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Ozymandias' victory was more water-tight than you think.

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00:00While the hero doesn't always come out on top in movies, it's generally made abundantly clear when the bad guy wins, right?
00:07Well, every so often, movies get a little bit more sly and subtle about the villain's victory,
00:12perhaps because they don't want to downplay the hero's successes or make the movie a pure downer.
00:18Yet, all the same, and following up on our last video on the subject,
00:21I'm Ewan, this is War Culture, and here are 8 more movie villains you didn't realize actually won.
00:278. Robert Callahan, Big Hero 6
00:31Big Hero 6's villain is a masked man known as Yo-Kai, later revealed to be Professor Robert Callahan,
00:37played by the always brilliant James Cromwell, who faked his death as part of a revenge plot against tech madman Aleister Cray, Alan Tudyk.
00:44And though Callahan is ultimately arrested at the end of the movie, he straight up accomplished everything that he set out to do.
00:51He obliterated Cray's HQ by reactivating the teleportation portal, and most importantly,
00:56he got his daughter Abigail back, who disappeared while working as a test pilot on one of Cray's portal experiments.
01:03All in all, a few years in jail for executing his plan as intended is probably a pretty acceptable trade-off for Callahan,
01:10especially as he rescued his beloved daughter.
01:13It's just a shame that the plan inadvertently led to the death of protagonist Hero's older brother Tadashi,
01:19which Callahan at least expresses regret for.
01:22Even so, the outcome for Callahan was absolutely a net positive.
01:26Number 7.
01:27Azog the Defiler
01:28The Hobbit, The Battle of the Five Armies
01:30In Peter Jackson's less-than-necessary Hobbit trilogy,
01:34Orc War Chief Azog the Defiler's plan was to wipe out the male bloodline of Durin by killing Thorin Oakenshield
01:40and his nephews, Feli and Kili.
01:43And in the third film, The Battle of the Five Armies, he absolutely succeeds.
01:47Sure, Azog also dies during his final battle on the ice with Thorin,
01:52but it's certainly anything but a victory for the Dwarven King,
01:56who also perishes from his wounds moments later.
01:59This was Azog's personal quest from the outset of the trilogy.
02:02He took an oath and, damn it, he followed through, even at the cost of his own life.
02:07And while the films might brush it under the carpet in pursuit of a more triumphant, crowd-pleasing climax,
02:12Azog totally succeeded in wiping out Thorin's bloodline just as he swore he would.
02:19If that's not winning, then what is?
02:22Number 6.
02:23Freddy Krueger
02:24A Nightmare on Elm Street 4, The Dream Master
02:26Though it's fair to say that Robert England's Freddy Krueger just loves to torment young folk through their dreams,
02:32his wider operating goal since the start of the series has been to kill off the children of the parents
02:38who banded together and killed him in revenge for murdering 20 local children all those years ago.
02:44And in A Nightmare on Elm Street 4, The Dream Master, Freddy finally follows through with his quest,
02:49killing the so-called last of the Elm Street children, Kristen Parker,
02:53who was burned to death midway through the movie.
02:56Kristen herself even hammers the point home by telling Freddy moments before her demise that she is the last.
03:02And while the series, of course, continued on for many more installments,
03:06for the franchise's midway point, Freddy had effectively accomplished his main mission.
03:11The rest of the souls he claims after that point are just gravy, basically,
03:15and no matter how many times he's defeated in the subsequent movies,
03:18nobody can take away from him the fact that he killed all of the original Elm Street children.
03:23Number 5.
03:24President Snow
03:25The Hunger Games Mockingjay Part 2
03:28Granted, there aren't many movie villains who get ripped apart by an angry mob
03:32and could still genuinely claim to coming out on top,
03:35but The Hunger Games' President Snow, Donald Sutherland, is no ordinary villain.
03:40Though Snow is murdered by a rabble of irate citizens in Mockingjay Part 2,
03:44this comes at the end of a long, successful, and enriched life.
03:49He got to live many, many decades as the autocratic ruler of Panem,
03:54and through Katniss' actions, not only avoids an official, formal execution,
03:59he also gets to see his nemesis, President Coyne, get murdered by her before he dies.
04:05Even accepting Snow's own brutal death, he literally goes out laughing,
04:10knowing that he managed to talk Katniss into killing his enemy,
04:13robbing her of the power she so desperately craved before he himself was finished off.
04:18It may be a pyrrhic victory for Snow, but it's a victory nonetheless.
04:234. Terrence Fletcher
04:25Whiplash
04:26Whiplash seemingly ends with jazz drummer Andrew Nyman, played by a career-best Miles Teller,
04:32triumphing over his abusive former instructor Terrence Fletcher, J.K. Simmons,
04:37by leading the band in a mesmerizing performance of the jazz standard caravan.
04:40This is despite Fletcher's attempts to publicly embarrass him by having the band first play a song
04:46that Andrew doesn't know.
04:48However, even beyond the debates about whether Andrew pushed himself too far in the pursuit of
04:54greatness, didn't Fletcher ultimately get what he really wanted? His own Charlie Parker.
04:59A few scenes earlier, Fletcher laments to Andrew that despite his efforts,
05:03he was never able to mould his own Charlie Parker, a genuine musical prodigy formed by his harsh,
05:09if we're being kind, methods.
05:11But with Andrew's stunning final performance, Fletcher finally got it.
05:15Andrew may think he was the real winner by subverting Fletcher's plan to embarrass him on
05:20stage, but all it did was push Andrew to give the best rendition of his life
05:24and fulfil Fletcher's own twisted ambition.
05:273. Richmond Valentine
05:30Kingsman, The Secret Service
05:32Now, to be completely fair, Kingsman's villain, Richmond Valentine, Samuel Jackson,
05:37absolutely did not want to die at the end.
05:40But all the same, he was ultimately far more successful in pulling off his population curbing
05:46plan than the movie's ending or its sequel would have you believe.
05:50Valentine's hilariously over-the-top scheme involved giving away free SIM cards to everyone
05:54on Earth before transmitting a signal which would turn them murderously violent, all in
05:59the pursuit of whittling down the population and stemming global warming.
06:03We see a brief display of this potential and Valentine activates a signal in the third
06:08act, causing absolute chaos around the world until the signal is stopped.
06:13People instantly start fighting and killing each other, with even parents, including Eggsy's
06:18own mother, trying to kill their own kids.
06:20And yet, director Matthew Vaughn kind of glosses over the fallout at the end of the film, the
06:25matter that surely millions, even tens of hundreds of millions of people would have been killed
06:31globally, especially the young, old, and vulnerable.
06:35Even with the signal only being active for such a short time, Valentine likely wiped out
06:39a decent portion of the world's population.
06:41Number 2, Ozymandias, Watchman.
06:44Plenty of spirited debate, shall we say, about whether Ozymandias is Watchman's true villain
06:50or not, but, you know, the guy kind of sort of murders 15 million people in his quest to
06:56unite the world against a common enemy, Dr. Manhattan.
06:59And that's not exactly heroic.
07:01There's absolutely a cruel, perverse logic to his actions, which are at least initially
07:06shown to completely succeed.
07:09The world does unite together, Manhattan is exiled from Earth, and the single dissenting
07:15hero, Rorschach, is even killed by Manhattan on his way out of the door.
07:20Some will point to the film's final scene, where Rorschach's journal ends up in the hands
07:25of a New York tabloid, as proof that Ozymandias' ruse will eventually be exposed.
07:30But think about it, who's gonna believe it?
07:32The scrawlings of a deranged vigilante have considerably less credibility than a retired
07:37superhero turned businessman, especially when published by a cranky paranoid tabloid.
07:42As such, it's incredibly likely that humanity at large would posthumously dismiss Rorschach
07:47as a fringe lunatic conspiracy theorist, and Ozymandias wouldn't face any major repercussions
07:53for his actions.
07:54He won in pretty much every way that matters.
07:57And number one, Khan Noonien Singh, Star Trek II, The Wrath of Khan.
08:02Ricardo Montalban's iconic villain, Khan Noonien Singh, may not survive the events of the
08:07greatest Star Trek movie, Wrath of Khan, but he nevertheless fulfills his primary objective
08:12to, in his own words, do something far worse than kill Captain Kirk.
08:18Hurt him and hurt him bad.
08:20Khan's actions end up severely damaging the Enterprise, in turn causing Spock's sacrificial
08:26death, and in Kirk's quest to resurrect Spock in the third film, also leads to the death
08:31of Kirk's son, David.
08:33On top of that, the precious Genesis device is destroyed, a ton of Starfleet personnel
08:38are dead, and because Kirk kills Klingon Kruger, Christopher Lloyd, in the third movie's
08:44climax, Klingons now hate him forevermore.
08:46And I mean, relatable, I'd also kind of hate you if you killed Klingon Christopher Lloyd.
08:51Sorry, Bill Shatner.
08:52And yeah, that's a big old mess that Khan created for Kirk, and consequently, a lot of pain,
08:58even long after Khan himself is dead.
09:01Khan cuts Kirk, and he cuts him deep.
09:04No matter that he didn't actually kill the guy, instead he left him to live and experience
09:09the full feeling of his pain.
09:11And those were 8 more movie villains you didn't realise actually won.
09:15Any villains you feel secretly handed a big fan out to their opponents in a given film?
09:19Shout them out down in the comments below.
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09:25Either way, thank you all for watching, I've been Ewan, this has been WhatCulture, and
09:29I'll hopefully catch you next time.
09:31Bye!

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