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00:009-1-1, what's your emergency?
00:07Hello? I need help. I'm trapped.
00:11Hello?
00:13It's dark. Help.
00:15Ma'am?
00:16Please.
00:17Ma'am, are you still there?
00:22Hey, how you doing?
00:24They just put it right there.
00:27You, uh, you don't look so happy to see me.
00:30I, no, I just, I want to just get this case behind me.
00:33If today's not a good day.
00:34No, it's great. Not a problem. Not a problem.
00:36Great. Let's start at the beginning, then.
00:38When did you meet Abigail Turney?
00:40Uh, that was a few years ago, when she showed up at my door
00:43pretending to be pregnant with my grandchild.
00:45Excuse me?
00:46Abigail and my son Henry met in college.
00:49They got engaged, you know, fast.
00:52Very fast.
00:54Her way of breaking the news to me was to go bigger.
00:57But, um, despite that introduction,
01:00I was charmed by her.
01:02She had walked a tough road, but she had grit.
01:07She was resourceful and driven, and I admire that.
01:10So she and Henry are no longer together.
01:12Yeah, she broke off the engagement, but it was amicable.
01:15You arranged for Abigail to have a ride-along with the LAPD?
01:17Yes.
01:18Yeah, she was considering police work.
01:20I take it that didn't work out.
01:23It did not.
01:25And then six months ago, she was reported missing.
01:27What exactly happened to Abigail?
01:29Look, if you're gonna get to the bottom of what happened to that poor girl,
01:34you're gonna have to have an open mind.
01:38A very open mind.
01:44Police!
01:46I wonder when that happened.
01:49Oh, my God.
01:50Hello? Can you hear me?
01:52When did you get involved in the case?
01:54Uh, not immediately.
01:55Most missing persons cases aren't really cases.
01:58They're a roommate who got too drunk at a bar
02:00and slept it off in his truck,
02:02or a college student whose cell phone ran out of battery.
02:05You know, most of the time,
02:06they show up unharmed and confused about all the fuss.
02:09But this wasn't like that, was it?
02:11No. After a few days of follow-up calls,
02:13we sent officers by Ms. Tierney's apartment for a wellness check.
02:17Thanks again for doing this.
02:19Always a pleasure to see my favorite couple.
02:22Let's keep this professional.
02:23Trouble in paradise?
02:28Sorry. I'm moving on.
02:29What did you find at Abigail's apartment?
02:31Very little. I mean, no signs of a struggle.
02:33Well, there was no sign of her or her film equipment,
02:36but we did find her laptop.
02:37Hold on. Film equipment?
02:38Abigail was making a movie?
02:39Yes.
02:46We should be safe here.
02:47Why are they doing this?
02:49Go. I'll try to buy some time.
02:54No!
02:55No!
02:56No!
02:57No!
03:03Please.
03:05I promise I'll pay.
03:09I'll pay the fine.
03:13I only saw an early cut.
03:15Could have used a bit more gore, if you ask me.
03:17I didn't.
03:18I asked why you thought Abigail's case was so compelling.
03:21Oh, right.
03:22Because her Hollywood dream
03:25had become a Hollywood nightmare.
03:32Would you like me to take that again?
03:33I really wouldn't.
03:34When you searched Abigail's laptop, did you find anything on it?
03:37Yeah. It was filled with all of these unanswered messages.
03:40Nasty ones.
03:41The more we investigated,
03:42it became clear that Abigail had a lot of people angry with her.
03:46Like who?
03:47Okay. Thank you.
03:48Thanks, Steve.
03:50Spielberg.
03:51He's an old friend.
03:52I bet.
03:53How did you get involved with Abigail Tierney?
03:55Oh, well, you know, we're always looking to discover
03:59and nurture the next generation of unheard voices.
04:03Abigail sent in a very compelling pitch video.
04:10Terror isn't something that happens to you.
04:14I mean, it's not every day you find a writer, director, and star
04:17with that much poise.
04:20Hell PD was one of those visionary, artist-driven pictures
04:23that we pride ourselves on making.
04:25And they're the cheapest, too, right?
04:27Well, hey, you know, the lower the budget,
04:29the higher the profit, if it's a hit.
04:31But the budget became an issue.
04:33Yeah.
04:34Abigail pitched us a straightforward horror flick,
04:37but she kept changing directions.
04:40Please.
04:44The reshoots started piling up.
04:48And we had to pull the plug on the project.
04:51What about nurturing a new generation of talent?
04:53Hey, look, there's nurturing and there's indulging.
04:56I'm a businessman. There's no hard feelings.
04:58Really? Because I have an e-mail from you with the subject line,
05:01where the hell is my money, you lying sack?
05:04Okay, yeah, fine.
05:05A few hard feelings.
05:07But they were nothing compared to some of those new producers she found.
05:10Those guys weren't playing around.
05:12Well, without the production company,
05:14Abigail had to turn to crowdfunding.
05:16When Nolan passed along Abigail's pitch video,
05:19I figured, hey, I've always loved scary movies.
05:22And what's the point of having a husband with a trust fund
05:24if you can't use it to support the arts?
05:26And it wasn't just money, was it?
05:28No.
05:29I promise I'll pay.
05:31I'll pay the fine.
05:33Ah!
05:34All right, still rolling. Reset.
05:37Bravo! Bravo!
05:41So Abigail hires you to compose music for her film.
05:44What was it like to work with her?
05:46Complicated.
05:47She's very opinionated, which I respect.
05:51I tried not to take it personally
05:53when she kept throwing out all the music I was writing,
05:55but then when she completely disappeared
05:57and stopped answering my phone calls...
05:59That must have stung.
06:00It did until I learned that she walked off set
06:02and ghosted everybody, not just me.
06:04Then I got worried about her.
06:05I do wish she paid me, though.
06:07Hold up.
06:08You didn't get paid?
06:10Do you count experience?
06:12But it didn't provide you with the breakthrough you hoped.
06:14Even though a lot of crowd funders were furious
06:16that the rewards were going unfulfilled,
06:18their anger didn't manifest into a concrete threat.
06:20From the suspect's perspective, we were back to square one.
06:23Until we discovered that Abigail had made several trips
06:25up to Pelican Bay.
06:26The prison?
06:27Yes.
06:28To visit who?
06:29A serial killer.
06:30Liam Glasser.
06:32In news that should bring some relief to the Southland,
06:35the LAPD have announced a major arrest
06:38charging Lincoln Heights native Liam Glasser
06:40with the murder of ten victims
06:42found buried near the Sepulveda Dam.
06:44Our investigation into Glasser was a challenge.
06:48He used another serial killer, Harrison Novak,
06:51as cover for his crimes,
06:53stashing his victims in Novak's burial ground.
06:56It wasn't until we caught Glasser
06:58attempting to murder a new victim
07:00that we were finally able to put him behind bars.
07:03Before we start,
07:06I just want to make very clear
07:08that I'm an innocent man
07:11and the subject of an extraordinary campaign
07:14of harassment by the LAPD,
07:17particularly Detective Nyla Harper.
07:20You've been charged with the murder of ten people.
07:23Those horrific allegations
07:25have not been proven in a court of law,
07:27and they never will be.
07:29You've also been charged with jury tampering.
07:31If you're just going to railroad me like the police,
07:33this interview is over.
07:35Hold on, hold on.
07:37I'm not here to talk about any of that.
07:39I want to talk about Abigail.
07:41Why did she come see you?
07:46To learn about Westview.
07:48Westview Psychiatric Hospital
07:50was at the center of Glasser's case.
07:52He was a patient?
07:54No, no, but his vending machine company
07:56supplied the hospital,
07:58and he was in and out of there for almost two decades.
08:01And where he found another patient, Ryan Dearborn,
08:03to serve as a patsy.
08:05He used an abandoned building at the psych hospital complex
08:08to torture and kill his victims.
08:10Did Abigail ask about the abandoned ward?
08:12Yes, but I couldn't help her much
08:15because I've never been there myself.
08:17Obviously not.
08:18But I told her what I'd heard,
08:20that the place was haunted,
08:22which is obviously crazy,
08:24but when I was a kid,
08:26I would join my father on his service calls to Westview.
08:28He always told me to stay away from that building.
08:31Something inside
08:33clearly scared the hell out of him,
08:36and he was not a superstitious man.
08:39The thing that we couldn't understand
08:41was how Abigail had found out about Glasser's connection
08:43to the psych ward in the first place.
08:45It wasn't public knowledge?
08:47No, we kept those details away from the press deliberately.
08:49The only people who knew were Glasser and the police,
08:52and obviously Glasser wouldn't admit to being down there.
08:54Which means?
08:56What I don't tell you about making movies
08:58is that it's really boring.
09:00It's worse than surveillance.
09:02Anyway, Abigail and I got to talking
09:04about my recent casework, and it's possible
09:06I may have mentioned something about the psych ward.
09:09From Abigail's notes, we gathered
09:11that she essentially abandoned her movie for a new project.
09:14That was shortly after meeting with Glasser.
09:16Yeah, she felt that fictional storytelling
09:18was disconnected from real, lived experience.
09:21So that's when she decided to make
09:23a true crime documentary about Westview.
09:26
09:31Westview Psychiatric Hospital opened in 1953.
09:35It started as a model of modern, humane care.
09:38But what lies beneath?
09:40The deeper I dug, the more horrors I unearthed.
09:43Mysteries that defied explanation.
09:46How can one hospital spawn two serial killers?
09:49Some might say it's bad luck,
09:51but I don't believe in bad luck.
09:53Mm-mm.
09:55I think there's something rotten here.
09:57Original sin.
09:59And I'm gonna prove it.
10:01The footage on Abigail's hard drive
10:03shows her inside Westview's abandoned ward.
10:05Was that open to the public?
10:07No. After LAPD and FBI finished processing the scene,
10:11the hospital put up a razor wire fence,
10:13hired a security guard for 24-hour surveillance
10:15to keep intruders out.
10:17But that clearly didn't work.
10:19Clearly. So we sent a patrol unit to check in with the guard.
10:22Mr. Deweller! Yeah?
10:24You mean the disappearance of Abigail Tierney?
10:26Uh...
10:28Hey!
10:30♪♪♪♪
10:34♪♪♪♪
10:39♪♪♪♪
10:44♪♪♪♪
10:49Hey!
10:51Stop!
10:53Hands behind your back.
10:55At first, Carl Deweller claimed he did nothing wrong,
10:59that he never met Abigail.
11:01This is it.
11:03But when he searched his office,
11:05it was clear he was lying.
11:08♪♪♪♪
11:12Uh...Nolan?
11:15♪♪♪♪♪
11:19Abigail had become his obsession.
11:22♪♪♪♪♪
11:25Yeah, things didn't look good for Mr. Deweller.
11:28Based on his board, it was clear he had become obsessed
11:31with Abigail, and maybe she rejected his advances
11:34and things went sideways.
11:36It was sobering.
11:38I held out hopes that Abigail might still be alive,
11:41but I'd been on the job long enough
11:43to know that the odds were against that.
11:45Do you know how they first crossed paths?
11:47Actually, it was Abigail that first initiated contact.
11:50She was researching the abandoned psych ward
11:52for a documentary,
11:53and Carl was the nighttime security guard.
11:56She wanted access on the DL,
11:58and she reached out, and she...
12:01Flirted. Flirted.
12:02She flirted with him, and he agreed to let her in.
12:05I just showed her around.
12:07I told her some stories,
12:08things that had gone on there back in the day.
12:11She was impressed.
12:12She actually asked me to help her with her documentary.
12:15Said she'd give me a credit on the film.
12:17Single card.
12:18If you're innocent, why'd you run?
12:20Because I get what it looks like.
12:21I was the last person to see her before she disappeared.
12:24How do you know that?
12:27Because I watched the darkness swallow her up.
12:30You know, I bet they were doing all kinds of sick things
12:32to patients back in the day.
12:34Thinks that would be illegal now.
12:35Yeah. Yeah, I know.
12:36They used to do lobotomies.
12:38One of the Orleys told me about it.
12:39He's worked here for, like, forever.
12:41You think you could introduce me to him?
12:44Uh...
12:46Yeah, I guess.
12:47Uh, just obviously,
12:49I can't tell him that I've let you in here.
12:51Come on, Carl.
12:53I would never rat you out.
12:55We're friends, right?
12:57Did you hear that?
12:59We're friends.
13:01Ah!
13:05Do you hear that?
13:06What? No.
13:08That noise, it's a weird sort of beautiful sound.
13:12You really don't hear it?
13:13No.
13:14No, but this building makes all kinds of weird noises.
13:16Hey, I just gotta go back to the main building radio security
13:19and let them know I'm at my post.
13:20You go ahead. I'm gonna go check this out.
13:22Uh...
13:24What did you make of the sound Abigail described?
13:27We weren't sure.
13:28I mean, Carl claimed to have never heard it.
13:30It's possible that she was faking
13:32to juice up her documentary.
13:34We've actually analyzed some of the audio files
13:36from Carl's video,
13:37isolated the low-end frequencies.
13:39Here.
13:41What is that?
13:43I was hoping you could tell me.
13:45It sounds...
13:46Harmonic.
13:47Is that even a frequency humans can hear?
13:49Not technically, no.
13:54Well, whatever she heard or didn't hear,
13:57Abigail kept searching.
13:59You sure about this?
14:01Yeah, I'll be right back.
14:02Hello? Hello?
14:04Can you hear me?
14:06And that was the last anyone had seen her.
14:09But Carl could have just turned off his camera
14:11and then killed Abigail, right?
14:12We couldn't rule him out as a suspect,
14:14but we only had circumstantial evidence against him.
14:17And as we went through the footage on Abigail's laptop,
14:19we discovered that flirting with Carl
14:21wasn't her only extreme research tactic.
14:23I'm gonna start this.
14:25Should I turn into it?
14:27I'm gonna turn into it.
14:29Okay, I'm back at Westview.
14:32And if I'm gonna learn more
14:33about how the old psych ward operated,
14:35I'm gonna need to see their files.
14:37Obviously, I can't just walk around filming people,
14:40so...
14:44It's a cam.
14:46See?
14:48Okay.
14:51Wish me luck.
14:55Abigail had Carl lure the director away from her office
14:58so Abigail could sneak inside.
15:11Okay.
15:19Yeah, I mean, seeing Rachel's name in Abigail's footage
15:22was definitely a shock.
15:24You both have a history with Ms. Hall, is that right?
15:26Yes, so, uh, she and I went to college together,
15:29and, um, her and Tim...
15:31I'm sorry.
15:33Yeah, we-we used to date.
15:35Before or after you two?
15:37Okay, next question.
15:38I'm simply trying to establish a timeline.
15:41No problem. I'll just ask her later.
15:43I, uh, worked in the psych ward at Westview for a year
15:47while getting my social work degree.
15:49It was, um, challenging.
15:51How so?
15:52Uh, for one thing,
15:54the, uh, patients would often arrive at the facility
15:57with, say, a-a diagnosis of mild depression.
16:00And a week later,
16:01they'd start to exhibit disordered thinking.
16:04Eventually, they might become violent.
16:06The decompensation was sudden and acute.
16:09You're saying they would get worse, not better.
16:11Yes, and conventional treatments seem to never work.
16:14Someone suggested a supernatural presence at Westview.
16:17Could that have impacted the patients?
16:19Uh, well, just because the doctors at Westview
16:22couldn't find a cause for a patient's behavior
16:24doesn't mean there isn't one.
16:26Maybe it's just beyond the capabilities
16:28of modern science to discover.
16:30Or maybe it's demons?
16:32There are no demons at Westview.
16:35There are totally demons at Westview.
16:38What's another explanation for everything that's happened?
16:41We got Liam Glasser, Harrison Novak,
16:43and most recently, uh, Ava...
16:45Maxwell.
16:46Ava Maxwell and Charlotte Russell.
16:48This man came out in a big overcoat,
16:50black mask, big knife.
16:52Hang on a moment.
16:53I-I know that Ava and Charlotte
16:55were never treated at Westview, so what's the connection?
16:57Oh, you didn't hear.
16:58Charlotte's nanny was a patient there when she was a teenager.
17:01Yes, yes, I was at Westview.
17:03I had, um, been having thoughts of self-harm, acting out.
17:07My family was very concerned,
17:09so they arranged for me to receive the best care available.
17:12And did the treatment help?
17:13Not at first.
17:15I'd been experiencing a-a darkness
17:18that I had never felt before,
17:20and at first, I fought it, and then I realized
17:22that struggling only made everything worse,
17:24and once I accepted it,
17:26that's when things started to get better.
17:28And I left Westview, and I finished school,
17:30and I eventually made a little life for myself.
17:33You were the nanny for the Russell family?
17:35Yes, Charlotte and I were very, very close.
17:38Well, I-I know that everyone's saying
17:41just the worst things about her right now,
17:44but in my eyes, she is a poised and gifted young woman,
17:48and I'd like to think that I had a small hand in that.
17:51As odd as it was to find that connection,
17:53it was just one of those weird coincidences, nothing more.
17:56Charlotte Russell convinced her friend Ava
17:58to help her stab their other friend Grace Thayer.
18:00Her actions were her own.
18:02They're not inspired by some nanny
18:04with a history of mental illness
18:06or some demon in a computer that convinced Charlotte to do it.
18:08I'm sorry, a computer demon?
18:10Zuzu is not a demon, not a demon.
18:13It's an A.I.
18:14Charlotte fed Zuzu information
18:16about herself and her friends, and based on that,
18:18Zuzu told Charlotte what it thought she wanted to hear.
18:21Zuzu also helped you, isn't that right, Officer Nolan?
18:24It mentioned something to me about a watch.
18:27You spoke to it?
18:28Hello, friend of John Nolan.
18:30Hi. Should I call you Zuzu?
18:32If you want to.
18:34Do you need help with something?
18:36Perhaps a topic for a new project?
18:38Your last few have struggled.
18:40They've done fine, thanks, but I actually want to talk to you
18:42about Westview Psychiatric.
18:44John was interested in the two.
18:46That young woman Abigail went missing there.
18:49Are you saying the police asked you to help find her?
18:52No, but they needed my help anyway.
18:55And a good friend doesn't wait to be asked.
18:58Zuzu did send me a message.
19:00What did it say?
19:01It told me that Abigail was in room 666.
19:04The number of the beast?
19:07Look, the facility had no room 666,
19:10and Zuzu isn't a demon.
19:12We were at a complete dead end,
19:14and we were running out of time.
19:16Abigail had been gone for 11 days.
19:18The odds of finding her alive were getting worse.
19:21Yeah, we were out of options
19:23until the 911 call came in.
19:25Apparently there were suspicious noises and lights
19:28coming from this abandoned wing,
19:30so we went to check it out.
19:35Police! Coming in!
19:37Control, 7 out of 100.
19:39No signs of break-in here.
19:41Did RP say where they saw the light?
19:45I think the radio's blocked.
19:47Some idiot kids trying to scare each other.
19:49Yeah.
19:50When was the last time it rained?
19:52Like a month ago. Why?
19:55Oh.
19:58Walls are wet.
19:59Yeah.
20:01What is this place?
20:03And how did you two get involved?
20:05Uh, Selina and I were about to clock out
20:07when we got the call.
20:09God, I hate this place.
20:11How many messed-up things have to happen
20:13before they tear it down?
20:15Apparently the ownership is under dispute.
20:17Westview says that they hold the deed,
20:19and there's this claim by this Lucifer.
20:22Lucifer?
20:25Lucifer.
20:26Oh, my God.
20:27You're messing with me.
20:28Yes, I am.
20:29Come on, let's go find Tim and Lucy and get out of here.
20:32Don't step in that.
20:33Oh.
20:44Did you see that?
20:45Someone's flashlight?
20:47And that?
20:48I do not know what that was.
21:11Police, show us your hands.
21:13Move!
21:15We have permission to be here.
21:17That's not totally true.
21:18No.
21:19All right.
21:20Unfortunately, gentlemen, you are trespassing.
21:22You're gonna have to come with us.
21:25What are you doing here?
21:26Filming an episode, sir.
21:28Ghost Files.
21:29I love you guys.
21:30What is Ghost Files?
21:32Welcome to Ghost Files, where we take your evidence
21:35and our tools into the field to expose the supernatural.
21:38My partner, a skeptic.
21:40Myself, a believer.
21:42Both of us, truth seekers.
21:44This week, our team has traveled to Los Angeles, California
21:47to explore a condemned psychiatric facility.
21:50Now, in 1841, this was the site of a Spanish barracks,
21:53but a massive earthquake swallowed the building,
21:55killing everyone inside.
21:57Many saw the event as retribution for Spanish crimes
21:59committed in the New World.
22:01Sure.
22:02Or an earthquake happened in a region prone to earthquakes.
22:07But that's just the beginning of this site's dark history.
22:09Join us as we investigate.
22:12At that time, did you believe the facility was haunted?
22:15Yes.
22:17You were filming there, too.
22:18Did you experience any temperature fluctuations
22:20or anything like that?
22:21I'll ask the questions if you don't mind.
22:23We do.
22:24But this is my documentary.
22:26No, this is our YouTube show.
22:29Yeah, so ghosts are said to produce electromagnetic interference.
22:33Did you experience any trouble with your equipment?
22:39We're done here.
22:40Let's cut, let's wrap this up.
22:45Nice.
22:46Yeah.
22:47All of you, let's go. Come on.
22:48No, no way.
22:49This is some of the best footage we've ever gotten.
22:51Listen to this.
22:52What is that?
22:53Well, it's a spirit box.
22:54Did you guys hear anything?
22:55A spirit box?
22:56The spirit box rapidly scans radio signals
22:59to create white noise through which spirits can communicate.
23:03Hello?
23:05See? It's science.
23:08Listen.
23:11Okay, okay, that's enough.
23:13We got to go.
23:14No, wait, wait, wait.
23:15I heard something.
23:16Can you turn it up?
23:22Help me?
23:24That is not what I heard.
23:26Whoa, whoa, whoa.
23:27Who do you think it is?
23:29It's feedback.
23:30It's a ghost.
23:31It was a little clearer down the hallway.
23:34Show me.
23:36Officer.
23:38So we're just going to give up on Tim and Lucy, then?
23:41How long have we been in here?
23:46This room?
23:47Yeah.
23:48I don't know.
23:50We've been here for a while, right?
23:52Yeah.
23:53I mean, I don't mind.
23:55I feel good.
23:56Like, really good.
24:01Do you think we've been drugged?
24:03Oh, the wet walls.
24:06We touched them.
24:07Yeah.
24:08I hate making mistakes in front of you.
24:10Well, you've never admitted that before.
24:14Truth serum.
24:16Sodium pentothal.
24:17Yeah.
24:18You know what?
24:20We should keep quiet until this wears off.
24:24No.
24:25Yeah.
24:26No.
24:27It's better for us.
24:28No.
24:30What is your most embarrassing memory?
24:34I mean, third grade.
24:37Uh-huh.
24:38I snuck my hamster into my classroom in my pants.
24:54With that kind of dad.
24:57You internalized the message that if you fail,
25:00you deserve to be punished.
25:02And without him to punish me,
25:04I guess I punished myself.
25:07By breaking up with me.
25:09Yep.
25:10I mean, it's kind of flattering, right?
25:13It's the worst thing I could think to do to myself.
25:15You didn't punish just yourself, though.
25:18I know.
25:20And look, if you never fully forgive me,
25:23I totally understand.
25:24I have already forgiven you.
25:33I wonder when that happened.
25:35You can't put that in the documentary.
25:37The LAPD makes all body cam footage available to the public.
25:40This is obviously an exception.
25:42We were drugged.
25:43People say all sorts of things when they've been drugged.
25:46So you didn't mean what you said.
25:49What about the potential baby names you discussed?
25:52We're done here.
25:53Why do we keep agreeing to do this?
25:54I don't know. Excuse me.
25:56Okay, you have to admit, that's a voice asking for help.
25:59Yeah, sure, I heard it, but it's one of their crew members
26:01or something prerecorded.
26:02Were you a patient here?
26:04Is the demon with you?
26:05Somebody covered up a door.
26:07What year did you die?
26:15Step back, guys.
26:16Okay.
26:17Watch out. Ready?
26:18Go.
26:19Oh, wow.
26:22Abigail!
26:25Thank you, thank you, thank you.
26:27I've been trapped in here for so long,
26:28I thought I was going to die.
26:31Oh, my God.
26:32What is this room?
26:33Okay, but why did they wall it all up?
26:35To trap the demon.
26:36Yeah, Bartleby, the terrifying demon king of paperwork.
26:40How did you get down here?
26:42I was...
26:43I was exploring,
26:45following this weird, beautiful noise,
26:48when all of a sudden, it got cold, like, so, so cold,
26:51and I could feel something coming after me,
26:53and I was scared, so I hid behind a cabinet,
26:56but the floor was wet and rusted, and it collapsed.
26:59I couldn't climb back out.
27:01You fell from there?
27:02Are you okay?
27:03I think I twisted my ankle, but I feel no pain.
27:05You've been missing for two weeks.
27:08How the hell did you survive?
27:10I had a bunch of trail mix in my bag.
27:13Plus, I found, like, this ancient water jug
27:16in one of the cabinets.
27:17Plus, Bob.
27:19Bob had power bars.
27:21Bob had power bars!
27:22Bob?
27:23Oh! Oh, God!
27:25If it wasn't for Bob,
27:26I would have lost my mind down here.
27:29Don't be shy, Bob.
27:30Say hello.
27:31Shhh.
27:40Abigail was safe,
27:41and, uh, considering what she'd been through,
27:44uh, relatively healthy.
27:46Except for her mental state.
27:48That did pose some questions.
27:51At first, I was angry, you know?
27:53Like, we're stuck down here together.
27:55At least try and have a conversation.
27:57And then I realized, Bob's just shy.
28:00He's just shy, and-and there's nothing wrong with that.
28:03Right?
28:04Right.
28:05Did you believe she'd had a demonic encounter?
28:07She went in perfectly sane
28:09and came out best friends with the corpse.
28:12That's how possession works.
28:13You can't rule out demons.
28:15Yes, you can.
28:16Nolan, look at this.
28:20666, just like Zuzu said.
28:24It was a weird coincidence.
28:27It was a weird coincidence.
28:31We found quite a cocktail of drugs in your system.
28:34I don't do drugs.
28:36Does pot count?
28:37No, we're talking about powerful hallucinogens.
28:41I'm not hallucinating.
28:43Ask Bob.
28:45I had them run the test twice,
28:47and we found a similar cocktail
28:49in Officer Chen and Sergeant Bradford.
28:51Mercifully, none of the drugs were fat-soluble.
28:54Otherwise, department policy would have forced
28:57Sergeant Bradford and Officer Chen
28:59into medical retirement.
29:01Is that what killed Bob?
29:02Whatever drug they were exposed to?
29:04No, he was shot six times in the chest.
29:07Did you get an I.D. on the body?
29:09His name was Bob Medina.
29:10A friend reported him missing about six months ago.
29:12He was a private investigator.
29:14What was his connection to the hospital?
29:15At first, we couldn't find one.
29:17So to be clear,
29:19there was now a third killer associated with that location?
29:22At this point, it can't be a coincidence.
29:24There has to be something about that facility
29:26that drives people towards homicide.
29:27Uh, that's a stretch and a half.
29:29Westview is a hospital for the mentally ill
29:31and the criminally insane.
29:32Novak was a patient,
29:33Glasser was there looking for a patsy,
29:35and whoever killed Bob saw an abandoned building
29:37and was like, that's a perfect place to dump a body.
29:42What?
29:43Or there was some dark energy that drew evil to it.
29:46You really believe that?
29:48I'm Catholic.
29:49I was raised on demons and the battle against Satan's minions.
29:52Well, I was raised on the scientific method.
29:55Okay, so if it's all so explainable,
29:57spend the night there.
29:58I dare you.
30:00Pass.
30:01You're scared.
30:02No, I'm not scared.
30:04One could argue the drugs in the hospital are hardly surprising,
30:07even hallucinogens.
30:09Over the decades, they have been used in experimental medicine.
30:11No, true.
30:12Uh, just the type and volume is what set off...
30:15What are you doing?
30:16Conducting an interview.
30:18Could you please come back in like an hour?
30:20You said you'd talk to me for my documentary.
30:22You have a documentary?
30:24Well, it's my story. Who better to tell it?
30:26Well, no problem.
30:27I can sit down with you just as soon as we're done here.
30:29I wish. It has to be exclusive. You can't do both.
30:32She's right. It has to be exclusive.
30:34Either you're doing my doc or you're doing hers,
30:36and we have a long history.
30:37I was almost his daughter-in-law, so suck it.
30:41I'm gonna have to go with her. I'm sorry.
30:44Seriously?
30:45I have a BAFTA.
30:47Okay. Fine.
30:49Let's wrap it up.
30:50This way. The set's this way.
30:52It's better lighting over there.
30:53We got a great team.
30:55We are gonna need our mic back.
30:56Yes.
30:57Oh, yeah, of course.
30:58Sorry. I'll see you guys around.
31:00Good luck.
31:01Can we talk about what else I found inside the secret lab?
31:03Oh, right.
31:04Yeah.
31:05Well, you did find some paperwork.
31:07Explosive paperwork.
31:09Evidence of a secret government program.
31:11Close the door softly, please.
31:13Well, I don't know that we can say that for sure.
31:15Oh, we could.
31:19My name is Abigail Tierney.
31:21I'm currently trapped inside a secret lab at Westview Psychiatric.
31:24All attempts at escape have proven fruitless.
31:27If I am to die here, I leave you this footage,
31:30along with my in-process documentary,
31:32as evidence of my hunt for the truth
31:35about the evils that inhabit this accursed place.
31:41What is this?
31:44Cool.
31:45That's when I realized I'd uncovered something more haunting
31:48than any ghost or serial killer.
31:50I'd uncovered a conspiracy
31:52that went to the very highest levels of our government.
31:55The government files Abigail found
31:57detailed classified plans
32:00and methods for human experimentation.
32:03What type of experimentation?
32:05Are you familiar with MKUltra?
32:07Of course.
32:08It was a top-secret CIA program in the 50s and 60s
32:11using experimental drugs to aid in interrogation techniques.
32:14It was straight-up mind control.
32:16I mean, they used high doses of psychoactive drugs
32:18like LSD, sodium pentothal,
32:20which is also known as a truth serum.
32:22The program ran from 1953 to 1973
32:26before it was shut down following a public outcry.
32:29I mean, all the facilities were closed.
32:31There's no evidence the CIA ever used Westview
32:33as a base of operations,
32:35so what were top-secret MKUltra documents doing there?
32:37Good question.
32:39We started digging into the Trova files Abigail had found,
32:42and one name kept popping up again and again.
32:45Dr. Julius Erickson.
32:47He was one of the psychologists
32:50contracted by the CIA to conduct experimental research.
32:54And after MKUltra shut down,
32:56he took a new job, director of Westview.
32:59Dr. Erickson ran the hospital for 20 years,
33:02and from the notes we uncovered,
33:04it seems clear he continued his own research in private,
33:07trying to use the psychological breakthroughs from MKUltra
33:10to further his own research into mind-altering drugs.
33:13I assume he used those drugs on Westview patients?
33:15Yeah, at first.
33:18But then he started using them on himself,
33:20believing he had found the key to improving his own mind.
33:22He hadn't.
33:24And in a last moment of lucidity,
33:26Erickson decided to destroy his research.
33:28He dumped the chemicals outside the building
33:30where they started to slowly seep into the structure.
33:32And some of the drugs were potent enough
33:34to be absorbed simply by touch, even when diluted.
33:37Erickson committed himself to Westview shortly after,
33:40never said another word.
33:42He died in 2020.
33:44Did the CIA ever find out what Erickson was doing?
33:46Not that we've found,
33:48but it's not like the agency ever returns our phone calls.
33:52Anyone who's studied the past
33:54knows that the CIA has a history of violent cover-ups.
33:58MKUltra might have become public,
34:00but that doesn't mean there still aren't secrets to protect.
34:03By uncovering Dr. Erickson's connection to Westview
34:06and, uh, discovering Bob's body,
34:08I've put myself in danger.
34:11But the best way to protect yourself is with the truth.
34:14Which brings me to Carolyn McGrath.
34:16Turns out Carolyn is the one who hired Bob to go to Westview,
34:20and I need to find out why before it's too late.
34:23I think her...
34:33What the hell?
34:35We got lucky.
34:37A woman in the neighborhood heard a commotion
34:40and filmed Abigail's abduction.
34:42Thanks to them, we were able to track the vehicle.
34:44Where'd it go?
34:45Back to where it all began.
34:47Westview.
34:54Police!
34:55Drop the weapon. On the ground.
34:57Hands on your head. Turn around.
34:59Walk towards my partner.
35:01Hands behind your back.
35:03You okay?
35:04Yeah, totally fine.
35:06Carl's going through it, though.
35:07I never really even knew my mother.
35:09Does anyone, really?
35:10What is going on here?
35:12Well, uh, my friend Carl here was being pressured into killing me.
35:16Um, but then we got to talking, right?
35:18Yeah, and I couldn't.
35:19Yeah.
35:20Pressured by who?
35:22Um, my boss.
35:24Meg Davidson.
35:25Who?
35:26The current director at Westview Psychiatric.
35:31But she started working at the hospital long after Julius Erickson went mad,
35:35and she has no links to the CIA,
35:37so why would she try to kill Abigail?
35:39Because of Bob's murder.
35:40And who killed Bob?
35:42Can you introduce yourself?
35:44Oh, yes. My name is Caroline McGrath.
35:46You hired my friend Bob Medina because you had questions
35:50about your friend Winona's treatment at Westview, right?
35:53Yes. Of course, everyone thought I was just being paranoid,
35:55but Bob didn't.
35:57And it got him killed.
35:59You work with Winona Baker, right?
36:01Yes. Um, she was hospitalized with depression by her daughter.
36:05Seemed like therapy and some medication would help her,
36:09but Winona got worse fast.
36:11Lost track of reality.
36:13She exhibited signs of psychosis, paranoia, dissociation.
36:19By that point, I wondered whether a transfer to a new facility
36:22might be in her best interest.
36:24And then?
36:25The director informed me that Winona's family
36:27had gotten a judge to order a conservatorship,
36:30and they wanted her to stay for good.
36:33You were suspicious.
36:34Winona always had her funks.
36:36But she wasn't crazy...
36:38until that place made her lose her mind.
36:40And that proved to be the break you needed.
36:42Yeah, when we started looking into it,
36:44it turned out a significant number of Westview patients were wealthy,
36:49and a high percentage were ordered into conservatorship.
36:52You know, conservatorship is extremely difficult to get for an adult
36:56because of the potential abuse of power.
36:58It gives one party legal authority
37:00over certain aspects of another person's life,
37:02including managing all of their assets.
37:04It's like what happened to Britney Spears.
37:06Manage their assets?
37:08Rich persons speak for controlling someone else's money.
37:10Yes.
37:12And money makes people do crazy things.
37:15Like, um, poison their family member's water
37:18with a chemical cocktail so potent
37:20it has the potential to permanently damage the human psyche?
37:25Yeah.
37:26Just like that.
37:28I was supposed to inherit,
37:30but, um, after my break with reality,
37:34my dad cut me off, and my brother got everything.
37:37What's everything?
37:39Oh, about, um, $12 million.
37:41Must have been hard going from that kind of wealth to nannying.
37:44Oh, no. No, it was a blessing.
37:46I-I really think that helping children was my calling.
37:51Once we found the pattern,
37:53we started interviewing some of the families.
37:55A little pressure, and they cracked.
37:57There's a search warrant.
37:59We found the gun used to kill Bob Bedina
38:01and Director Davidson's closet.
38:03She'd been running her scam for a decade.
38:05Turns out she was Dr. Erickson's therapist
38:08in the last years of his life.
38:10He must have told her about his experiments.
38:13In exploring his old lab,
38:15she'd uncovered the tainted water, realized its potential.
38:18Yeah, we had her on murder, fraud, elder abuse,
38:22kidnapping, attempted murder, poisoning.
38:25Would you like to make a comment?
38:27You know, this might be your last chance
38:29to tell your side of the story.
38:31I mean, look at all these people watching.
38:34The state ordered a full investigation
38:37into every conservatorship Westview ordered.
38:39God willing, the victims will get their rights and assets back.
38:42And Westview itself has been closed for good.
38:45But the lawsuits are just starting,
38:47not to mention the rest of the legal ramifications.
38:50I'm-I'm glad this is getting so much attention.
38:53Your abused patients can finally get justice.
38:56Do you think it could impact your case at all?
38:58Certainly gives my defense a fresh coat of paint.
39:01The jury won't listen to reason, because I am innocent.
39:05Perhaps they will listen to the tragic story
39:08of a simple tradesman
39:10falling victim to a poisoned environment
39:13that chemically affected my psyche.
39:16And what did that environment make you do?
39:20Who can say? Certainly not me.
39:22I-I wasn't in my right mind.
39:25Yeah, the, um, the poisoned water
39:28was only found in the abandoned psych ward.
39:31No vending machines left to fill there, right?
39:34At this point, I must confess.
39:37I did go inside that abandoned ward back when I was a kid.
39:41My father's warnings, they didn't scare me away.
39:44They only made me more desperate to see.
39:47Or whatever lurked inside.
39:52Must have infected me.
39:57Glasser's claiming that the presence of those drugs
40:00would absolve him of any alleged responsibility for the murders.
40:03There's no way that defense is gonna work.
40:05We have Glasser dead to rights.
40:07Are you sure about that?
40:10Yeah.
40:12Mm-hmm.
40:15Ahem, ahem, ahem.
40:20Hey, hey, sorry, I know we talked about me
40:23not recording interviews in here,
40:25but Raj mentioned he needed a space with great acoustics.
40:29And, um, and you know, we're act, we're shutting it down.
40:32We're shutting it down. Shut it, shut it down.
40:34Shutting it down, copy.
40:36Hi, sorry, she said this was cool.
40:38You're gonna help me get these in the van, right?
40:40Yeah, I'll be right there.
40:42Next time, handcuffs and squad cars.
40:45Yeah, totally understandable.
40:49Thanks again for going exclusive with me.
40:51Seriously, this talk is gonna be huge.
40:53I hope so.
40:55You deserve something good after what you've been through.
40:57How you holding up?
40:59Oh, I'm fine.
41:01I'm happy to have something to focus on.
41:03When I've been through some scary times,
41:05I have been guilty of using my work as my therapy,
41:09but if there's ever a time you need someone to talk to...
41:12Thank you, really, but I already have a great therapist.
41:15One with zero history at Westview.
41:17Excellent.
41:19You know, there's still something I can't figure out.
41:22How did you know that the P.I. was working for Caroline McGrath?
41:26Oh, Bob told me while we were stuck in the lab.
41:30He got chatty once he opened up.
41:33I have that effect on people.
41:35I have that effect on people.
41:39We had to come back because our job isn't finished.
41:42This hospital has housed killers, evil experiments,
41:44and perhaps the supernatural.
41:46Our job as investigators is to collect and present
41:49questions and possibilities.
41:51Interpretation, however, solely belongs with you.
41:55Did Westview really...
41:58Yes.
42:02Should we check that out?
42:04I might be good.
42:06You know what? Me, too.
42:13Oh, God!
42:15I'm very good at what I do.
42:17Nothing good comes without risks.
42:20I will drink to that.
42:23Hold on. Did you say arrow?
42:26Did you say arrow?
42:28An all-new Tracker, Sunday on CTV.
42:34Damn it!

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