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00:00And John, do you think this door, this prisoner swap could open the door for more countries like
00:07the U.S. to play a bigger role in getting both sides to the table? You just mentioned there
00:13NATO. You also mentioned the U.K. We mustn't forget that Europe is also being heavily involved
00:19in this. Yeah. And that also is a problem because, you know, President Zelensky has always said,
00:26I want everyone at the table behind me so that on the other side of the table, President Putin can see
00:34it's not just Ukraine you're negotiating with and that you have to satisfy. It's everyone
00:39supporting Ukraine. President Putin's perspective is, no, I don't think we need third parties or
00:47fourth parties. This is between you, Volodymyr, and me, Vladimir. And so it sets up a challenge
00:57because the EU has wanted to be a part of the process. They wanted to be a part of the process
01:03in Saudi Arabia. They wanted to be a part of the process in Turkey, and they weren't.
01:09Some NATO members, the same thing. President Trump, of course, has said, look, you know,
01:13I just want to sort of help push them both together, but I'm really not interested in
01:19hashing out the details. I just wanted all to stop.