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  • 5/29/2025
During a House Appropriations Committee hearing before the congressional recess, Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) questioned Army Corps Officials about nuclear waste cleanup efforts.

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00:00I would like to recognize the ranking member, Ms. Kaptur, for five minutes for questions.
00:06Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
00:09Thank you for your testimony.
00:11General Graham, I wanted to ask your help, and you already are helping with your FUSRAP program,
00:20for the areas that have been contaminated around our country.
00:25And one of these is in northwest Ohio, in the town of Lucky, not far from where I grew up and still live today.
00:32The Toledo Blade, over the last couple of months, has done superb reporting on the history of this site
00:39and the horrors done to the workers and surrounding community during the Cold War
00:44as part of the nuclear weapons race under the purview of the former Atomic Energy Commission.
00:50If I, Mr. Chairman, if I could, I'd like to place on the record two important articles from the Blade on this topic.
01:00Without objection, so ordered.
01:02Thank you very much.
01:04General Graham and Ms. Colosimo, as part of this reporting,
01:08the Blade discovered radioactive substances in multiple locations around the Lucky site, which were above normal.
01:14You have been very proactive, thank you, in communicating with me and my staff on this topic.
01:20However, one of the things you told my office was that you had confirmed
01:23that the radioactive materials discovered by the Blade were not related to the Lucky site.
01:29Did we understand that correctly? Is that still your position?
01:33Yes, ma'am, it is.
01:34Okay.
01:35Can you please explain to me what other possible sources of this magnitude of radiation
01:39might be responsible for its presence in this area, if not for the Lucky site?
01:45Ranking Member Kaptur, thank you.
01:47We remain confident that no Foos Rap-related material has migrated off the Lucky site,
01:53and we're committed to a safe remediation of that site.
01:58I understand what happened in St. Louis is a possible analog to what's happening in our area.
02:04In that case, the contamination was migrating through the soil to the water.
02:07Is that a possible explanation here?
02:10Not that I'm aware of.
02:12I'm very concerned about this situation.
02:14We'd like to have more clarity on what's in the water, what's in the soil,
02:17and what the dangers are to this region.
02:20Can you commit to me that you will get the water and soil tested?
02:23Working with our state partners with Ohio EPA,
02:30they're the ones that are currently doing the water testing,
02:33and so we are being absolutely transparent with them with what is on the Lucky site
02:39and our remediation plan.
02:41Can you commit to me that you'll continue to keep us informed of everything that is going on out there,
02:47even to do a public briefing at some point in the region?
02:52Absolutely.
02:53Thank you very much.
02:54I want to change topics to Brandon Road.
02:58The Brandon Road Project is aimed at arresting the economic and environmental damage unleashed
03:03by the unfortunate migration of Asian carp species that will definitely eliminate our massive fishery
03:11if allowed to proceed up into the Great Lakes.
03:14It's vital that the Brandon Road Project proceed in a timely manner.
03:17Could you kindly, General Graham, tell us the status in getting all federal and state entities
03:22on the same page to proceed with the project?
03:26Thank you for that question.
03:29On Brandon Road, the president had signed a memo in support of that on the 9th of May,
03:33and on that same date, Governor Pritzker had a press release saying that his needs are net
03:38and that Illinois is working to get the necessary real estate.
03:42So with that in hand, we released the solicitation for Contract 1A last Friday.
03:49And what that first contract for is for the bubbling system and the acoustic system.
03:55This is part of a multilayered defense.
03:57And so that contract has been released, and once that's awarded and constructed,
04:03that will be the start of fish deterrence, which is great news.
04:06All right, is it possible for your staff to get us the press release
04:11or whatever went out seeking contractors in that area?
04:15Yes, ma'am.
04:16I appreciate that very much.
04:18Do we assume that the fiscal year 2026 budget request will include the full capability
04:25for the Brandon Road Project?
04:31Ma'am, we're certainly going to put forth the best estimate we can
04:33and have the administration consider it.
04:35And we do expect to have FY26 here soon.
04:37But the president signaling his interest in this project and support of it
04:41will be a helpful action there.
04:44Thank you very much.
04:48I'm going to really switch to another subject here.
04:52General Graham, do you share General Spellman's goal of 70% use of dredge material
04:57for beneficial use by 2030?
05:00Absolutely.
05:01You do.
05:03Thank you very much on that.
05:04My time has expired, and thank you so very much for answering our questions this morning.
05:10And thank you, ranking member, captain.
05:12We will have a second round for anybody who would like to ask additional questions.
05:16At this time, I'd like to recognize my friend, Mr. Simpson of Idaho.
05:24Thank you very much for joining us.
05:24Have a great day.
05:31Bye-bye.
05:32I'll be right back.
05:34Well, next time, I'll be right back.

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