Are We Losing Ourselves to AI? || Acharya Prashant (2023)

Acharya Prashant

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00:00Namaste sir. We are process and we are governed by certain principles. Offlet, I've been hearing

00:15a lot of news about AI and one thing that strikes me is the fact that one AI process

00:25could be fed into another AI process and if the Turing test determines the sentient capability

00:34of consciousness, self-awareness, etc., of a machine, then one machine could inherently

00:41become a lot more capable, sort of super conscious than the previous one because that's something

00:47that human beings can't do. We cannot transfer the complete brain to the another one. So

00:51my question was, sir, in this whole notion of consciousness, self-awareness and volition

00:58and moral ethics conduct, etc., I seem to see machine to be overpowering human beings in

01:07the sense that human beings have created something but in a way it has created something more dangerous,

01:14which is kind of overpowering the sense of our own belonging as a human being. I definitely

01:24see this tinkering with the laws of nature, the Prakriti and everything is kind of really causing

01:30a lot of challenges to the world. I just wanted to hear your views on where AI is taking the

01:35world today with regard to the humanity and whether it's leading to the progress or in

01:42the downward spiral.

01:44I do not think I am very clear with the question. In what sense do you think that AI is overpowering

01:52human consciousness?

01:54What I think, sir, is essentially what I am kind of looking for is to have a better

02:03consciousness, to become a better self-aware person. And when I look at some human machine,

02:10which is almost imbibing, I mean replicating my own sense of consciousness, self-awareness,

02:16et cetera, somewhere I get the sense, I also get perturbed that machine itself is, you know,

02:23more powerful than me in terms of its super consciousness power.

02:27What do you mean by super consciousness power? That's where the haziness is. What do you mean

02:32by super consciousness power?

02:34Super consciousness as in one machine has been created and the capability of it has been fed

02:41into another machine.

02:43Capability with respect to what?

02:46With respect to the initial learning or the AI has actually gotten.

02:54It can perform tasks.

02:57Right, sir.

02:58So how is that challenging human consciousness?

03:06Because the simulation of the Turing test itself says that, you know, at certain point,

03:13it is almost replicating the human being in terms of fooling the human beings in a sense that…

03:19It's replicating that part of human consciousness that is any way very mechanical or replicable.

03:27That which is replicable in you will be replicated. For example, a statue can be made that looks just like you,

03:37because your body, your physical features are all replicable.

03:41So somebody will replicate them.

03:43How does that threaten you?

03:44You are not that within you, which can be replicated.

03:53And if there is something that can be replicated, that is not you.

03:58So let that be replicated.

03:59What's the problem?

04:03Somebody makes a statue.

04:04How does that threaten your existence?

04:08Somebody clicks a photograph.

04:10How does that threaten your existence?

04:11That looks like you, but that's not you.

04:14Somebody downloads the entire content of your memory.

04:21That's possible.

04:25Each passing day, that's becoming more and more possible.

04:29The entire content of your memory can be downloaded.

04:39But that's not you.

04:44Right.

04:47Or your genetic material can be taken.

04:49And a clone can be raised.

04:50But that's not you, again.

04:54How does that threaten you?

04:58So go to Nirvana Shatkam.

05:03When such doubts arise and worries,

05:07you need to know what you are not.

05:10And that which you are not, let that be copied.

05:15Or substituted.

05:17Or outsourced.

05:19Or whatever.

05:24Somebody copies my voice.

05:27How does that threaten me?

05:31Am I my voice?

05:35Am I my voice?

05:36Am I my voice?

05:40So, Nirvana Shatkam.

05:42And when you can discount everything that you are not,

05:45then there is.

05:46Chidananda Rupa, Shivoham, Shivoham.

05:50Mind you, nobody can halt the march of science and technology.

05:55All that science can do, it will do.

05:58There is no need to feel threatened.

06:02You will be cloned.

06:03You will be replicated, duplicated, substituted.

06:12Therefore, you must come to that within you, which is alone.

06:18Not transferable.

06:21Not available to be duplicated.

06:27What is that?

06:29That's who you are.

06:33All else is just, you know, stuff that you are attached to.

06:44And stuff is stuff.

06:45Just, I had another question.

06:50You did mention that there's a dance in Prakriti.

06:54Everything is entertainment.

06:56There's fun.

06:58But the ego is always in a quest of sorrow.

07:02I mean, the whole existence of ego is because there's a sorrow.

07:06If the sorrow dissolves, the ego dissolves, etc.

07:10Then, sir, my question was, when I look at the liberated person, I mean, maybe, I mean, correct me, please, please correct me if I'm wrong.

07:17Normally, I see a sense of, you know, not sort of an anand or happiness in their face.

07:25It's always that there is some sort of sorrow in their face as opposed to what Prakriti is indicating.

07:31That, you know, you have to rejoice, you have to be not in grief.

07:37But when I look at them, I mean, it's just like, it's kind of contradicting to the message of what Prakriti is giving to them.

07:47So, why is it so, sir?

07:49Is my understanding correct on this?

07:52Look at how the ego operates.

07:54It looks at everything from its own frame of reference.

07:57You go to a person who is rejoicing.

08:03And you say, this person is suffering.

08:06Now, what needs to change?

08:09The

08:12fact

08:15or the definition of suffering.

08:20You go to a person

08:22and as a fact, he is actually rejoicing.

08:25But from your own definition, you say he is suffering.

08:30And because all your definitions are distorted, they are coming from your own center.

08:36Right.

08:38When we rejoice,

08:40that's a kind of very sick celebration.

08:44That sick celebration we do not find in the liberated one.

08:48When we do not find that sick celebration, that maniac celebration, in the liberated one, we declare that that fellow is serious and suffering.

09:00But the fact is that he is rejoicing.

09:02And if you can push your ego aside, then you will say, oh, so this, from this, now I develop my definition of celebration.

09:13Instead you say, I already have a definition of celebration.

09:17And if his condition matches my definition, only then will I agree that he is rejoicing.

09:21Why should his condition match your definition?

09:26You change your definition.

09:28If you find the liberated man serious,

09:32then change your definition to mean seriousness is celebration.

09:36Instead you want to stick to your definition and your definition postulates, I said, a very sick kind of celebration.

09:45In which you are excited, jumping, thumping, romping, inebriated and that you call as partying.

09:55Not that kind of celebration, you usually do not find in the liberated one.

10:00So you say, oh, no, that fellow, you know, he is quite serious and something got wrong with him.

10:07He looks very pensive, probably mournful.

10:11No.

10:12That's where the celebration is.

10:15You adjust your definition.

10:18Are you getting it?

10:19If you find him weeping,

10:23then you change your definition.

10:25Because that's celebration.

10:30That's the

10:33part of it that concerns his state.

10:36Now there is another thing to it.

10:40How do you know his state when he is not in front of you?

10:46Who are you with respect to him?

10:48With respect to him, you are a patient.

10:50You are a student.

10:52You are somebody to be taken care of.

10:54You are somebody to be shown the way.

10:56No.

10:57So it is quite possible that internally he is celebrating.

11:01But when he faces you,

11:05he has to pretend anger.

11:07Who are you?

11:10You are his patient.

11:11He is the doctor.

11:12That's the relationship.

11:14Why will the doctor show his so-called real face to you?

11:20The doctor will show one particular face that you need to see.

11:24Maybe you are of the type that you need to see his angry face.

11:31Maybe if he doesn't show you an angry face,

11:35you will not study or improve or attend.

11:39That does not mean that he is angry.

11:43That means that you need to see an angry face.

11:46Please get the difference.

11:49It's then not about his state.

11:51It's about your requirement.

11:53He does not bother for his state.

11:55He is beyond botheration, right?

11:58But he bothers for your requirement.

12:00And your requirement is that you must see his angry face.

12:04That's what you require to see.

12:06So he will show you an angry face.

12:07But that's the thing about the ego.

12:12It has very little capacity for self-observation.

12:16Instead it wants to get into the mind of the liberated one.

12:20It was Guru Nanak who said,

12:21You may try as hard as you can,

12:24but you will never get to know the mind of the liberated one.

12:28That's from the Adi Granth.

12:31You keep trying, you keep speculating.

12:33And the ego has a serious urge to know what is going on

12:40in the mind of the Buddha.

12:42But you will never know what's there in the mind of the Buddha.

12:49Being who you are, how will you know the mind of the Buddha?

12:54It's a part of essential humility to not even try.

12:57Instead reflect on yourself.

13:08If you find him serious,

13:15do not judge him.

13:17Look at yourself.

13:21If you find him weeping, do not judge him.

13:23Look at the world around him.

13:24And if you find him scolding you,

13:28then look at your own state.

13:31He has no need to scold,

13:36but you have a need to be scolded.

13:41So it's rather

13:43a judgement on you,

13:46not

13:48him.

13:49him.

13:53Understood sir. Thank you so much.

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