トム・クルーズ、山崎貴監督『ゴジラ』新作に歓喜！熱い思いをぶつけ合う！映画『ミッション：インポッシブル／ファイナル・レコニング』トム・クルーズ×山崎貴監督対談
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00:00オペーション
00:30ずっと誰も携わらなかった
00:31本当に集大成としてのミッションにポスティブルの大成功を確信しました
00:36カングラチュレーション
00:37Thank you very much. Thank you. It was a great honor for me.
00:41And it was an honor that you were there.
00:43Really, really amazing filmmaker.
00:46Beautiful story teller. It's fantastic.
00:48We both love movies and entertaining audiences
00:51and doing things that are new.
00:54You know, taking a story and what some people think that what it might be
00:58and making it such a different story and personal.
01:03その言葉をもうそのまま返したい
01:05Thank you.
01:07昨日見ててももうずっとこのピンチをどうやって乗り越えていくんだっていう瞬間
01:11もう絶対不可能な瞬間を作りながら
01:14ギリギリの方法でしかも説得力のある方法で乗り越えていくプロセスが
01:18本当すごかったし
01:20普通の映画でそれが1回2回あるだけでも
01:23作りとしては素晴らしいと感じるものなんだけど
01:26それがもう何回も何回も何回も何回も何回もあって
01:29Wow!
01:33あの同じ映画を作っている意味としては
01:36嫉妬を感じるほど素晴らしい瞬間がたくさんあって
01:40Now it's your turn.
01:42We inspire each other.
01:43It goes back and forth.
01:44昨日の映画を見て
01:47今ちょうど準備している最中なんです
01:49次のゴジラの映画を
01:50打ち替えって自分のセナリオを読み直しながら
01:54もうミッションに負けるわけにいけない負けたわけにいけないって
01:57ものすごい逃走心が起き起こりました
02:00Good!
02:01We inspire each other.
02:03That's it!
02:20私たちに連れてきて大ヒットしなきゃいけないっていう
02:22ものすごい困難を背負わされながら
02:24血みどろになりながらそれを乗り越えている感じが
02:27そのインサーハントの物語の向こう側に
02:29トムさんのストーリーが見えてしまって
02:32もうそれも感動しました
02:33もうでも本当素晴らしい
02:37あれほどの大変な状況
02:39単純に映画の中の大変な状況というよりは
02:42撮影がおそらくものすごく大変だったこと
02:44それも一つじゃないものすごくたくさんのものを
02:47全部乗り越えながら作っていくのが
02:50全部その映画の面白さに
02:52全部貢献している
02:55映画を面白くするためにあれほどの苦労をしている
02:58っていうところがバンバン伝わってきて
03:00Yes!Yes!Yes!Yes!Yes!Yes!
03:04Here we go!
03:05Yes!You understand!
03:08本当にそれでも泣きそうになりました
03:11Thank you.You understand?
03:13I have a saying that pressure is a privilege
03:17and so I take it on and I tell everyone that I work with
03:22pressure is a privilege
03:24じゃあ僕も特権を感じながら
03:26ゴジラを作ることにしよう
03:27Yes!You're going to feel a lot of that
03:28You're going to feel very privileged on your movie
03:31オミッションシリーズはずっと見てきましたけど
03:33常にお客さんの期待を上回るアクションを提供しながら
03:40何より素晴らしいのは物語が素晴らしいことが
03:44どうしてもやっぱりアクション重視の映画になっちゃうと
03:47どうしてもアクションを追いかける映画になってしまいがちながら
03:49イーサン・ハントの物語としてものすごく感情に訴えかけてくるものがある
03:56これは映画作ってるとよく分かるんだけど
03:57簡単にできることじゃない
03:59イーサンというキャラクターに対して感情移入してくるし
04:03ご自身の年齢の重ね方に合わせた変化が
04:07それが本当に素晴らしいなと思っていて
04:08特に今回の映画で素晴らしいなと思ったのは
04:11イーサンが辛そうなところがすごくたくさんある
04:14それがものすごい映画に膨らみを出してるんですよね
04:20ものすごい身体能力の高かった時より
04:23少し衰えてきてるんだけど
04:25あの困難なミッションを乗り越えるところが
04:28もう本当に多分同じくらいの歳なんだけど
04:31すごいって思ってから
04:36その後もう5回ぐらいすごいって思う時間が続くんで
04:39もう勘弁する勘弁する
04:42Thank you
04:43Thank you
04:45That is storytelling. It's
04:47You know, the films that I've studied that influence me
04:51Singing in the rain, Fantasia, the silent films
04:55So many movies. The whole thing, even since I was very young
05:01It's the character and story is the most important
05:05So that if we're looking for motion with action
05:08How do I invest the character into that action
05:12And you do that so well also, so well
05:14You invest me in the character
05:16So now when I'm watching the motion and the action
05:19I'm invested in the characters
05:22With action, like a dance sequence
05:28I'm looking at what's the story and the character
05:30of bringing the characters together
05:32Or pulling the characters apart
05:34Or feeling a progression very quickly
05:37With the character
05:38So that kind of I'm looking at motion and how that creates an emotional reaction
05:43In an audience
05:45So those things that I'm constantly, even when I was younger
05:48I was always like you have to invest in the character
05:51Let the story evolve with that
05:53So all of these things that, you know, that we work towards
06:01And you know, finding those moments
06:03We can write it down, but it's the actor, it's the frame, it's the setting
06:08It's our structure of the script that builds those pieces
06:14And the mission movies, you look at it, they're very, very detailed
06:17I can do, you know, a character Magnolia or, you know, where it's playing out in scenes
06:25You know, you have to be very judicious
06:28And I'm always looking for how fast can I invest the audience in the characters, in the world
06:35And I start out, I have, you know, in the first minutes of the movie
06:40We're making agreements with the audience
06:44Teaching them how to look at the movie
06:46How to view the film
06:48It's a promise
06:50That I'm gonna give you this
06:52And I always want to work to pay off that promise
06:56I'm looking at how
06:58How can I take and keep inventing for audiences
07:03I've just, I've never taken it for granted
07:05And I'm thinking about the world when I'm making a movie
07:09Ever since I was young, I traveled the world watching movies with them
07:13To understand how to communicate stories
07:17Not for the world
07:19Whatever kind of story I'm trying to tell
07:21And that's something that's always in my mind
07:24What is a film gonna play like here in Japan or in any other country
07:29Trying to make the story in a manner and telling it in a way that
07:34That we're getting what we want across
07:36But that we can communicate it where people will invest in it
07:39Yeah, I'm always looking at what tools we have as storytellers
07:43And what story do we want to tell
07:45And what effect are we creating on the audience
07:48So I'm always thinking about it as a storyteller, the actor
07:53And then at times I'm being the audience
07:55And looking at, am I using the tools to create the effect that I want to on the audience
08:01So we have the script but we're constantly developing and I'm watching it
08:05And I'm trying to be the audience also
08:08When I was very young, I was 18, I was making my first film
08:12And I didn't go to school for movies
08:15But the director and the producer was making a movie called Taps
08:18And they knew I was going to every department
08:20And I was studying every department
08:22How do they do their jobs
08:23And I wasn't just asking, I was working in those
08:26Everything, the writer, the director, the editor, costumes, production, stunts
08:32Stunts, I was studying everything
08:34And he put me down
08:35And they allowed me to see rushes
08:37And they made scenes and the director said
08:40This is, you're going to watch yourself
08:43This, these shots are in the movie
08:45But I want you to look at it like you're the audience
08:47Not you watching yourself
08:49But be the audience watching this
08:51And train yourself to do it
08:53That was very very helpful and I never forgot it
08:56So I'm not absorbed when I'm watching myself
08:59I'm looking at it from the point of view of
09:01Is it communicating to the audience
09:03Whatever it is
09:04Not just myself, but our overall story
09:06And I go to acting school
09:08I basically teach myself and I study
09:11Thank you
09:12We don't want the audience to watch the movie
09:14We want them to experience the movie
09:16You know, I want them to
09:18Yes
09:19Yes, yes, the big screen
09:22And the visual and the characters
09:25But like you understand
09:26I've got to care about the characters
09:28劇場にお客さん来てもらいたいし
09:30あの…体験…体験できるような劇場だと思うんですよね
09:33Yes, me too
09:34そういう意味ではでも
09:35ミッションみたいなものが
09:36その戦闘を走ってくれてるんで
09:38やっぱり劇場にお客さんがガーッと戻ってくる
09:41非常に重要な役を果たしてる
09:44映画界もっと感謝すべきだ
09:47No, and you too
09:48Because look, we just have to make movies
09:50That audiences want to see
09:52And that we make them for them
09:54And there's the unique experience
09:57Of going to a cinema
09:59Where we're all experiencing
10:02The same thing together
10:04It's so beautiful
10:05And it's our job
10:06To make the best possible films we can
10:08And communicate to that audience
10:10And do it
10:11Yes, and we help each other
10:13And inspire each other
10:15And inspire the audience
10:17And they inspire us
10:18It goes back and forth
10:19You know
10:20Yeah, we went to Ghibli
10:22We went to Ghibli for
10:24To see that
10:25This is Christopher Macquarie
10:26Nice to meet you
10:27Congratulations
10:28Honored to meet you
10:29Thank you
10:30It was a fantastic conversation
10:32About storytelling
10:33How challenging
10:34It's like the mission of possible movies are
10:36It's like making the movie
10:38It is
10:39It is
10:40It is
10:41We have that
10:43We have that experience
10:44And how it reflects in the movies
10:46About the challenges
10:47To overcome them
10:48Watching it is
10:49It is very much like
10:50Making it
10:51Tomoには話しましたけど
10:53昨日の観客の反応量も
10:55成功は確実されているから
10:58本当におめでとうございます
11:00あれを一緒に見えたら
11:01本当に良かった
11:02みんながずーっと拍手している
11:04We're very grateful
11:06出て行った後のお客さんたちが
11:08みんなもう興奮して話し合ってる
11:09あれはもう映画が面白かった
11:11何よりの証拠だ
11:13And he's working on his sequel
11:16To Godzilla
11:17To Godzilla
11:18Yes
11:19So he went home last night
11:20He was going through a script
11:22That's exactly what we would do
11:24Yes
11:25After we watch your movie
11:26After we watch your movie
11:27That's exactly
11:28Yes I told him
11:29We love it
11:30We inspire each other
11:31This is what it's about
11:32I'm like
11:33I love that feeling
11:34It's like okay
11:35It's great
11:36Oh my god
11:37The movie is very beautiful
11:38Very human
11:39And human
11:40It was great
11:41It was really wonderful
11:42You reinvented the genre
11:43It was fantastic
11:45Perfect
11:47Yes
11:51That is our mission
11:53Yes
11:54Yes
11:55Yes
11:56Yes
11:57And we're going to work very very hard
11:58That's what we're doing
11:59Non-stop working very hard to do that
12:01You know with the missions and Top Gun
12:04The other films that we're working on
12:06We're going to do it
12:07We are doing it
12:08If we give
12:09We are doing it
12:10We give them the movies
12:11They're going to come
12:12Thank you
12:13Thank you
12:14It is a privilege
12:15Yeah it's so fun
12:16We love getting together with our artist friends
12:19And having this discussion
12:21So have this discussion with you
12:23Is a dream come true for us
12:25Yes
12:26And please know
12:27If there's anything we can ever do to help you
12:29Do not hesitate to ask
12:31Oh
12:32Yes
12:33Yes
12:34Please
12:35And also today having this conversation is very fulfilling
12:38It's a highlight
12:39Yeah
12:40It's a highlight
12:41Yes
12:42Because we share the same reality
12:45Yes
12:46And dedication and passion
12:47And hard work
12:48Yes
12:49And hard work
12:50Very hard work
12:51We know it
12:52Yes
12:53Not afraid of hard work
12:54Thank you so much
12:55Thank you so much
12:56That was awesome
12:57That was awesome
12:58That was awesome
12:59This is fantastic
13:00Thank you
13:01Thank you
13:02MISSION IMPOSSIBLE
13:03FINAL RECORDING