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  • 6/3/2025
David Warrick, EVP at Overhaul, joined Brittany Lewis on "Forbes Newsroom" to discuss which businesses are more vulnerable to President Trump's tariffs.
Transcript
00:00And companies, I feel like, have layers upon layers now of this uncertainty that they have
00:05to kind of juggle with, hey, we're looking at negotiations and we're seeing how that's going.
00:10Hey, we know that President Trump really on a dime can pause, stop, threaten tariffs really
00:16on any country he wants. And that's what he's been doing for now. Plus, on top of this legal
00:20battle of are the tariffs unlawful? Are they not? And as you said, there are other ways President
00:25Trump can impose tariffs. So even if this is deemed unlawful, he can go about it another way.
00:31So do you think or are there certain industries rather that are more vulnerable right now than
00:36other ones? I mean, I think that obviously anybody who is very dependent on manufacturing in China
00:43has really been feeling the pain and has been going through a lot of challenge. At the same time,
00:51I do feel that the small businesses are going to feel the biggest impact. And this is across
00:58the board. In food and beverage, for example, the small business community just don't have the same
01:05buying power. And there's countless examples of small wine importers, toy importers, clothing
01:13and apparel importers. There's numerous stories of great entrepreneurial ideas have put together
01:22small businesses. And suddenly their prices over the last eight weeks have doubled, tripled or gone
01:29just completely to a level where they're not going to be able to produce. And this is buying raw materials
01:38even to bring those into the US to be able to finish them. And there's countless small businesses
01:43are being impacted. It's really hard for them because they don't have the financial wherewithal
01:49to be able to, you know, do too much of the hurry up and wait. They don't stockpile, they're not able
01:55to stockpile inventory, and they're going to be susceptible to whatever the price point is on any
02:01given day. That's where we're going to, that's where we're already starting to see some pain.
02:06And that is going to, that is going to continue until we get some level of balance in these trade
02:12negotiations. And I think something we've seen really in the past two months is that President
02:17Trump isn't just changing and slightly tinkering with trade agreements with a few countries. I mean,
02:22he is completely uprooting global trade as we know it. So from that lens, do you think this changes
02:29what small businesses and the small business community looks like forever?
02:33I think it's definitely a shock. I think it is, you know, the equivalent of a, we would call it a
02:40gray swan event. But, you know, small businesses grow up through immense creativity. And, you know,
02:48I was having a conversation around, you know, the, you know, restaurants and how the restaurant
02:54business, you know, could be impacted. And it really goes to, okay, there's going to be a, you know,
03:00a higher price potentially for certain goods being brought in from Mexico or from Canada.
03:07How does a small business like a restaurant, a family-owned restaurant, how do they cope?
03:11Well, they now have to think about different things. It may be you have to create different
03:15menu options. Maybe you have to create another unique identifier in terms of your customer service.
03:20So there's different ways that small businesses have to think. They have to adapt. They have to change.
03:26And that while maybe unfortunate, that's how they were created in the first place. They saw a need
03:32and they were doing something to be able to actually supply and delight customers with that need.
03:38So I think in the natural evolution, more of that will happen. They will go down that same path.
03:44Only this time it's been because of a forced change. So I do not in any way doubt the creativity
03:50and the innovation that is available in the small business community. Now it's being put to the test
03:55yet again, to be able to this time survive.

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