaker of the
00:23:50House,
00:23:50Speaker Johnson
00:23:52to refuse to
00:23:53put it to
00:23:54the House,
00:23:55which will
00:23:55in effect
00:23:56kill the
00:23:56bill.
00:23:57So I
00:23:58think that
00:23:58they will
00:23:59tell Lindsey
00:23:59Graham to
00:24:00agree to
00:24:01what Trump
00:24:02is asking
00:24:03for, in
00:24:05which case
00:24:06we will
00:24:07get a
00:24:08bill which
00:24:10does nothing
00:24:10more than
00:24:12what presidents
00:24:13of the United
00:24:13States have
00:24:15already been
00:24:16doing.
00:24:17Presidents
00:24:17of the United
00:24:18States have
00:24:20been able
00:24:20to impose
00:24:22sanctions on
00:24:23countries by
00:24:24executive order.
00:24:26Presidents
00:24:27like Donald
00:24:28Trump, or
00:24:28at least this
00:24:29president,
00:24:29Donald Trump,
00:24:30has imposed
00:24:31tariffs on
00:24:33various countries
00:24:34by executive
00:24:35order.
00:24:37This will
00:24:37simply be
00:24:38another bill
00:24:39which confirms
00:24:40that he has
00:24:41those powers.
00:24:42It will not
00:24:43add anything
00:24:44to the
00:24:45existing powers
00:24:46that the
00:24:47president
00:24:47already
00:24:48possesses
00:24:49or claims.
00:24:51Anyway,
00:24:52that's how
00:24:53it seems
00:24:54to me.
00:24:54The key
00:24:55thing is
00:24:55that Donald
00:24:57Trump
00:24:57apparently
00:24:58is capitalized.
00:25:01I don't think
00:25:01he's ever
00:25:02been keen
00:25:02on this bill
00:25:03at all,
00:25:04but he's
00:25:05capitalizing
00:25:06on the
00:25:07alarm
00:25:07that
00:25:09has been
00:25:10caused
00:25:11in the
00:25:12United
00:25:12States
00:25:13by this
00:25:14attack
00:25:15on the
00:25:16Russian
00:25:16airfields
00:25:17in order
00:25:18to
00:25:18probably
00:25:21either
00:25:22kill
00:25:23or
00:25:24neuter
00:25:25this
00:25:26Lindsey Graham
00:25:27sanctions
00:25:28bill
00:25:29which
00:25:30Donald
00:25:31Trump
00:25:31isn't
00:25:33keen
00:25:33on having
00:25:35brought
00:25:35into law
00:25:36but has
00:25:38for some
00:25:39unaccountable
00:25:40reason
00:25:40been
00:25:41reluctant
00:25:42to
00:25:43openly
00:25:44oppose.
00:25:45Now,
00:25:46I say
00:25:46all of
00:25:46this,
00:25:47of course,
00:25:48the situation
00:25:48in Washington
00:25:50can change
00:25:50from one
00:25:51day to
00:25:52the next,
00:25:53from one
00:25:53hour to
00:25:54the next.
00:25:55It could
00:25:55be that
00:25:55something
00:25:56will happen
00:25:56over the
00:25:57next couple
00:25:58of hours
00:25:58which will
00:25:59cause
00:25:59the whole
00:26:00situation
00:26:00to change
00:26:01again
00:26:01and we
00:26:02might
00:26:03indeed
00:26:03get
00:26:03Lindsey
00:26:05Graham's
00:26:06bone
00:26:08crunching
00:26:09sanctions
00:26:09bill
00:26:10through
00:26:10Congress
00:26:10and signed
00:26:11into law
00:26:12by the
00:26:12President
00:26:13and the
00:26:13500%
00:26:14tariffs
00:26:15imposed
00:26:16on China
00:26:16and India
00:26:17by the
00:26:18way
00:26:18and
00:26:19probably
00:26:20Turkey
00:26:21too.
00:26:22It will
00:26:23be very
00:26:23interesting
00:26:23to see
00:26:24what the
00:26:24economic
00:26:25consequences
00:26:26of that
00:26:26will be
00:26:27on the
00:26:27United
00:26:28States
00:26:29itself
00:26:30just
00:26:30saying
00:26:31the
00:26:32head
00:26:33of the
00:26:34industrialists
00:26:35union
00:26:36in Russia
00:26:37Alexander
00:26:37Shorhin
00:26:38who is
00:26:40the head
00:26:41of what
00:26:41is effectively
00:26:43Russia's
00:26:44biggest
00:26:44employers
00:26:45organization.
00:26:47He's
00:26:48actually come
00:26:48out and
00:26:49made some
00:26:49comments
00:26:49about what
00:26:50might happen
00:26:51if this
00:26:51bill were
00:26:52brought into
00:26:53effect
00:26:53and if
00:26:55sanctions
00:26:56like that
00:26:56really were
00:26:58imposed
00:26:58and were
00:27:00effective
00:27:01in other
00:27:02words
00:27:02China
00:27:03and India
00:27:04did indeed
00:27:05decide
00:27:05that they
00:27:06would no
00:27:06longer
00:27:07continue
00:27:07to import
00:27:08Russian
00:27:09oil
00:27:09and gas
00:27:10something
00:27:11which I
00:27:12don't for
00:27:12a moment
00:27:12believe
00:27:13but
00:27:14Shorhin
00:27:14appears
00:27:16to think
00:27:16that in
00:27:18spite of
00:27:19that
00:27:19and
00:27:20regardless
00:27:21of that
00:27:22after
00:27:23a short
00:27:25period
00:27:25of
00:27:26volatility
00:27:27the
00:27:29situation
00:27:29in the
00:27:30Russian
00:27:30economy
00:27:30would
00:27:31stabilize
00:27:31and that
00:27:33Russia
00:27:33would be
00:27:33able to
00:27:34resume
00:27:34growth
00:27:35and would
00:27:36achieve
00:27:362%
00:27:37growth
00:27:38within the
00:27:39next year
00:27:40or so
00:27:40and then
00:27:41start to
00:27:42see its
00:27:42growth
00:27:42increase
00:27:43thereafter
00:27:44beyond
00:27:45that
00:27:46just saying
00:27:47and that
00:27:48does appear
00:27:49to be the
00:27:49mood
00:27:50in Moscow
00:27:51Shorhin
00:27:52had a lot
00:27:52more to
00:27:52say
00:27:53incidentally
00:27:53he was
00:27:53making
00:27:55his
00:27:55comments
00:27:55on the
00:27:57eve of
00:27:57an
00:27:57interest
00:27:58rate
00:27:58decision
00:27:59in
00:27:59Moscow
00:28:00which
00:28:00I'm
00:28:00going
00:28:00to
00:28:01come
00:28:01to
00:28:01shortly
00:28:01in
00:28:02this
00:28:02programme
00:28:02and I
00:28:03will
00:28:04return
00:28:04to him
00:28:04later
00:28:05in
00:28:06this
00:28:06programme
00:28:07but
00:28:07anyway
00:28:08it is
00:28:08possible
00:28:09that
00:28:10despite
00:28:10these
00:28:11latest
00:28:11moves
00:28:12being
00:28:12made
00:28:12by the
00:28:13White
00:28:13House
00:28:13to
00:28:14either
00:28:14kill
00:28:15or
00:28:16neuter
00:28:16Lindsey
00:28:17Graham's
00:28:17bill
00:28:18that it
00:28:19might still
00:28:20come into
00:28:21law
00:28:21in its
00:28:22existing
00:28:22form
00:28:23it
00:28:24might
00:28:24be
00:28:25that
00:28:25as I
00:28:25said
00:28:25the
00:28:26Russians
00:28:26do
00:28:26something
00:28:27that
00:28:27changes
00:28:28the
00:28:28entire
00:28:28situation
00:28:29in
00:28:31Washington
00:28:32again
00:28:33who knows
00:28:34but
00:28:35that
00:28:36at least
00:28:37for the
00:28:37moment
00:28:38does
00:28:38appear to
00:28:39be the
00:28:39decision
00:28:39the
00:28:40situation
00:28:41it
00:28:41seems
00:28:42as I
00:28:42said
00:28:42that the
00:28:43Americans
00:28:44or at
00:28:45least
00:28:45some
00:28:46people
00:28:46in the
00:28:47United
00:28:47States
00:28:48some
00:28:48of the
00:28:49more
00:28:49important
00:28:49people
00:28:50in the
00:28:51United
00:28:51States
00:28:51have
00:28:52indeed
00:28:53been
00:28:53angered
00:28:54by this
00:28:55decision
00:28:56that the
00:28:57Ukrainians
00:28:57took
00:28:58in
00:29:00launching
00:29:00these
00:29:00attacks
00:29:01on the
00:29:02Russian
00:29:02airfields
00:29:04now
00:29:04here
00:29:05I ought
00:29:07to say
00:29:07something
00:29:07about
00:29:08the
00:29:09Ukrainian
00:29:09reaction
00:29:10to all
00:29:10these
00:29:11pressures
00:29:13and
00:29:14alarms
00:29:15and
00:29:15concerns
00:29:16firstly
00:29:17the
00:29:17Ukrainians
00:29:18continue
00:29:18to
00:29:19insist
00:29:19that
00:29:20so
00:29:20long
00:29:20as
00:29:20the
00:29:20war
00:29:21against
00:29:21them
00:29:21continues
00:29:22they
00:29:23will
00:29:23strike
00:29:23the
00:29:23Russian
00:29:24military
00:29:24anywhere
00:29:25and
00:29:25anywhere
00:29:26that
00:29:26they
00:29:26can
00:29:27they
00:29:28don't
00:29:28care
00:29:28about
00:29:30START
00:29:30treaties
00:29:31about
00:29:31the
00:29:32relationship
00:29:32between
00:29:33the
00:29:33United
00:29:33States
00:29:34and
00:29:34Russia
00:29:34about
00:29:36the
00:29:36nuclear
00:29:38balance
00:29:39these
00:29:40things
00:29:41are
00:29:42of
00:29:43no
00:29:43interest
00:29:44to
00:29:45them
00:29:45well
00:29:46up
00:29:47to
00:29:47a
00:29:47certain
00:29:48point
00:29:48you
00:29:49can
00:29:50understand
00:29:50that
00:29:51but
00:29:52the
00:29:52fact
00:29:52that
00:29:52the
00:29:52Ukrainians
00:29:53are
00:29:53making
00:29:54comments
00:29:55like
00:29:55this
00:29:55ought
00:29:56to
00:29:57again
00:29:58underline
00:30:00for
00:30:01policy
00:30:01makers
00:30:02in the
00:30:02United
00:30:03States
00:30:03what
00:30:05an
00:30:05impossible
00:30:06ally
00:30:08or
00:30:09proxy
00:30:10the
00:30:10United
00:30:11States
00:30:11has
00:30:12adopted
00:30:12in
00:30:13the
00:30:13form
00:30:14of
00:30:14Ukraine
00:30:15Ukraine
00:30:16incessantly
00:30:18demands
00:30:19unending
00:30:20flows
00:30:21of
00:30:22American
00:30:22weapons
00:30:23unending
00:30:25flows
00:30:26of
00:30:26American
00:30:27money
00:30:27it
00:30:28demands
00:30:29more and
00:30:29more
00:30:30sanctions
00:30:30on
00:30:31Russia
00:30:31from the
00:30:32United
00:30:32States
00:30:33it
00:30:34supports
00:30:34tariffs
00:30:35imposed
00:30:36by the
00:30:36United
00:30:36States
00:30:37on
00:30:38countries
00:30:38like
00:30:39China
00:30:40which
00:30:41trade
00:30:41with
00:30:42Russia
00:30:42it
00:30:43never
00:30:44in
00:30:44any
00:30:45way
00:30:45reduces
00:30:46its
00:30:47demands
00:30:48on
00:30:49the
00:30:49United
00:30:49States
00:30:50but
00:30:51it
00:30:52pays
00:30:53no
00:30:54heed
00:30:54at
00:30:55all
00:30:55to
00:30:56Russia
00:30:56to
00:30:57America's
00:30:58to the
00:30:58United
00:30:58States
00:30:59greater
00:31:00geostrategic
00:31:02interests
00:31:03or security
00:31:05concerns
00:31:06now I
00:31:07have spoken
00:31:08about this
00:31:08many
00:31:09many times
00:31:10but it
00:31:11has always
00:31:12seen to me
00:31:13that this
00:31:13is an
00:31:13incredibly
00:31:14unbalanced
00:31:15relationship
00:31:16one in which
00:31:18the tail
00:31:18clearly
00:31:19wags
00:31:20the dog
00:31:21and
00:31:22it
00:31:23has
00:31:23always
00:31:24astonished
00:31:25me
00:31:25that so
00:31:26many
00:31:27people
00:31:27in the
00:31:27United
00:31:28States
00:31:28and
00:31:29by the
00:31:30way
00:31:30the
00:31:31entirety
00:31:32of the
00:31:33Biden
00:31:33administration
00:31:34seems
00:31:35to be
00:31:36so willing
00:31:37to go
00:31:38along
00:31:38with it
00:31:39now
00:31:39according
00:31:40to media
00:31:40reports
00:31:41Donald
00:31:42Trump
00:31:42himself
00:31:43has a
00:31:45different
00:31:45perspective
00:31:46he sees
00:31:48Ukraine
00:31:48as a
00:31:49problem
00:31:49he doesn't
00:31:50much like
00:31:51President
00:31:51Zelensky
00:31:52he remains
00:31:53keen to
00:31:54improve
00:31:54relations
00:31:55with
00:31:56Russia
00:31:56he sees
00:31:57trade
00:31:58as more
00:31:59important
00:31:59for the
00:31:59United
00:32:00States
00:32:00than this
00:32:01complex
00:32:02geopolitical
00:32:04conflict
00:32:05that is
00:32:05playing out
00:32:06in Ukraine
00:32:07he has
00:32:09an entirely
00:32:09different
00:32:10view
00:32:10and an
00:32:11entirely
00:32:11different
00:32:12perspective
00:32:12but
00:32:14assuming
00:32:15that that
00:32:16is correct
00:32:16it remains
00:32:18astonishing
00:32:18to me
00:32:19that there
00:32:20are so
00:32:20many people
00:32:21in
00:32:21Washington
00:32:22who continue
00:32:23to think
00:32:24otherwise
00:32:24who are
00:32:25happy to
00:32:26go along
00:32:26and indeed
00:32:27probably
00:32:28materially
00:32:28assist
00:32:29the
00:32:29Ukrainians
00:32:30with these
00:32:31madcap
00:32:32plans
00:32:33plans which
00:32:34to repeat
00:32:34again
00:32:34have done
00:32:35a limited
00:32:36amount of
00:32:37damage
00:32:37to Russia's
00:32:38strategic
00:32:39bombing
00:32:40forces
00:32:40but nowhere
00:32:41near as much
00:32:42damage
00:32:42as was
00:32:43initially
00:32:43reported
00:32:44but
00:32:46attacks
00:32:47which
00:32:47as I
00:32:48said
00:32:48could
00:32:49conceivably
00:32:49impact
00:32:50on
00:32:51America's
00:32:52own
00:32:52vital
00:32:53interests
00:32:54and they
00:32:55don't seem
00:32:56to care
00:32:56about that
00:32:57defeating
00:32:58Russia
00:32:58something
00:32:59which
00:32:59everybody
00:33:00now
00:33:00basically
00:33:02acknowledges
00:33:03is impossible
00:33:04continues
00:33:05to be
00:33:06something
00:33:07that they
00:33:07remain
00:33:08committed
00:33:08to
00:33:09even
00:33:10despite
00:33:11all the
00:33:12incredible
00:33:13risks
00:33:14that that
00:33:15brings in
00:33:15its way
00:33:16as I
00:33:16said
00:33:17it is
00:33:17astonishing
00:33:17to me
00:33:18barely
00:33:19explicable
00:33:20but there
00:33:21it is
00:33:22anyway
00:33:22that's
00:33:23one thing
00:33:24I wanted
00:33:26to say
00:33:26the other
00:33:27thing is
00:33:28I want
00:33:28to just
00:33:29say
00:33:29one last
00:33:31thing
00:33:31about
00:33:33the
00:33:34attack
00:33:36one of
00:33:37the
00:33:37claims
00:33:38that the
00:33:39Ukrainians
00:33:40made
00:33:40about
00:33:41the
00:33:42attack
00:33:42is
00:33:43that
00:33:43they
00:33:44not
00:33:44only
00:33:45damaged
00:33:46and
00:33:46destroyed
00:33:47various
00:33:48Russian
00:33:49bombers
00:33:49and to
00:33:50repeat
00:33:50again
00:33:50Sergei
00:33:51Yavkov
00:33:52the Russian
00:33:52Deputy
00:33:53Foreign
00:33:54Minister
00:33:54is
00:33:54claiming
00:33:55that
00:33:55no
00:33:55bombers
00:33:55were
00:33:56in fact
00:33:56destroyed
00:33:57that
00:33:57they
00:33:58can
00:33:58all
00:33:58be
00:33:58repaired
00:33:59he
00:33:59may
00:33:59be
00:33:59right
00:34:00he
00:34:00may
00:34:00be
00:34:01wrong
00:34:01I
00:34:01don't
00:34:02know
00:34:02satellite
00:34:03information
00:34:04suggests
00:34:04that
00:34:05the
00:34:05actual
00:34:05number
00:34:06of
00:34:06bombers
00:34:07destroyed
00:34:07is
00:34:07probably
00:34:08closer
00:34:08to
00:34:09say
00:34:10three
00:34:10or
00:34:10five
00:34:11or
00:34:11that
00:34:11kind
00:34:12of
00:34:12number
00:34:12than
00:34:13the
00:34:1310
00:34:14or
00:34:1420
00:34:14or
00:34:1430
00:34:15or
00:34:1540
00:34:15that
00:34:16some
00:34:16are
00:34:16saying
00:34:16again
00:34:17I'm
00:34:17not
00:34:17going
00:34:17to
00:34:18get
00:34:18into
00:34:18a
00:34:19discussion
00:34:19about
00:34:19numbers
00:34:20of
00:34:20bombers
00:34:21I
00:34:21can't
00:34:22myself
00:34:22make
00:34:23sense
00:34:23of
00:34:23the
00:34:24satellite
00:34:24photos
00:34:25but
00:34:25one
00:34:25thing
00:34:26I
00:34:26can
00:34:26say
00:34:26which
00:34:27is
00:34:27that
00:34:27the
00:34:27Ukrainians
00:34:27also
00:34:28claimed
00:34:28that
00:34:29they
00:34:30managed
00:34:30to
00:34:30destroy
00:34:31a
00:34:32number
00:34:32of
00:34:33A-50
00:34:34AWACS
00:34:35aircraft
00:34:36of
00:34:36which
00:34:36the
00:34:37Russians
00:34:37indeed
00:34:37have
00:34:39only
00:34:40a
00:34:40limited
00:34:41supply
00:34:41it
00:34:43turns
00:34:43out
00:34:44that
00:34:44they
00:34:44did
00:34:45do
00:34:46some
00:34:46damage
00:34:47to
00:34:48some
00:34:48A-50
00:34:49AWACS
00:34:50aircraft
00:34:51we
00:34:52have
00:34:52the
00:34:52satellite
00:34:52photos
00:34:53but
00:34:54they
00:34:54don't
00:34:54seem
00:34:55to
00:34:55realise
00:34:55that
00:34:55the
00:34:56A-50
00:34:57AWACS
00:34:58aircraft
00:34:59that
00:34:59they
00:34:59damaged
00:35:00are
00:35:00actually
00:35:01out
00:35:01of
00:35:01service
00:35:02their
00:35:03old
00:35:03models
00:35:04left
00:35:04over
00:35:04from
00:35:04the
00:35:05Soviet
00:35:05period
00:35:06it
00:35:07seems
00:35:07that
00:35:07they
00:35:07have
00:35:07not
00:35:08been
00:35:09in
00:35:09operation
00:35:09they
00:35:10were
00:35:11probably
00:35:11being
00:35:11used
00:35:12to
00:35:12provide
00:35:13spare
00:35:13parts
00:35:14to
00:35:14the
00:35:15existing
00:35:15A-50
00:35:17AWACS
00:35:18fleet
00:35:19they
00:35:19were
00:35:19non
00:35:20operational
00:35:20so
00:35:22anyway
00:35:22that's
00:35:23all
00:35:23I'm
00:35:23going
00:35:24to
00:35:24say
00:35:24I'm
00:35:24not
00:35:25going
00:35:25to
00:35:25say
00:35:25more
00:35:25but
00:35:26on
00:35:26this
00:35:27last
00:35:28point
00:35:28it
00:35:29does
00:35:29seem
00:35:29that
00:35:29the
00:35:30satellite
00:35:31evidence
00:35:31seen
00:35:32and examined
00:35:33by
00:35:33others
00:35:33not
00:35:34by
00:35:35me
00:35:35is
00:35:35pretty
00:35:36conclusive
00:35:36anyway
00:35:37that's
00:35:38what I
00:35:38wanted
00:35:38to
00:35:39say
00:35:39about
00:35:40all
00:35:40of
00:35:40these
00:35:40developments
00:35:41now
00:35:42now
00:35:42the
00:35:43Ukrainians
00:35:43are
00:35:44not
00:35:44only
00:35:44refusing
00:35:45to
00:35:46promise
00:35:48not to
00:35:49carry out
00:35:50further
00:35:50attacks
00:35:51of this
00:35:52kind
00:35:52in the
00:35:53future
00:35:54but
00:35:56they're
00:35:56also
00:35:56making
00:35:57all
00:35:58sorts
00:35:58of
00:35:58other
00:35:59really
00:36:01rather
00:36:02extraordinary
00:36:03steps
00:36:03consistent
00:36:05with
00:36:06Zelensky's
00:36:07comments
00:36:08of three
00:36:09days ago
00:36:10that
00:36:11the
00:36:11meeting
00:36:12the
00:36:13last
00:36:14meeting
00:36:14the
00:36:14meeting
00:36:14on the
00:36:151st
00:36:15of
00:36:15June
00:36:16in
00:36:17Istanbul
00:36:17had
00:36:18been
00:36:18a
00:36:18failure
00:36:19that
00:36:19the
00:36:20Russian
00:36:20memorandum
00:36:21was
00:36:21completely
00:36:21unacceptable
00:36:23and
00:36:24that
00:36:24the
00:36:24Istanbul
00:36:25process
00:36:26needs
00:36:27to be
00:36:27abandoned
00:36:28the
00:36:29one
00:36:29thing
00:36:30that
00:36:30did
00:36:30come
00:36:30out
00:36:30of
00:36:31the
00:36:31Istanbul
00:36:31talks
00:36:32on
00:36:32the
00:36:321st
00:36:33of
00:36:33June
00:36:33was
00:36:33an
00:36:34agreement
00:36:34that
00:36:35there
00:36:35would
00:36:35be
00:36:35a
00:36:35further
00:36:35prisoner
00:36:36exchange
00:36:37and
00:36:38that
00:36:38the
00:36:38Russians
00:36:38said
00:36:42that
00:36:43they
00:36:43would
00:36:44hand
00:36:44over
00:36:44to
00:36:45the
00:36:45Ukrainians
00:36:46the
00:36:46bodies
00:36:46of
00:36:476,000
00:36:48Ukrainian
00:36:49soldiers
00:36:49who had
00:36:50been
00:36:50killed
00:36:50and
00:36:51whose
00:36:52remains
00:36:53were held
00:36:54in cold
00:36:55storage
00:36:56in
00:36:56Russia
00:36:57now
00:36:58it
00:36:58turns
00:36:59out
00:36:59that
00:37:00these
00:37:016,000
00:37:02troops
00:37:02Ukrainian
00:37:03troops
00:37:04were
00:37:05collected
00:37:06by the
00:37:06Russians
00:37:07in
00:37:07Korsk
00:37:08region
00:37:08after
00:37:09the
00:37:10Russians
00:37:11drove
00:37:11the
00:37:12Ukrainians
00:37:13out
00:37:13of
00:37:13Korsk
00:37:14region
00:37:14or at
00:37:14least
00:37:14that
00:37:15is
00:37:15what
00:37:15Russian
00:37:16media
00:37:17comments
00:37:18are
00:37:18claiming
00:37:19obviously
00:37:20I
00:37:21cannot
00:37:22corroborate
00:37:23this
00:37:23but
00:37:24if that
00:37:24is
00:37:24true
00:37:25then
00:37:26that
00:37:26gives
00:37:26us
00:37:26some
00:37:27sense
00:37:27of
00:37:28the
00:37:29scale
00:37:29of
00:37:29the
00:37:29losses
00:37:30that
00:37:31the
00:37:31Ukrainians
00:37:32suffered
00:37:32I
00:37:33am
00:37:34guessing
00:37:34during
00:37:35the
00:37:36last
00:37:36stages
00:37:37of
00:37:38the
00:37:38Russian
00:37:38offensive
00:37:39in
00:37:40Korsk
00:37:40region
00:37:40in
00:37:41February
00:37:42and
00:37:42March
00:37:43of
00:37:43this
00:37:44year
00:37:44when
00:37:45I
00:37:45am
00:37:46going
00:37:46to
00:37:46guess
00:37:47that
00:37:48a
00:37:48majority
00:37:49of
00:37:49these
00:37:50Ukrainian
00:37:50soldiers
00:37:51were
00:37:51killed
00:37:52now
00:37:53Zelensky
00:37:53obviously
00:37:54made a
00:37:56big
00:37:56play
00:37:57of
00:37:58the
00:37:58Korsk
00:37:59operation
00:37:59back in
00:38:00August
00:38:01of last
00:38:01year
00:38:02his
00:38:03prestige
00:38:03was heavily
00:38:04bound up
00:38:05by this
00:38:06operation
00:38:07he probably
00:38:09does not
00:38:10want to
00:38:10acknowledge
00:38:10the extent
00:38:12of
00:38:13Ukrainian
00:38:14losses
00:38:14in this
00:38:15operation
00:38:16and
00:38:18for that
00:38:18reason
00:38:19and
00:38:19also
00:38:20in
00:38:21light
00:38:21of
00:38:22the
00:38:22fact
00:38:22that
00:38:23apparently
00:38:24families
00:38:25of
00:38:26Ukrainian
00:38:27servicemen
00:38:27who were
00:38:28killed
00:38:28would
00:38:29have
00:38:30to
00:38:30would
00:38:30be
00:38:31entitled
00:38:31to
00:38:32receive
00:38:32compensation
00:38:33and it
00:38:34seems
00:38:35that the
00:38:35Ukrainians
00:38:35therefore
00:38:36given the
00:38:38enormous
00:38:38cost
00:38:39to their
00:38:40already
00:38:40overstrained
00:38:44budget
00:38:45in
00:38:45proud
00:38:46by the
00:38:46way
00:38:47on
00:38:47his
00:38:47blog
00:38:48the
00:38:48peacemonger
00:38:49is the
00:38:50best
00:38:50person
00:38:50to go
00:38:51to
00:38:51for
00:38:51a
00:38:52discussion
00:38:52of
00:38:53the
00:38:53current
00:38:53economic
00:38:54situation
00:38:55in
00:38:55Ukraine
00:38:56and
00:38:57the
00:38:57fact
00:38:57that
00:38:58Ukraine
00:38:58is
00:38:58to
00:38:58all
00:38:59intents
00:38:59and
00:38:59purposes
00:38:59a
00:39:00bankrupt
00:39:01country
00:39:01anyway
00:39:02the
00:39:02Ukrainians
00:39:03probably
00:39:05cannot
00:39:05afford
00:39:05to pay
00:39:06that
00:39:06compensation
00:39:07anyway
00:39:08which
00:39:09is
00:39:09perhaps
00:39:10one
00:39:11reason
00:39:11why
00:39:12they
00:39:12systematically
00:39:13downplay
00:39:14the
00:39:14scale
00:39:14of their
00:39:15losses
00:39:15and
00:39:16apparently
00:39:17inform
00:39:18the
00:39:20families
00:39:21of
00:39:23soldiers
00:39:24who may
00:39:25have been
00:39:25killed
00:39:25in the
00:39:26war
00:39:26that
00:39:27they're
00:39:27missing
00:39:27in
00:39:28action
00:39:28rather
00:39:29than
00:39:29dead
00:39:29just
00:39:30saying
00:39:30that
00:39:31at least
00:39:31is what
00:39:32I have
00:39:32heard
00:39:32it seems
00:39:34plausible
00:39:34to me
00:39:35I cannot
00:39:36confirm
00:39:37it
00:39:37anyway
00:39:38one way
00:39:39or the
00:39:39other
00:39:39this
00:39:41offer
00:39:41from the
00:39:41Russians
00:39:42to return
00:39:426,000
00:39:43bodies
00:39:45to Ukraine
00:39:46has been
00:39:48very embarrassing
00:39:49to the
00:39:49Ukrainians
00:39:50and
00:39:52the
00:39:52Ukrainians
00:39:54have now
00:39:55walked back
00:39:56on all of it
00:39:57apparently
00:39:58they walked
00:39:58back
00:39:59on the
00:39:59prisoner
00:40:00exchange
00:40:00and
00:40:02they are
00:40:02refusing
00:40:03to accept
00:40:04the bodies
00:40:05apparently
00:40:07prisoners
00:40:07were brought
00:40:08to the
00:40:09border
00:40:09by the
00:40:10Russians
00:40:11to be
00:40:11exchanged
00:40:12for
00:40:12Ukrainian
00:40:13prisoners
00:40:13but there
00:40:14was no
00:40:14one
00:40:15on the
00:40:15Ukrainian
00:40:16side
00:40:16of the
00:40:16border
00:40:17to receive
00:40:17them
00:40:18and
00:40:19150
00:40:20trucks
00:40:21with about
00:40:211,500
00:40:22bodies
00:40:23a quarter
00:40:25in other words
00:40:25of the
00:40:266,000
00:40:26that the
00:40:27Russians
00:40:27said they
00:40:28would return
00:40:29also were
00:40:31sent
00:40:32to an
00:40:33area
00:40:33of the
00:40:34border
00:40:34but again
00:40:36the
00:40:36Ukrainians
00:40:37refused
00:40:38to
00:40:39accept
00:40:40them
00:40:40now it
00:40:42could be
00:40:42that this
00:40:43is only
00:40:43going to
00:40:44be a
00:40:44delay
00:40:44that the
00:40:45Ukrainians
00:40:45are going
00:40:46to have
00:40:46a change
00:40:46of heart
00:40:47that perhaps
00:40:48domestic
00:40:49pressure
00:40:49within
00:40:50Ukraine
00:40:51from the
00:40:52families
00:40:52of prisoners
00:40:53and from
00:40:54the families
00:40:55of dead
00:40:56or missing
00:40:57Ukrainian
00:40:58soldiers
00:40:58will cause
00:41:00a change
00:41:00of heart
00:41:01it could
00:41:02be the
00:41:02case
00:41:03that
00:41:03pressure
00:41:04from
00:41:05external
00:41:06powers
00:41:07not just
00:41:08Western
00:41:09governments
00:41:10like say
00:41:10the US
00:41:11government
00:41:11but
00:41:12agencies
00:41:14for example
00:41:14like the
00:41:16Swiss Red
00:41:16Cross
00:41:17might also
00:41:18cause
00:41:19a change
00:41:20of heart
00:41:20but for
00:41:21the moment
00:41:22I have
00:41:23to say
00:41:23it does
00:41:24look to
00:41:25me
00:41:25as if
00:41:27the
00:41:28Ukrainians
00:41:28have made
00:41:28a decision
00:41:29that they're
00:41:30not going
00:41:30to go
00:41:30along with
00:41:31any of
00:41:31this
00:41:32that they're
00:41:32not going
00:41:33to accept
00:41:33the bodies
00:41:33at all
00:41:34that they
00:41:35are
00:41:35running
00:41:36that they
00:41:37are
00:41:37delaying
00:41:38at the
00:41:38very least
00:41:39the
00:41:40completion
00:41:41of the
00:41:42prisoner
00:41:43exchange
00:41:44because
00:41:45they don't
00:41:46want it
00:41:47to appear
00:41:48that the
00:41:49Istanbul
00:41:50process
00:41:50is producing
00:41:52any results
00:41:53at all
00:41:55given that
00:41:56they've made
00:41:57it fairly
00:41:58clear
00:41:58that their
00:41:59intention
00:42:00now
00:42:00is to
00:42:01walk away
00:42:02entirely
00:42:03from it
00:42:04now
00:42:05you can
00:42:06perhaps
00:42:06understand
00:42:07some of
00:42:08the politics
00:42:09behind this
00:42:11decision
00:42:11but I still
00:42:13have to say
00:42:13I find
00:42:14the coldness
00:42:16callousness
00:42:18even
00:42:19of these
00:42:20decisions
00:42:20towards the
00:42:22families of
00:42:22the prisoners
00:42:23and of the
00:42:24dead soldiers
00:42:25really quite
00:42:26chilling
00:42:26I don't
00:42:27understand this
00:42:28at all
00:42:28I would have
00:42:30thought that
00:42:30any government
00:42:31feeling any degree
00:42:32of responsibility
00:42:33to its armed
00:42:35forces
00:42:35to the soldiers
00:42:36who serve
00:42:37in the armed
00:42:38forces
00:42:38to the families
00:42:39of the soldiers
00:42:40who serve
00:42:41in the armed
00:42:42forces
00:42:43would be
00:42:43extremely
00:42:44anxious
00:42:45to get back
00:42:47the dead
00:42:47the soldiers
00:42:49who are dead
00:42:49and to
00:42:50repatriate
00:42:51any prisoners
00:42:53but
00:42:54anyway
00:42:55that is
00:42:56the stance
00:42:57that Ukraine
00:42:58is taking
00:42:59it is very
00:43:00very much
00:43:01by the way
00:43:04consistent
00:43:05with the
00:43:06same
00:43:07uncompromising
00:43:09stance
00:43:09that Ukraine
00:43:11has taken
00:43:11ever since
00:43:13the collapse
00:43:14of the Istanbul
00:43:14talks
00:43:15in April
00:43:162022
00:43:17and ever
00:43:19since
00:43:20Zelensky
00:43:20himself
00:43:21enacted
00:43:22that decree
00:43:24in October
00:43:252022
00:43:26prohibiting
00:43:28negotiations
00:43:29with Russia
00:43:31a decree
00:43:33which
00:43:34notwithstanding
00:43:35the two
00:43:36meetings
00:43:37which have
00:43:38taken place
00:43:39in Istanbul
00:43:41at American
00:43:43insistence
00:43:44he shows
00:43:45no sign
00:43:46at all
00:43:47of being
00:43:49prepared
00:43:49to rescind
00:43:50so
00:43:52there we are
00:43:53it looks
00:43:53as if
00:43:54everything
00:43:55in effect
00:43:55has come
00:43:56to a
00:43:57complete
00:43:57stop
00:43:58now
00:43:59we're going
00:44:00to see
00:44:00we have to
00:44:01see what
00:44:01is going
00:44:02to happen
00:44:02but to
00:44:03repeat
00:44:03again
00:44:04we've had
00:44:05a comment
00:44:05from
00:44:05Donald
00:44:06Trump
00:44:07that the
00:44:09Ukrainians
00:44:10have brought
00:44:10any
00:44:11retaliation
00:44:13upon
00:44:13themselves
00:44:14by launching
00:44:16that attack
00:44:17on the
00:44:18airfields
00:44:19we've had
00:44:20strong statements
00:44:21about the
00:44:22attack on the
00:44:23airfields
00:44:24from various
00:44:24prominent people
00:44:26in the United
00:44:26States
00:44:27and one
00:44:28senses that
00:44:29this dismay
00:44:30is shared
00:44:31by some
00:44:32people
00:44:32within the
00:44:33administration
00:44:34we have
00:44:35also had
00:44:36reports
00:44:37that the
00:44:38United States
00:44:39that Donald
00:44:39Trump
00:44:40that the
00:44:40White House
00:44:41are now
00:44:42finally taking
00:44:44steps
00:44:45to kill
00:44:46or neuter
00:44:48Lindsey Graham's
00:44:50sanctions bill
00:44:51it does
00:44:53look as
00:44:55if the
00:44:55Russians
00:44:55are once
00:44:58again
00:44:58in the
00:45:00diplomatic
00:45:00driving seat
00:45:01that they
00:45:02have seen
00:45:03off
00:45:04once more
00:45:05attempts
00:45:07by some
00:45:08people in
00:45:09the United
00:45:10States
00:45:10to put
00:45:11pressure on
00:45:12them
00:45:12through
00:45:13sanctions
00:45:13careful
00:45:16footwork
00:45:17if you
00:45:18like
00:45:18has
00:45:19achieved
00:45:20that
00:45:20and
00:45:22that
00:45:24the
00:45:25Russians
00:45:26for the
00:45:27moment
00:45:27at least
00:45:28have
00:45:29freedom
00:45:30of
00:45:31maneuver
00:45:31basically
00:45:33to go
00:45:34on doing
00:45:35on the
00:45:36battlefields
00:45:37whatever
00:45:37they choose
00:45:39I've
00:45:40never
00:45:40myself
00:45:41seen
00:45:41any
00:45:42sign
00:45:42that the
00:45:43Russians
00:45:44have
00:45:44in
00:45:45any
00:45:45way
00:45:45at all
00:45:46restricted
00:45:47or
00:45:48limited
00:45:48themselves
00:45:49in
00:45:50their
00:45:50actions
00:45:51on
00:45:52the
00:45:52Ukrainian
00:45:52battlefields
00:45:54or in
00:45:54the
00:45:54various
00:45:55missile
00:45:56and
00:45:56drone
00:45:56strikes
00:45:57that
00:45:58they
00:45:58continue
00:45:58to
00:45:59conduct
00:45:59against
00:46:00Ukraine
00:46:01but
00:46:02for what
00:46:03it's
00:46:03worth
00:46:04they
00:46:04can
00:46:05now
00:46:05press
00:46:05forward
00:46:06and
00:46:07continue
00:46:07to do
00:46:07all of
00:46:08the
00:46:08things
00:46:08that
00:46:08they've
00:46:09always
00:46:09been
00:46:09doing
00:46:10without
00:46:11perhaps
00:46:12having
00:46:12to look
00:46:13back
00:46:14behind
00:46:16their
00:46:16shoulder
00:46:16and see
00:46:18what it
00:46:19is that
00:46:20the
00:46:20Americans
00:46:21are going
00:46:21to do
00:46:22in
00:46:23response
00:46:23now
00:46:25here again
00:46:26I want
00:46:27to say
00:46:27something
00:46:27about the
00:46:28nature
00:46:29of Russian
00:46:30retaliation
00:46:31I
00:46:32I have
00:46:32encountered
00:46:34some
00:46:34pushback
00:46:35from some
00:46:36people
00:46:36about
00:46:37comments
00:46:38that I
00:46:38made
00:46:39directly
00:46:39after
00:46:39the
00:46:40attacks
00:46:41on the
00:46:41air
00:46:41bases
00:46:42I said
00:46:43at the
00:46:43time
00:46:43that I
00:46:43thought
00:46:44those
00:46:44attacks
00:46:44had been
00:46:45greatly
00:46:45exaggerated
00:46:46in terms
00:46:47of their
00:46:47impact
00:46:48which is
00:46:48true
00:46:48by the
00:46:49way
00:46:50I'm
00:46:50confident
00:46:51about
00:46:51that
00:46:51and I
00:46:52said
00:46:52that the
00:46:53Russians
00:46:53would
00:46:55almost certainly
00:46:56not be
00:46:56provoked
00:46:57or panicked
00:46:58into an
00:46:58overreaction
00:46:59concerning
00:47:00the
00:47:00attacks
00:47:01on the
00:47:01air
00:47:02bases
00:47:02and that
00:47:04is indeed
00:47:04so far
00:47:05as I
00:47:05can see
00:47:06the
00:47:06general
00:47:07sentiment
00:47:07in
00:47:08Russia
00:47:08now
00:47:09I'm
00:47:09going
00:47:10to
00:47:10read
00:47:10out
00:47:10some
00:47:11comments
00:47:11about
00:47:12retaliatory
00:47:12action
00:47:13in
00:47:13relation
00:47:14to
00:47:14the
00:47:14attacks
00:47:15on
00:47:15the
00:47:15air
00:47:16bases
00:47:16made
00:47:17by
00:47:18Redovka
00:47:19now
00:47:20I've
00:47:20referred
00:47:21to
00:47:22Redovka
00:47:22many
00:47:23times
00:47:23in
00:47:24many
00:47:25programs
00:47:26it is
00:47:27a
00:47:28Russian
00:47:29newspaper
00:47:30that is
00:47:31very
00:47:32very
00:47:32much
00:47:33on
00:47:34the
00:47:34nationalist
00:47:35wing
00:47:36of the
00:47:37Russian
00:47:37media
00:47:38it
00:47:39strongly
00:47:40supports
00:47:41the
00:47:42military
00:47:43and
00:47:43the
00:47:44military
00:47:44campaign
00:47:45in
00:47:46Ukraine
00:47:46it
00:47:47is
00:47:47large
00:47:48numbers
00:47:48of
00:47:48journalists
00:47:49operating
00:47:50in
00:47:51on
00:47:52the
00:47:52battlefield
00:47:52and
00:47:53provides
00:47:54very
00:47:54very
00:47:55interesting
00:47:56reports
00:47:57it
00:47:57is
00:47:58extremely
00:48:00patriotic
00:48:01it
00:48:02is
00:48:02in
00:48:02no
00:48:03sense
00:48:03if you
00:48:04like
00:48:05a
00:48:05liberal
00:48:06or
00:48:06soft
00:48:07journal
00:48:09in
00:48:09terms
00:48:10of
00:48:11Russian
00:48:11attitudes
00:48:12and
00:48:14this
00:48:15is what
00:48:15they have
00:48:16said
00:48:16in
00:48:17response
00:48:18to
00:48:18the
00:48:19attacks
00:48:19about
00:48:20what
00:48:22the
00:48:23Russians
00:48:23should
00:48:24do
00:48:24in
00:48:26response
00:48:27to
00:48:28the
00:48:28attacks
00:48:29on
00:48:30the
00:48:30airfields
00:48:31they
00:48:32say
00:48:33this
00:48:35they
00:48:36say
00:48:36this
00:48:38one
00:48:39more
00:48:39important
00:48:40point
00:48:40everyone
00:48:41is now
00:48:42digging
00:48:42the
00:48:42ground
00:48:42with
00:48:43their
00:48:43hooves
00:48:43and
00:48:44wanting
00:48:44to
00:48:45unleash
00:48:45a
00:48:46retaliatory
00:48:46strike
00:48:47on
00:48:47the
00:48:48enemy
00:48:48so
00:48:49that
00:48:49it
00:48:49would
00:48:49dig
00:48:50them
00:48:50into
00:48:50concrete
00:48:51up
00:48:52to
00:48:52their
00:48:53ears
00:48:53the
00:48:54reality
00:48:55is
00:48:56that
00:48:56conflicts
00:48:57are
00:48:57not
00:48:57won
00:48:58by
00:48:59sabotage
00:49:00alone
00:49:01nor
00:49:02are
00:49:02they
00:49:02won
00:49:03by
00:49:03violent
00:49:04emotional
00:49:04reactions
00:49:06strategy
00:49:07is
00:49:08important
00:49:08and
00:49:09understanding
00:49:10of how
00:49:10exactly
00:49:11we
00:49:11want
00:49:12to
00:49:12win
00:49:13not
00:49:14psychological
00:49:14pressure
00:49:15not
00:49:16a
00:49:16demonstration
00:49:17of
00:49:18this
00:49:18is
00:49:18what
00:49:19we
00:49:19can
00:49:20do
00:49:20but
00:49:21rather
00:49:22constant
00:49:23systematic
00:49:25efforts
00:49:25to
00:49:26undermine
00:49:27the
00:49:27enemy's
00:49:28defences
00:49:28and
00:49:29find
00:49:30weak
00:49:30spots
00:49:30we
00:49:31do
00:49:32not
00:49:32need
00:49:32any
00:49:33retaliatory
00:49:34strike
00:49:35we
00:49:35need
00:49:36a
00:49:36list
00:49:36of
00:49:36targets
00:49:37that
00:49:37will
00:49:37be
00:49:37hit
00:49:38because
00:49:39we
00:49:39need
00:49:40it
00:49:40and
00:49:40we
00:49:41will
00:49:41deliver
00:49:42those
00:49:43strikes
00:49:43before
00:49:44the
00:49:44enemy
00:49:44attacks
00:49:45after
00:49:46the
00:49:46attack
00:49:47even
00:49:48if
00:49:48the
00:49:49enemy
00:49:49does
00:49:50not
00:49:50attack
00:49:51at
00:49:52all
00:49:52the
00:49:53enemy
00:49:53produces
00:49:54drones
00:49:55in a
00:49:56garage
00:49:56fine
00:49:58get
00:49:58hands
00:49:59there
00:49:59does
00:50:00does
00:50:01the
00:50:01enemy
00:50:01needs
00:50:02industry
00:50:03and
00:50:03its
00:50:04industry
00:50:04needs
00:50:05electricity
00:50:06let's
00:50:07continue
00:50:08to bring
00:50:08down
00:50:09the
00:50:09energy
00:50:09system
00:50:10does
00:50:11the
00:50:11enemy
00:50:11have
00:50:12a
00:50:12brain
00:50:12center
00:50:13let's
00:50:14hit
00:50:14that
00:50:14if
00:50:15it
00:50:15brings
00:50:15us
00:50:15benefits
00:50:16the
00:50:17main
00:50:18thing
00:50:19is
00:50:20that
00:50:20this
00:50:20is
00:50:20dictated
00:50:21not
00:50:22by
00:50:23emotion
00:50:24not
00:50:25by
00:50:25a
00:50:26reaction
00:50:26to
00:50:27the
00:50:27enemy's
00:50:28actions
00:50:28but
00:50:29by
00:50:30our
00:50:30own
00:50:31will
00:50:31and
00:50:32calculation
00:50:33of
00:50:34specific
00:50:35beneficial
00:50:36effects
00:50:37we
00:50:38will
00:50:38receive
00:50:39from
00:50:39such
00:50:40a
00:50:41blow
00:50:41that
00:50:43is
00:50:43very
00:50:44much
00:50:44the
00:50:45Russian
00:50:45style
00:50:46to
00:50:46repeat
00:50:47again
00:50:47they
00:50:48do
00:50:48not
00:50:49let
00:50:50themselves
00:50:50be
00:50:50panicked
00:50:51provoked
00:50:52shocked
00:50:53dismayed
00:50:54into
00:50:55doing
00:50:55things
00:50:56that
00:50:57are
00:50:57not
00:50:57going
00:50:58to
00:50:58benefit
00:50:58them
00:50:59or
00:51:00which
00:51:00might
00:51:00indeed
00:51:01benefit
00:51:02their
00:51:02adversary
00:51:03if
00:51:04it
00:51:04seems
00:51:04that
00:51:05they
00:51:05are
00:51:05over
00:51:06reactions
00:51:06or
00:51:08mis
00:51:08reactions
00:51:09to
00:51:10what
00:51:10the
00:51:10enemy
00:51:11has
00:51:11done
00:51:11their
00:51:12approach
00:51:12to
00:51:13war
00:51:13and
00:51:14no
00:51:14country
00:51:15knows
00:51:17more
00:51:17about
00:51:17war
00:51:18than
00:51:19Russia
00:51:19and
00:51:20this
00:51:20isn't
00:51:20just
00:51:21because
00:51:21of
00:51:22the
00:51:22second
00:51:22world
00:51:22war
00:51:23the
00:51:23great
00:51:23patriotic
00:51:24war
00:51:24but
00:51:25because
00:51:26of
00:51:26Russia's
00:51:27very
00:51:27very
00:51:28long
00:51:28history
00:51:28in
00:51:29wars
00:51:30no
00:51:31country
00:51:31knows
00:51:32more
00:51:32about
00:51:33war
00:51:33than
00:51:34Russia
00:51:34and
00:51:35the
00:51:36Russians
00:51:36know
00:51:37very
00:51:38well
00:51:38in
00:51:39fact
00:51:39they
00:51:40have
00:51:40an
00:51:40almost
00:51:40instinctive
00:51:41understanding
00:51:42that
00:51:43the
00:51:43way
00:51:43to
00:51:43win
00:51:44wars
00:51:44is
00:51:45to
00:51:46work
00:51:47constantly
00:51:48and
00:51:49single
00:51:50mindedly
00:51:51towards
00:51:51the
00:51:52only
00:51:52objective
00:51:53which
00:51:54ultimately
00:51:54matters
00:51:55which
00:51:56is
00:51:56victory
00:51:57just
00:51:58saying
00:51:59anyway
00:52:00let's
00:52:01perhaps
00:52:02now
00:52:02at this
00:52:03point
00:52:03touch
00:52:03upon
00:52:04the
00:52:04actual
00:52:05military
00:52:06situation
00:52:06again
00:52:07as this
00:52:08is a
00:52:08program
00:52:09that I'm
00:52:09doing
00:52:09under
00:52:10somewhat
00:52:10tight
00:52:11conditions
00:52:12let me
00:52:12simply
00:52:13quickly
00:52:13say
00:52:13that
00:52:14again
00:52:16I'm
00:52:16only
00:52:17going
00:52:17to
00:52:17deal
00:52:17with
00:52:17the
00:52:17situation
00:52:18rather
00:52:20quickly
00:52:20but
00:52:21briefly
00:52:22it looks
00:52:23as if
00:52:23the
00:52:23Russians
00:52:24are
00:52:24continuing
00:52:25to make
00:52:25significant
00:52:26progress
00:52:27in the
00:52:27Sumi
00:52:28area
00:52:29I said
00:52:30I think
00:52:31it was
00:52:31about
00:52:31a day
00:52:32ago
00:52:32that
00:52:32the
00:52:33village
00:52:33of
00:52:33Yablonufka
00:52:34I may be
00:52:35getting
00:52:36its name
00:52:36wrong
00:52:36has been
00:52:37captured
00:52:37by the
00:52:38Russians
00:52:38group of
00:52:39forces
00:52:39north
00:52:40immediately
00:52:41contradicted
00:52:42that
00:52:42they said
00:52:43that
00:52:43the
00:52:43claim
00:52:43that
00:52:44the
00:52:44Russians
00:52:44have
00:52:44captured
00:52:45this
00:52:46village
00:52:46is
00:52:46ahead
00:52:46of
00:52:47events
00:52:47in
00:52:47other
00:52:48words
00:52:48it
00:52:48is
00:52:48still
00:52:49being
00:52:49fought
00:52:49for
00:52:50but
00:52:50anyway
00:52:51elsewhere
00:52:52in
00:52:52that
00:52:53area
00:52:53the
00:52:53Russians
00:52:53continue
00:52:54to
00:52:54make
00:52:55very
00:52:57rapid
00:52:58progress
00:52:59the
00:53:00Ukrainians
00:53:00continue
00:53:01their
00:53:01unending
00:53:02effort
00:53:03to
00:53:03attack
00:53:04and
00:53:04capture
00:53:04the
00:53:05village
00:53:05of
00:53:05Tokino
00:53:06in
00:53:06Kosk
00:53:07region
00:53:07there
00:53:09are
00:53:09all
00:53:09sorts
00:53:09of
00:53:10I
00:53:10think
00:53:10very
00:53:11fanciful
00:53:12theories
00:53:13that
00:53:13the
00:53:13Ukrainians
00:53:14have
00:53:14some
00:53:14elaborate
00:53:16plan
00:53:17to
00:53:18march
00:53:18deep
00:53:19into
00:53:19Kosk
00:53:20region
00:53:20repeating
00:53:21the
00:53:21disaster
00:53:22presumably
00:53:22of
00:53:23last
00:53:23year
00:53:24to
00:53:25try
00:53:25to
00:53:25outflank
00:53:26the
00:53:26Russian
00:53:26forces
00:53:27in
00:53:27Sumi
00:53:28region
00:53:28or
00:53:29to
00:53:29force
00:53:29the
00:53:30Russians
00:53:31to
00:53:31divert
00:53:31forces
00:53:32from
00:53:32Sumi
00:53:32region
00:53:33to
00:53:33counter
00:53:34the
00:53:35Ukrainian
00:53:35troops
00:53:36who
00:53:36are
00:53:36going
00:53:36to
00:53:36be
00:53:36entering
00:53:37Kosk
00:53:37region
00:53:38that
00:53:39is
00:53:39an
00:53:39absurd
00:53:39idea
00:53:40by
00:53:40the
00:53:40way
00:53:41the
00:53:41Russians
00:53:42not
00:53:42only
00:53:42have
00:53:42ample
00:53:43reserves
00:53:43as
00:53:44we
00:53:44know
00:53:44to
00:53:45counter
00:53:45any
00:53:46Ukrainian
00:53:46move
00:53:47but if
00:53:48they
00:53:48don't
00:53:48want
00:53:48to
00:53:48deploy
00:53:48those
00:53:49reserves
00:53:49from
00:53:49their
00:53:49own
00:53:50army
00:53:50as
00:53:51we
00:53:51now
00:53:51know
00:53:52they
00:53:52have
00:53:52the
00:53:52alternative
00:53:53option
00:53:54which
00:53:54is
00:53:54to
00:53:54call
00:53:55on
00:53:55their
00:53:55North
00:53:55Korean
00:53:56friends
00:53:56to do
00:53:57to
00:53:59them
00:53:59has
00:54:00to
00:54:00have
00:54:01another
00:54:01meeting
00:54:02with
00:54:03the
00:54:03head
00:54:03of
00:54:03Russia's
00:54:04Secretary
00:54:05of
00:54:05Russia's
00:54:06Security
00:54:06Council
00:54:07Sergei
00:54:08Shoigu
00:54:08and
00:54:09has
00:54:09again
00:54:09told
00:54:10Shoigu
00:54:10that
00:54:11North Korea
00:54:12stands
00:54:13shoulder
00:54:13to shoulder
00:54:14with
00:54:15Russia
00:54:15and
00:54:17is
00:54:17fully
00:54:17able
00:54:18to
00:54:19help
00:54:20Russia
00:54:21or
00:54:21will
00:54:21help
00:54:22Russia
00:54:22in
00:54:23any
00:54:23situation
00:54:24where
00:54:25the
00:54:25Russians
00:54:25call
00:54:26on
00:54:27it
00:54:27to
00:54:27do
00:54:27so
00:54:28and
00:54:28feel
00:54:29the
00:54:30need
00:54:30for
00:54:31them
00:54:31to
00:54:31do
00:54:32so
00:54:32so
00:54:32if
00:54:33the
00:54:34Ukrainian
00:54:34forces
00:54:35for
00:54:35example
00:54:36were
00:54:37to
00:54:37start
00:54:37were
00:54:38to
00:54:38capture
00:54:38Totskino
00:54:39which
00:54:39they
00:54:39haven't
00:54:40so far
00:54:40managed
00:54:41to
00:54:41do
00:54:41despite
00:54:42weeks
00:54:43of
00:54:43trying
00:54:43and
00:54:44if
00:54:45the
00:54:45Ukrainians
00:54:45were
00:54:46to
00:54:46push
00:54:47deeper
00:54:47into
00:54:48Kursk
00:54:48region
00:54:48they
00:54:49would
00:54:49very
00:54:50very
00:54:50quickly
00:54:51come
00:54:51up
00:54:51against
00:54:52powerful
00:54:54Russian
00:54:54forces
00:54:55which
00:54:56would
00:54:56drive
00:54:56them
00:54:57back
00:54:57my
00:54:58own
00:54:58personal
00:54:58view
00:54:59for
00:54:59what
00:54:59it's
00:54:59worth
00:55:00is
00:55:00that
00:55:00this
00:55:00Totskino
00:55:01operation
00:55:02which
00:55:03apparently
00:55:03involves
00:55:05relatively
00:55:05few
00:55:06forces
00:55:06I
00:55:07think
00:55:07that
00:55:07the
00:55:07daily
00:55:08telegraph
00:55:08said
00:55:09that
00:55:09only
00:55:10two
00:55:10battalions
00:55:11of
00:55:11the
00:55:11Ukrainian
00:55:11military
00:55:12were
00:55:12involved
00:55:13in
00:55:13the
00:55:13attacks
00:55:14at
00:55:14the
00:55:14moment
00:55:15anyway
00:55:15from
00:55:16what
00:55:16I
00:55:16can
00:55:16see
00:55:17these
00:55:17attacks
00:55:18on
00:55:19Totskino
00:55:19continue
00:55:20to be
00:55:21a media
00:55:21operation
00:55:22Zelensky
00:55:24continues
00:55:24to make
00:55:25claims
00:55:26that the
00:55:27Ukrainians
00:55:28still have
00:55:29a
00:55:29foothold
00:55:30in Kursk
00:55:31region
00:55:32as I said
00:55:33earlier in the
00:55:34program
00:55:34his prestige
00:55:35is very tied up
00:55:37with the claim
00:55:38that the
00:55:38Ukrainians
00:55:39have
00:55:40with the
00:55:42Kursk
00:55:42operation
00:55:43in general
00:55:43I
00:55:44think
00:55:45that
00:55:45is
00:55:45all
00:55:46that
00:55:46this
00:55:46operation
00:55:47is
00:55:48about
00:55:48so
00:55:49that
00:55:49Zelensky
00:55:50can
00:55:50go
00:55:50around
00:55:50and
00:55:51still
00:55:51say
00:55:51that
00:55:52the
00:55:52Ukrainians
00:55:52have
00:55:53a
00:55:53presence
00:55:53in
00:55:54Kursk
00:55:54region
00:55:55all
00:55:56that
00:55:56is
00:55:56happening
00:55:57is
00:55:58that
00:55:58the
00:55:58Ukrainians
00:55:58are
00:55:58bleeding
00:55:59and
00:55:59losing
00:55:59men
00:56:00and
00:56:00machines
00:56:00keeping
00:56:01up
00:56:01this
00:56:02operation
00:56:02to
00:56:03no
00:56:04end
00:56:04and
00:56:05for
00:56:05no
00:56:05useful
00:56:06purpose
00:56:06ever
00:56:07that's
00:56:08what
00:56:08I
00:56:08think
00:56:08about
00:56:09that
00:56:09the
00:56:09Russians
00:56:10continue
00:56:11to
00:56:11tighten
00:56:11their
00:56:12grip
00:56:12on
00:56:13Totkino
00:56:14now
00:56:15there have
00:56:15been
00:56:15more
00:56:16reports
00:56:16of
00:56:16more
00:56:17Russian
00:56:17advances
00:56:17in
00:56:18the
00:56:18Chasofyar
00:56:19area
00:56:19in
00:56:20the
00:56:20area
00:56:20around
00:56:20Konstantinovka
00:56:21in
00:56:22the
00:56:22area
00:56:22of
00:56:23Pakrovsk
00:56:23itself
00:56:24yesterday
00:56:25Redovka
00:56:27as it
00:56:28happens
00:56:28provided
00:56:29a fairly
00:56:30interesting
00:56:30account
00:56:31of
00:56:31the
00:56:31operations
00:56:32near
00:56:33Pakrovsk
00:56:33but
00:56:34the
00:56:35one
00:56:36event
00:56:36that
00:56:36I'm
00:56:36going
00:56:37to
00:56:37speak
00:56:37about
00:56:37today
00:56:38briefly
00:56:38is
00:56:39that
00:56:39it
00:56:40seems
00:56:40that
00:56:40the
00:56:40Russians
00:56:41have
00:56:41now
00:56:41reached
00:56:43the
00:56:44fortified
00:56:44position
00:56:46of the
00:56:46Ukrainians
00:56:47in the
00:56:47small town
00:56:48of
00:56:48Komar
00:56:49in
00:56:50western
00:56:51Donbass
00:56:52southwestern
00:56:53Donbass
00:56:54it seems
00:56:56that
00:56:56fighting
00:56:56might have
00:56:58now
00:56:58begun
00:56:59in
00:56:59Komar
00:57:00itself
00:57:01there's
00:57:02various
00:57:03people who
00:57:03say that
00:57:04Komar
00:57:04is a
00:57:05linchpin
00:57:05to
00:57:05Ukrainian
00:57:06logistics
00:57:06in this
00:57:07area
00:57:08and
00:57:09is
00:57:09the
00:57:09key
00:57:10to
00:57:10the
00:57:10Ukrainian
00:57:11fortifications
00:57:12in this
00:57:13area
00:57:13if all
00:57:14of that
00:57:14is true
00:57:15and if
00:57:16Komar
00:57:16is captured
00:57:17over the
00:57:19next couple
00:57:19of days
00:57:20as it
00:57:21seems
00:57:21it will
00:57:22be
00:57:22then
00:57:23it's
00:57:24likely
00:57:25that
00:57:25Russians
00:57:26will
00:57:26again
00:57:27have
00:57:27strengthened
00:57:27their
00:57:28positions
00:57:28immediately
00:57:30east
00:57:30well not
00:57:31immediately
00:57:31but east
00:57:32of the
00:57:32Dnieper
00:57:33and
00:57:34it seems
00:57:34that
00:57:35in
00:57:35some
00:57:35locations
00:57:36now
00:57:36the
00:57:37Russians
00:57:37are
00:57:38a couple
00:57:40of hundred
00:57:40metres
00:57:40from
00:57:41Dnieper
00:57:41region
00:57:42they've
00:57:43been
00:57:43broadening
00:57:44their
00:57:44front
00:57:44in this
00:57:45area
00:57:45steadily
00:57:46capturing
00:57:47more and
00:57:47more
00:57:47fortified
00:57:48Ukrainian
00:57:49positions
00:57:49everything
00:57:50suggests
00:57:51that sometime
00:57:52in the
00:57:53summer
00:57:53a major
00:57:54advance
00:57:55towards
00:57:56the
00:57:56Dnieper
00:57:56will
00:57:57begin
00:57:57well I'm
00:57:58going to
00:57:59finish this
00:57:59programme
00:57:59by saying
00:58:01something
00:58:01quickly
00:58:02about the
00:58:02state
00:58:03of the
00:58:03Russian
00:58:03economy
00:58:04there is
00:58:04constant
00:58:05endless
00:58:06claims
00:58:07and
00:58:07speculations
00:58:08about
00:58:09the
00:58:09Russian
00:58:10economy
00:58:10and about
00:58:11its
00:58:12condition
00:58:12people are
00:58:14talking about
00:58:15it being
00:58:16overheated
00:58:17the
00:58:18financial
00:58:18times
00:58:19has
00:58:19recently
00:58:20started
00:58:20to
00:58:20talk
00:58:21about
00:58:21the
00:58:21fact
00:58:22that
00:58:22there
00:58:22was
00:58:22a
00:58:23slowdown
00:58:23in
00:58:24the
00:58:24Russian
00:58:24economy
00:58:24this
00:58:25year
00:58:25which
00:58:25there
00:58:25was
00:58:26as I
00:58:26said
00:58:27it
00:58:27was
00:58:27deliberately
00:58:28engineered
00:58:29by the
00:58:30Russian
00:58:30authorities
00:58:30themselves
00:58:31in order
00:58:32to bring
00:58:32down
00:58:33inflation
00:58:33as the
00:58:34Russian
00:58:35finance
00:58:35minister
00:58:36Anton
00:58:37Siloanov
00:58:38has just
00:58:39pointed
00:58:40out
00:58:41inflation
00:58:42came down
00:58:43quite far
00:58:45in May
00:58:47headline
00:58:48inflation
00:58:48is still
00:58:49over 9%
00:58:50but underlying
00:58:51inflation
00:58:51has fallen
00:58:52much further
00:58:53this is
00:58:54more
00:58:55a reflection
00:58:56of statistics
00:58:57than of the
00:58:58actual growth
00:58:59of prices
00:59:00at the
00:59:01moment
00:59:01and it
00:59:02looks like
00:59:03this year's
00:59:03harvest
00:59:03in Russia
00:59:04will be
00:59:04good
00:59:05and that
00:59:06points
00:59:06to
00:59:07an
00:59:07improvement
00:59:08in the
00:59:09inflation
00:59:10picture
00:59:11overall
00:59:11because
00:59:12a
00:59:13big
00:59:14harvest
00:59:15translates
00:59:16to
00:59:17lower
00:59:17food
00:59:18prices
00:59:19an obvious
00:59:19point
00:59:20which
00:59:20perhaps
00:59:21is not
00:59:22always fully
00:59:23understood
00:59:23I mean
00:59:24obviously
00:59:25all other
00:59:25things
00:59:25being equal
00:59:26but
00:59:27what I
00:59:28would say
00:59:28about this
00:59:29is a
00:59:30few
00:59:30quick
00:59:30things
00:59:31firstly
00:59:31the
00:59:32central
00:59:33bank
00:59:33has now
00:59:35shaved
00:59:351%
00:59:37of
00:59:38the
00:59:39interest
00:59:40rates
00:59:40so
00:59:40interest
00:59:41rates
00:59:41have gone
00:59:42down
00:59:42the
00:59:43central
00:59:44bank's
00:59:45rate
00:59:47has gone
00:59:47down
00:59:48from 21%
00:59:49to 20%
00:59:50it's a
00:59:51nominal
00:59:51reduction
00:59:53I mean
00:59:54it's hardly
00:59:54a reduction
00:59:56at all
00:59:57but it
00:59:58is a
00:59:59signal
00:59:59to the
01:00:01general
01:00:01economy
01:00:01to
01:00:02players
01:00:03within
01:00:03the
01:00:04economy
01:00:04that
01:00:05interests
01:00:06have
01:00:06indeed
01:00:07peaked
01:00:07that the
01:00:08peak
01:00:08of
01:00:10this
01:00:10interest
01:00:11rate
01:00:11cycle
01:00:12has
01:00:13passed
01:00:14and that
01:00:15interest
01:00:15rates
01:00:16from this
01:00:17point on
01:00:18as
01:00:19inflation
01:00:19slackens
01:00:20will start
01:00:21to fall
01:00:22and
01:00:24Shoghin
01:00:25by the
01:00:26way
01:00:26whom I
01:00:27mentioned
01:00:27earlier
01:00:28the
01:00:28head of
01:00:29the
01:00:29industrialist
01:00:31union
01:00:31before the
01:00:32central bank
01:00:33made
01:00:34its decision
01:00:35actually
01:00:35called
01:00:36precisely
01:00:37this thing
01:00:38he called
01:00:39for a
01:00:401%
01:00:41cut
01:00:41in
01:00:42interest
01:00:42rates
01:00:43to
01:00:43give
01:00:44economic
01:00:45players
01:00:46in Russia
01:00:47that
01:00:48reassurance
01:00:48but that's
01:00:49the more
01:00:50interesting
01:00:50thing
01:00:50is that
01:00:51we've
01:00:52had
01:00:52PMI
01:00:53surveys
01:00:53for May
01:00:54coming
01:00:55through
01:00:56now
01:00:56and
01:00:57both
01:00:58the
01:00:58services
01:00:58PMI
01:00:59and
01:01:00the
01:01:00industrial
01:01:02PMI
01:01:02surveys
01:01:03came out
01:01:04over
01:01:0450
01:01:05the
01:01:07manufacturing
01:01:08PMI
01:01:09was around
01:01:1051
01:01:11the
01:01:12services
01:01:13PMI
01:01:13was 52
01:01:14now
01:01:16PMI
01:01:17surveys
01:01:17if they
01:01:18show
01:01:19if they
01:01:20provide an
01:01:21indicator
01:01:21over
01:01:2250
01:01:22point
01:01:22to
01:01:22expansion
01:01:23if it
01:01:24is below
01:01:2550
01:01:25it
01:01:26points
01:01:27to
01:01:27contraction
01:01:28previously
01:01:30in previous
01:01:31months
01:01:32they were
01:01:33showing
01:01:33signs
01:01:34that the
01:01:35economy
01:01:35was
01:01:36entering
01:01:37a
01:01:38short
01:01:39period
01:01:39of
01:01:40contraction
01:01:41but
01:01:42already
01:01:42it
01:01:43seems
01:01:43before
01:01:45the
01:01:46decision
01:01:46to
01:01:47buy
01:01:48the
01:01:48central
01:01:49bank
01:01:49to
01:01:50cut
01:01:50the
01:01:50key
01:01:51rate
01:01:51PMI
01:01:54service
01:01:55PMI
01:01:56surveys
01:01:57in
01:01:58Russia
01:01:58had
01:02:00moved
01:02:00again
01:02:00into
01:02:01expansion
01:02:02territory
01:02:03now
01:02:04that
01:02:04could
01:02:06be a
01:02:07sign
01:02:07that the
01:02:08markets
01:02:09in
01:02:09Russia
01:02:10have
01:02:11already
01:02:12prior to
01:02:13the
01:02:14central
01:02:14bank's
01:02:14decision
01:02:15noted
01:02:17the
01:02:17fall
01:02:17in
01:02:18inflation
01:02:18and
01:02:20that
01:02:20banks
01:02:21and
01:02:21other
01:02:22credit
01:02:22institutions
01:02:23have
01:02:24already
01:02:24begun
01:02:25to
01:02:26lower
01:02:26interest
01:02:27rates
01:02:28so
01:02:29that
01:02:29we
01:02:30could
01:02:31be
01:02:31at
01:02:32the
01:02:32point
01:02:33where
01:02:34as I
01:02:35said
01:02:35interest
01:02:35rates
01:02:36in
01:02:36Russia
01:02:36begin to
01:02:37come
01:02:37down
01:02:37again
01:02:38in
01:02:38which
01:02:39case
01:02:39it's
01:02:39quite
01:02:39likely
01:02:40that
01:02:40the
01:02:41rate
01:02:41of
01:02:42economic
01:02:42growth
01:02:43will
01:02:43again
01:02:43begin
01:02:44to
01:02:44pick
01:02:44up
01:02:45the
01:02:45central
01:02:46bank
01:02:46will
01:02:47however
01:02:47be
01:02:47very
01:02:48careful
01:02:48not
01:02:49to
01:02:49repeat
01:02:50the
01:02:50mistake
01:02:50that
01:02:51it
01:02:51made
01:02:51last
01:02:51year
01:02:52which
01:02:53is
01:02:53to
01:02:53reduce
01:02:53interest
01:02:54rates
01:02:55too
01:02:55quickly
01:02:55what
01:02:57resulted
01:02:58in
01:02:59the
01:02:59overheating
01:03:01that
01:03:01we
01:03:02saw
01:03:02start
01:03:03to
01:03:03take
01:03:03hold
01:03:04in
01:03:04the
01:03:05summer
01:03:05which
01:03:06led
01:03:06to
01:03:07inflation
01:03:08rising
01:03:08to
01:03:09around
01:03:1010%
01:03:10so
01:03:12it's
01:03:12quite
01:03:13likely
01:03:13that
01:03:13all
01:03:14of
01:03:14these
01:03:14predictions
01:03:15of
01:03:16overheating
01:03:18overstretch
01:03:20economic
01:03:20collapse
01:03:21all that
01:03:22kind of
01:03:22thing
01:03:23will not
01:03:24be
01:03:24fulfilled
01:03:24and as
01:03:25we see
01:03:25that
01:03:26shocking
01:03:26himself
01:03:27the
01:03:27industrialists
01:03:28union
01:03:29head
01:03:29apparently
01:03:31still
01:03:33considers
01:03:342%
01:03:34growth
01:03:35feasible
01:03:36in
01:03:37conditions
01:03:38where
01:03:38lindsey
01:03:39graham's
01:03:40bone
01:03:40crushing
01:03:41sanctions
01:03:41are
01:03:42brought
01:03:43into
01:03:44play
01:03:45and
01:03:46are
01:03:47successfully
01:03:48enforced
01:03:49just
01:03:50saying
01:03:51anyway
01:03:52i'm going
01:03:54to just
01:03:54finish
01:03:55by saying
01:03:56one last
01:03:56thing
01:03:57which is
01:03:57that
01:03:58i've
01:03:59indicated
01:04:00i've just
01:04:00read
01:04:01a passage
01:04:02from
01:04:02redovka
01:04:03which
01:04:04speaks
01:04:05of the
01:04:06russians
01:04:06not
01:04:07planning
01:04:07some
01:04:08massive
01:04:08retaliatory
01:04:09operation
01:04:10but this
01:04:11is
01:04:11specifically
01:04:12in
01:04:13relation
01:04:14to
01:04:15the
01:04:16drone
01:04:16attacks
01:04:17on the
01:04:18airfields
01:04:19redovka
01:04:20is saying
01:04:21that
01:04:23this would
01:04:24serve no
01:04:24purpose
01:04:25the
01:04:27right
01:04:27thing
01:04:27for the
01:04:27russians
01:04:28to do
01:04:28is to
01:04:29focus
01:04:29on
01:04:30winning
01:04:30the
01:04:30war
01:04:30but i
01:04:32am
01:04:32getting
01:04:32further
01:04:33reports
01:04:34from
01:04:34inside
01:04:35russia
01:04:35from
01:04:37someone
01:04:37who has
01:04:38been
01:04:39extremely
01:04:39well
01:04:39informed
01:04:40about
01:04:41russian
01:04:41decision
01:04:42making
01:04:42in
01:04:44the
01:04:44past
01:04:45that
01:04:46on
01:04:48the
01:04:49what
01:04:50the
01:04:50russians
01:04:51considered
01:04:51to be
01:04:52the
01:04:52terrorist
01:04:52attacks
01:04:53the
01:04:54attacks
01:04:54on
01:04:54the
01:04:55railways
01:04:55the
01:04:56attacks
01:04:56which
01:04:57caused
01:04:57the
01:04:58deaths
01:04:59and
01:04:59injuries
01:05:00of
01:05:01civilians
01:05:01in
01:05:03what
01:05:03the
01:05:03russians
01:05:04see
01:05:04as
01:05:05targeted
01:05:06attacks
01:05:07on
01:05:08civilians
01:05:08the
01:05:09train
01:05:09that
01:05:09was
01:05:09crossing
01:05:10the
01:05:10bridge
01:05:10in
01:05:11Bryansk
01:05:12region
01:05:12specifically
01:05:13that
01:05:14the
01:05:14russians
01:05:15are
01:05:15indeed
01:05:16determined
01:05:17to
01:05:18respond
01:05:19and
01:05:19to
01:05:19respond
01:05:20toughly
01:05:21to
01:05:21this
01:05:22and
01:05:23the
01:05:23report
01:05:24the
01:05:24information
01:05:25i've
01:05:25got
01:05:25is
01:05:26that
01:05:27apparently
01:05:27in
01:05:29fact
01:05:29i've
01:05:32discussed
01:05:33this
01:05:33in
01:05:33the
01:05:33past
01:05:34i've
01:05:34even
01:05:34written
01:05:35about
01:05:35this
01:05:35issue
01:05:36by the
01:05:36way
01:05:36apparently
01:05:38well
01:05:39in
01:05:39fact
01:05:39in
01:05:40russia
01:05:40there
01:05:41is
01:05:41a
01:05:41law
01:05:42which
01:05:44actually
01:05:44prohibits
01:05:45senior
01:05:46russian
01:05:46officials
01:05:47including
01:05:47president
01:05:48putin
01:05:48from
01:05:49ordering
01:05:50assassinations
01:05:52except
01:05:54in
01:05:56circumstances
01:05:57where
01:05:58a
01:05:59specific
01:05:59procedure
01:06:00is
01:06:02enacted
01:06:02which
01:06:04requires
01:06:05as i
01:06:05recall
01:06:06confirmation
01:06:07of the
01:06:08decision
01:06:08approval
01:06:09of the
01:06:09decision
01:06:10this is
01:06:10a secret
01:06:11approval
01:06:13of a
01:06:14secret
01:06:15request
01:06:16for
01:06:17authority
01:06:18to
01:06:18assassinate
01:06:21or
01:06:21carry out
01:06:23an extrajudicial
01:06:24execution
01:06:25of some
01:06:26individual
01:06:27the permission
01:06:28needs to be
01:06:29provided
01:06:29by a
01:06:31senior body
01:06:32in russia
01:06:33which
01:06:33from memory
01:06:35i believe
01:06:36is connected
01:06:37to the
01:06:38federation
01:06:39council
01:06:39the upper
01:06:40house of
01:06:40the russian
01:06:41parliament
01:06:41anyway i
01:06:43have now
01:06:43been informed
01:06:44that putin
01:06:46has indeed
01:06:47made
01:06:47precisely
01:06:48such a
01:06:49request
01:06:50that certain
01:06:51senior ukrainian
01:06:53officials and i'm not
01:06:54going to make
01:06:54guesses as to
01:06:56who they might
01:06:56be have been
01:06:58so designated
01:06:59and that this
01:07:01request has now
01:07:03been conveyed
01:07:04to the
01:07:05relevant
01:07:06committee
01:07:07and of course
01:07:10its approval
01:07:11almost certainly
01:07:12is a
01:07:13formality
01:07:14as to how
01:07:16the russians
01:07:18will execute
01:07:18this
01:07:19decree
01:07:21once it
01:07:22is made
01:07:23and it
01:07:24will probably
01:07:25be made
01:07:26in secret
01:07:27it will probably
01:07:28not be made
01:07:28public just
01:07:29to say
01:07:30as to how
01:07:31the russians
01:07:31will execute
01:07:32it is of
01:07:33course something
01:07:34i have no
01:07:35idea about
01:07:36i am told
01:07:38by the same
01:07:39source
01:07:39that there is
01:07:41immense
01:07:41anger
01:07:42in russia
01:07:43about the
01:07:45incident with
01:07:45the train
01:07:46the attack
01:07:48on the train
01:07:48and that
01:07:51there is
01:07:51a feeling
01:07:53that
01:07:55if
01:07:55the
01:07:57targeted
01:07:58individuals
01:07:59within the
01:08:00ukrainian
01:08:00leadership
01:08:01are
01:08:03have to be
01:08:04taken out
01:08:05and that
01:08:06this means
01:08:07that
01:08:08others
01:08:09are caught
01:08:12up
01:08:12in the
01:08:14attack
01:08:14well
01:08:16that is
01:08:17something that
01:08:18the russians
01:08:19might actually
01:08:21be prepared
01:08:21to do
01:08:22it's
01:08:23rather
01:08:23chilling
01:08:24but of
01:08:25course
01:08:25it's not
01:08:27unusual
01:08:28the united
01:08:29states for
01:08:30example
01:08:30has itself
01:08:31shown a
01:08:32certain
01:08:33willingness
01:08:33to go
01:08:34after people
01:08:35who it
01:08:36judges
01:08:36capable of
01:08:37or involved
01:08:38in terrorist
01:08:39acts
01:08:39and it's
01:08:41done so
01:08:42without perhaps
01:08:43showing a
01:08:44huge amount
01:08:45of concern
01:08:46for
01:08:47others
01:08:48who might
01:08:49be caught
01:08:49up
01:08:50in whatever
01:08:51operation
01:08:52is involved
01:08:54anyway
01:08:55i want to
01:08:56stress
01:08:57i obtained
01:08:57this information
01:08:58from somebody
01:09:00who
01:09:01is
01:09:03informed
01:09:04about
01:09:05these things
01:09:06i don't know
01:09:07for a fact
01:09:08that it is
01:09:09true
01:09:09i cannot
01:09:10possibly know
01:09:11as i said
01:09:12putin
01:09:13and his
01:09:13officials
01:09:14most certainly
01:09:15would not
01:09:16discuss
01:09:17such
01:09:18a thing
01:09:19with me
01:09:20but if
01:09:21we see
01:09:21someone
01:09:22within the
01:09:24ukrainian
01:09:25leadership
01:09:25targeted
01:09:27in this
01:09:27way by
01:09:28the
01:09:28russians
01:09:28at some
01:09:30point
01:09:30over the
01:09:31next few
01:09:31weeks
01:09:32or months
01:09:33perhaps we
01:09:35should not
01:09:36be surprised
01:09:36i'm going
01:09:38to suggest
01:09:38that even
01:09:39though
01:09:39there is a
01:09:40certain amount
01:09:41of secrecy
01:09:41behind all
01:09:42of this
01:09:42putin's
01:09:44recent
01:09:44comments
01:09:45the comments
01:09:46that he
01:09:47made
01:09:47over the
01:09:48course of
01:09:48the meeting
01:09:49when he
01:09:49spoke to
01:09:50medinsky
01:09:50and lavrov
01:09:52made it
01:09:53already i
01:09:54think
01:09:54pretty clear
01:09:56that this
01:09:57is the
01:09:58direction
01:09:58that decision
01:10:00making
01:10:00in russia
01:10:01is taking
01:10:02well this
01:10:04is where
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