Before Craig Ferguson was the presenter of The Late Late Show, a film star, a stand-up comedian, he found inspiration in Glasgow in the 1980s.
He went from being a barman at Ubiquitous Chip to being in a band then attempting comedy routines in nightclubs before breakthroughs at the Edinburgh Fringe and at the Tron Theatre in Glasgow set the scene for his move to America and success there.
He shares memories of Glasgow, his first attempts at performing on stage and his relationship with the city now. Craig also shares how he ended up in an episode of Still Game and going into the Maryhill canal.
Craig Ferguson: Pants on Fire is at the O2 Academy Glasgow on Saturday 21 June.
He went from being a barman at Ubiquitous Chip to being in a band then attempting comedy routines in nightclubs before breakthroughs at the Edinburgh Fringe and at the Tron Theatre in Glasgow set the scene for his move to America and success there.
He shares memories of Glasgow, his first attempts at performing on stage and his relationship with the city now. Craig also shares how he ended up in an episode of Still Game and going into the Maryhill canal.
Craig Ferguson: Pants on Fire is at the O2 Academy Glasgow on Saturday 21 June.
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00:00You started off in Springburn, then the family moved to Cumbernauld,
00:04you went to school there, then you kind of found your way back to Glasgow
00:07where you started off with music and a bit of stage work and stuff like that.
00:11Is that a fair summation?
00:14Yeah, absolutely, that's quite right.
00:16I mean, I grew up, you know, in Cumbernauld,
00:19and then when I was about 17 or 18, I met Peter Capaldi
00:26and the rest of the guys in that band, and I joined that band.
00:29They were all about five or six years older than me,
00:32and they were at the School of Art in Glasgow,
00:35so they were, like, very hip and had dyed hair and knew about things,
00:39and I worked behind the counter in the post office in Cumbernauld,
00:43but they soon initiated me in their bizarro ways.
00:48So that's kind of what happened.
00:50I fell in with those guys, and that's what kind of dragged me into the West End.
00:54I still think, by the way, that the West End of Glasgow informs everything I do,
00:58even to this day, you know?
00:59I mean, it's like that late-night show I did with the dancing pantomime horse
01:03and the talking skeleton and all that stuff.
01:05That's just fucking pantomime.
01:06I just nicked all of that from Jerry Kelly.
01:11Yeah.
01:11So you joined all the dreamers in Nico's that were plotting the future of the culture
01:18over some brandy Alexanders and whatnot?
01:22Yeah, I think that was that.
01:24Nico's I could never afford.
01:26We used to go...
01:28Maestro's on...
01:30It was off Suckey Hall Street.
01:31I can't remember the name of the street.
01:32That was the club that everybody went to,
01:35and King Tut's Wabaha was just opening,
01:38and Hurricane's Bar was where everybody drank as well.
01:43I mean, it was quite a scene back then.
01:45I'm sure it exists today, but I don't fart like me
01:48wouldn't they know where to go,
01:49and shouldn't they know where to go either?
01:52It's just an interesting...
01:54Because, you know, like, I don't remember...
01:56I remember the 90s,
01:58and the 90s in Glasgow was built on the backs of people
02:02who dragged Glasgow into Technicolor, basically, in the...
02:06Yeah.
02:07And established Glasgow.
02:10People think of Glasgow now.
02:11Young people in Glasgow now think of it as a place where music happens,
02:15where you can become a stand-up,
02:17where you can make films, you can write books.
02:21That seems to have...
02:24That part of the culture really kind of came through in that 80s period
02:29where people...
02:30I think it did, yeah.
02:31...that that was possible.
02:33What do you remember about being in Glasgow in the 80s
02:36and deciding that you wanted to be, you know,
02:40up on stage doing your own thing?
02:42Did it feel like it was a place that that could happen?
02:45It was funny.
02:46It was almost like...
02:48It was kind of the other way around.
02:49The atmosphere at the time and the people I were running with,
02:53they put me up on stage.
02:54It never occurred to me to go on a stage and be part of that.
02:57It's not part of my family background.
02:59It's not part...
03:00You know, it's just not anything that we did, you know.
03:03So...
03:03But I was running with people who did do that,
03:06and the atmosphere at the time, you're right,
03:08in the 80s it was very...
03:10It was very creative and very...
03:12There was a very collegiate environment, you know,
03:15that Davey Henderson, who was kind of like the unsung hero of all that,
03:20David Henderson, who was the epicenter
03:24running the Hellfire Club recording studios,
03:28you know, in St. George's Cross.
03:32And all the bands, like Ornestuce, were in there,
03:34Aztec Camera were in there,
03:35Mary Chain were in there.
03:37Everybody recorded in there.
03:39Everybody kind of got drunk and had curries together
03:43and talked about how much they loved the Velvet Underground
03:46and all that kind of stuff.
03:47And it was a real...
03:50It was a moment in time.
03:51You're not aware of that stuff being a moment in time at the time.
03:54I mean, how could you be?
03:55But it was very...
03:57It pushed you forward.
03:59I mean, it was...
03:59Peter Capaldi said to me,
04:01you should get up and try stand-up comedy.
04:02I'm like, that doesn't even make sense.
04:04But Peter had albums from, like, Steve Martin
04:09and Richard Pryor and stuff like that.
04:11He understood and he knew about it
04:12and he talked to me about it
04:14and he played me these albums.
04:15And I was like, oh, my God, these guys are hilarious
04:17and this is fun.
04:20So it kind of...
04:23It pushed me.
04:24I didn't...
04:24There was no...
04:25It's funny because when I talk to...
04:28You know, I talk to my own kids
04:29or you talk to other younger people now,
04:30they do have career plans in mind.
04:33And I didn't have any of that.
04:35There wasn't a fucking stand-up club in Glasgow
04:37when I started.
04:38It was...
04:38They would be playing the disc, the music,
04:41and then the guy would stop the music
04:42and then say,
04:43here's how he thinks he's funny.
04:45And I would walk out and...
04:47And so you kind of develop a sort of aggressive style
04:51because it's throw-down time, you know.
04:53But it was...
04:54You know, it was great,
04:56but I'm glad I...
04:58It's probably better now to do it a different way.
05:01But I just loved doing it then.
05:02And it was...
05:02I look back on it very far in my...
05:05Yeah.
05:07Did you have a clear sense that...
05:12Because, you know,
05:12like you were in the band with the art school kids
05:15and, you know,
05:16you'd go out and there'd be people saying
05:17they're going to be an artist,
05:18they're going to be this, that, the other.
05:20Did you have a very clear taste for the stand-up thing
05:23that that was going to be the route
05:24that you were going to follow?
05:25Or do you think that you could have ended up
05:27pursuing the acting first
05:28or staying with music?
05:30I never...
05:31I really...
05:32At that time,
05:33what I was looking for was a profession
05:36that was very forgiving
05:40of excessive alcohol consumption.
05:42And I think that show business then...
05:45It's funny because right now,
05:47now it is absolutely not.
05:48I mean, I think if people know you're a drunk,
05:51you're carted off to rehab
05:53and your Twitter account is frozen
05:54until you get your shit together.
05:56But back then,
05:57it was a very different feeling.
06:00So...
06:01Hang on.
06:03I just want to send this call away.
06:06So, it was...
06:09It was a rammy.
06:12It wasn't...
06:12It wasn't...
06:13It wasn't about getting ahead.
06:17It was about...
06:18It was about where the next thing was happening.
06:20It was...
06:22I mean, I suppose...
06:24I mean, I'm sure I was ambitious.
06:25I just don't remember being like that.
06:27I remember it being more about...
06:32It was a good time.
06:33It was a very kind of...
06:35It was a wild time.
06:36You know,
06:36it was a lot of drinking and staying up late
06:38and singing and shouting.
06:39But it was...
06:40But it was fun, you know.
06:42It felt like fun.
06:45You had that wonderful period in your career
06:48when you were the presenter of The Late Late Show.
06:50And...
06:51During that, you would have...
06:55You know, you did interviews that...
06:57Many of them continue to have a life of their own
07:00on YouTube and stuff like that.
07:02And, you know,
07:03you'd be talking to the biggest stars of the day.
07:05But then, you know,
07:06there was that occasion where...
07:09Well, maybe more than one,
07:10but I re-watched the video again recently
07:13where that wee guy that you used to run about with
07:16in White Street
07:17and fall about the kitchen
07:19where Guitars walks out
07:21an Oscar winner.
07:22And I think that would freak me out more
07:25than sitting interviewing Tom Cruise.
07:27If a guy that I used to know from the dancing
07:29walks out onto my Late Late Show,
07:32like,
07:33did you have that slightly out-of-body experience
07:35when you were like that?
07:36There's that guy from Partick
07:37that used to always get thrown out of the pub or whatever.
07:40There was a couple of times like that.
07:42More...
07:43It was more...
07:43I remember it was once actually with Billy Connolly
07:47that I got it
07:49because I'd met Billy off and on through the years,
07:51but, you know,
07:53but I didn't really get to know him very well.
07:56And then I got to know him a little bit better
07:58when he was on the Late Night Show.
08:01And we were talking backstage,
08:03like you and I are talking now,
08:04and that very kind of relaxed way
08:06is that when you're talking to other Glaswegians,
08:08it's kind of different.
08:08You know what I mean?
08:09And he was like,
08:12could you fucking believe this?
08:13Because people were coming in and bringing lattes
08:15and, you know,
08:16and avocado dip and all that.
08:19And it was...
08:20It was very funny,
08:22but it's strange the way it takes you,
08:25you know?
08:25It takes you to some odd places,
08:28but I think that...
08:31It's good, though.
08:33I think that it's good.
08:34And, I mean,
08:35I always...
08:36I always held...
08:38Billy was always an idol,
08:39to me,
08:40and still is,
08:40you know?
08:41I mean,
08:41and he...
08:43I think meeting him
08:44and getting to know him a bit,
08:46that was a kind of out-of-body experience.
08:48And other guys...
08:49I mean,
08:49I had the same experience
08:50with Robin Williams as well.
08:51I became friends with Robin,
08:52and the...
08:53people that you just kind of kind of believe exist,
08:58that then...
08:59Because I didn't think really famous people were real
09:01until I met them.
09:02You know,
09:02it was an interesting thing.
09:04What's your relationship with Glasgow like now?
09:09You were staying here for a bit,
09:11are you still kind of in and out at Glasgow?
09:13Hi!
09:13Look,
09:14my family are all still there.
09:15I was at my...
09:16I was at my godson's wedding in December
09:18in the south side,
09:20so I'm in and out all the time.
09:22I mean,
09:23it's...
09:23It's Hotel California, Glasgow.
09:27You can check out anything you like,
09:29but you can never leave.
09:31And I think that it's...
09:34You know,
09:36I just end up going back there for a...
09:37My family are all still there,
09:39you know what I mean?
09:39So it's...
09:40It's apart from,
09:41you know,
09:41my wife and kids,
09:42who they live with me,
09:43but the...
09:45But I kind of come in and out.
09:48I don't...
09:48I didn't...
09:48My work wasn't there,
09:49and I hasn't been there for a long time,
09:51but...
09:53But I was always happy to meet him.
09:56I go a lot.
09:57So my relationship is,
09:59I guess,
10:01for the most part,
10:02personal,
10:02not professional,
10:03I suppose,
10:04until this gig coming up,
10:05which I've been...
10:06I'm not sure if it's a great idea or not,
10:08but I'm going to do it anyway.
10:11Do you...
10:12Like,
10:12you know,
10:13you talked about the Glasgow audience.
10:15Do you treat it with an added level of respect
10:19and preparation when you're coming out,
10:20knowing that a Glasgow audience
10:22is sitting there waiting for you?
10:24I think if anyone goes to Glasgow,
10:26any performer on earth
10:27goes to Glasgow
10:28and doesn't treat the audience
10:30with a wee bit more respect
10:31and a wee bit more fucking preparation,
10:33then they're making a big mistake.
10:36I think that
10:37they're the best audiences in the world,
10:40but you...
10:40But you've got to...
10:41You know,
10:42it's...
10:42It's got to be earned.
10:45You've got to...
10:46You cannae phone it in.
10:47You know,
10:48if you do it well,
10:49it'll be great.
10:50But if you phone it in,
10:51they'll tell you.
10:53And...
10:53I mean,
10:54I don't phone it in anyway.
10:56It doesn't matter where I'm playing,
10:57but it's just that
10:57it's on my mind.
10:58It's my...
10:59You know,
10:59I'm from there,
11:00so it's in your head a bit.
11:01When I...
11:02You know,
11:02you talk to New Yorkers
11:03about playing in New York
11:04and they're like,
11:05oh,
11:05fuck,
11:05I'm playing in New York
11:06next week.
11:07And, you know,
11:07it's the same thing
11:08for everybody,
11:08I think.
11:09You play your hometown.
11:13Having spent so much time away,
11:15obviously you still have
11:16that relationship
11:17and, you know,
11:18the streets tend to look
11:20pretty much familiar
11:21when you return.
11:24People tend to be
11:25on the same places
11:26that you left them,
11:27even in Glasgow.
11:29I'm just wondering,
11:30like,
11:31you know,
11:31is there things
11:33that you notice
11:33that are very different
11:34from the version of Glasgow
11:36that you do carry with you
11:37when you come home?
11:39A couple of things.
11:40I mean,
11:42I feel like...
11:44I feel Glasgow's better
11:45than it used to be.
11:47I mean,
11:47especially if you look at
11:49up the West End,
11:51you know,
11:51Finiston and all that.
11:52I mean,
11:53the changes there
11:54since the 80s
11:55are remarkable.
11:56You know,
11:56I mean,
11:56I know there's still
11:57plenty, you know,
11:59work to be done,
12:00but I think Glasgow's
12:01a lot better
12:02than it used to be.
12:02It's a lot...
12:03It seems like a lot
12:04friendlier
12:05and more kind of
12:07cosmopolitan a place
12:08than it used to be.
12:11But maybe that's me,
12:12you know,
12:12I mean,
12:12I don't know.
12:13Maybe I'm friendlier
12:14and more cosmopolitan.
12:16I don't know.
12:17I mean,
12:18it's...
12:18I think,
12:19you know,
12:20my wife and I...
12:21My wife's not from Scotland,
12:22but we always say,
12:24you know,
12:25when you go up and down
12:25the buyer's road,
12:26it's always run about
12:271984,
12:281985
12:28on the buyer's road.
12:30You go into the shops,
12:31it's always like
12:32Depeche Mode
12:33or Deacon Blue
12:34are playing on the stereo.
12:36Everyone's...
12:36It's kind of
12:371984,
12:381985
12:39on the buyer's road
12:40consistently,
12:41which I am very
12:43okay with.
12:44I love that.
12:44I like streets
12:46and buildings
12:48and bars
12:48and cafes
12:49that find their era
12:50and just stick with it.
12:51Yeah.
12:52I feel like...
12:53Somehow I feel like...
12:55I feel like...
12:56I remember once...
12:58It was a very niche tweet
12:59I put when I used to do
13:01Twitter.
13:02I put out a tweet once
13:03about...
13:03Something about
13:04having fond memories
13:06of the ubiquitous chip
13:08because I winched a jakey
13:09once there
13:12on Hogman A,
13:131985.
13:14And I remember
13:15a couple of the Scottish guys
13:17from Game of Thrones
13:18liking the tweet
13:19because nobody else understood it.
13:22But, you know,
13:22but these were like...
13:23That was...
13:24That was something
13:25that connects...
13:26Yeah, I mean,
13:27it's a very specific area
13:29and I come from
13:30a very specific time
13:31in that then as well.
13:35I think I read something about...
13:37Was it...
13:38One of the directors
13:38of the Tron
13:39had kind of told you
13:40that you could be an actor
13:41or giving you some advice
13:43in that direction?
13:43Yeah, Michael Boyd.
13:45It was Michael Boyd
13:46that put me...
13:47That was the first time
13:48I was put in a real theatre.
13:51You know,
13:51Michael,
13:52he passed away
13:53about 18 months ago,
13:54Michael,
13:54but he and I,
13:56you know,
13:57stayed in touch
13:57right to the end
13:58but he was the first guy
14:02that said,
14:03you know,
14:03I was actually working as...
14:04I was a barman
14:05in the upstairs bar
14:06in The Chip
14:07but I was also doing stand-up
14:09like in shitty places
14:12and, you know,
14:13in bars and stuff
14:14and he said,
14:16no,
14:16you should come and do
14:17in the Tron Theatre.
14:18That was the first time
14:18I'd done a theatre theatre,
14:19you know,
14:20like where people sit down
14:21and face the front
14:22and they're not all drunk
14:24and, you know,
14:25and they're not...
14:26It's not...
14:27It's about the stage.
14:28It wasn't about anything else
14:29and I was amazed
14:32at the difference of the feeling
14:34and how much I loved it
14:35but he used to come into
14:38the Chip bar
14:39with a bunch of...
14:40You know,
14:41the arty people
14:42used to drink in the Chip bar
14:43and I was a barman there
14:44so I just kind of got to know them
14:45because of that.
14:48Really.
14:51So, I mean,
14:51that's another good example
14:55which I enjoy
14:57of the way that
14:59Glasgow can be
15:00quite a collegial environment
15:02if you do have
15:03a bit about you.
15:04You know,
15:05like there's plenty of people
15:06that have gone on
15:07to very decent careers
15:08just because someone said,
15:09you know what,
15:10go and rehearse here
15:11or there's an opening
15:13on Monday,
15:13come on,
15:14help.
15:16That's 100%
15:17my experience
15:18there.
15:19It was always like that
15:21and actually
15:22when I,
15:23you know,
15:24when I did what people
15:25did back then
15:25and I went down to London
15:27I was kind of shocked
15:28at how much,
15:29how less friendly
15:32the show,
15:32but yeah,
15:33I mean,
15:34it was like,
15:35nobody was saying,
15:35come on over here
15:36and help out,
15:38you know,
15:38it's like,
15:39it was a little more,
15:41a little more difficult
15:42to get yourself established.
15:46You've done some voice acting
15:47as well
15:47as is your sister.
15:49Do you,
15:49do you,
15:49now count
15:51your accent
15:53as one of your
15:53main attributes,
15:55one of your
15:56main things
15:57going for you in life?
15:59It's funny how
16:00times change
16:01because
16:02for years
16:04I had
16:05producers
16:05and casting people
16:07and other people
16:08telling you
16:09your accent
16:10and you've got to get rid of it,
16:11you have to learn
16:12how to speak without it
16:13or you have to learn
16:14how to speak with a,
16:15you know,
16:16a southern accent
16:17or a New York accent
16:18or an English accent
16:19or a London accent
16:20or whatever it is
16:20and I was never
16:22skillful enough
16:23to do it.
16:24I could do a wee bit,
16:24my accent changes,
16:25but I talk differently
16:26when I'm on American TV
16:27just because I know
16:28I think about it
16:30a little bit
16:30and I think
16:31you slow it down
16:32a little bit
16:32and make sure
16:33you hit the T's
16:34pretty hard.
16:34You know,
16:35I don't think about it
16:36every night
16:36but you get into
16:37the habit of it
16:38and,
16:38you know,
16:40and I've taken
16:40a bit of flack
16:41from,
16:42you know,
16:43people in Glasgow
16:44and saying,
16:45ah,
16:45you changed
16:46your accent
16:46and they go,
16:46well,
16:47they have to
16:47understand me,
16:48I mean,
16:49be fair
16:50and I think
16:52that it's,
16:54it was,
16:56it was something
16:57that people said
16:57for years
16:58was,
17:00was a detriment
17:02to your career
17:02and would try
17:03and,
17:03would stop you
17:04getting ahead
17:05and then,
17:07I don't know
17:08when it changed,
17:08sometime in the late 90s,
17:10maybe Trainspotting,
17:11maybe Braveheart,
17:12maybe around that day
17:13when it started
17:14to be,
17:14you know,
17:15oh,
17:15everybody's Scottish now
17:17and,
17:17you know,
17:18it's like,
17:18like,
17:19okay,
17:20fine.
17:20but it's,
17:23but there are people
17:25who just ploughed through,
17:27Billy always just
17:28ploughed right on through
17:29with that,
17:30I mean,
17:30I mean,
17:31he's the gold standard,
17:32he's the,
17:33he's the,
17:34you know,
17:34the archetype,
17:35he's the main man.
17:37Are there any places
17:38in Glasgow
17:38that when you come home
17:40you always return to
17:41or like places
17:41that you've taken your kids
17:42to kind of show them
17:43the city,
17:45what it means?
17:46Uh,
17:47yeah,
17:48usually
17:48at certain points
17:50I end up,
17:53you know,
17:53always in the Biles Road
17:54because,
17:55you know,
17:55it's,
17:56it's,
17:56and,
17:57you know,
17:57I lived back in Glasgow
17:58for a while,
17:58we had a place back in Glasgow,
18:00I was in Athol Gardens
18:01for a couple of years
18:02when,
18:03because I wanted my youngest
18:04to go to,
18:05you know,
18:05a school in Glasgow
18:06when he was very young
18:07and he did,
18:08he went to,
18:08to school in Glasgow
18:10and,
18:10and the,
18:11the,
18:12you know,
18:14so,
18:14Biles Road
18:15we would go to,
18:16we would always go,
18:17we would always get,
18:18uh,
18:19uh,
18:19Chakoo,
18:20that,
18:21uh,
18:21restaurant,
18:22you know where that,
18:22that's really good,
18:23that restaurant,
18:24uh,
18:25and,
18:26E Sushi
18:27on Biles Road
18:28and the Curry Pot
18:29and the Martin Road
18:30is where I would go
18:31and then we would go to,
18:34uh,
18:34you know,
18:36the,
18:36uh,
18:37you know,
18:37you,
18:37you go and you do
18:38uh,
18:38province lordship
18:39and,
18:40you know,
18:40the Necropolis
18:41and all that kind of stuff
18:42and Kelvin Grove
18:43and then every now
18:45and again
18:45I'll take an American
18:46out to Cumbernaught
18:48and show them
18:49where to go up.
18:51I just wanted to
18:52finish up by asking
18:53about
18:54Still Game.
18:56Um,
18:57it's such,
18:58it's such a part,
19:00like,
19:00even because I spent
19:01a bit of time away
19:02when I came back
19:03I didn't realise
19:04how much this
19:05had tapped into
19:06Scotland's psyche
19:07to,
19:07it's basically
19:07my favourite comedy show.
19:09and it also,
19:12you know,
19:12like,
19:12it really captures
19:13a type of Glasgow humour
19:14that's maybe
19:16kind of like
19:16edging out
19:17or just,
19:17you know,
19:17like,
19:18it's,
19:18it's,
19:18it certainly echoes
19:19of the past.
19:21It's a very soft,
19:21gentle,
19:22uh,
19:24echo of,
19:24like,
19:25you know,
19:26Glasgow circumstances
19:27that we don't necessarily
19:28see as much anymore.
19:29Did you realise
19:30how much of a big deal
19:31it was going to be
19:32and how famous
19:32you would be
19:33with taxi drivers
19:34in Glasgow
19:34after you did it?
19:36Oh,
19:36I fucking knew.
19:37Yeah,
19:37I fucking knew.
19:38What happened was that,
19:39Ford and Greg
19:40were at my house
19:41in Los Angeles
19:41and,
19:43you know,
19:44my,
19:44my youngest
19:45was just a baby
19:46at the time
19:46and when he found out
19:48that Greg was married
19:49to Miss Hooley
19:49from Balamore,
19:50he was like,
19:51that was,
19:52that was the real thing.
19:54But they were,
19:54they were at my house
19:55and we were just,
19:56we were kicking around
19:56some,
19:57I don't know why,
19:58we were just hanging out
19:58and,
19:59um,
20:01and they,
20:01I think it was Ford
20:02that said,
20:03come and do a,
20:04come and do a bit
20:04on the show,
20:05we've got an idea
20:05for you to play
20:06an American
20:06that comes back.
20:08I said,
20:08what?
20:08And he says,
20:08Willie,
20:09he goes away
20:09and he comes back
20:10and it turns out
20:10he's a prick.
20:11I went,
20:12right,
20:13okay,
20:13fuck you.
20:14So,
20:14so I did
20:16and they said,
20:17oh,
20:17it'll not be much,
20:18all you'll have to do
20:19is,
20:20you know,
20:20put some talcum powder
20:21on your hair
20:22and we'll have a tweed jacket.
20:23You'll be in and out
20:24in 10 minutes
20:24and then I get back
20:26and they've got me
20:26with a prosthetic Willie
20:28and wearing a fat suit
20:30and jumping in the canal
20:32and,
20:32eh,
20:33crashing a car
20:34and falling down the stairs
20:36and all this stuff
20:37and I don't,
20:39but I have to say
20:40I had a fucking blast
20:43doing that.
20:43I loved doing that.
20:44And you're right,
20:45it's a great show.
20:46It is a fantastic show
20:48and it does represent
20:49a sort of whimsy,
20:50a sort of,
20:51kind of lovely,
20:53weird,
20:53surreal,
20:54Glasgow humour
20:56that I'm very fond of.
20:59Great.
20:59Thanks very much
21:00for your time,
21:00Craig.
21:01I'll speak to you again.
21:02Thanks Paul.
21:02It was lovely to talk to you.
21:03Bye.
21:04Cheers and out.
21:04Bye.
21:05Bye.
21:05Bye.
21:05Bye.
21:05Bye.
21:05Bye.
21:06Bye.
21:06Bye.
21:06Bye.
21:06Bye.
21:06Bye.