- 6/6/2025
The Israeli opposition drops a political bombshell, accusing Prime Minister Netanyahu of arming ISIS-linked groups to help defeat Hamas in Gaza — with Bibi brushing it off, asking, "What's the problem?" Meanwhile, Pentagon chief pressures NATO allies to pay more for Ukraine, as the alliance struggles to meet funding demands. 💸 At home, Elon Musk and Donald Trump go head-to-head, trading personal jabs after clashing over a controversial U.S. spending bill. A global storm of politics, power plays, and public feuds — explained!
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00:00Now, the Israeli Prime Minister has admitted his country backs anti-Hamas gangs inside of Gaza,
00:08with Benjamin Netanyahu saying that he sees nothing wrong with that.
00:13Well, it's very serious because Lieberman is the one who leaked it.
00:16What did he leak and publish based on the advice of security officials?
00:20We activated clans in Gaza that oppose Hamas.
00:23What's wrong with that?
00:24It's purely a good thing.
00:26It only saves the lives of IDF soldiers.
00:29But publishing this information benefits Hamas only.
00:32Yet Lieberman doesn't care.
00:35The Prime Minister's response came after an Israeli lawmaker accused his country's Prime Minister
00:41of sponsoring and arming ISIS-linked groups in Gaza as part of the effort to defeat Hamas.
00:49The Netanyahu concept is to constantly build something to oppose something.
00:53He nourished Hamas as a counterforce to the Palestinian administration.
00:59We saw how it all ended.
01:01And the same is happening here.
01:03He's building a system against Hamas.
01:05He's building ISIS, a clan of criminals that in the past years wanted to give themselves an ideology.
01:12They wanted to be Satanists.
01:13They started to associate themselves with ISIS.
01:16So today, the state of Israel is providing weapons to an ISIS gang to build them as a countermeasure
01:23to Hamas.
01:24Well, a new scandal is exploding in Israel, and this one strikes at the heart of national
01:29security.
01:29In an interview with Khan 11 on Thursday, former Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman dropped a political bombshell.
01:37He accused Prime Minister Netanyahu of arming extremist militias inside Gaza, violent Sunni groups linked to ISIS.
01:45They alleged logic to weaken Hamas from within by backing its enemies on the ground.
01:50According to reports, Israelis supplied Kalashnikov rifles, many originally seized from Hamas stockpiles, made their way into the hands of these
01:58Gaza-based tribes.
02:00The operation was allegedly backed by Israeli security services and approved politically, but without formal government
02:07oversight and without checks on where exactly the weapons might end up.
02:13And how does the Prime Minister's office respond to these explosive claims?
02:17Notably, they don't deny them.
02:19Instead, they issued a carefully worded response, interpreted by many as tacit confirmation.
02:26Israel is working on defeating Hamas in various ways, using the recommendations of all the heads of the security
02:31establishment.
02:33But what exactly those diverse means include and whether they involve arming jihadist militias is now at the center of a
02:40political firestorm.
02:41Here is what we know, both from open sources and our own, which we cannot identify.
02:46Israel is indeed cooperating with a Gaza-based armed group known as the Yasser Abu-Shabaab militia.
02:54Its leader recently appeared in a video announcing the formation of a new armed force in the Gaza Strip.
02:59The group operates primarily in Rafan, southern Gaza, now under IDF control.
03:05It's unclear whether these are the exact militants Liberman referred to, but what follows is where things get more and more interesting.
03:13Palestinian sources allege that Abu-Shabaab's group is cooperating not only with Israel, but also with the Gaza
03:20Humanitarian Foundation, the logistics contractor behind the new U.S.-backed aid initiative.
03:26In just eight days, it delivered over seven million meals into Gaza, starving Gaza.
03:32But the operation has been marred by deadly incidents.
03:35As you remember, we have been covering them.
03:37At least two shooting episodes near aid lines this week left dozens dead.
03:43It remains unclear who fired the shots.
03:46Hamas blamed Israel.
03:47The Israeli army admitted firing in just one case, but didn't confirm any casualties.
03:53They released drone footage to clear their name, showing musked gunmen walking through the crowd,
03:59by the way, in areas supposedly secured by Israel and its U.S. partners, suggesting Hamas is obstructing access to food.
04:07In the most recent statement, the army repeated this narrative, citing local residents inside Gaza.
04:13But now, with new claims surfacing about Israeli-linked militias operating inside Gaza,
04:20the picture becomes more complicated.
04:22And here's a chilling possibility.
04:24Could the gunmen, seeing near the food lines, be part of this same armed group Israel is now cooperating with?
04:31We can only speculate.
04:33Lieberman, meanwhile, isn't backing down.
04:35Already after the interview, he posted this blistering statement online.
04:40Take a listen.
04:40The prime minister, during the events of October 7, learned nothing and still continues with this same concept
04:48that led us to the greatest massacre in the country's history.
04:52Netanyahu nurtured Hamas for years and refused to listen to me when I said that by doing so,
04:58he was seriously harming the security of the state of Israel.
05:02Currently, he is repeating the exact same mistake and transferring weapons to ISIS-affiliated clans in Gaza.
05:09It's a strong critique, not just of Netanyahu's tactics, but of the entire doctrine of proxy warfare
05:16that time and again has blown up in the faces of those who used it.
05:20And the parallels are hard to ignore.
05:22In the 1980s, Israel quietly supported the rise of Hamas in Gaza,
05:27seeing it as a counterweight to the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
05:30And that strategy, as we all know, backfired catastrophically.
05:34Hamas grew, turned on Israel, and ultimately led the October 7th attacks.
05:39And Lieberman is not the only one.
05:41Other prominent opposition voices joined the warning.
05:44Netanyahu, who transferred billions to Hamas in suitcases of cash,
05:51out of the mistaken concept that Hamas is an asset and that it will end in disaster,
05:57is now promoting a new dangerous concept, arming a Gazan militia with ties to ISIS.
06:03Netanyahu is dangerous to Israel's security.
06:06Instead of bringing about a deal, making arrangements with the moderate Sunni Axis,
06:12and returning the hostages and security to Israeli citizens,
06:17he is creating a new ticking time bomb in Gaza.
06:20After Netanyahu finished handing over millions of dollars to Hamas,
06:24he moved on to supplying weapons to groups in Gaza affiliated with ISIS,
06:29all improvised, with no strategic planning, and all leading to more disasters.
06:33Weapons that enter Gaza will eventually be turned against IDF soldiers and Israeli civilians.
06:40Hamas also reacted, saying Lieberman's statement reveals a dangerous truth about Israel
06:45that aims to create a state of security and spread chaos in Gaza.
06:51Take a listen.
06:52The statements by the chairman of the Yisrael Beitenu party, Avigdor Lieberman,
06:57reveal an irrefutable and dangerous fact,
06:59which is the arming by the Israeli occupation army of criminal gangs in Gaza,
07:04with the aim of creating a security and community chaos,
07:07and marketing the occupation's projects to engineer starvation and organize theft of humanitarian aid.
07:14Now, critics say the government is repeating history.
07:17Even if the goal is to break Hamas,
07:20arm-infringed factions and flooding the street with weapons
07:23is a gamble that could spiral out of control for sure.
07:26There is the moral and political cost of fighting terror with terror.
07:30From U.S. support for the Mujahideen in the 80s
07:33to Israel's early tolerance of Hamas,
07:36history shows again and again arming extremists for short-term gain
07:40leads to long-term chaos.
07:43And tonight, it's not just Netanyahu's actions under scrutiny,
07:47it's his judgment.
07:48Journalist and the Israeli studies expert Khaldun Bahuti fears that history could be about to repeat itself.
07:59I think Netanyahu is trying to answer the question that he has been asked along this war about the next day.
08:07What, how should the next day look like in Gaza?
08:11And now he's trying to bring a new force that is called Abu Shabab group
08:17to take place in Gaza, to replace Hamas in Gaza.
08:23But it seems that he's facing a lot of criticism in Israel itself.
08:29He's repeating the history, and it was brought out by some Israeli analysts,
08:35even in the channel that is pro-Netanyahu channel, that is channel 14,
08:39that he's repeating the history of Israel experience in Lebanon.
08:44They went into Lebanon to support the Christian talangs during the Lebanese civil war,
08:50and then they had to stay there for more than 18 years.
08:54And when they fled out, their allies followed them, and they escaped from Lebanon.
08:59And now they are seeing Israel and Netanyahu is leading Israel to this experience again.
09:06Every day Israeli soldiers will be targeted and may be killed,
09:10like what we saw in the last two days.
09:13Israel has to keep thousands of soldiers on the ground in Gaza,
09:19and the ability for Israel to defeat Hamas is still, it seems, impossible now
09:26by a lot of Israeli retired military and security leaders.
09:33They say that Israel is leading to a chaos that will, like, return back to Israel itself.
09:43And switching gears now, there was no U.S. defense secretary
09:47at a recent meeting of the Rammstein Group.
09:50It's the first time the official hasn't been present
09:52since the Ukraine support group was set up back in 2022.
09:57However, Pete Hegseth was on hand in Brussels the following day
10:00to make sure Washington's message is clear,
10:03that America's priorities have changed.
10:07We're going to make sure we shift properly to the Indo-Pacific
10:10and reestablish deterrence there.
10:12And then we're going to increase burden sharing across the world.
10:15America can't be everywhere all the time, nor should we be.
10:18It's also prudent that we review that force posture in real time
10:22alongside our allies and partners to make sure it's right-sized.
10:25So I don't want to get ahead of the president's decision on that,
10:28but we're reviewing everything.
10:29It can't just be U.S. capabilities.
10:32So the United States is proud to be here, to stand with our allies,
10:36but our message is going to continue to be clear.
10:39It's deterrence and peace through strength, but it can't be reliance.
10:43It cannot and will not be reliance on America.
10:47From the beginning of this administration,
10:48worked with our British and German counterparts
10:51for them to take the lead of that contact group,
10:54which they've done, and I appreciate that.
10:57The NATO defense minister's meeting is designed to lay the ground
11:01for the alliance's upcoming summit in The Hague.
11:05And he said, use the platform to reiterate Trump's call
11:08for every member country to be spending 5% of their GDP on defense.
11:13But it seems that's a price few are willing to pay,
11:17despite the pro-war drums European leaders are currently beating against Russia.
11:23I'd like to ask Secretary Healy, you haven't even been able to give
11:27a clear-cut commitment on 3%, so are you worried you're going to disappoint
11:31your U.S. allies on this?
11:33No, we will enter the discussions at the summit.
11:39The commitments that we make are valued as capabilities to this coalition.
11:46NATO and NATO allies, including the U.S.,
11:50value what the U.K. brings to NATO.
11:53When will Germany commit to 5%?
11:58By when, what sort of timetable are you looking at if you even commit that?
12:01There is nobody who really postulates 5% by anybody from now on,
12:07because this is really unrealistic.
12:10What we are talking about is to increase the percentage in the years to come.
12:15This is possible and certainly needed.
12:17So, where will the European leaders find the funds after complaining that U.S. expenditure demands are impossible?
12:26And the NATO Secretary General suggested a scheme which leaves defense spending at just 3.5%.
12:32But I have a cunning plan for that.
12:35And the cunning plan is that, and this is different from what we did with the Welsh pledge,
12:41that nations will commit to yearly plans showing the increase each year to make sure that you come to the new target of 5%.
12:50Ultimately, being 3.5% of GDP for core defense spending.
12:55This is based on what I thought costs to meet the new capability targets that ministers have just agreed.
13:01And 1.5% of GDP per year in defense and security related investments like infrastructure and industry.
13:09Now, leader of the British Communist Party, Dr. Ranjit Brahe, says that the conflict in Ukraine is a NATO war,
13:18as without its direct participation, Kiev couldn't fight.
13:21The reality is, NATO as a force is crumbling.
13:28And when it loses the battle, because de facto, whatever they say about they haven't taken Ukraine into NATO,
13:36de facto, not de jure, not legally, but in actuality, they have made it part of NATO.
13:42They had a coup, they've installed a regime, they are funding and supplying its weapons,
13:47they are fighting the war, they're giving it intelligence.
13:49If they don't have direct participation, Ukraine can't fight.
13:52So this is a NATO war. It's already a NATO war.
13:55And when they lose that war, NATO will be shaken and NATO will crumble.
13:59What's the response to that?
14:01You know, a sensible man, a sane man, when he can't win a battle and he's in a hole,
14:05he would stop digging, he would stop fighting, he would try and seek peace.
14:09But, you know, it's a mistake to think that just because these people have the prime ministerial titles,
14:14they're some kind of colleagues of President Putin.
14:17They're not colleagues. They're implacable enemies.
14:20In terms of actually being ready for war, it's a fantasy.
14:23I actually don't think that the conditions exist, like World War I and World War II,
14:28where the people of Britain or most of Europe, certainly Western Europe,
14:31who lived wealthy, privileged lives of relative comfort and ease,
14:37I don't think they're going to be able to mobilize these people to fight.
14:40I don't think it's in their interests, and I don't think they have the ability to do it.
14:44And to the United States now, Washington's biggest bromance is over,
14:51with relations between Elon Musk and Donald Trump spectacularly imploding.
14:56And the pair are now locked in a bitter and very public feud,
15:00just days after the billionaire stepped down from his government role.
15:04Musk quickly turned on the administration, taking aim at the president's budget bill.
15:09But that was criticism Trump didn't take lying down.
15:14So RT correspondent, Omaa Maitha, joins me right here in the studio to help make sense of all of this.
15:20So, Omaa, this is quite a spectacular fallout between the two.
15:24Can you walk us through what this is all about?
15:27So this all started due to the big, beautiful bill, as Trump calls it,
15:32that's been passed by the House of Representatives recently.
15:36Now, among other things, the reason behind this clash, according to Trump,
15:40is because of the electric vehicle mandate part of the bill.
15:44It essentially takes a shot at the EV or electric vehicle tax credit,
15:50which would mean that Americans would lose the ability to claim the EV tax credit
15:55as soon as 2026 if passed by the Senate,
15:59which in turn would mean that electric vehicle owners would be charged more than hybrid owners annually
16:06if the bill is passed.
16:08Now, Tesla CEO Elon Musk slammed the bill in general,
16:13and Donald Trump fired back, saying that he is disappointed by Musk's reaction.
16:19And he says that the bill was shown to Elon Musk previously,
16:22and he has had no issues with it until it came to the EV mandate part of the bill.
16:28That is something that Elon Musk denies.
16:33Elon's upset because we took the EV mandate,
16:36which was a lot of money for electric vehicles,
16:40and they're having a hard time, the electric vehicles,
16:43and they want us to pay billions of dollars in subsidy.
16:47And, you know, Elon knew this from the beginning.
16:51He knew it for a long time ago.
16:53Whatever.
16:54Keep the EV solar incentive cuts in the bill,
16:57even though no oil and gas subsidies are touched.
16:59Very unfair.
17:00But ditch the mountain of disgusting pork in the bill.
17:03I'm very disappointed in Elon.
17:05I've helped Elon a lot.
17:06Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here,
17:11better than you people.
17:12He knew everything about it.
17:13He had no problem with it.
17:14All of a sudden, he had a problem, and he only developed the problem
17:17when he found out that we're going to have to cut the EV mandate.
17:20False.
17:21This bill was never shown to me even once,
17:23and was passed in the dead of night so fast
17:25that almost no one in Congress could even read it.
17:28Now, Elon Musk has been critical of this bill.
17:32He called it a disgusting abomination
17:34for how much he will increase national deficit.
17:37In short, Donald Trump says that this bill would be great for the economy,
17:41and Elon Musk disagrees with that.
17:43The U.S. president even went on to hint
17:45that this should have been done a long time ago,
17:48during Biden's administration.
17:50But this drama did not stop just there,
17:52because both took to social media with a back and forth,
17:56and within hours, Tesla's stock plummeted,
17:59and Elon Musk came out claiming that
18:02Trump would have never won the election without his support.
18:06On top of that, he even went on as far as to accuse Donald Trump
18:10of being involved with convicted sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.
18:15Now, that's something that Trump has denied in the past,
18:17and so far, there has been no proof of it being true either.
18:22Now, let's just take a look at the escalation here.
18:25Elon was wearing thin.
18:29I asked him to leave.
18:30I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars
18:34that nobody else wanted,
18:36that he knew for months I was going to do,
18:38and he just went crazy.
18:41Such an obvious lie.
18:42So sad.
18:43The easiest way to save money in our budget,
18:46billions and billions of dollars,
18:48is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts.
18:51I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it.
18:55This just gets better and better.
18:57Go ahead.
18:58Make my day.
18:59Time to drop the really big bomb.
19:01Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.
19:04That is the real reason they have not been made public.
19:07Have a nice day, DJT.
19:09Now, despite this whole drama,
19:11while the bill has passed the House of Representatives,
19:14it still needs to pass the Senate.
19:16So it could get a little bit awkward between Musk and Trump
19:18if it does not get past that final stage
19:22because, you know, both men seemed inseparable
19:25during Trump's presidential campaign.
19:27And, of course, this whole situation
19:29has amused people on social media.
19:34I wish Biden were alive to see this.
19:42Enjoy this moment, everyone.
19:44Sooner or later, Hillary's going to post about it,
19:46and it'll stop being funny.
19:52Damn it.
19:53Now, what am I going to do with this?
19:57One of the most magical days in the history of this app.
20:00Easily top five.
20:03Well, we all wait to see how this drama continues to unfold.
20:07Oh, my, my, each are bringing us up to speed here.
20:10Great.
20:11Moving on now, China's President Xi Jinping
20:15held a phone conversation with Donald Trump on Thursday.
20:19And despite current tensions between the two countries,
20:22they seem to have found some common ground.
20:26Now, let's discuss this live now with senior fellow
20:29at the Pangol Institution,
20:32Tsingduo Shu, joining me right here.
20:35So, Tsingduo, I'm glad to have you join me now.
20:37So, China and the United States have recently been locked in a trade war
20:41with both sides slapping, crippling tariffs on each other.
20:46How important is this call amid such a high tension?
20:49Well, I think we came to a point,
20:54remembering that Donald Trump, you know,
20:57post on Twitter, basically, at midnight,
21:01early morning, actually, you know,
21:03half past two o'clock in the early morning,
21:06complaining how hard Xi Jinping is, you know, to deal with.
21:10That means the U.S. is under severe pressure
21:13because of the export control of rare earth from the Chinese side.
21:17As a response to the very negative measures from the U.S.,
21:21you know, including revoking the visas of Chinese students
21:24and also including the complete ban of the Chinese chips,
21:28even including the Chinese market.
21:30That's nonsense, right?
21:31And so, of course, there's a strong response from the Chinese side.
21:35And then the U.S. side, they feel the heat, obviously,
21:38and they suffer of their, let's say, a lot of factories over there.
21:43So that's why I think that prompted, basically, you know,
21:48he made a call with President Xi Jinping to smooth over this.
21:53And see, now we have a problem.
21:54We have a Geneva agreement to deal with the problems.
21:58And now there's another problem.
21:59So we need to, you know, move forward and how to solve this problem.
22:04This is basically about trade, as Donald Trump said.
22:06Now, what does this call between the world's major economies mean for the global community?
22:16Well, I think, you know, if you take a look at the response from the U.S. market,
22:22initial response, obviously, it, you know, it ticked up,
22:25just like what happened right after the Geneva consensus agreement between the two sides
22:30to back off from this tariff war, right?
22:33So that means, like, as long as the two sides are having dialogue,
22:38as long as the two sides are communicating with each other in a way, you know,
22:42in a way of working together to solve their problems,
22:45and then usually there is an optimism we can find in the stock market, in the economy,
22:51including the international community, you know, as the two largest economy,
22:54in particular from the United States, you know.
22:56So if they stop the tariff war and working together with China and other economies,
23:02and the world would become a whole lot better, peaceful, stable,
23:06and then we can continue to have this, you know, win-win trade relationship
23:11between China and other countries, the United States and other countries, right?
23:17That's everybody benefits from that kind of stable relationship between the two largest economy.
23:22And then secondly, I think it shows that in the two economies, in a sense,
23:27they are interdependent, a very complex relationship.
23:32But, you know, after the U.S. side tried to impose as high as 145% tariff on the Chinese goods,
23:40and then they backed off from that and revealed a truth,
23:43that is, the interdependence, you know, is there.
23:47And however, you know, the U.S. denies, however they try to decouple from the Chinese economy,
23:55it is impossible, it is unlikely.
23:58And that's the reality.
23:59I think Washington is gradually realizing the reality,
24:02and they need to work with the Chinese side, work with the Chinese side,
24:06you know, under the principle of mutual respect, inequality,
24:10and in the spirit of, you know, both sides benefit from this relationship.
24:14Now, President Xi has also called for the U.S. to cancel all negative measures imposed on China.
24:23How likely is that to happen?
24:26Good question.
24:28On this point, I'm not that optimistic, unless Washington, you know, changes its mind.
24:35Remember, the whole tariff war or trade war or export restrictions from the U.S. side, in particular,
24:43you know, on the high-tech exports to China market,
24:47is really about the, you know, the U.S., let's say, the mind side.
24:51You know, they want to maintain a global primacy.
24:55They want to be number one, and they want to be number one permanently, forever.
24:58And for that purpose, when you see China catching up, and catching up quickly,
25:05there's this kind of fear, this kind of fear of complexity in Washington,
25:10inside the beltway, and politicians on both sides of Congress,
25:14either Democrats or Republicans.
25:16You know, the one thing that is, you know, the two sides agree with each other
25:21is to slow down the Chinese growth, is to slow down the Chinese innovation,
25:25is to keep China down.
25:27So, for that purpose, either Biden administration or the Trump administration,
25:31they have done all kinds of, let's say, unjustified and also unjust measures
25:38against the Chinese side.
25:39But what we have found out is that, you know, for example,
25:43the export control of chips, basically, they ban U.S. companies
25:47and also companies from Japan, South Korea, Netherlands, et cetera,
25:51from doing business with the Chinese side,
25:53from exporting advanced tools to produce chips to the Chinese side.
25:58But what we are finding out is that, actually, China is catching up quickly.
26:02I mean, still catching up quickly.
26:04Of course, you know, there's a lot of explanation,
26:07the 1.1 billion large population,
26:09and, you know, hundreds of thousands of these STEM graduates,
26:14engineers in the Chinese market.
26:16Of course, they are capable of being innovative.
26:20And, of course, you have the deep seek moment, for example.
26:23I think that's a clear failure of the U.S. export control of the U.S.
26:27containment policy.
26:29I think, you know, unless they're changing their mind,
26:32stop trying to contain China,
26:34stop trying to sabotage the Chinese development.
26:37And I think the two countries will sit down and solve
26:40and remove all those barriers of trade and people-to-people exchange.
26:45That will be truly, that will be the moment
26:48of the change of the relationship or improvement,
26:52substantial improvement of the relationship between the two sides.
26:55All right, talking about relationship,
26:58President Xi also mentioned the Taiwan question
27:01and called for the U.S. to stop supporting separatists on the island.
27:05Do you expect Washington to step away from Taipei
27:08in order to improve trade with China?
27:13I think that's a good point.
27:16You know, there's a talk of, like, a grand bargain
27:18between Beijing and Washington.
27:20For example, you know, Beijing may make some concessions
27:24in exchange for Washington to give up the control of Taiwan
27:29or the support of the separatist activities in the island.
27:33I think for your viewers, Taiwan question is the core
27:37of the core interests of the Chinese side.
27:40And that's the most sensitive issue for the Chinese side.
27:44You know, it's about the sovereignty.
27:45It's about territorial integrity.
27:46And Beijing, you know, will not make any concessions on that point.
27:54So, you know, just, you know, last week,
27:57the U.S. Defense Secretary, Pete Hexas,
28:00in the Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore,
28:03he talked about the view, like, they see China as a real threat,
28:06they see China as an imminent threat.
28:08You know, that kind of China threat, you know, hype up,
28:13obviously is not well-received in Beijing.
28:16People here are not happy with the U.S. side.
28:19You know, like, the U.S. appears to be ready
28:23or prepared to fight a war over Taiwan with China
28:26and to interfere with the Chinese efforts
28:30to reunify with the island in a peaceful manner.
28:34So that's, you know, for the Chinese side,
28:36that's a very important issue.
28:38And duly, the Chinese side, you know,
28:41did mention the issue with Donald Trump.
28:43You know, you have to understand this issue
28:45and don't try to create trouble or problem over Taiwan.
28:49And in that respect, you know,
28:51we have to remove that barrier first
28:54in order to have a, I would say,
28:56stable relationship in terms of trade.
28:59But so far, we don't see a grand bargain
29:02upcoming between the two sides.
29:05Probably it's too far, too early to see that, at least.
29:09And I think also there's no good reason.
29:13I mean, there's no justifiable explanation for the U.S. side
29:17to stop the Chinese on both sides of the Taiwan street
29:21to finally reunify with each other for a better future
29:26for the rejuvenation of the Chinese people.
29:29All right.
29:29We have to leave you here now.
29:31Tsing Duoshu, the senior fellow at Pangol Institution,
29:34thank you so much for your insight.
29:39Right.
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