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00:00Good evening viewers, and welcome to a new episode of Studio 9, where we discuss...
00:06Mahmoud Abbas in Beirut to remove the weapons of the camps, and Aoun Youkarrer...
00:11The era of foreign weapons from the Lebanese government has ended.
00:16The Israeli enemy is waiting to help the Gaza Strip.
00:20Netanyahu sets three conditions to stop the aggression, and promises to control the entire Strip.
00:28Israeli aggression against European and Arab diplomats in Jenin causes a wave of international anger.
00:35Welcome.
00:36At the beginning of a visit to an Arab official after the election of President Joseph Aoun...
00:42Until the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in Beirut.
00:45A visit that carried many questions at a time of great sensitivity.
00:50At a time when official Lebanese invitations to control the entire Lebanese territory, including the Palestinian camp...
00:59The file of the weapons of the Palestinian factions appears again as one of the most complicated files.
01:06In this episode, we discuss the dimensions of the visit and its timing.
01:10The official and unofficial Palestinian position on the removal of weapons.
01:14And we stop at the implications of this on the relationship between the Palestinians and the Lebanese state.
01:20How can the Lebanese leadership meet the fears of the Palestinian refugees from the security recruitment?
01:28And what is the role of the authorities in containing this tension?
01:31As for Gaza, the situation has not changed.
01:34Negotiations are fluctuating.
01:36The aid is stuck at the crossroads.
01:39The Israeli massacres continue.
01:41Prime Minister Netanyahu is resuming the talks in his first quarter.
01:46And he sets three conditions to stop his aggression.
01:50The first is the withdrawal of weapons from Gaza.
01:52And the removal of Hamas leaders abroad.
01:55And the implementation of Trump's plan to deport the Palestinians.
01:59Words that were mocked by the Israeli army radio broadcaster.
02:03He agreed with the launch of a missile from Gaza.
02:06While the alarm bells are ringing around him.
02:09One step separates us from the overwhelming victory.
02:13While the Israeli Minister of Heritage comes out.
02:16To admit that the siege of Gaza aims to break the spirit of its inhabitants.
02:21To pressure Hamas.
02:23Acknowledging that the famine is planned and implemented.
02:27And their goals and the phenomenon are clear.
02:30And Benkfir and Smotrych are in charge.
02:34We will talk about them later.
02:36And that is the siege.
02:38These developments, our viewers, will be the focus of our discussion in this episode.
02:43We start with the visit of the Palestinian President to Lebanon.
02:46After this report.
02:49In the last few hours, Lebanon has been busy with the visit of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to Beirut.
03:03And the talks he held with the Lebanese officials.
03:06And the bilateral relations and other regional and international developments.
03:11In addition to agreeing to the treatment of the Palestinian camps.
03:15And the use of weapons in the hands of the state.
03:18The joint statement issued by Abbas.
03:21With the President of the Republic, Imad Joseph Aoun.
03:24He revealed that the preparations for the visit.
03:26And its results were achieved in advance.
03:28With all the important positions.
03:30Which were announced from the Abbas Palace.
03:32A visit that comes under the title.
03:34The exclusion of weapons and occupation of the state.
03:36And the ban on the use of Lebanese land.
03:39And the ban on any military action against Israel.
03:42And these investigations have laid the groundwork.
03:45To deal with the crisis of the Palestinian camps in Lebanon.
03:48All over the world.
03:50Especially the issue of the proliferation and spread of weapons.
03:52And the transformation of some camps into a refuge for those fleeing the law.
03:56Especially the extremist organizations.
03:58And that within the framework of the simple control of the state.
04:01And its institutions and institutions on all its lands.
04:04According to what was mentioned in the oath of allegiance to the President of the Republic.
04:08And the agreement between the two presidents.
04:10That Lebanon has held the Palestinian cause for decades.
04:13And sacrificed for it.
04:15And paid a high price.
04:17Therefore, it is necessary to avoid the Lebanese claims.
04:20Because the armed Palestinian presence inside the camps.
04:23Does not benefit the right to return or the Palestinian cause.
04:26The organization of this presence must cooperate with the Palestinian Authority.
04:30And the Islamic Resistance Movement in Lebanon, Hamas.
04:33And the Islamic Jihad.
04:35And in this context.
04:37Hamas has refused to cooperate at this level.
04:40Information has been circulated to Al-Binaa newspaper.
04:42That the leaders in Hamas and original organizations.
04:45Will leave Lebanon within 15 days.
04:48And it is not known their destination so far.
04:51It is likely to be Qatar or Turkey.
05:00Welcome again viewers.
05:02And I welcome my guest in the studio.
05:04The political researcher Mr. Samir Al-Hassan.
05:07Welcome Mr. Samir.
05:09This is the first visit of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
05:12Since 2017.
05:14And it is the first visit of an Arab president.
05:17After the election of the President of the Republic.
05:20It is the first visit to Lebanon from an Arab president.
05:23What are the goals of this visit?
05:25And at this time, what are its dimensions?
05:30The region has undergone a lot of changes.
05:33This calls for more consultations.
05:37Especially now.
05:40There is a big American-Western movement.
05:43To recognize the Palestinian state.
05:46And also what happened recently.
05:48From the problems around the camps.
05:51And what will happen next.
05:53So I think now it is in the framework.
05:55Or in the normal context.
05:57First of all, the Lebanese sphere.
05:59The Palestinians have welcomed it.
06:02Over the past decades.
06:04So the reorganization of this area.
06:06Maybe now there is a need.
06:08With the big changes.
06:10Now all the problems in the region.
06:14I think it is heading in the direction.
06:17Or the context of the reorganization of the region.
06:20The Palestinian paper.
06:22One of these files.
06:24And the present Lebanon.
06:26Should always discuss this issue.
06:29But I think there are leaks.
06:32That may not be realistic.
06:34There are very big exaggerations.
06:37I mean, talking about the issue of weapons.
06:41I think...
06:43But the statement was clear.
06:45Talking about the withdrawal of weapons.
06:47First of all.
06:48This is the first time.
06:51No, I think.
06:53Before the Aqsa bombing.
06:55The file was clear.
06:57Especially the weapons out of the camps.
06:59It was clear and strong.
07:01Especially now.
07:03About the reorganization.
07:05And not to move to a phase of isolation.
07:09It is necessary.
07:11On the contrary, I consider.
07:13In the past months.
07:15Even in the withdrawal phase.
07:17This file was on fire.
07:19And there was a lot of reorganization.
07:22Of the bases outside the camps.
07:25Maybe now.
07:27With this realization.
07:29It calls for more dialogue.
07:31So that there is no weapon.
07:33What is the danger of those who form their weapons.
07:35In the Palestinian camp?
07:37What is the danger of those who form their weapons.
07:39In the Palestinian camp?
07:41So that there is no isolation.
07:43First of all.
07:45The concern of all the Palestinian factions.
07:47That Lebanon is not used by the Lebanese.
07:51There is a concern.
07:53About the situation.
07:55In the camps.
07:57You know.
07:59It has been more than three or four years.
08:01So the haste.
08:03To stop what is happening.
08:05I think.
08:07It is a priority.
08:09Especially now.
08:11The organization of all the regions.
08:13And among the Palestinian factions.
08:15The resistance.
08:17Let me say.
08:19Now there are a lot of leaks.
08:21Exaggerated.
08:23Exaggerated.
08:25And I think part of it.
08:27Among the media.
08:29Don't get me wrong.
08:31First.
08:33The factions are very keen.
08:35Not to interfere with the Lebanese affairs.
08:37Not to find any seeds.
08:39For the enemy.
08:41See.
08:43To serve both sides.
08:45To be a positive factor.
08:47Not a negative factor.
08:49The issue of resistance.
08:51Does it affect?
08:53I don't think so.
08:55On the contrary.
08:57Even now.
08:59The Israeli aggression on Gaza.
09:01Continues.
09:03There is a very big project.
09:05This requires.
09:07More coordination.
09:09Between all the neighboring countries.
09:11The neighboring countries.
09:13With the Palestinians.
09:15If there are any arrangements.
09:17On what basis.
09:19The Palestinian Authority.
09:21Should be ready.
09:23For any arrangements.
09:25Therefore.
09:27It is as if.
09:29There is a new way.
09:31No.
09:33This is not accurate.
09:35The timing is sensitive.
09:37While we are talking about.
09:39Daily aggression.
09:41Continuous.
09:43Yesterday there were three martyrs.
09:45There is a continuous aggression.
09:47On Gaza.
09:49On the West Bank.
09:51On Lebanon.
09:53On Syria.
09:55On Yemen.
09:57On all the region.
09:59But.
10:01To stay in the right frame.
10:03To plan things.
10:05Not to leave a seed.
10:07The priority is to remove the weapons from the camps.
10:09And to control this chaos.
10:11On the other hand.
10:13We should be quiet about the Israeli violations.
10:15Which are initially from Israel.
10:17And not from any other resistance party.
10:19I think the right word.
10:21Let me say.
10:23I am surprised by what is happening.
10:25Because.
10:27The problem now.
10:29Is the way it is presented.
10:31As if there is a new factor.
10:33No.
10:35There is no commitment.
10:37To the Lebanese law.
10:39To the Lebanese system.
10:41I did not feel.
10:43In any of the factions.
10:45That there is a problem.
10:47In addition.
10:49That the camps.
10:51Even now.
10:53The issue now.
10:55Is to secure the positive atmospheres.
10:57Outside the camps.
10:59And this is what we saw.
11:01Many of the rules.
11:03In order to secure the camps.
11:05By mutual understanding.
11:07Between the state and the factions.
11:09I think it is a positive issue.
11:11Especially now.
11:13All over the region.
11:15But to immediately.
11:17Put the names of the weapons.
11:19This is not proposed.
11:21Before the issue of weapons is raised.
11:23Because.
11:25You immediately linked it to the resistance.
11:27There is aggression.
11:29We must stop the aggression.
11:31In order to understand.
11:33On this basis.
11:35To understand.
11:37That it is aimed at the resistance.
11:39Directly.
11:41The truth is.
11:43Most of the factions.
11:45Specifically Hamas and Jihad.
11:47They act.
11:49With great responsibility.
11:51Sometimes.
11:53After the incidents.
11:55This and that.
11:57The camp is harmed.
11:59Do you mean the operations?
12:01No.
12:03Sometimes.
12:05The problems.
12:07Are harmed.
12:09Therefore.
12:11Reorganization.
12:13This is necessary.
12:15Especially.
12:17The Lebanese state.
12:19Endured all these stages.
12:21Lebanon.
12:23Endured some of these.
12:25The big ones.
12:27Which the Palestinians embraced.
12:29Is the Lebanese health.
12:31Lebanon.
12:33A government.
12:35All together.
12:37Therefore.
12:39It is necessary to continue the coordination.
12:41Just now.
12:43Forming committees.
12:45Which means.
12:47Things are not bad.
12:49As if.
12:51Not confrontation.
12:53We will not go to confrontation.
12:55The level of coordination is very high.
12:57And.
12:59It is increasing.
13:01But I am saying.
13:03In some forces.
13:05Let's say.
13:07In some media channels.
13:09They are exaggerating.
13:11The coordination.
13:13Between the authority.
13:15And the Lebanese state.
13:17Continues.
13:19And it should develop.
13:21According to the current conditions.
13:23The formation of the area.
13:25The Palestinian file is ready.
13:27Even Lebanon.
13:29Supported it.
13:31Internationally.
13:33Therefore.
13:35I put it in the frame.
13:37Coordination.
13:39Discussion.
13:41And drop any seed.
13:43The enemy can use.
13:45In an essential way.
13:47I mean.
13:49The targets.
13:51There are attempts.
13:53For the temporary displacement.
13:55If it was in Gaza.
13:57If it was in the West Bank.
13:59All this makes the Palestinian cause.
14:01On the table.
14:03And Lebanon.
14:05From the countries that were present.
14:07And to the side of the Palestinian people.
14:09Therefore.
14:11The level of coordination should be.
14:13I did not see.
14:15I think there are exaggerations.
14:17In the file.
14:19It requires.
14:21Finding a balance.
14:23For the Palestinian cause.
14:25And now we have seen.
14:27The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
14:29And most countries in the region.
14:31They are talking about.
14:33Restoring the two-state solution.
14:35And so on.
14:37Therefore.
14:39Any balance that can run.
14:41There must be arrangements.
14:43So that there are no fluctuations.
14:45All factions.
14:47The use of the Lebanese lands.
14:49Or the other way around.
14:51There seems to be a guard.
14:53In some factions.
14:55They participated in the chain.
14:57In the theater of operations.
14:59Which was decided.
15:01But I think now.
15:03The need to develop.
15:05This coordination more.
15:07And I think.
15:09The Lebanese state.
15:11In the presidency.
15:13Always.
15:15There seems to be a guard.
15:17On the Palestinian cause.
15:19And on the Palestinian people.
15:21If we were to talk about.
15:23The withdrawal of arms.
15:25From the Israeli entity.
15:27To stop its attacks.
15:29In Syria.
15:31The Palestinian camp.
15:33And all the Palestinian factions.
15:35Who have been there for years.
15:37It does not pose a threat.
15:39It is not armed.
15:41As in Lebanon.
15:43First of all.
15:45I do not know if it is true.
15:47Is there a link?
15:49Or let's say.
15:51Do you consider the same factions.
15:53In Lebanon.
15:55Is it armed?
15:57Supposedly not.
15:59Now inside the camps.
16:01The way it is done.
16:03With the national security.
16:05To control the camps.
16:07Supposedly.
16:09No.
16:11The situation in Syria.
16:13Is different.
16:15Syria is now.
16:17In a different place.
16:19Even the targets.
16:21For the Syrian military.
16:23The previous regime.
16:25Has fallen and collapsed.
16:27But there are attempts.
16:29Israeli to invest.
16:31So that nothing remains.
16:33If there is.
16:35Let me call it.
16:37Steps.
16:39In the direction.
16:41Of the new regime.
16:43In Syria.
16:45Or with some signals.
16:47That came recently.
16:49Through the meetings of Sharia and Trump.
16:51I think the Israelis do not want.
16:53Any military structure in Syria.
16:55In its entirety.
16:57They do not want.
16:59Now the removal of the leaders.
17:01If the new regime.
17:03Became to this extent.
17:05That is.
17:07In a different framework.
17:09Other than going.
17:11To Lebanon.
17:13To reorganize this weapon.
17:15There is no need for it.
17:17Outside the camps.
17:19Inside the camps.
17:21In the old way.
17:23There was.
17:25National security.
17:27This needs to be organized.
17:29With the Lebanese state.
17:31In a natural way.
17:33What is the health of the press.
17:35Of the Palestinian factions.
17:37Including the Hamas movement.
17:39Preparing to leave Lebanon.
17:41Within 15 days.
17:43And it responds to the farthest limits.
17:45I do not know how much.
17:47This information.
17:49I heard it now in the report.
17:51I do not know how healthy it is.
17:53I told you.
17:55Usually.
17:57There is an atmosphere.
17:59It may not be realistic.
18:01I have not seen.
18:03Such.
18:05It is required.
18:07After the ceasefire.
18:09There should be a level of.
18:11Obedience and commitment.
18:13There were violations.
18:15I do not know how.
18:17Inside.
18:19With the Lebanese state.
18:21I think.
18:23Dialogues and communications.
18:25Continued until.
18:27Such incidents do not happen again.
18:29I do not have an atmosphere.
18:31And.
18:33I feel that the report.
18:35It is not very accurate.
18:37Or realistic.
18:39It is a transfer of press information.
18:41Specifically from Al-Binaa newspaper.
18:43I do not know.
18:45To what extent it may be.
18:47Until now.
18:49I do not have indicators.
18:51On the contrary.
18:53It is required now.
18:55More advice.
18:57The president and the prime minister.
18:59I mean.
19:01Development of this dialogue.
19:03And the Palestinian file.
19:05In reality.
19:07I have not seen.
19:09Because until now.
19:11Let me say.
19:13The first hadith.
19:15About his brothers in conflict.
19:17Now in Gaza.
19:19They talk about guidance.
19:21After a while.
19:23Netanyahu announces.
19:25A major military operation.
19:27For example.
19:29About two months ago.
19:31Trump said that Gaza is a property.
19:33He wants to block them.
19:35Until now.
19:37We do not know yet.
19:39How the battle will end.
19:41His brothers.
19:43Despite this great historical steadfastness.
19:45Until now.
19:47The situation in Syria.
19:49Which is part of this.
19:51The hostility in the region.
19:53We do not know in which direction.
19:55The situation in Lebanon.
19:57There is full commitment from the resistance.
19:59And stands behind the Lebanese state.
20:01Therefore.
20:03Any of those factions.
20:05Must be under the law.
20:07And every state.
20:09Will we face security challenges.
20:11In the event of the implementation.
20:13And this is what is supposed to happen.
20:15Implementation of a plan to disarm these camps.
20:17Entering the camps and disarming.
20:19Which was this committee.
20:21Which was responsible for it.
20:23It may not be realistic.
20:25I think.
20:27The dialogue.
20:29With the factions.
20:31It is clear that.
20:33All the readiness.
20:35To continue the discussion.
20:37And the negotiations.
20:39The expression of the dispute.
20:41I do not think it will go.
20:43To the Lebanese state.
20:45But the weapon in the hands of the state.
20:47She put a broad title.
20:49When you put a broad title.
20:51Any side.
20:53Owns a weapon.
20:55This weapon must be withdrawn from it.
20:57This also needs.
20:59Development.
21:01In the question.
21:03The limitation of the weapon.
21:05Even Sheikh Naeem.
21:07He talked about a weapon outside the resistance.
21:09Outside the state.
21:11Yes.
21:13But the main question.
21:15In the shadow of the aggression.
21:17In the shadow of the targets.
21:19The weapon.
21:21Is a reaction to the occupation.
21:23The resistance.
21:25Is a reaction to the occupation.
21:27The resistance.
21:29Is not an alternative to the state.
21:31The state is the basis.
21:33Now in the face of the Israeli aggression.
21:35We need all the elements of power.
21:37Now the state is in a phase.
21:39Of recovery.
21:41Of reorganization of institutions.
21:43It needs to develop its military.
21:45And develop its capabilities.
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29:45How can we be sure of this?
29:47Now a question.
29:49Is it reasonable to continue the aggression?
29:51Is it reasonable to continue the aggression?
29:53With the assumptions of a daily occurrence.
29:55With the assumptions of a daily occurrence.
29:57That's why I say
29:59Let me now
30:01Let me now
30:03I don't care about reading
30:05And every field now works on its own
30:07But the fact is
30:09I think everyone is waiting
30:11I think everyone is waiting
30:13For the Iranian-American negotiations
30:15Will the Americans be willing to attack the region?
30:17Will the Americans be willing to attack the region?
30:19Now Trump
30:21Now Trump
30:23Trump is supposed to
30:25And this was in his campaign
30:27And this was in his campaign
30:29He talks about peace
30:31And now he is actually investing
30:33In what the Democrats did
30:35He is investing in all the military successes
30:37He is investing in all the military successes
30:39That the Americans and the Israelis have made
30:41He wants to invest
30:43Will the situation remain as it is?
30:45Will the situation remain as it is?
30:47How will there be stability in the region?
30:49How will there be stability in the region?
30:51From my point of view
30:53Even without
30:55The restoration of the rights of the Palestinian people
30:57There will be no stability in the region
30:59There will be no stability in the region
31:01And no peace
31:03On the contrary
31:05The confrontation will continue
31:07And there will be more resistance
31:09And there will be more resistance
31:11And this is supposed to be
31:13And this is supposed to be
31:15In parallel
31:17With attempts
31:19To stop the fire in Gaza
31:21To stop the fire in Gaza
31:23And to restore the negotiations
31:25And this is supposed to be
31:27But if the conflict continues
31:29I think
31:31It is not realistic
31:33But the restructuring
31:35Of the camps
31:37I think
31:39There needs to be stability
31:41And the parties that agree on this
31:43Whichever role
31:45Let's say
31:47If now the resistance
31:49Which is the warhead
31:51Now
31:53Is committed
31:55In 1701
31:57To stop the fire
31:59And to drop all the enemy's bullets
32:01This needs to be completed
32:03With everyone
32:05I think
32:07It is not successful now
32:09As if it is part of the campaign
32:11Even against the resistance
32:13Look
32:15There may be a team
32:17That considers
32:19Warming up the resistance
32:21With the issue of weapons
32:23To lead to results
32:25On the contrary
32:27I saw
32:29During this period
32:31That this speech
32:33Still
32:35We will continue this episode
32:37Mr. Samir
32:39But after a short break
32:41Stay tuned
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