00:00And you were just suggesting there, I just want to pick up on this, that the word genocide is now becoming more common as a word to describe the situation in Gaza, in a way being normalized to describe that situation in the corridors of power around the world. Is that basically what you're saying?
00:20Yes, I think so. I mean, it's a word that has a precise legal meaning that has been defined in judgments by international courts. It also has a word, it's a word that has a broader meaning. I think in the general public, people would understand that it's a very serious allegation, but they might not be aware of the detailed nature of the legal definition.
00:45The legal definition requires a deliberate, intentional act aimed at destroying, physically destroying a group. And that is something that has become increasingly characteristic of this conflict, where it seems increasingly clear that the current leaders of Israel want to enlarge the borders of the country by annexing the West Bank and Gaza,
01:13that they cannot do this as long as the Arab Palestinian population remains, because it will form the majority of any larger state that is created, and that they have to get rid of them.
01:28But as we've seen in earlier genocides, one can think of the Holocaust or the Shoah, one can think of Rwanda, the borders are in effect closed, there's nowhere for people to go.
01:41And so physical destruction is the order of the day, and we're seeing lots of evidence of that.
01:48So this is why the term is quite appropriate in a legal sense, aside from the fact that there's this apparent momentum growing for using it also in a more popular or less, you know, in a less professional way, but simply as a way of describing horror or outrage.
