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  • 5/21/2025
The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 1 Episode 2

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00:00Getting arrested, it was the worst time of my life.
00:04I ended up being charged with aggravated assault with three years of probation.
00:10It has been a challenge going from the scandal to relationship to miscarriage to arrest to
00:19being pregnant again.
00:29After I was arrested, Dakota and I, like, we actually never broke up.
00:33We stayed in our relationship and I think we wanted it, to be honest.
00:36It might not be the smartest decision in our situation.
00:39It wasn't, but it is what it is.
00:42This place is so cute.
00:46I want to get a little drinky drink.
00:47Hello.
00:48I got this one.
00:50You got it?
00:53I was so shocked when I found out Taylor was pregnant.
00:55I couldn't believe it.
00:56You were shocked?
00:57Yes.
00:59It was a different surprise.
01:00She's been kind of MIA.
01:01I feel like she's, like, separated herself from all of us.
01:03I mean, I feel like I would if it were me.
01:06She had the swinger scandal, had an affair with her husband, then she had her miscarriage
01:10with Dakota, continued breaking it on and off with Dakota, then she got arrested, and
01:16now she's pregnant.
01:17It's like, um, when, like, they say guys, like, think with their dick, that's like Taylor
01:21thinks with her vagina.
01:23She does not think of, like, using protection.
01:24I don't think she thinks with anything.
01:27I love her, but sometimes I'm like, sweetheart, like, it's not that hard.
01:32Yeah.
01:33Good morning.
01:34How's it going?
01:35Good.
01:36How are you?
01:37Good.
01:38It's freezing.
01:39It is cold outside.
01:40I'm so excited to go shopping.
01:43What all have you bought so far?
01:46Nothing.
01:47You haven't bought anything?
01:48I want to wait until after the shower to get stuff, because then you know what you do and
01:52don't need, you know?
01:53Yeah.
01:54I want to invite all of Mom Talk to come to my baby shower.
01:58I feel like this would be, like, a good fresh start.
02:01Did you guys get her baby shower invite, though?
02:03Yeah.
02:04Yeah.
02:05Are you gonna go?
02:06Obviously.
02:07Yeah.
02:08Are you going?
02:09I had one of my last probation appointments.
02:14Today?
02:15Yeah.
02:16What, what did they say?
02:18So this is how it works.
02:19So I went, like, once a month every month, but now it changes to every six months I go
02:23in.
02:24So I don't have to go in every month, which is, that's a step, you know?
02:28Yeah.
02:29So that's good.
02:30Yeah.
02:31We should, we just shouldn't even be there.
02:33I know.
02:34After the arrest, I was under so much stress.
02:38I was filmed leaving the jail, and then that was immediately on the internet.
02:43It was a blessing in disguise that helped me, like, wake up.
02:47I'm not gonna go through this again, Taylor.
02:49I can't.
02:51You've aged me, like, ten years.
02:53I've aged myself.
02:56It's put a very, I'd say, negative image on MomTalk.
03:01I think that something needs to change.
03:03We need to get back to what MomTalk was before all of this happened.
03:07Well, do you want to exclude her from it?
03:09Like, what are you saying?
03:10I just think, like, let's change the culture.
03:14The Swinger scandal, sure, we got a lot of eyes.
03:16We got a lot of publicity from it.
03:18But I feel like ever since the arrest, it's been the complete opposite.
03:21I know for a lot of people, like, brand deals have gone down.
03:25We need to make sure that we have a good reputation on social media, because brands aren't gonna
03:30want to work with us if they think we're going to jail and throwing stools at a wall.
03:36We need to make sure to just completely get rid of that culture, because it's our livelihood.
03:41Right now, I feel like we're, like, holding on a thread here.
03:43Yeah, I feel like it's, like, rocky.
03:46And I feel like it's going to take at least one of us to kind of step up to keep the group
03:50going.
03:51Like, it's almost weird today doing content without Taylor.
03:53Yeah.
03:54This feels different, you know?
03:56Yeah.
03:57It is weird.
03:58I'm just, like, it's overwhelming, like, I feel like right now, I just have a lot on
04:04my plate, and Dakota's, like, talking about marriage a lot, and I'm not quite, I'm not
04:13fully in.
04:15I'm so scared to, like, just get hurt, I guess.
04:19I've done, like, everything to, like, push him.
04:23I think it's more of a test.
04:24Like, are you going to stay here with me through, like, thick and thin, you know?
04:28And so I've done these things where I'm, like, trying to push him and stuff.
04:31He's like, you're trying to ruin this, like, you want to ruin this, and he's like, you're
04:34going to do it eventually if you keep trying it.
04:39I do dates in six to eight weeks, and I don't know if I'll, like, ever forgive myself, and
04:51that's why I, like, really push Dakota, because I don't feel like I deserve this, like, happy
04:58ending life.
04:59And I think that's, like, something, like, I learned in therapy, like, I just, like,
05:06kind of struggle, and I'm, like, terrified.
05:14Sorry, I can't talk.
05:16I'm, like, hurting so bad inside.
05:19I know, I don't want you to feel that way, and I think that's why I had, like, a psychotic
05:23break is because I don't know how to handle it and that much hurt that I had at one time
05:29and the whole social media was watching, and I didn't know what to do.
05:34After the arrest, I lost a lot of friends.
05:37I miss having the close friendships, so I would like to just kind of start over, beginning
05:42with my baby shower.
05:45Oh, gosh, I'm sorry.
05:48I'm going to put some lip gloss on and act like I didn't have a meltdown in the car.
05:56Oh, thank you.
05:57I know, it's cute, huh?
05:58Yeah.
06:41Please, Lord, make me the biggest star the world has ever known.
06:47Should we start flying out there?
06:49My biggest thing surviving as a working mom with young kids is self-care and hanging out
06:55with my close girlfriends.
06:56I feel like I need to be on a chair.
06:58Please, Lord, make me the biggest star the world has ever known.
07:03That was it.
07:04Taylor used to be the face of Mom Talk, and then when that all blew up, no one really knew
07:09what Mom Talk stood for anymore.
07:11I feel like if Mom Talk is going to remake its image, it's up to the rest of us to step
07:15up and make it happen.
07:16I know you don't want to make it TikTok, but we've got to pay the bills.
07:19I mean, who else is going to pay the bills?
07:21Who is currently, like, the breadwinner at home?
07:24I think all of us.
07:25Yeah.
07:26Definitely.
07:27For sure.
07:28All of us.
07:29Really?
07:30Yeah.
07:31We all are.
07:32Look at us.
07:33Social media has been, like, the greatest blessing in that sense.
07:35I feel like we haven't done a brand deal in a long time.
07:37Zero November, zero December, and then I got three in January.
07:41I wonder if holidays were just slow.
07:44The past year has been a little rough going for Mom Talk after Taylor's arrest, but we
07:49still want to keep Mom Talk going, and I think it's up to us to keep everything flowing.
07:54I had one brand deal, like, going into the holidays, and then dry.
08:01What's the weirdest deal you've gotten?
08:03Me and Jen got one.
08:05What?
08:06A bladder.
08:07What was it?
08:08After giving birth, like, your pelvic is just so weak that you could sneeze and, like, pee
08:13yourself.
08:14Was it for diapers?
08:15Yeah, it was for diapers.
08:16I just said yes.
08:17I'm reading the brief, and me and Jen are like, wait a minute.
08:20Are these for diapers?
08:21I'm like, are you doing it?
08:22Okay.
08:23I feel like you probably have had more.
08:24You have one.
08:25Yeah.
08:26Yeah.
08:27You have one.
08:28Yeah.
08:29Don't you?
08:30Yeah.
08:31Do you have a weird brand deal you want to share with us?
08:32Guys, I genuinely need your opinion on something.
08:34What?
08:35Okay, so I got this offer, and it's like, I'm not going to lie, like, the money is really
08:39good.
08:40I'm like, how much are we talking?
08:42Twenty?
08:43Two hundred?
08:44Two hundred thousand?
08:45No!
08:46Twenty thousand.
08:47Twenty thousand.
08:48Twenty.
08:49Okay.
08:50Twenty.
08:51For what?
08:52It's really good money, Kayce.
08:53What is it?
08:54What the?
08:55Oh, goodness.
09:01What the?
09:02What is it?
09:03I can't see!
09:04Just like Pleasure Toys for days.
09:06What the fuck is this?
09:09Whitney Lovett.
09:10From spreading the good word, door to door, to spreading the word about vibrators.
09:14Who would have thought?
09:15Congratulations.
09:16Is that a little microphone karaoke?
09:17Are you going to sing into that?
09:18Stop.
09:19Stop.
09:20Here, you want to see them?
09:21Let me just.
09:22Oh, this one has my name on it.
09:23Oh, Demi.
09:24That one's for you.
09:25The Demi one.
09:26The finger pro.
09:27It's your finger, but better.
09:28Guys, I need to go upstairs.
09:29You're like, I'll be right back.
09:30Stop, Layla!
09:31Okay, so what do they want you to do?
09:32Because.
09:33So, okay, so literally all I have to do is hold it.
09:34Yeah.
09:35Yeah.
09:36Yeah.
09:37Yeah.
09:38Yeah.
09:39Yeah.
09:40Yeah.
09:41Yeah.
09:42Yeah.
09:43All I have to do is hold it.
09:44Mm-hmm.
09:45And take a picture.
09:46Oh.
09:47Like, just me and post it on my Instagram.
09:48That's it.
09:49In the Mormon religion, we're very conservative.
09:54I worry about the people that I grew up with, specifically my family, seeing me promote
10:00this sex toy because it's very, very taboo.
10:03I don't know if I'd do it for 20.
10:06I'd probably have to do at least 30.
10:07I know.
10:08I don't.
10:09I wouldn't do it for 20.
10:10I'd do it for 100, maybe.
10:11I would do it.
10:12I think Whitney should take the deal for the vibrator.
10:14I honestly don't see anything wrong with promoting a sex toy.
10:18The amount was still not enough for me to post that on my feed, but get that back, girl.
10:23I personally would never promote a sex brand.
10:29Sex has been such a taboo topic, especially within the church for so long.
10:33It's like if we're trying to break the mold and modernize and get to a place of normalizing
10:37things, that starts with us.
10:39More than just making TikToks, I just love this group of women getting together and having
10:43these important conversations.
10:45I also feel like this mom talk group, especially being in Utah, is breaking a norm.
10:51We're raising this new generation, and things are changing, and I'm loving what's changing.
10:57I think that a lot of women, because of the shame and lack of knowledge, I think a lot
11:03of women don't even orgasm.
11:05I would die.
11:06Yep.
11:07Or I'm dead ass.
11:09I'm dead ass.
11:10Never in my life.
11:11Laila.
11:12I need this.
11:13I'm like scared.
11:14Take this home with you.
11:15My name is Laila Taylor.
11:16I'm 22.
11:17I got married when I was 19.
11:19Me and my husband were then married for three years, but we ended up getting divorced, so
11:24I've only ever really dated about four people, so that's not a lot of time to discover yourself.
11:31Have you tried a toy?
11:32Yeah, and any time I get close to the feeling of it, I get scared, and I like stop.
11:36Yeah.
11:37I have three kids.
11:3822.
11:39Never in my life.
11:40I went to a very Mormon populated high school, so I'd be like, okay, what's the one thing
11:44that all of my friends have in common?
11:45They're all part of the church, so I got baptized on my own when I was 16.
11:50Being black in the church, I have never taken it personally, but you definitely do stick
11:56out like a sore thumb.
11:57I feel like I'm like missing out, and I like want to, but I just-
12:01You will.
12:02Once you do it once, you will want to do it all the time.
12:03I know.
12:04You'll be like a teenage boy.
12:05I know.
12:06I just want to-
12:07Should I leave it in puberty?
12:08No, she literally starts levitating.
12:09Oh my God.
12:10Do it for yourself.
12:11Don't even do it for him, because sex isn't just about the guy.
12:19It's about us too, you know?
12:21The more you enjoy it, the more they enjoy it, you know?
12:23I don't have that problem.
12:24You enjoy it plenty.
12:25Yeah, you definitely are.
12:26I'm like, I ain't worried about who it's for, to be honest.
12:30Before you're married, it's like sex is taboo, but then the second you get married, you're
12:33supposed to be this like porn star for your husband.
12:35We know who the real porn star is for their husband.
12:37No!
12:38Who we looking at?
12:41Who we looking at?
12:44We've seen those news.
12:46My name is Jen Affleck.
12:48I am 24 years old.
12:50Zach's going to kill me for this one, but Ben Affleck, this is second cousin.
12:54I'm definitely the first Jen Affleck, and not only that, her middle name is the same
12:59as mine.
13:00Jennifer Lynn Affleck.
13:01I don't know.
13:02Maybe we can convert them to the church.
13:04I am a content creator.
13:06My goal is really just to be able to provide for my family.
13:09I've always been super comfortable with my sexuality, which I definitely think has also
13:15gotten me in trouble because I am a conservative Mormon.
13:19I do follow all those rules.
13:21I'm not kidding.
13:22You inspired me like full, like for Brett, and I've never done anything else.
13:26Wait, you did it?
13:27Yes.
13:28And it was fun.
13:29Like you took a picture?
13:30Oh, I took so many pictures.
13:31Wait, I want to see.
13:32What's yours?
13:33Oh my God.
13:34Not again, not again.
13:35Jenny, what is that?
13:36I don't want to see.
13:37There she is in all her glory.
13:38There's the kitty.
13:39Here we are, a group of women in Mom Talk who can inspire other women to not be ashamed
13:55to use a sex toy, I think is very empowering.
13:57I just worry that my family would be a bit shocked by me advertising something like this.
14:05What am I missing out on?
14:06Shit.
14:07I'm here.
14:08What?
14:09Oh my God.
14:10Hi.
14:11Hi.
14:12Come on in.
14:13How's it going?
14:14I'm good.
14:15How are you?
14:16I'm good.
14:17How are you?
14:18I'm good.
14:19How are you?
14:20I'm good.
14:21How are you?
14:22I'm good.
14:23How are you?
14:24I'm good.
14:25How are you?
14:26I'm good.
14:28How are you guys doing?
14:29You guys can sit down.
14:30What are you doing?
14:31Dishes.
14:32What are you guys up to?
14:33Your mom drugged me here off of my job sites.
14:35Really?
14:36So, what's so important you need to talk to us about?
14:40Did you not tell him, Mom?
14:41I did tell him that Dakota was probably going to move in.
14:45Yeah, probably.
14:46Yeah, he's moving in.
14:47When?
14:48Today.
14:49Like, now?
14:50Yeah.
14:51I'm very excited for this next step.
14:52One, we have a child on the way, and I feel like I really just want to try to move forward,
14:58heal, and really work on our relationship.
15:01I know you guys prefer marriage before moving in, but, like, that's obviously not how it's
15:05going to go, you know?
15:09I'm not supportive of it.
15:10Why do you have to rush it?
15:11Because we're having a baby.
15:12I know, but that doesn't matter.
15:13You'd rather me do it alone?
15:14Yeah.
15:15Yeah.
15:16Yeah.
15:17Yeah.
15:18Yeah.
15:19Yeah.
15:20Yeah.
15:21Yeah.
15:22Yeah.
15:23Yeah, that's the choice you made when you got pregnant.
15:26In our religion, marriage is, like, essential to have that partnership.
15:32We believe, like, it's a sacred thing.
15:35That's what me and your mom have tried to teach you.
15:38The church teaches that we shouldn't live with a partner outside of marriage.
15:44You already got divorced, you know, at a young age, and then you bring Dakota in this when
15:49you don't know if he's 100% sober.
15:51I don't want you to be like, oh, this is not going to work out.
15:54Okay, I have a baby from a second daddy.
15:57I don't want a revolving door of men attached to my daughter and to my grandkids.
16:03For having this baby out of wedlock, you guys can be mad all you want, but he's moving in
16:07and he's going to help me with the baby.
16:09That's the goal is to get married.
16:10It's not like, I'm having this kid and I don't want to get married ever.
16:13You want to give yourself time before you marry someone for the rest of your life again,
16:17you know?
16:18Like, it's my second marriage, so it's like I'm scared.
16:19Yeah.
16:20Again, you shouldn't have got pregnant.
16:22Which is true.
16:23Is that him?
16:24Probably.
16:25I'll go say hi and help him.
16:26I'll be right back.
16:27Hey.
16:28Hi.
16:29How's it going?
16:30Here, I'm going to help you bring some boxes.
16:31You don't have to, baby.
16:32It's fine.
16:33Do you have any light ones?
16:34A lot of them are light.
16:35I mean, I'll get most of my heavy stuff.
16:36I just told them that you're moving in.
16:37Look at that one.
16:38Just now.
16:39Are you listening?
16:40Oh, sorry.
16:41No.
16:42What?
16:43You told them?
16:44Just now.
16:45Wait, you just told them?
16:46Yeah.
16:48He doesn't have anything?
16:49No couches?
16:50Dirty clothes?
16:51Dude, I didn't know your parents were even going to be here.
16:52Do they need help?
16:53It's always scary.
16:54It is scary.
16:55I'm like, uh-oh.
16:56It's all that gray hair.
16:57They've caused you to go gray.
16:58Hopefully, I...
16:59What can you do?
17:00They don't ever listen to anything we tell them to do anyway, so...
17:01Seriously, do you need help?
17:02No.
17:03No.
17:04No.
17:05No.
17:06No.
17:07No.
17:08No.
17:09No.
17:10No.
17:11No.
17:12No.
17:13No.
17:14No.
17:15No.
17:16No.
17:17Seriously, do you need any help?
17:18I don't know.
17:19I think we're good.
17:20He doesn't have a whole lot.
17:21No, yeah.
17:22Like, I have more, but...
17:23So, first of all, you knock up my daughter.
17:25Oh, my gosh.
17:26And then...
17:27Dude, hey, that was an accident.
17:28Okay.
17:29What, you tripped and fell?
17:30Yeah.
17:31Yeah.
17:32Um...
17:33So, moving in.
17:38That's shocking.
17:39Just found out.
17:40I know.
17:41Is that how you were raised?
17:42Did you just move in with these chicks?
17:43No, no, no, no, no, no.
17:44See, here's...
17:45Here's the deal.
17:46Here's...
17:47So, here's what happened.
17:48You just knock up girls and move in?
17:49No.
17:50See, everything we did, completely opposite.
17:52I think, like, realistically, we would have liked to have done it...
17:56The traditional way.
17:57The traditional way.
17:58But, given our situation, I want to also help Taylor, so...
18:02I just feel like the only way for me to really do that is to be in here.
18:06I'm excited to have another life into our family.
18:10Little baby, but I do have my reservations about this whole thing.
18:15This is, honestly, everything I've ever wanted in my future.
18:19I just never thought it was possible for me to have.
18:22I do want a family.
18:23I want all those things.
18:24Not only that, I love your daughter.
18:26Like, I love her a lot, and we align a lot on what we want in our future together, so...
18:31Yeah.
18:32Which makes it really nice, but...
18:34We talked about that, like, even just, like, religion.
18:37I guess, as simple as, like, I wanted someone in the church to marry again,
18:43and he wanted the same.
18:45Yeah.
18:46Oh, you did?
18:47Yeah.
18:48Since the arrest and my pregnancy, I feel like I have changed spiritually.
18:53I have really looked at, like, what's important, my priorities.
18:58I want someone, like, to go to church with when we go to church.
19:01Like, I don't want to be in a relationship where, like, I'm taking my kids alone and stuff,
19:05and I just really wanted that, like...
19:07And you have usually the same morals and values, I feel like, or...
19:12Do we always follow them? No, but we're pretty aligned in that way.
19:17Being pregnant and recommitting and trying to go back to church
19:21is not the typical Mormon thing to do, and most wouldn't,
19:24and I feel like they'd be a little bit more shameful,
19:26and I do have those feelings, anxiety, fear of going back in and being judged.
19:30However, I still love our faith and really want to make an effort to go,
19:35so we are just going to try.
19:37I think that when you're pregnant and you're bringing life into the world,
19:41you need to be really considering marriage.
19:44It's really not that different, you know?
19:48Dakota moving in with my parents being here did not go well,
19:53but I'm hoping our baby shower goes better.
19:57I got education, ain't no gettin' over on me
20:00I've been through the struggle, yeah, I'm more than what you see
20:03Took a while to get it, so I'm holdin' on to success
20:05I don't do no drama, baby, go ahead with that mess
20:08You a boss and you fuckin' like it
20:11Hi!
20:13Look at you, you look so cute, pregnant mama
20:15Let's see
20:17Look at this baby
20:18Oh my gosh, it's getting so big
20:19You're still small though, what the heck
20:21It's like you're lucky, I get huge
20:23I know, and I'm almost, like, there
20:25I know
20:26Sweet, so are we looking for stuff for the baby shower?
20:28Yes, I want to show you like a picture
20:30Yeah, what's the vibe?
20:32I'm having my baby shower at this venue called the White Shanty
20:35It is Mormon owned, and they pretty much have like every Mormon event you can think of
20:40I just really want this baby shower to be perfect
20:43And I just really need my support system back
20:45So I just hope all my friends come and show up for me
20:47We want to find, like, some eucalyptus
20:49Is that what it is?
20:50Yeah, and then baby's breath
20:51Yeah, okay
20:52You can kind of look
20:53And I was looking at these, and like, dang, I want to get some plants
20:55I'd probably kill it on accident though
20:58So I am kind of nervous about my baby shower
21:03Why?
21:04Just to see everyone
21:05I'm just, like, scared
21:07Yeah
21:08Honestly, there's just no other way to see it
21:09I don't blame you, but I feel like when everything came out, I felt bad for you
21:13Everyone was shitting on you, and I was like, I would hate to be in her position
21:17Even if I effed up, and everyone's like, effing you, Taylor
21:20I'm like, I couldn't just, like, I couldn't even imagine where your mental health was at
21:23If anything, it made me, like, want to come towards you more
21:26Like, this girl, like, needs a friend
21:29After the scandal, and then obviously the arrest
21:32The moms and mom talk all for sure judged me
21:35They didn't know the background of the story, so they were like, we don't want, like, Taylor
21:39Those who love and support you will be there
21:41Yeah
21:42And I guess that can kind of give you an idea of, like, who cares and who doesn't
21:45We don't have time for fake friends
21:47I know
21:49I do feel like you've done a great job at taking accountability for, like, things from the past
21:52And, like, what you've done
21:53Yeah
21:54But I do think that you take all of the accountability
21:58And you act like it's all you
22:00And then, like, Dakota looks like this angel sent from heaven
22:04Who's, like, this perfect person when he's not
22:07Like, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it
22:10I worry because of, like, what I've seen him say to you
22:16Me and Mikayla went to this event
22:18Taylor shows up, and then her ex walked in
22:21And immediately Taylor was, like, stressed
22:23Dakota was freaking out
22:25He basically was saying, like, F you
22:27You're a nothing slut
22:29And Taylor was sitting there, like, shaking
22:31She doesn't deserve that
22:32I just think that he's not treated you the way you should be treated
22:37When we were at that event
22:39And he was texting, and I was looking over your shoulder
22:42I was reading your whole conversation
22:44Because
22:45I could see that you were, like, shutting down
22:47And you were so anxious
22:48And I was like, what's going on?
22:49I just think that he's not treated you the way you should be treated
22:54But I also feel like things have gotten so much better
22:57Like, what has changed?
22:59Like, he's being less toxic, or...
23:01Both of us
23:02Yeah
23:03I feel like we've gotten so much better
23:05He's being less toxic, or...
23:07Both of us are being less toxic
23:09How so?
23:10Just, like, with the addiction?
23:11Or just, like, in the relationship?
23:12Everything
23:14Taylor definitely hasn't confided in me as much
23:17Since she got pregnant
23:18I don't really hear much about the relationship anymore
23:20Which I knew eventually would happen
23:22That's what usually does happen
23:23Those toxic relationships
23:25Two weeks before she told me she was pregnant
23:27She called me basically saying
23:29I want to get out of this relationship
23:31I don't know how to get out
23:32Like, she was basically asking for my help
23:34Two weeks later, she's telling us she's pregnant
23:36I always think about you
23:37That's why I always check in
23:38Because I'm like, I want you to know
23:39You can, like, talk to me
23:40I think that's why I always, like, defend you
23:42Because I've been there
23:43Yeah
23:44Because I'm telling you
23:45Some of the other girls don't
23:46And they won't
23:47And I feel like I really gave him the benefit of the doubt
23:50But I haven't seen any progress
23:51Maybe that's why
23:52Like, I only know what I saw in the past
23:54And that, like, pisses me off
23:56Sure, there's been a lot
23:57I will say
23:58Yes
23:59I can honestly say there's been so much progress
24:01Dakota is obviously very insecure
24:03Because people who are confident in themselves
24:05And their relationship
24:06They don't act like that
24:07But it's still no excuse for his behavior
24:09I'm just trying to be a good friend to Taylor
24:11And I see those red flags
24:13And it scares me
24:14I don't trust him
24:15I don't think he's good for Taylor
24:17I don't think that they should be together, period
24:20Do you think I should just do this on my own?
24:22Like, you'd rather have you be happy without this person
24:24Than miserable with him just for the baby
24:27I don't like him
24:28I don't
24:32I see Macy as, like, this protective friend
24:35She's always defending me in situations
24:37I do appreciate that she's blunt
24:39And always been honest
24:40I know she wants the best for me
24:42But at the same time
24:43It's really hard to hear and accept as well
24:47All right, well
24:48I want to look at the pots they have
24:49Yeah, let's look at the pots
24:58Bye-bye
25:00Whitney's here
25:02Whitney's here
25:03The party is starting
25:05Yay!
25:06I'm so excited
25:10Hey, fun
25:11You guys already have everything out
25:12Yeah
25:13Guess who did it
25:15Lexi
25:16Is she the new favorite?
25:17I don't know about new
25:22Being a member of
25:23The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
25:25I know, it's a whole mouthful
25:26My family is very conservative
25:28My family's family is very conservative
25:31How's your boyfriend?
25:33Good
25:34Mom, how do you feel that he's not Mormon?
25:36He's a great kid
25:37Why do I feel like
25:38If I were to date a non-Mormon boy
25:40In high school
25:41Mom would have absolutely said
25:43No way
25:44Well, now you know
25:45I wouldn't have cared
25:51Of course, it's gonna weigh in
25:52To my decision whether or not
25:54I'm gonna promote a vibrator
25:56I'm just trying to figure out
25:58Is this a gray area
26:00Or is this an absolute
26:02Do not promote this
26:04So, Mom
26:06And Lexi
26:07I'm curious to know your point of view
26:08On this, too
26:09I got a really juicy brand deal
26:11For a vibrator
26:15Okay
26:16Just to promote it
26:17On my social media
26:19Why would you do that?
26:21Well, one
26:22The money's really good
26:24And two
26:26And two
26:28I feel like I can go about it
26:29Where it's, like, empowering
26:31You don't think it's, like, empowering?
26:35No
26:37Why?
26:38Do you feel like that, like,
26:39Matches your platform, though?
26:41Because you're all, like,
26:42Oh, my God, kids, homemaking
26:44Vibrator
26:47I mean, yeah
26:48Like, let's empower each other
26:50Let's empower
26:51I don't feel like it does match
26:53I think a lot of that
26:54Is private, personal
26:56But I also
26:57I wanted to
26:58Because I, like,
26:59I didn't want it to be shunned
27:00It's like
27:01If you need this tool
27:03To enjoy
27:05Intimacy with your partner more
27:07Like, there shouldn't be shame around it
27:09Do you feel like there is
27:10With the church in sex toys?
27:12Probably, yeah
27:14I think it's a personal thing
27:15Between you and your partner
27:17What if you were single?
27:19I'm not sure how I feel about that
27:21You think that
27:22It should be a no-no
27:24I think when you're seeking pleasure
27:25It can just get out of hand
27:28What about you, Sam?
27:29I feel like we were
27:30So involved in the church
27:32Growing up
27:33Even in young women's
27:34Or girls' camp
27:36Or young women's activities
27:37Like, whenever we would
27:38Talk about the law
27:39Of chastity or sex
27:40Like, it was always
27:42No, no, no, no, no
27:44There's this verse
27:45I remember
27:46Where it talks about
27:47How sex was comparable
27:48To murder
27:50And so that's what's
27:52Going in my mind
27:53As a young woman
27:55I even had the sex talk
27:56Before I got married
27:58To Connor
27:59And I was a virgin
28:03I had to figure it out
28:04On my own
28:06My wedding night
28:08Should have come
28:09From a horror movie
28:10That was a horrible
28:12Horrible night
28:13It was a conversation
28:14That was never had
28:15So we both just went in this
28:17Blindly
28:18Okay, maybe not a horror movie
28:19A comedy
28:21In some schools
28:22You're taught, like, sex ed
28:24I don't know if it's
28:25A Utah thing
28:26But, no
28:27Like, when I, like,
28:28Would watch these movies
28:29And they'd, like,
28:30Hold the banana
28:31And, like, put the condom
28:32On the banana
28:33I'm like, never
28:34At my school
28:35I remember
28:36At your shower
28:37That your friends
28:38Threw you
28:39Yeah
28:40The bachelorette party
28:41I mean, you had to know
28:42You guys had penis cookies
28:43I was kind of like
28:44What is going on?
28:45I had just had another baby
28:47She was a toddler
28:48Cut me some slack
28:49You should have taught me
28:50How you had the baby
28:53Obviously you figured it out
28:55I wish
28:56That I had conversations
28:58With my mom
28:59About topics such as this
29:01And it's hard
29:02Because, you know,
29:03My mom was raised
29:04In the church
29:05And her mom
29:06Didn't talk to her about it
29:07We just never did
29:08Talk about it
29:09So I just took that as
29:10Oh, this is just something
29:11You don't talk about
29:12It was this is
29:13Shameful
29:14Horrible
29:15Don't ever do this
29:16Don't even think about it
29:17If you do
29:18You're a horrible person
29:19Like that's literally
29:20What I believe
29:21If I could go back in time
29:22I would check that
29:23Off of my parenting list
29:24To make sure
29:25That I asked
29:26If there was anything
29:27That you wanted to know
29:28That you didn't know
29:30Oh, I love you, mom
29:32The sex is great now
29:33If you were wondering
29:34Oh
29:37And you know what
29:38Made it better?
29:39Toys
29:40So
29:41I wish my mom
29:42Had talked to me about it
29:43But I'm so happy
29:44That she's listening now
29:45Sex can be viewed
29:46In religion
29:47As like disgusting
29:48But times are changing
29:49It's a new generation
29:50Coming in
29:52With mom talk
29:53We're here
29:54We're embracing
29:55Our sexuality
29:56It's empowering
29:57And it's exciting
29:58And it's fun
30:01I think I'm gonna do it
30:03I think I'm gonna promote
30:04The vibrator
30:05You hate it
30:06You hate it so much
30:09Well, there's lots of things
30:10I don't agree with
30:12But that's okay
30:13The cycle ends here
30:15I'm going to have
30:16This conversation
30:17Because it needs to be had
30:19Maybe I'll send you one
30:21It's okay
30:24You don't need
30:25To send me one
30:38Be careful
30:39Watch your step
30:41This slow
30:42This slushy
30:45Hello
30:46Hey guys
30:47Welcome
30:48Hi
30:49How are you?
30:50I'm doing well
30:51How are you guys?
30:52Good
30:53Thank you
30:54Thank you so much
30:55This is so cool
30:56This is cool
30:57Oh yeah
30:58This is awesome
30:59Thank you so much
31:00You're welcome
31:01Thank you
31:02So who's going
31:03To the baby shower?
31:04My family
31:05Your family
31:06And then I think
31:07Mostly all of my
31:08Close mom friends are coming
31:09Like they'll be there
31:10Is it all the
31:11Mom talking
31:12How was
31:14Macy
31:15Didn't she go to
31:16The flower shop with her?
31:17It was good
31:18We kind of just caught up
31:19She asked about
31:20How we were doing
31:21Oh she's still
31:22Talking shit
31:23Like always
31:24No
31:25Yeah
31:26That's all she does
31:27She doesn't like me
31:28It's not that
31:29She doesn't like you
31:30It's like she's been
31:31The one friend
31:32That I've opened up to
31:33About things
31:34So she's of course
31:35No no no no
31:36She's petty
31:37I'm sorry
31:38Like there's a difference
31:39Like I've opened up
31:40She doesn't like
31:41Any picture you post
31:42Of us
31:43Like she's so petty
31:44She won't even
31:45Like the picture
31:46Who does that
31:47Sorry
31:48That's weird
31:49I don't know where
31:50She seems like
31:51She has this right
31:52To like
31:53Because I confide in her
31:55She's the only person
31:56You confide in
31:58I don't confide
31:59In a lot of people
32:00But I haven't even tried
32:02I am scared of friendships
32:03Right now
32:04Like just like
32:05Kind of like I'm scared
32:06Of like a
32:07Marriage and everything
32:08Like just from everything
32:09And I
32:10I'm scared to have
32:11Close friends
32:12I really am
32:13Because the close friends
32:14That I had the last
32:15Five years
32:16Were not even really
32:17My friends
32:18And were gone
32:19In the snap of the fingers
32:20Macy was one of
32:21The first ones to come
32:22And be my friend
32:23I have screwed up
32:24With MomTalk twice now
32:25First the scandal
32:26And then my arrest
32:27So I do feel
32:28On the outs
32:29Insecure
32:30And probably
32:31A little bit judged
32:32I don't know
32:33All of their intentions
32:34And I don't think
32:35You ever really do
32:36Know your friendships
32:37Until something
32:38Happens
32:39And then you find out
32:40The hard way
32:41I don't want there
32:42To be drama
32:43And so I'm hoping
32:44That MomTalk
32:45They will kind of
32:46Give me another shot
32:47And we can all
32:48Have a fresh start together
33:09Hey
33:10Awesome thank you
33:11I know
33:12Pickled bean sand
33:13Ooh
33:15Whoa
33:16This feels so weird
33:17Oh look
33:18He's like Mom
33:19No
33:20You can do it buddy
33:21It's Himalayan salt
33:23Yeah
33:24But it's supposed to be
33:25Really good for your immune system
33:26So it's like
33:27Anytime my kids are sick
33:28Or if I'm sick
33:29Like I'm like uh
33:30We need to go to a salt cave
33:31Can you eat it?
33:32My kids do
33:33Okay wait
33:34What are you wearing
33:35To Taylor's baby shower?
33:36I don't know
33:37I don't know
33:38If I'm gonna go to that
33:39Why?
33:40I don't have
33:41That kind of relationship
33:42With her
33:43We've cultivated
33:44This relationship online
33:45But
33:46We don't have one
33:47In real life
33:48And I don't even think
33:49She'd care
33:50The whole time
33:51I've known her
33:52It's always been
33:53Give give give
33:54And it's never been reciprocated
33:55And I'm just kind of like
33:56Well then why am I
33:57Why am I still giving
33:58Why am I still supporting
33:59Why am I still entertaining
34:00This relationship
34:01When there's nothing
34:02Even there
34:03It's like I know
34:04It's gonna be fun
34:05But it's like
34:07I don't wanna do that anymore
34:08I wanna lead mom talk
34:10Back in the direction
34:11That it was originally
34:13Founded on
34:14I
34:15Am not supporting
34:16This fake friendship
34:17That we don't have anymore
34:18I just feel like
34:20I have to walk around
34:21On eggshells
34:22Yeah
34:23Every time I'm around her
34:24Yeah
34:25Because
34:26Of this
34:27Audience that she has
34:28On social media
34:29Yeah
34:30It's like I'm so intimidated by it
34:31I'm like oh my god
34:32Like look what she did
34:33To her best friends
34:34Yeah
34:36When this whole mom talk
34:37Swinger drama
34:38Happened
34:39It was
34:40Immediate crash
34:41We were all in this
34:42Massive group chat
34:43And then people are just
34:44Fighting back and forth
34:45And friendships were
34:46Torn apart
34:47Because of what Taylor
34:48Was saying
34:49And
34:50It sucks
34:51That she even allowed
34:52Something like that
34:53To happen
34:54Online it looks like
34:55We're all the bestest
34:56Of friends
34:57It's like but we're not
34:58All she cares about
34:59Is herself
35:00I genuinely feel that way
35:01This is definitely
35:02Typical Whitney
35:03She will have problems
35:04If somebody
35:05Have tension
35:06And she just wants to
35:07Avoid it
35:08Rather than to talk to them
35:09Every time we're together
35:10She has to create a TikTok
35:11And it has to make sure
35:12That like
35:13She's shown as the queen bee
35:14And we're all like
35:15These girls who kiss her ass
35:16And lick her pee
35:17And I'm like
35:18I'm not
35:19I'm done with that facade
35:20I don't want to
35:21Entertain it anymore
35:22I'm out
35:23I'm not really sure
35:24Why Whitney
35:25Would consider not going
35:26To this
35:27Especially just because
35:28One of the purposes
35:29Of our group and mom talk
35:30Is that we come together
35:31And we support each other
35:32Through all the things
35:33Like divorce
35:34She was having an affair
35:35She got arrested
35:36I'm done with that
35:37I feel like all of us
35:38In mom talk
35:39It's really important
35:40That we all stay strong
35:41And united
35:42It makes me honestly
35:43Really worried
35:44That Whitney might not show up
35:45I don't trust her
35:46I don't feel safe around her
35:47I don't want anything
35:48To do with her
35:49And I think that's fine
35:51I want my
35:52Queen bee
35:53Royalty
35:54Off with your head
35:55If you're such a mean
35:56Stone cold
35:57Breaking bones
35:58It's a roy-roy to the throne
36:02Santa vink
36:10And you're next
36:11With the queen bee
36:12Actually, I have an idea
36:13What if I'm going to put
36:15All the greenery on here
36:16And we'll just keep
36:17This one the green
36:18Hey Taylor,
36:19What did you want to do with the welcome sign?
36:21Do you want it on the table?
36:23And yeah, we have easels we could put it on.
36:24What do you think would look best?
36:26I think if you used an easel.
36:28Let's do that.
36:29Yes.
36:30Yes.
36:32I'm kind of nervous.
36:36With the arrest, I don't know necessarily
36:38if the girls did judge or have any opinions about it.
36:42I came back to the church, try to get my life together,
36:45and just kind of redeem myself.
36:47And I'm like finally getting there.
36:49We're moving.
36:51We're progressing.
36:52But I feel like I have distanced myself
36:56from all of my friends.
36:58I don't know who's going to show up and who's not.
37:01But I do want them there for me.
37:03I don't want to do this alone.
37:04I'm stressed.
37:05I'm like anxiety attack.
37:07I know secrets don't make friends.
37:26I don't care if I offend.
37:29You know rules are done to bend.
37:31I will keep them to the end.
37:33Rumors spread like fire.
37:36But a good liar can't stay immune.
37:42I know secrets don't make friends.
37:45I don't care if I offend.
37:47You know rules are meant to bend.
37:49I will keep them to the end.
37:51I know secrets don't make friends.
37:54I don't care if I offend.
37:56Hi, it's the bitches right here.
37:57Look at the baby mama.
37:59Despite my issues with Dakota, I know
38:01it's important to be there to show up for Taylor
38:03for her baby's shower.
38:04She has gone through so much in the last year.
38:06I want to make sure she feels loved and supported.
38:08I think when Taylor sees us group of girls rallying
38:10around her, she'll be more excited and happy to come back
38:13to mom talks so we can all start making videos again
38:15and be a united front.
38:17Oh, you look stunning.
38:20I am here to fully support her on her journey
38:24and whatever her journey looks like.
38:26Even if she's taken a step back lately, which I totally
38:29understand and respect, I have supported Taylor
38:32through all of the ups and downs throughout mom talk.
38:35And this is no different.
38:37Look at your cute little belly.
38:38With the ribbon, you are going to cut
38:41how big you think Taylor is.
38:43And then whoever is the closest to guessing how big she is
38:47wins a prize.
38:48I just think he's going to be such a sweet dad.
38:49He is.
38:50He's going to be really cute.
38:53What was that?
38:55I think he'll be a great dad.
38:56The baby daddy part is where I think
38:58we worry a little bit.
38:59There's just like stuff from the past
39:01I think still bugs me.
39:02When we were at that event, he was saying like, F you.
39:05Like, he said like you're an F-ing whore or something.
39:09OK.
39:10You guys have your ribbons.
39:12I would love to check for you guys.
39:14Do a check.
39:15Awkward.
39:16I know.
39:17That was close.
39:17I was like.
39:19I'm going to put my hand on your belly because I love it.
39:21Do you guys know where Whitney is?
39:22Oh, is Whitney not here yet?
39:24I don't know.
39:26Fashionably late.
39:29Is she coming?
39:31Last night, I was with her, and she's not coming.
39:35Wait, what?
39:37Yeah.
39:38No.
39:38Did she tell her she's not coming?
39:40No, and I told her maybe she should,
39:42but she said that Taylor's probably
39:43not even going to notice.
39:45I am shocked that Whitney is not coming to the baby shower.
39:48At the same time, I know she's not a big fan of Taylor
39:51right now, so it doesn't surprise me,
39:53but she should at least send her a text.
39:55I feel like this is sending a message to Taylor
39:57that she does not want to be friends,
39:58and she does not care about Taylor.
40:00Did she say why?
40:01I don't want to go into too much detail,
40:03but she just says that she just doesn't want
40:04to be involved with Taylor.
40:08Can I get a pic with all of you girls?
40:09Is everyone here?
40:11I think so.
40:12Where's Whitney?
40:13Oh, yeah, Whitney's not here.
40:14I don't know if she's coming.
40:15What do you mean?
40:17Did she say she wasn't coming?
40:19I guess she told Layla last night she couldn't come.
40:22I honestly think she...
40:24Do you know why?
40:25Why isn't she coming?
40:28Wait, Whitney's not coming?
40:29You're like the worst liar ever.
40:31I know.
40:32Just be honest.
40:32That's sad.
40:33Layla knows, I don't know.
40:34You guys don't have a friendship,
40:35so she felt like she didn't need to come today
40:37because you guys don't have a friendship.
40:39Oh, well, that's news to me.
40:41I don't want to be the one to have to bring it up.
40:43She was the messenger.
40:44I was just hoping you wouldn't notice,
40:46so I wouldn't have to say anything.
40:46That she's not here?
40:48The tension between Whitney and Taylor
40:51is very tangible with them at all times.
40:56It's like, you're either team Taylor
40:58or you are team Whitney.
41:00I feel like they both love the spotlight in different ways,
41:03but they both have this very alpha female energy,
41:07and that seems to be the bigger issue.
41:12You're welcome.
41:13Do you know this?
41:14What?
41:15Yeah.
41:16Because she said she's out for it.
41:16Yeah, do you?
41:17We have no friendship.
41:18Bye.
41:21Bye.
41:24Hello?
41:25Hey, Whitney?
41:27Yeah.
41:28This is Leontay's mom.
41:29How's it going?
41:31Good, what's up?
41:32Good.
41:33I was just calling because I noticed you weren't here.
41:35Your mom called Whitney.
41:37Oh my God.
41:40Yeah.
41:41Taylor's mom called Whitney.
41:44I would die if my mom did that.
41:46What is going on?
41:49I don't know.
41:50It's more of a conversation between me and Taylor.
41:57There's a clear division in mom talk.
42:00Sinners versus saints.
42:02Zach's parents are very conservative.
42:04They don't smoke, they don't drink.
42:06I thought it was a graduation party.
42:08You guys are all going.
42:10We're hosting Luca's baby blessing.
42:12It's like super sacred and spiritual.
42:15You just don't want any bad energy.
42:17I didn't know we were uninvited.
42:18That was to hurt you.
42:19It's kind of like the mean girls in a sense
42:21because it's like them three against the world.
42:22Demi, I have a gift for you though.
42:25Oh my God.
42:29This was completely intimate and off the table.
42:32It is very hypocritical because she wants
42:34to create this safe space with mom talk.
42:37I just think it's below the belt.
42:39Oh my God.