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00:00But I also think, sorry to interrupt you there, I also think that it's in Vladimir Putin's best interest to drag this out as much as he possibly can.
00:08And I think the longer he's able to draw this, the conversations, the negotiations out, then I think that that means on the ground, he's able to make more inroads.
00:20And if there is ever to be a ceasefire or a truce, I think it would be so much tougher for anyone to demand that he give up land that he's already claimed.