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Ben Cline Asks Secretary Howard Lutnick What US Will Do If The EU Tries To Regulate American AI
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At a House Appropriations Committee hearing on Thursday, Rep. Ben Cline (R-VA) questioned Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick about EU regulations for American tech companies in the EU.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Secretary, I appreciate you being here.
00:04
As you've highlighted concerns about the potential for unfair treatment of American tech companies
00:08
in the EU, which could potentially force them to make costly operational changes, can you
00:13
share with us some of the steps the U.S. government is taking to promote a level playing field
00:18
and prevent discriminatory practices like excessive fines and forced business model
00:22
changes under regulations like their Digital Markets Act?
00:26
This is a key topic for us in our trade negotiations with the European Union.
00:35
We have a huge trade deficit in goods with the European Union, $235 billion.
00:41
So they are just getting great advantage of us.
00:45
And so part of our reciprocity is they also attack our great technology companies because
00:51
they don't have them.
00:52
So they write these bills, but basically they could just write America in the bill because
00:58
they're only attacking great American companies.
01:00
And it is the Trump administration's view that that is unacceptable, that if you want to have
01:07
a trade deal with us, you're going to take your foot off of the necks of the great American
01:12
companies and treat them with respect, especially if you're taking this much advantage from us.
01:17
So we are looking at that as a one combined way of thinking.
01:23
And that's why we get calls from American companies that say, thank God someone is finally
01:28
looking out for us.
01:30
Can you elaborate on what steps the U.S. would take if the EU tries to regulate American AI
01:34
through DMA or other regulatory means?
01:37
I think the president has made it clear that he views trade and that they have a $235 billion
01:46
trade surplus with us.
01:49
And he will say, well, if you're going to treat us poorly, we're going to treat you poorly.
01:54
And if you want to treat us well, we'll treat you well.
01:58
Let's be reciprocal in how we treat each other.
02:01
You're taking advantage of us.
02:03
And I think the president will make sure, since we are the inventor of all of the leading
02:08
AI chips of the world, we, America, are the inventors.
02:13
We create it all.
02:14
We make them in Taiwan.
02:16
That's another topic.
02:17
But we invent it all.
02:19
We need to protect our intellectual property.
02:22
And we need to make sure our compute power is here in America.
02:26
Mr. Secretary, in your testimony, you mentioned the removal of more than 50,000 fraudulent
02:31
goods and services from the trademark register.
02:34
Can you expound upon your efforts to counter trademark fraudsters, especially those that are
02:39
foreign entities?
02:41
What is common is that a great American company puts a trademark out, or even a young American
02:47
company.
02:48
And these other companies, and generally China is the leader in it, but they're not exclusively.
02:54
They then file thousands of trademarks, modifying it slightly, all around it, and sort of circle
03:01
you and circle you, and use our laws against us.
03:04
And so the idea is for us to bring technology to the patent office, find them all, and get
03:10
rid of them so that we can protect our American company's trademarks and make it proper instead
03:16
of being sort of surrounded by these AI-created trademarks.
03:20
And that's the technology.
03:21
We'll bring it to the patent office.
03:23
Because the Commerce Department is going to be so much more technologically capable when
03:28
we are done with this administration.
03:30
You won't be able to recognize it as compared to what was there before.
03:34
Let me ask you about the BEAD program.
03:36
Yesterday, you told our Senate colleagues that states must choose the cheapest option under
03:40
the BEAD program.
03:42
Under the previous administration, we know mismanagement and misguided attempts at policy outcomes like
03:46
rate regulation significantly slowed the implementation of that program.
03:49
Can you comment as to what steps you're taking to deliver on what the previous president was
03:55
unable to do?
03:56
And can you clarify how you define cheapest option?
04:00
Sure.
04:00
The Congress authorized broadband access to cross-American.
04:06
And I want to make sure we get the benefit of the bargain, which means there's three ways you can do it.
04:11
You can do it by fiber.
04:13
You can do it by what's called fixed wireless, like Wi-Fi, we all understand.
04:17
And, of course, there's satellite.
04:19
Whichever is the most efficient option to get somebody broadband, that should be the only rule.
04:27
Let's have the outcome be the determiner.
04:30
And if it's a tie, then, of course, we don't care at all which one you pick.
04:35
But don't run fiber.
04:36
They had proposals where they were running $100,000 fiber to a house that was appraised at $100,000.
04:46
That's silly.
04:47
So whichever is reasonable.
04:49
So what we've asked all the states to do is rebid just with reasonable technology.
04:57
And then we'll get the money out the door.
04:59
In the calendar year, 2025, the Biden administration had 30 months, and they got zero out the door.
05:06
So that's the difference between the Trump administration and the Biden administration.
05:09
We will get the money out the door.
05:10
Thank you for keeping the taxpayers in mind.
05:12
Appreciate it.
05:12
Yield back.
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