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Norman Reedus & Ian McShane Breakdown Ballerina
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01/06/2025
We caught up with the stars, to talk life, careers and the success of the John Wick movie franchise. Report by Nelsonj. Like us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/itn and follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/itn
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It's not that you almost check, but you come to New York,
00:02
have a lovely five-day, you know, have a lovely week
00:04
over Thanksgiving and whatever, and that's why Willem Dafoe did it.
00:08
You're like, oh, let's go, and then you see her and you're like,
00:10
okay, it's on, we gotta go, you know?
00:12
So, um, it was very impressive to watch her work.
00:16
Any film that's worth its salt, whatever its origin,
00:20
you know, it has to take you away for somewhere,
00:22
for however long it is, the two hours,
00:24
and then deposit you back again, and you go,
00:26
that was a great ride, where were we for two and a half hours?
00:28
Hey, McShane, hello, sir.
00:30
Hello, Johnny, how are you?
00:31
I'm very well, mate, very well.
00:32
I didn't realise you were born in Blackburn.
00:34
I grew up in Blackburn for a long time.
00:35
Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, I was born during the war,
00:40
and my grandma and my grand, Dad was off in the RAF,
00:44
and we all lived in, like, four blocks of each other
00:45
in Freckleton Street, right opposite a Catholic church.
00:48
Then my dad got transferred to Manchester United in 1950.
00:53
What a shame.
00:54
So he moved to Manchester.
00:55
Could have played for Preston.
00:56
Well, I went back, I took my wife to a game back in,
00:58
mind, in 1981, at Ewood Park.
01:03
I was going to ask, how do you find going back up north?
01:05
How often do you get back there?
01:06
I used to go back a lot,
01:08
until my mother sadly passed away in December 2001.
01:13
I'm sorry, 2021.
01:15
So I haven't been back there much,
01:17
except I've got some friends up there,
01:19
and obviously Ferguson's a friend of mine,
01:22
and, you know, I go and see games now and again.
01:24
But, no, it's odd when you've got no,
01:26
suddenly you've got no,
01:28
nobody lives there anymore that you know.
01:31
All friends are dead, or friends, you know,
01:33
close friends or whatever, and your family's gone.
01:35
And it's an odd feeling.
01:36
It's like the connection is, the connection is football.
01:39
That's my connection with Manchester now, basically, you know.
01:42
Yeah, it is strange.
01:43
Whenever you go back anywhere,
01:44
you realise the memories are the people,
01:45
rather than necessarily the places.
01:47
No, Meridus, hello, mate.
01:48
We had a chat many moons ago about The Walking Dead,
01:52
and I always regretted, in that chat,
01:54
not telling you how much I love Boondock Saints,
01:57
the joy that you and Sean, I know,
01:59
you and Sean and Billy Connolly brought to me back in the day.
02:02
Yeah.
02:03
Can't be measured, man.
02:05
So my first question is,
02:07
where the hell are we on part three of that?
02:08
It feels like it's been in purgatory for, like, 15 years.
02:11
Yeah, the third Boondock Saints is being made.
02:14
It's, we have a script that's being massaged right now.
02:17
Yeah.
02:18
We've got good people behind this one.
02:21
Yeah, it's happening.
02:23
I'm taking that as a personal promise.
02:25
Yeah.
02:25
I've got friends to be very disappointed.
02:26
I've been doing Zooms about it since I've been here.
02:29
Awesome, man.
02:30
I can't wait.
02:31
You've been in many things that are my favourite things.
02:34
Hot Rod and Sexy Bees.
02:36
That's a good movie, isn't it?
02:36
I think it's a great movie.
02:38
It's a fun movie and a great soundtrack, too.
02:40
It's a, yeah, really good soundtrack.
02:41
Great soundtrack, yeah.
02:43
What was it?
02:43
John Farnham, you're the, what was it?
02:45
You're the, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
02:47
Can't remember now, but me and my mate used to listen to that, like,
02:49
on the way out of town.
02:49
And Sexy Bees is a great movie.
02:50
Sexy Bees is a great movie.
02:51
Jonathan Glazier did a great job.
02:52
American Gods is great.
02:53
The Pillars of the Earth is, like, really, really good.
02:56
American Gods could have been better.
02:57
I mean, it was a great template.
02:59
I think they could, they screwed it up.
03:01
The studio screwed it up.
03:02
First series.
03:02
First series was unbelievable.
03:03
And then social media got involved, and they got involved with the two writers,
03:07
the two creators who created it, stepped away, and there was a legal thing went on.
03:11
And you go, oh, come on.
03:13
It's never going to be the same.
03:14
Anyway.
03:15
Obviously, great success with Deadwood, and the housewives of the UK will hold lovejoy
03:21
to their hearts, to their dying day.
03:23
Yeah.
03:24
But this character, this franchise, really feels like it's kind of defined this period
03:29
of your career.
03:31
And I wondered, like, do you get sentimental towards characters?
03:35
Does this character mean more to you than others?
03:38
And do you, or is it very much just like, oh, this is a fun job to do?
03:42
No, it means a lot more because I'm very close to Keanu, and obviously in Chad.
03:48
And it is a kind of a family.
03:50
I mean, it's the same people who have been involved with the movies, all of them, since
03:54
2013.
03:55
When we did this independent movie in New York, they sort of went to New York.
04:00
Oh, it's, you know, it's not that you almost check, but you come to New York, have a lovely
04:04
five days, you know, have a lovely week over Thanksgiving and whatever.
04:07
And that's why Willem Dafoe did it, and Michael Nyquist, sadly departed, as is Lance, my
04:16
usual partner, Lance Reddick, who played Sharon.
04:20
But it's been very, and since that time, I remember, I was just talking to somebody, I
04:24
said, you know, a year later, I was making a film in Atlanta.
04:26
And this came out.
04:31
And, you know, you go in, I nipped into the first show around about noon, and the first
04:35
five minutes, you look at it like you do with anything.
04:37
You know within five minutes if it's worked or not, you know.
04:39
And I thought, yeah, Chad filmed the script.
04:42
You must be absolutely buzzing to join a kind of the WIC franchise.
04:45
I mean, it's definitely a dream come true to be part of a John WIC film.
04:49
I mean, I think, you know, actors, if you get that call to be in a John WIC film, it's a
04:54
good day, you know what I mean, so I'm very excited.
04:57
There's a new documentary coming out called WIC is Pain.
05:00
Yeah, I heard about that.
05:01
And then from the little bits I've seen of it, it just seems like this kind of movie is,
05:05
it's brutal to watch, but it's brutal to make as well.
05:08
So I wondered, like, how much of a shock to the system was that on the knees, on the
05:13
elbows, where there are ice packs, like.
05:15
I've been shocking my knees and elbows for a long time now.
05:19
It's a lot of Advil.
05:21
A lot of Advil goes down.
05:22
But you sort of get caught up in the adrenaline while you're in it.
05:27
So you just sort of, you know, keep your chin down and go to work.
05:31
You know what I mean?
05:31
I'm always impressed by the people in these films because it seems so, like, precise.
05:36
You know, you see a lot of action.
05:37
You can think, oh, they've cut there and cut there and cut there and cut there.
05:39
But this just looks like it really would shake you up a bit.
05:43
It's not just a normal day at the office.
05:45
It's a different sort of fighting style.
05:46
You know, these fights are choreographed down to the T for cinema.
05:54
You know, Daryl Dixon and stuff like that, that's a very sloppy fighting style.
05:58
This is a very choreographed thing.
06:00
But you have to sort of do the math for what's exploding around you.
06:05
And that's a sharp bit.
06:06
And, you know, there's a lot of stunts and a lot of choreography going on at the same time.
06:13
And the timing of all of it has to sort of match.
06:15
So it's a very rehearsed process, you know.
06:19
I remember, I think a lot of people remember the first five minutes of John Wick.
06:22
And it's kind of, you're watching it, you think, okay, this could be a paint-by-numbers action movie.
06:25
And then you get this, like, little smile which starts to grow.
06:28
And you're like, okay, there's something kind of self-aware about this.
06:30
And then it just turns into this beautiful, brutal symphony.
06:36
Well, I think, as you said, the slight smile is when it all happens.
06:41
And then a policeman comes to know and says, everything all right, John?
06:45
It's like it's got an odd self-referential without being sort of smug.
06:51
And I think that's worked through the movie when they bring in all these sort of assassins from all over the world
06:56
who are basically fanboys of John Wick.
06:58
There's this whole world of assassins all over the world.
07:02
So any film that's worth its salt, whatever its origin, you know,
07:06
has to take you away for somewhere, for however long it is, the two hours,
07:10
and then deposit you back again.
07:11
And you go, that was a great ride.
07:13
Where were we for two and a half hours?
07:15
And I think they've, excuse me, consistently managed to do that with this franchise in a good way.
07:20
And there's this one, bringing a female dynamic in it was, I think, essential at one point.
07:26
And it's become essential.
07:28
But they've done it in a way that doesn't seem like they just have a woman in it.
07:32
I mean, you've met her before.
07:33
You met her character as a child.
07:35
And then you met, and it's set, this ballerine's set between number three and number four.
07:40
And then you get the backstory because I've known her since she was a kid as well.
07:44
So that's where Winston comes into his own, with a person.
07:48
I mean, I think, you know, I said that, you know, I think John and Eva is two favorite assassins,
07:53
if it's such a ridiculous thing can be said, you know.
07:55
Let's talk about Arna de Armas.
07:57
Sure.
07:57
She's kind of really, she's really making a name of one of the most, like, versatile actors out there at the moment.
08:03
And she, in this movie, obviously, shoulders a lot of the action herself.
08:08
What was it like to see that up close?
08:11
How much fun did you guys have, like, blowing stuff up together?
08:13
It was very impressive to watch her work.
08:15
She gets it down, and she works super hard.
08:19
She's a badass.
08:19
She just kills it in this movie, you know.
08:21
It's one of those things, too, like, you get, you know, and I flew in from France, and, you know,
08:29
then I'd come back, and I'd fly in from France, and I was working the whole time there, and, you know,
08:33
you're like, oh, let's go, and then you see her, and you're like, okay, it's on, we got to go, you know.
08:38
So it was very impressive to watch her work and, like, really get in there, you know.
08:43
She's a killer.
08:45
And finally, like, I don't want to give anything away of the plot, but this is an expanding franchise.
08:49
They're in TV now, they're in movies.
08:52
How much fun would it be to have another roll of the dice here?
08:56
Like, super crazy awesome fun?
08:58
Let's just plant some seeds.
09:00
Plant those trees.
09:01
Long may it continue, mate.
09:02
I'm sure a lot of the actors that come into this are kind of fanboys of what's come before,
09:06
and it just seems like this was a kind of a water test sort of movie to see whether that would work.
09:10
Can you make a movie with another kind of central character?
09:12
And I thought it worked perfectly.
09:15
That's great.
09:16
The flamethrower work and grenade work itself was absolutely like chef's kiss.
09:20
All right, pal, lovely to meet you.
09:22
Good luck with this.
09:23
And very much hoping you rock up for part five as well.
09:26
Let's see what happens.
09:27
Let's see what happens.
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