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  • 20/05/2025
The future of Scotch whisky in changing times

Hosted by Scottish family business McLaren Packaging, in association with The Scotsman

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00:00Hello, I'm Rosy McGallagher, Head of Business and Commercial Content at The Scotsman.
00:03We're at Birnbegal Castle on Dalmeny Estate in Edinburgh on a lovely sunny day.
00:08We're hosting an event with McLaren Packaging, discussing the future of Scotch whisky and changing times.
00:13We've had two panel sessions on the future of Scotch and on sustainability.
00:17Please have such a large audience from the whisky industry and its supply chain
00:20to hear what was discussed today and create a legacy for the future.
00:23So we've organised today to bring together a wide range of our customers and people associated with the industry
00:31to share views, ideas, because we're in some really challenging times just now.
00:37There's a lot of economic uncertainty, there's a lot of pressure and focus and sustainability
00:40and we felt it was important to enable and bring everybody together to have a discussion
00:45and hopefully today has been able to take away some new ideas and thought perspectives back to their business.
00:50So I think for me, getting together for these kind of discussions is really useful just to meet other people from the industry.
00:57So instead of reading up on things, you can actually chat face to face with people
01:01and understand what changes they're making in their distillery, what challenges they're facing
01:06and building in the economic backdrop into some of the sustainability stuff that we're working on
01:14and really getting in behind the kind of headlines that we put forward as distilleries to try and understand,
01:20OK, this is what you're doing, but what's the real background, how much work went into that?
01:24Because we can work really diligently in our own sites and understand exactly what we're doing,
01:30but you need to sometimes step back and see it from an industry perspective
01:34and try and understand how what you're doing contributes to the industry.
01:39I don't know, it depends. Sometimes they're important, sometimes they're not important.
01:45Sometimes they have an opportunity for people to talk about sustainability and having talked about it,
01:49they think that's enough.
01:51You know, it's a bit like when you say to your partner, I am going to change,
01:55and you think you have, but you actually care on doing the same stuff.
01:58So I think it depends on whether you get people actually gain inspiration and change or not,
02:04and I think that you'll only find that out after the event.
02:06So you have to have the events anyway.
02:08I think it also depends on who is convening it.
02:11So I think the good thing about this event is that McLaren packaging are actually walking the walk
02:15when it comes to that kind of stuff.
02:16They're really trying and thinking about it, and they also admit, which I like, that they're not perfect.
02:21So I think that convening power is important, and it comes from a place of authenticity,
02:27and they still say there's a journey to go on.
02:29So I think this one's probably more important because they can demonstrate the art of the possible
02:33whilst saying there's still further work to do.
02:36A lot of these events offer people to sit around and go, wouldn't it be nice if?
02:39And then they go, yes, and then they think they've done the job, and they go back to that.
02:42Normal jobs, and don't do anything different.
02:45As Peter Drucker once said, culture each strategy for breakfast.
02:48My key takeaway from today is to talk more and share ideas,
02:53because in the room there's lots of good insight, ideas being picked up,
02:56and certainly I've got a good few topics to think about over the weekend
03:01and take back to next week at McLaren packaging.

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