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'The Largest Wealth Transfer In American History': Brian Schatz Tears Into Republicans' Budget Bill
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5/22/2025
During remarks on the Senate floor Wednesday, Sen Brian Schatz (D-HI) spoke about the Republicans' budget.
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00:00
The senator from Hawaii.
00:03
Mr. President, there's a sort of general rule in politics,
00:07
which is that if you start your meeting at 1 a.m.,
00:14
you're probably not proud of what you're doing.
00:18
Now, there are some instances in which you start the meeting at 7 p.m.,
00:24
and it goes long, and then you have to vote at whatever hour you finish.
00:28
But to convene at 1 a.m. is an intentional thing, right?
00:32
It is to say, I would very much like if nobody saw what we were up to.
00:40
And that's exactly what happened at 1 a.m. today, Wednesday morning.
00:47
Republicans in the House know that the bill that they are considering is super unpopular,
00:54
but they've been ordered to pass it anyway.
00:58
That is what's happening on the other side of the Capitol right now.
01:03
House Republicans have convened the Rules Committee at 1 a.m. to advance their tax bill,
01:08
and it's because they know this bill stinks.
01:13
For starters, it is the largest wealth transfer in American history.
01:19
Think about that.
01:21
There's been a lot of wealth transfers in American history,
01:23
but this is the biggest one in terms of the tax code.
01:27
It's not like they're redistributing wealth among the wealthy.
01:31
They are literally taking from the poor,
01:34
people who don't have enough money,
01:36
and shoveling it straight into the pockets of people who already have more than enough.
01:42
This bill is about making the richest people ever to walk the earth even richer.
01:49
How do they plan to do that?
01:53
By kicking 14 million Americans off of health insurance
01:58
and denying food assistance to millions more.
02:02
People will be turned away at hospitals and go to bed hungry,
02:08
all so that billionaires have a bit more.
02:12
You do not need fancy polling to tell you that this is super unpopular.
02:18
And so Republicans have decided to fix that problem
02:21
by convening the hearing in the middle of the night,
02:23
hoping that people will not notice.
02:26
The plain facts of the bill are so egregious,
02:30
and as I started to write these remarks,
02:33
I had a problem,
02:35
which is how do you describe this thing accurately
02:37
and not sound like you're frothing at the mouth like a partisan
02:42
and sort of overstating the case?
02:44
Because this really is kicking 14 million people off of Medicaid,
02:50
kicking millions more off of food assistance,
02:53
and then that is the savings that is generated
02:57
in order to fund these tax cuts for billionaire corporations
03:02
and the wealthiest people in the United States.
03:06
And what happens if something is both true
03:08
and sounds like a partisan accusation?
03:11
But that's where we're at.
03:14
This is actually what they're trying to do.
03:16
And here's the thing,
03:17
even the biggest cuts to Medicaid in history
03:19
are still not enough
03:21
to cover the costs of these enormous giveaways.
03:24
So the Republicans have turned
03:25
to one of their favorite punching bags,
03:28
solving the climate crisis.
03:32
Never mind that hundreds of billions of dollars
03:34
are being invested in clean energy across the country,
03:37
mostly in Republican states and districts.
03:41
Never mind that those investments
03:42
are creating hundreds of thousands of good-paying jobs.
03:46
Never mind that even if you don't care about any of that,
03:48
there is a basic principle in running a smart economy
03:53
and running an investable economy,
03:56
and that is that when the private sector
04:00
makes an investment on the basis of the tax code,
04:04
and they are in the middle of that investment,
04:07
that you can't pull the rug out from under them.
04:10
And the reason is very simple.
04:11
Besides fairness,
04:13
and besides the fact that we are undermining progress
04:15
towards actually addressing
04:17
an existential crisis for the planet,
04:21
it also makes the United States
04:23
very hard to invest in
04:24
because if you were a business
04:26
and you were looking at the federal tax code
04:28
and you're saying,
04:28
I'm going to make a five,
04:30
maybe ten-year investment,
04:32
capital investment,
04:34
chips, manufacturing,
04:36
climate, agriculture,
04:38
hospitality, real estate,
04:40
transportation, infrastructure,
04:41
whatever it may be,
04:42
but you're doing it on the basis
04:43
of what the federal tax code says.
04:47
And then your investment committee,
04:50
the board of directors,
04:52
whomever it may be,
04:53
will say,
04:54
well, how do we know these things
04:55
are going to stay on the books?
04:57
And the normal answer is,
05:00
well, come on,
05:00
the federal government
05:01
is not going to pull out
05:02
a tax incentive structure
05:04
in the middle
05:05
of your investment and construction cycle,
05:08
and the truth is,
05:10
yes, they are.
05:12
And so this doesn't have
05:13
just climate implications
05:15
or economic implications
05:18
in terms of the specific projects.
05:20
It actually has to do
05:22
with how stable
05:23
of an investment climate
05:25
we establish
05:27
in the United States of America.
05:30
You know,
05:31
we're no longer doing
05:32
all of the above.
05:33
The argument that we used to have
05:35
between the political parties
05:36
was Democrats would say,
05:39
we've got to transition
05:39
to clean energy.
05:41
Republicans would say,
05:42
no, let's do clean energy,
05:43
but let's also do
05:44
these other things.
05:46
But now the Republican position
05:48
is picking winners and losers
05:51
and basically riding
05:52
the losers into the ground.
05:55
Here's the very tough truth.
06:00
Coal is on the way out,
06:02
whether you like it or not.
06:04
Trump and Republicans
06:06
would rather revive it
06:08
for a few more years
06:09
just to squeeze
06:09
a couple more years
06:11
of profitability out of it
06:12
because after all,
06:13
their capital investments
06:16
are fully amortized.
06:18
So a couple more years
06:20
of profitability
06:20
means no more investment,
06:22
but a couple more years
06:23
of revenue.
06:25
And so that's what they're doing.
06:27
This is going to raise costs
06:29
for Americans.
06:30
Let's be clear.
06:31
This is going to raise costs
06:33
for Americans.
06:34
There was a time,
06:36
and I was part of these debates
06:37
in the state of Hawaii.
06:38
There was a time
06:39
when there was a trade-off
06:41
between how much consumers
06:43
had to pay
06:44
and our climate objectives.
06:48
But those trends have changed.
06:52
So now wind is the cheapest
06:53
form of energy.
06:55
Nuclear is among
06:56
the cheapest forms of energy.
06:58
Solar is among
06:59
the cheapest forms of energy.
07:02
For me,
07:03
in the state of Hawaii,
07:04
to bring in
07:05
low-sulfur fuel oil
07:06
on a fuel tanker
07:07
and then light it on fire
07:08
for electrons
07:08
is the single dumbest thing
07:10
you could do
07:10
even if you didn't care
07:11
about climate.
07:12
It's simply cheaper.
07:14
It is simply cheaper
07:15
for consumers
07:16
and businesses
07:17
and for the climate crisis
07:20
and therefore
07:21
our ability
07:22
to fiscally manage
07:23
the climate crisis
07:24
as we see
07:25
increasing disasters
07:27
both in their severity
07:28
and how often they happen
07:30
and then every,
07:31
what,
07:32
year,
07:32
year and a half
07:32
we do a $150 billion
07:34
emergency supplemental
07:35
because there are now
07:37
wildfires
07:37
where there have never
07:38
been wildfires,
07:39
floods where there
07:40
have never been floods,
07:41
tornadoes where there
07:42
have never been tornadoes.
07:43
This is not made up.
07:44
Nobody gets to deny
07:45
this anymore.
07:46
And so there is a reason
07:50
they convened at 1 a.m.
07:52
and it is not because
07:53
that's prime time in Hawaii.
07:56
They didn't convene at 1 a.m.
07:58
because they like to see
07:59
each other past midnight.
08:00
They convened at 1 a.m.
08:02
because they are about to pass
08:04
one of the most unpopular
08:07
pieces of legislation
08:08
that has ever been passed
08:10
out of the United States
08:11
House of Representatives.
08:12
And I just wonder why
08:16
if I'm a House member
08:17
and I'm being told
08:18
we're going to make
08:20
all these changes,
08:21
all these things
08:21
that you're voting for
08:22
are going to be excised
08:25
from the Senate version,
08:26
don't worry.
08:28
Well, my view would be
08:29
if you're going to fix
08:29
all that stuff,
08:30
why are you making me
08:31
vote on it now?
08:34
Why are you making me
08:35
vote on it now?
08:36
And the answer is very simple.
08:39
Donald Trump showed up
08:40
in the caucus,
08:40
used a couple
08:42
of expletives.
08:45
They implied that
08:46
voting no was a betrayal,
08:48
that standing up
08:49
for your constituents
08:50
is a betrayal.
08:52
And I think they're all
08:53
going to fall in line.
08:55
And so it is up
08:56
to the United States Senate
08:57
to fix this bill
08:58
or kill this bill.
09:00
And so that's the task
09:02
in front of us.
09:03
And I am hoping
09:05
that cooler heads prevail.
09:07
I know there are
09:07
a number of Republicans
09:08
that hate these Medicaid cuts.
09:10
I know there are
09:13
a number of Republicans
09:14
who have a ton
09:15
of clean energy investment
09:16
in their state.
09:18
And there's plenty
09:19
of political room
09:20
to criticize
09:21
the Biden administration
09:22
or say,
09:22
I'm against the Green New Deal
09:24
and still be for wind
09:25
and solar
09:26
and nuclear
09:26
and geothermal
09:27
and agriculture
09:29
that's done
09:30
in a more climate-friendly way.
09:31
All of that is
09:33
available to us.
09:36
We don't have to do things
09:38
in the maximally
09:39
unpopular way,
09:41
but the speaker
09:42
apparently
09:44
wants to do it that way.
09:47
I yield the floor.
09:48
I yield the floor.
09:48
I yield the floor.
09:49
I yield the floor.
09:49
I yield the floor.
09:50
I yield the floor.
09:50
I yield the floor.
09:51
I yield the floor.
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