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  • 5/22/2025
During remarks on the Senate floor Wednesday, Sen Brian Schatz (D-HI) spoke about the Republicans' budget.

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00:00The senator from Hawaii.
00:03Mr. President, there's a sort of general rule in politics,
00:07which is that if you start your meeting at 1 a.m.,
00:14you're probably not proud of what you're doing.
00:18Now, there are some instances in which you start the meeting at 7 p.m.,
00:24and it goes long, and then you have to vote at whatever hour you finish.
00:28But to convene at 1 a.m. is an intentional thing, right?
00:32It is to say, I would very much like if nobody saw what we were up to.
00:40And that's exactly what happened at 1 a.m. today, Wednesday morning.
00:47Republicans in the House know that the bill that they are considering is super unpopular,
00:54but they've been ordered to pass it anyway.
00:58That is what's happening on the other side of the Capitol right now.
01:03House Republicans have convened the Rules Committee at 1 a.m. to advance their tax bill,
01:08and it's because they know this bill stinks.
01:13For starters, it is the largest wealth transfer in American history.
01:19Think about that.
01:21There's been a lot of wealth transfers in American history,
01:23but this is the biggest one in terms of the tax code.
01:27It's not like they're redistributing wealth among the wealthy.
01:31They are literally taking from the poor,
01:34people who don't have enough money,
01:36and shoveling it straight into the pockets of people who already have more than enough.
01:42This bill is about making the richest people ever to walk the earth even richer.
01:49How do they plan to do that?
01:53By kicking 14 million Americans off of health insurance
01:58and denying food assistance to millions more.
02:02People will be turned away at hospitals and go to bed hungry,
02:08all so that billionaires have a bit more.
02:12You do not need fancy polling to tell you that this is super unpopular.
02:18And so Republicans have decided to fix that problem
02:21by convening the hearing in the middle of the night,
02:23hoping that people will not notice.
02:26The plain facts of the bill are so egregious,
02:30and as I started to write these remarks,
02:33I had a problem,
02:35which is how do you describe this thing accurately
02:37and not sound like you're frothing at the mouth like a partisan
02:42and sort of overstating the case?
02:44Because this really is kicking 14 million people off of Medicaid,
02:50kicking millions more off of food assistance,
02:53and then that is the savings that is generated
02:57in order to fund these tax cuts for billionaire corporations
03:02and the wealthiest people in the United States.
03:06And what happens if something is both true
03:08and sounds like a partisan accusation?
03:11But that's where we're at.
03:14This is actually what they're trying to do.
03:16And here's the thing,
03:17even the biggest cuts to Medicaid in history
03:19are still not enough
03:21to cover the costs of these enormous giveaways.
03:24So the Republicans have turned
03:25to one of their favorite punching bags,
03:28solving the climate crisis.
03:32Never mind that hundreds of billions of dollars
03:34are being invested in clean energy across the country,
03:37mostly in Republican states and districts.
03:41Never mind that those investments
03:42are creating hundreds of thousands of good-paying jobs.
03:46Never mind that even if you don't care about any of that,
03:48there is a basic principle in running a smart economy
03:53and running an investable economy,
03:56and that is that when the private sector
04:00makes an investment on the basis of the tax code,
04:04and they are in the middle of that investment,
04:07that you can't pull the rug out from under them.
04:10And the reason is very simple.
04:11Besides fairness,
04:13and besides the fact that we are undermining progress
04:15towards actually addressing
04:17an existential crisis for the planet,
04:21it also makes the United States
04:23very hard to invest in
04:24because if you were a business
04:26and you were looking at the federal tax code
04:28and you're saying,
04:28I'm going to make a five,
04:30maybe ten-year investment,
04:32capital investment,
04:34chips, manufacturing,
04:36climate, agriculture,
04:38hospitality, real estate,
04:40transportation, infrastructure,
04:41whatever it may be,
04:42but you're doing it on the basis
04:43of what the federal tax code says.
04:47And then your investment committee,
04:50the board of directors,
04:52whomever it may be,
04:53will say,
04:54well, how do we know these things
04:55are going to stay on the books?
04:57And the normal answer is,
05:00well, come on,
05:00the federal government
05:01is not going to pull out
05:02a tax incentive structure
05:04in the middle
05:05of your investment and construction cycle,
05:08and the truth is,
05:10yes, they are.
05:12And so this doesn't have
05:13just climate implications
05:15or economic implications
05:18in terms of the specific projects.
05:20It actually has to do
05:22with how stable
05:23of an investment climate
05:25we establish
05:27in the United States of America.
05:30You know,
05:31we're no longer doing
05:32all of the above.
05:33The argument that we used to have
05:35between the political parties
05:36was Democrats would say,
05:39we've got to transition
05:39to clean energy.
05:41Republicans would say,
05:42no, let's do clean energy,
05:43but let's also do
05:44these other things.
05:46But now the Republican position
05:48is picking winners and losers
05:51and basically riding
05:52the losers into the ground.
05:55Here's the very tough truth.
06:00Coal is on the way out,
06:02whether you like it or not.
06:04Trump and Republicans
06:06would rather revive it
06:08for a few more years
06:09just to squeeze
06:09a couple more years
06:11of profitability out of it
06:12because after all,
06:13their capital investments
06:16are fully amortized.
06:18So a couple more years
06:20of profitability
06:20means no more investment,
06:22but a couple more years
06:23of revenue.
06:25And so that's what they're doing.
06:27This is going to raise costs
06:29for Americans.
06:30Let's be clear.
06:31This is going to raise costs
06:33for Americans.
06:34There was a time,
06:36and I was part of these debates
06:37in the state of Hawaii.
06:38There was a time
06:39when there was a trade-off
06:41between how much consumers
06:43had to pay
06:44and our climate objectives.
06:48But those trends have changed.
06:52So now wind is the cheapest
06:53form of energy.
06:55Nuclear is among
06:56the cheapest forms of energy.
06:58Solar is among
06:59the cheapest forms of energy.
07:02For me,
07:03in the state of Hawaii,
07:04to bring in
07:05low-sulfur fuel oil
07:06on a fuel tanker
07:07and then light it on fire
07:08for electrons
07:08is the single dumbest thing
07:10you could do
07:10even if you didn't care
07:11about climate.
07:12It's simply cheaper.
07:14It is simply cheaper
07:15for consumers
07:16and businesses
07:17and for the climate crisis
07:20and therefore
07:21our ability
07:22to fiscally manage
07:23the climate crisis
07:24as we see
07:25increasing disasters
07:27both in their severity
07:28and how often they happen
07:30and then every,
07:31what,
07:32year,
07:32year and a half
07:32we do a $150 billion
07:34emergency supplemental
07:35because there are now
07:37wildfires
07:37where there have never
07:38been wildfires,
07:39floods where there
07:40have never been floods,
07:41tornadoes where there
07:42have never been tornadoes.
07:43This is not made up.
07:44Nobody gets to deny
07:45this anymore.
07:46And so there is a reason
07:50they convened at 1 a.m.
07:52and it is not because
07:53that's prime time in Hawaii.
07:56They didn't convene at 1 a.m.
07:58because they like to see
07:59each other past midnight.
08:00They convened at 1 a.m.
08:02because they are about to pass
08:04one of the most unpopular
08:07pieces of legislation
08:08that has ever been passed
08:10out of the United States
08:11House of Representatives.
08:12And I just wonder why
08:16if I'm a House member
08:17and I'm being told
08:18we're going to make
08:20all these changes,
08:21all these things
08:21that you're voting for
08:22are going to be excised
08:25from the Senate version,
08:26don't worry.
08:28Well, my view would be
08:29if you're going to fix
08:29all that stuff,
08:30why are you making me
08:31vote on it now?
08:34Why are you making me
08:35vote on it now?
08:36And the answer is very simple.
08:39Donald Trump showed up
08:40in the caucus,
08:40used a couple
08:42of expletives.
08:45They implied that
08:46voting no was a betrayal,
08:48that standing up
08:49for your constituents
08:50is a betrayal.
08:52And I think they're all
08:53going to fall in line.
08:55And so it is up
08:56to the United States Senate
08:57to fix this bill
08:58or kill this bill.
09:00And so that's the task
09:02in front of us.
09:03And I am hoping
09:05that cooler heads prevail.
09:07I know there are
09:07a number of Republicans
09:08that hate these Medicaid cuts.
09:10I know there are
09:13a number of Republicans
09:14who have a ton
09:15of clean energy investment
09:16in their state.
09:18And there's plenty
09:19of political room
09:20to criticize
09:21the Biden administration
09:22or say,
09:22I'm against the Green New Deal
09:24and still be for wind
09:25and solar
09:26and nuclear
09:26and geothermal
09:27and agriculture
09:29that's done
09:30in a more climate-friendly way.
09:31All of that is
09:33available to us.
09:36We don't have to do things
09:38in the maximally
09:39unpopular way,
09:41but the speaker
09:42apparently
09:44wants to do it that way.
09:47I yield the floor.
09:48I yield the floor.
09:48I yield the floor.
09:49I yield the floor.
09:49I yield the floor.
09:50I yield the floor.
09:50I yield the floor.
09:51I yield the floor.

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