- 5/20/2025
The program explores how Pakistan allegedly groomed Indian influencers and bloggers as potential assets. It reveals details of communication between YouTuber Jyothi Malhotra and Pakistani officials, including requests for information about border areas. The investigation spans multiple agencies and examines international travels, deleted messages, and narrative pushing in videos. Several other influencers are also under scrutiny for potential links to Pakistani operatives. India Today brings exclusive ground reports on Operation Sindoor from Punjab and Kashmir borders. The report highlights how Indian forces used ZU-23 and L-70 air defence guns to neutralize Pakistani drones and unmanned combat aerial vehicles. A woman officer describes defending a vital airfield against multiple drone attacks. The report also covers artillery operations and forward positions along the Line of Control.
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00:00Online darlings turn into real-life traitors.
00:09Pakistan cultivating Indian spies.
00:17What secrets were on barter for our influencers?
00:22NI line of questioning exclusively accessed.
00:26Are more bloggers under agency's radar?
00:30Only on 5Live with Pooja Shali.
00:55Possibly becoming a spy for them.
00:57First, the headlines.
01:01The external affairs ministry briefing the MP delegation as India gears up for mega diplomatic exercise
01:07to expose Pakistan-sponsored terrorism.
01:10The members of parliament will be headed now to over 30 countries.
01:17Bharatiya Janata Party and Congress have indulged into a meme face-off.
01:22BJP accusing Rahul Gandhi of towing the Pakistan line.
01:25Congress hits back with a caricature of Prime Minister Modi and Jai Shankar
01:30saying they in fact exposed the operation to Pakistan.
01:38India Today's exclusive ground reports from forward positions never seen before ground reports
01:43where Operation Sindhu strikes were executed from India Today's team of defence reporters
01:47showing our military might.
01:49Akash Teer, Desi Power Guns.
02:15Meanwhile India is very clear.
02:17Rejecting Pakistan's plea to revive the Indus water treaty.
02:20India says old terms of the treaty stands dead.
02:23Will not breach the international rules though.
02:26But asserts, will take our share of water.
02:30For too long India's kindness has been misused by Pakistan.
02:37On the ground in Bengaluru situation not looking good.
02:40Three deaths have been confirmed.
02:42One a 12 year old child.
02:44A 63 year old man electrocuted in Bengaluru while
02:48look at this.
02:49Congress government was busy in an anniversary celebration.
03:12How was Pakistan trying to develop Jyoti Malhotra and others as possible spies?
03:24Assets who could help Pakistan at least with the narrative warfare.
03:28We have the inside scoop.
03:29This is very important.
03:30Remember this is carefully cultivated over months sometimes years
03:34of how someone who you believe can be used
03:37for different strategies when it comes to Pakistan.
03:41Jyoti Malhotra an influencer blogger was in regular contact
03:44with one of the Pakistan High Commission staffer Dhanush.
03:47Now this Dhanush was in touch with several others too.
03:50They had been in contact for over a year at least.
03:54During this time we are told at least till March 2025.
03:57But the agency started to crack down.
04:00The information has come to us.
04:02The two individuals were in touch and not just communication
04:05but sharing details and information.
04:08Now to what extent did that happen within a year?
04:11We are waiting for further clarity on that.
04:13But investigation into this encrypted communication channels are also surfacing.
04:18You are looking at the visuals.
04:19That's Dhanush on your screens with Jyoti Malhotra.
04:22What possibly started as a usual meeting, influencers interacting with officials
04:28clearly then developed into a communication that could have led
04:32already we are told to certain sharing of information.
04:35Arvind Ojha joins me.
04:37He is tracking all the latest.
04:38He is talking to the investigators as well.
04:40Arvind, it is very important to explain this.
04:42Everything is not important than military installation or national security revelation.
04:47How Pakistan wants to develop and use influencers and bloggers
04:52and how they are successful in using them.
04:57Pooja, first of all, what you said in the first line is very important
05:01and it is a very accurate line.
05:02It is not necessary.
05:03The secret agency of Pakistan or different spy agencies
05:07are not necessary only for the details of military installation.
05:12In this matter, in Jyoti's case, the investigators say that
05:17the people of Pak ISI were slowly developing Jyoti as an asset.
05:24And now this is the initial investigation.
05:26Some chats have also been touched by Jyoti.
05:28But if you have seen Jyoti's video after the Pahalgam attack,
05:33then it is clear that a narrative was being set.
05:37This was being tried to tell through Jyoti
05:40that the Pahalgam attack is somewhere or the other an intelligence failure
05:45and there are many stories behind it.
05:47There is a failure of the Indian government.
05:49So there was a doubt about this.
05:52Apart from that, some chats have also been touched by Jyoti's agencies
05:56in which she is talking to a person from the Pak High Commission in Delhi
06:01in which he was taking details around the Tari border
06:05when Jyoti was crossing the border and going to Pakistan on a valid visa.
06:09So he was taking information about that.
06:12So in total, if we talk now,
06:14the agencies believe that some evidence has also been erased by Jyoti.
06:19Some electronic gadgets, some chats have been deleted
06:22because she was in regular contact with Danish.
06:25Let me tell you one more thing which is very important for our viewers.
06:29In the Pak High Commission,
06:32apart from the Pak High Commissioner,
06:35all the staff like office desk or visa staff,
06:40they are mostly people from Pakistan's crucial agency ISI
06:45who are given postings there, number one.
06:48Number two, most people's names have changed.
06:52This is not the first incident.
06:54Earlier also, the Delhi Police Special Cell has done such investigations.
07:01Once, in Delhi's Karol Bagh,
07:04people associated with the Pak High Commission were properly stinged
07:08and arrested by the Militant Intelligence team.
07:11So in Jyoti's case, it seems that this is an initial investigation.
07:15She is not telling the whole story.
07:18But the ISI officers or Danish,
07:21the people who wanted her to work,
07:25they were successful to a large extent.
07:28But there was a huge loss.
07:30Before that, this whole racket was exposed.
07:33And this is profiling.
07:35Arvind, as you are telling us, this is profiling.
07:37It starts with the narrative warfare.
07:39How much is a person willing to push?
07:41And at this juncture, that with Danish,
07:43this Jyoti Malhotra and others got caught.
07:45Arvind, thank you very much for these details.
07:47And there's a reason you see Ehsanur Rahim as the name on this man,
07:51who I am constantly referring to as Danish.
07:54These two aliases are well known.
07:56Possibly, these are not even his real names.
07:59Could be a third name that he uses with regard to Pakistan.
08:03For now, that individual is persona non grata.
08:06He's been now expelled and told to head back to Pakistan.
08:10But why this development is concerning?
08:12It isn't just about one arrest or ten.
08:15A new WhatsApp conversation between an ISI agent
08:18and the blogger Jyoti Malhotra has raised concerns.
08:21What was in that conversation?
08:23Why did it catch the attention of the investigators?
08:26What are they looking at in this report?
08:34The Pakistan espionage case is getting murkier day by day.
08:40Influencer and YouTuber Jyoti Malhotra,
08:42who was recently arrested for alleged spying,
08:44is now being grilled by a joint team of the NIA,
08:47Haryana Police and the Intelligence Bureau.
08:51A WhatsApp chat allegedly between Jyoti
08:53and a Pakistani ISI officer named Ali Hassan has surfaced.
08:59In the chat, the ISI agent is asking Jyoti
09:02if during her visit to Attari border,
09:04she saw anyone getting special protocol,
09:07to which Jyoti responded that she did not get any special treatment.
09:12The ISI agent again asked if she spotted any undercover person,
09:16to which Jyoti replied she did not see anything suspicious.
09:22Sources say the ISI was allegedly trying to use Jyoti
09:25to identify Indian intelligence agents.
09:28During questioning, Jyoti allegedly lied about her relationship
09:32with another Pakistani operative named Danish.
09:35She allegedly deleted some chats.
09:37Now her two phones and laptop have been sent for forensic analysis
09:41to retrieve erased data.
09:44Investigators are also focusing on Jyoti's international travels.
09:50In May 2014, she stayed in Pakistan for over 20 days
09:55and soon after travelled to China.
09:58Her trips to Bangladesh and other neighbouring countries
10:01also under the scanner.
10:03Jyoti is said to be evasive during interrogation.
10:07According to police sources,
10:09she has refused to answer key questions.
10:39India Today has accessed one conversation.
11:07India Today has accessed one conversation
11:09between allegedly an ISI agent
11:11who is clearly trying to gather some information from this vlogger
11:15and what is Jyoti Malhotra saying in return.
11:17Now the agent appears to ask Jyoti Malhotra
11:20when you went to Attari, the Attari-Vaga border,
11:23who all received a protocol there?
11:26Now this ISI agent, remember, is not directly an ISI agent,
11:29possibly a friend, an acquaintance, someone
11:31who you have become close to over the past few months.
11:34Now, Jyoti Malhotra appears to respond with a question saying,
11:37who received it?
11:39I didn't get any, I didn't get any protocol
11:41and I don't really understand what you're asking.
11:43Then he goes on to further ask very clearly,
11:46did you spot any undercover person?
11:49We can usually tell by observing who gets a certain protocol.
11:53And then Jyoti Malhotra responds to that,
11:55no, it wasn't that obvious.
11:57Now, this is an odd conversation to be having
12:01with someone who you're just in communication with,
12:04with regard to Pakistan or the High Commission.
12:06There's no clarity in it, who was being referred to,
12:09but there was at Attari-Vaga, the visit,
12:12her vlogs are on evidence on that,
12:14who was trying to understand if someone was receiving
12:17a certain protocol there?
12:19But now what are the agencies trying to ask?
12:22She's in custody, according to information coming in,
12:25she's not very cooperative, but the line of questioning
12:28is very direct and very strict when it comes
12:31to what exactly happened.
12:32Question number one, who helped you in your Pakistan trips?
12:36Not once but twice when you visit Pakistan in and out.
12:39It's not that easy, let me tell you.
12:41So who was facilitating those visits in and out of Pakistan?
12:45How and when did you meet Danish?
12:47Danish is that one man as Kingpin, now expelled from India,
12:51his background is being linked to clearly some of these accused.
12:57That meeting could hold clues about what exactly unfolded.
13:00Question number three, who helped you with visa funding
13:04and content ideas?
13:05Especially when you're recording in Pakistan,
13:08was there someone locally trying to help you and understand
13:11and perhaps push a certain pro-Pakistan content?
13:14What about the financial incentives
13:16and the visa clearances?
13:18Not very easy to come through for Pakistan.
13:20Why did you extend your Pakistan visa in 2024?
13:24She was on a visit, rightly so,
13:26but then she overstayed for one more month.
13:29Why?
13:30Who did she meet in that one month when the visa was extended
13:33and why was the visa extended for her?
13:35Who decided, question number five,
13:38the tone and messaging of these pro-Pakistan videos?
13:42This is very important.
13:43This is to help understand was someone perhaps encouraging her,
13:47expecting her to push a certain narrative.
13:51Then, it is in the aftermath of the Pahalgam massacre
13:55on 22nd April, a video of hers has emerged
13:57where she's asking everyone to be cautious.
14:00Everyone is possibly being blamed as much,
14:02the citizens who have to be careful,
14:04the government, the Indian armed forces.
14:06But not once does she mention Pakistan
14:08where clearly the evidence shows that Pakistan was behind
14:11the Pahalgam massacre.
14:12So this question is being put to her to explain
14:15why did you blame everyone else,
14:16especially even the armed forces,
14:17but not as much the country of Pakistan?
14:20Did you speak to any Pakistan agent
14:23after the Pahalgam massacre?
14:25Because remember, after a certain brutality
14:28and crime of that nature, there can be a realization.
14:31But if she was still in communication
14:33with someone from Pakistan,
14:34that is bound to raise questions.
14:36What about some of the encrypted devices,
14:38deleted messages on Telegram, WhatsApp, Snapchat,
14:42and other social media applications?
14:45Now comes a direct question number nine.
14:47Did you do a certain recce or religious sites
14:51of border regions?
14:53Now that border region can as much be in Pakistan,
14:55but of course, most likely referring to India.
14:58Was there a certain video done of any of the locations,
15:01sensitive, religious, otherwise,
15:04that if not directly, if knowingly or unknowingly,
15:07could have helped Pakistan?
15:09This is very important.
15:10I want to bring in my colleague Shreya Chatterjee on this.
15:12She's, in fact, constantly ensuring
15:15that she's trying to get further information on that
15:18from the investigators.
15:19Tell me about this, because I noticed, Shreya,
15:21very clear line of questioning.
15:23It should be very easy to accept, deny, explain.
15:26What are you picking up about why these questions,
15:29and how has her response been?
15:32Well, you know, Pooja, it all pans out
15:34during the timeline of her established contact
15:39with Ehsan Rahim, who is also Aliaz Danish,
15:43the Pakistan embassy official,
15:45now announced as personal non-grata.
15:47Apparently, we've been told by our sources
15:49that for almost 17 months,
15:52there was an active contact between both of them.
15:54That is being largely looked at the time period
15:56whether Ehsan was allegedly developing her
15:59into a deep asset.
16:00These are words used by the investigative agencies
16:03who are right now looking at her case.
16:05They're looking at a textbook example
16:07of how hybrid modern warfare is being used
16:10to put soft power narrative.
16:12And that's exactly the entire line of questioning,
16:14whether she was in direct contact with these officials,
16:17whether a line of videos was sent,
16:19whether she was getting directive,
16:21whether this was in form of encrypted videos,
16:23any kind of message formats,
16:24or also her entire timeline with Ehsan
16:27is something that is under the role of investigation.
16:30This is a multi-agency investigation,
16:32including Haryana Police, NIA, IB,
16:34as well as the military IB.
16:36And clearly it's interesting to see how it pans out
16:38because remember,
16:39as we continue to talk about Jyoti's case,
16:41this is not just one.
16:42We have at least 11 similar more arrests
16:45that have taken place across Haryana,
16:47Punjab, and Uttar Pradesh,
16:49who are equally under the radar
16:51of parallel such networks
16:53that were also being developed.
16:55This is something which is an interesting case
16:58and highlight,
16:59especially after the entire Pahalgam attack
17:01and Operation Sindhu.
17:02This is how the country is also prepping itself
17:05as their method of counter-terrorism
17:07to preempt any such incidents in the future,
17:09if at all there are sleeper cells active.
17:11These are all part of these operations
17:14that we will continue to see in times to come.
17:17Stay on with me and thank you
17:19for these updates that are coming in.
17:21And remember, we maintain,
17:22this is a developing story,
17:23as Shreya is also maintaining,
17:25it's a part of investigation,
17:26but the charges are too serious to ignore,
17:28especially at a juncture
17:29when we've had a Pahalgam massacre,
17:31when Pakistan constantly is aiming
17:34to do much worse
17:35and at least protect its narrative
17:37and best would be via Indian assets.
17:39But why is this Danish name constantly coming in?
17:42How is that connected to Jyoti Malhotra?
17:44Here's what I have from the investigators.
17:47Multiple names.
17:48Danish, if you may call him,
17:50Ehsanur Rahim,
17:51he's a Pakistan High Commission staffer,
17:53now person on On Grata,
17:54has been expelled from India.
17:56He came in contact through someone
17:59with Jyoti Malhotra,
18:00who's a Haryana-based YouTuber.
18:03And this is where the YouTubers,
18:04the vloggers,
18:05the influencers really gather attention.
18:08It wasn't just her.
18:09According to our information,
18:11Priyanka Senapati,
18:12an Odisha-based YouTuber,
18:14who's also Jyoti's friend,
18:16came in contact with Danish again.
18:19Both of them have done videos,
18:20especially with regard to Kashmir.
18:22Jyoti Malhotra got multiple visits to Pakistan,
18:25bound to raise an eyebrow,
18:27especially with regard to a nation
18:29that's constantly trying
18:31to plan terror attacks on India.
18:33Now comes in,
18:34third influencer,
18:35Devinder Singh Dhillon,
18:37a Punjab-based Instagram creator,
18:39clicked photographs with the one,
18:41Ramesh Sotuse in Pakistan.
18:43Now why he's in the dock,
18:45according to investigation,
18:46according to our sources,
18:47he allegedly shared some images
18:51in Punjab Cantonment area
18:54with agents in Pakistan.
18:56This is, again,
18:57as part of the probe,
18:58that is being ascertained further.
18:59Now comes in,
19:00Ramesh Singh Arora,
19:01I bring his name
19:02because he's the part of Pakistan's
19:04Gurdwara Prabhandar Committee.
19:06So possibly they came in touch,
19:07wanted to visit religious sites.
19:09India-Pakistan, remember, of course,
19:11as one nation before 1947,
19:13has had religious connections,
19:15families who may have wanted to visit.
19:17But is this all a backdrop
19:20in trying to get these assets
19:22who can be manipulated,
19:25especially with regard to ideological influence,
19:28who believe India-Pakistan can be friends
19:30and then push the pro-Pakistan narrative.
19:33This is very important to remember
19:35while influencers,
19:36vloggers who have a massive following
19:38are being contacted by Pakistan.
19:41There have been peace appeals,
19:43peddling propagandas.
19:45Influencer Jyoti Malhotra,
19:46among other 11 who've been arrested,
19:48is on the top for a reason.
19:50Was there a certain attempt
19:52to mask a Pakistani image
19:54through our vloggers?
19:56Initially, possibly unknowingly,
19:59but then could it be developed
20:01into an asset too?
20:02Multiple visits to Pakistan,
20:04showcasing a sanitized narrative,
20:06all of this, remember,
20:07with incredible amount of hospitality
20:09being showered in Pakistan
20:12and is bound to possibly influence a few.
20:15But there is clearly,
20:16amid all the evidence on your screen right now,
20:18raises one question.
20:20Was Pakistan aiming to cultivate Indian assets?
20:26And we are in Pakistan.
20:28Welcome to Pakistan.
20:29He has come from Pakistan.
20:31Pakistan is a very good thing.
20:33Would you like to say something
20:34to the people of India?
20:35I would like to say something to India.
20:36I am very happy to meet you today.
20:38Thank you very much.
20:39Multani Son Halwa.
20:40Greetings, Namaste.
20:41Your Jo has reached
20:43Kartarpur Sahib Gurudwara in Pakistan.
20:46Last time when I came,
20:47it was through the Visa Free Corridor
20:49from India.
20:50India's border is only 5 km away from here.
20:56India's border is only 5 km away from here.
21:02Greetings.
21:03Greetings.
21:04How are you, Ma'am?
21:05I am absolutely fine.
21:06How are you?
21:07I am very good.
21:08I met Sir the other day.
21:10He seemed very nice.
21:11The arrangements that you have made here
21:13for us are commendable.
21:16Would you like to say something
21:17to the people of India?
21:19I would like to say to all of you,
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21:58I am going to attend Iftari in Pakistan High Commission.
22:01So yeah, I am super excited.
22:02Hello Mr. Danish.
22:03Thanks for inviting.
22:04Oh, no problem.
22:06My pleasure.
22:07My name is Manu Mehta.
22:08Manu Mehta, okay.
22:09Nice meeting you.
22:10Let's go.
22:12We have finally reached Pakistan High Commission.
22:15Hello.
22:16Hello.
22:17This is our final entry.
22:19Wow, looks great.
22:21Hello.
22:22How are you, sir?
22:23Do you recognize me, sir?
22:24We have met you before.
22:25Yes, we met last time.
22:27Hello, ma'am.
22:28How are you?
22:29You are Danish's wife, right?
22:30What?
22:31You are Danish's wife, right?
22:32No, I am not.
22:33No?
22:34You are mistaken.
22:35Look, your visa is cancelled.
22:36You are all familiar with the program of Pakistan Embassy.
22:41They have also done a lot of good tours of Pakistan.
22:44And they have told a lot of people about it.
22:46Yes.
22:47How are you feeling on this occasion of Pakistan Day?
22:49I am feeling good.
22:50We were invited here.
22:51It was a special invitation.
22:52This video is called…
22:54Yes, you say.
22:55Let's take a picture with you.
22:58They are getting married soon.
22:59Should I reveal the date?
23:00Yes, do it.
23:0114th?
23:02April.
23:03April.
23:04The next day after Baisakhi, right?
23:05Yes.
23:06So, we are already invited.
23:07We did it ourselves.
23:08No, no.
23:09They have invited all the YouTubers from all over India.
23:12And it was an open invitation.
23:13And plus Danish.
23:14Yes.
23:17It is very wrong for any country.
23:20If anyone has supported those terrorists,
23:23then it is a very wrong thing.
23:25And we ourselves are responsible for it.
23:27Our government is responsible.
23:29Because that security was missing from somewhere.
23:33That security there…
23:37So, remember that this wasn't an immediate,
23:39spontaneous, sudden arrest.
23:41There was clearly a protocol followed
23:43which was monitoring the social media handles,
23:46the reactions, the videos for months.
23:48And that's when the agencies realized what was amiss.
23:51But here's what we have found out.
23:53This is big exclusive.
23:54Try and understand what was happening.
23:55She's after all an influencer, a vlogger,
23:57which means online engagement.
23:59Did Jyoti Malhotra's followers surge incredibly
24:03post her visit, not once, but at least twice,
24:06to Pakistan in 2023?
24:09Look at this.
24:10This is what our team of investigators,
24:12especially with regard to DIU and OSINT have found.
24:14In 2023 was her first trip to Pakistan.
24:18By March 2023, 23,000 followers have jumped.
24:21Look at the graph that suddenly manages to witness
24:25this rise right after she returns to Pakistan
24:28or during that visit.
24:29By 2024, she makes another trip, this time to Lahore.
24:33And of course, showing the lovely narrative,
24:35good people, everything is great when it comes to Pakistan.
24:38By April, by her return, 38,000 followers have come across.
24:43Then there was a visit to Pahelga.
24:45Not to Baysan, but to other areas in South Kashmir
24:48in Pahelga in December 2024.
24:50Then 2025, third trip to Pakistan.
24:53Multiple visits to a country,
24:55and I can tell you it's not that easy
24:56to get visa to Pakistan.
24:58By March 2025, 24,000 followers
25:01suddenly show a graph again.
25:04I want to bring in our editor OSINT,
25:06Ankit Kumar, for the latest on that.
25:07Ankit, when you're tracking this, and I'm looking at it,
25:10now what does this signify, one,
25:13if there's a sudden surge after her Pakistan visit,
25:16how does that impact or help any YouTuber, vlogger,
25:19or someone who indulges in online engagement?
25:22And three, how does this possibly raise a suspicion
25:26for the investigators that she could be perhaps
25:29doing a quid pro quo situation?
25:31Well Pooja, why would an Indian content creator
25:35become a Pakistani agent overnight, right?
25:38That is the moot question.
25:39That is the moot question.
25:40And we are looking for a motive here.
25:43So the answer to that question is in a three-letter word,
25:46it's called PIO, Pakistani Intelligence Officials.
25:49Now back in 70s and 80s, you had people
25:51who would kind of adopt new identities
25:53across the borders through Nepal, Bangladesh,
25:55come here, live as somebody else,
25:57and then try to forge connections.
26:00In 90s, you had phone connections all over India,
26:03so you would use local exchanges, fake identities,
26:06and try to infiltrate into government systems.
26:08In mid-2000s, maybe social media came,
26:11you had a lot of cases, including DIDO,
26:13everywhere else where forged identity of Indian models
26:17were used to honey trap a lot of government agents.
26:20Now what we are seeing is a new trend,
26:22a new trend where PIOs are targeting
26:25Indian content creators.
26:26What does a content creator want?
26:28They want access, they want travel.
26:30And the answer is in those numbers.
26:32Every time Jyoti Malhotra was given access to travel,
26:35she gained in terms of subscribers, right?
26:37She gained in terms of the monetization.
26:40So access for engagement is the method,
26:43and it's a very new pattern that we are seeing,
26:45a very new method adopted by the PIOs
26:47that seems to be working, that seems to be at play here.
26:51And eventually we live in the online world.
26:54In many ways, a lot of information warfare,
26:56Instagram, YouTube, is help for it,
26:59and Pakistan really knowing where it can hurt India.
27:02It doesn't have to be a military strike.
27:04They, of course, cannot succeed in that.
27:06But possibly online narrative warfare
27:08is where they can come in.
27:09Ankit, I appreciate you tracking all the latest
27:11and this exclusive inside information
27:13that you've brought to us.
27:14These are, remember, multi-layered developments
27:16that are coming in.
27:17But now look at this carefully,
27:19what India today research has found.
27:21How does Pakistan groom Indian spies?
27:25It shouldn't be that easy, and it is not.
27:27It starts with, let me tell you,
27:29an ideological influence and emotional manipulation.
27:33Now what does this mean?
27:34This can be very direct and forthright,
27:36who you believe is possibly angry with India for some reason,
27:39or you can find a reason to immediately connect with,
27:42or two, someone who can be easily manipulated
27:45to believe that Pakistan is a great nation
27:48and will be willing to work with anti-India interests.
27:51But number two, access.
27:53Visa privilege to Pakistan.
27:55Remember, most of the times we are in attention mode
27:58when it comes to our neighbor nation.
27:59But what if you were to regularly, multiple times,
28:02get a visa privilege to visit historical, religious sites,
28:06or some old family sites because there's been a connect?
28:09And that privilege may come with certain quid pro quo.
28:13Number three is very important.
28:15This comes with tracking.
28:16That can take weeks and months.
28:18A financial incentive.
28:20It can be a free trip, a vacation at an international level.
28:23It can be to someone against poverty who needs assistance.
28:27That's where financial incentive comes in.
28:29Pakistan agents are tracking all of this online.
28:32And then if you manage to come around Pakistan, its network,
28:37access to VVIPs, Mariam Nawaz,
28:39isn't that easy to have an interview with?
28:41That's what a Jyoti Malhotra YouTuber from Haryana managed to get.
28:45Number four.
28:46There is then recruitment for specific skills.
28:49Please understand it's not just about going to a military camp area
28:53or revealing national security.
28:54You don't have to be in the armed forces.
28:56But what kind of skill can you have?
28:58Photography.
28:59That can help with recce.
29:01A pro-Pakistan content.
29:03That can help push a narrative warfare in favor of Pakistan.
29:06And that is what is done with online tracking.
29:09And then comes in, of course, this is usually in the end,
29:12and this is usually with someone who could be in a position of influence or power.
29:17That's where honey trap and blackmail comes in.
29:20You must have come across some of these incidents in the past few years.
29:23Sadly, that has happened.
29:25There are multiple layers to which this takes time with months,
29:29especially the influencing comes with privilege, access, trying to be friendly,
29:33not realizing what that Pakistan network may want from.
29:37So we are quoting multiple news reports and research to help you understand
29:40how spies are groomed over months and years by Pakistan.
29:45And there's a reason I bring this to you.
29:47Like I said, it doesn't have to be a military intervention.
29:51Remember 2611, how Pakistani spies managed to help with recce.
29:57And these were known operatives.
29:59Lashkar-e-Taiba is based in Pakistan.
30:01We're all aware of it.
30:02But remember David Coleman-Headley?
30:04Now, David Coleman-Headley opened a travel agency in Mumbai.
30:08He came as a travel agent so that there could be perhaps more facilitation
30:12that could be done, not just with Pakistan, but other countries.
30:15It was only a front for his other terror activities.
30:18He wanted a base in Mumbai.
30:20Someone locally, sadly, clearly helped him.
30:23Then Tahawur Rana.
30:24Till then, was helping David Coleman-Headley and others
30:28in providing logistics, communication, and contacts here in India.
30:32Eventually, he also landed up and stayed at the Taj Hotel, did recce in 2008.
30:38Eventually, all of this led to 2611 terror attacks.
30:42Both of them didn't have to do anything directly,
30:44but they were willingly a part of the terror network.
30:48The spies, remember, usually at a heightened level work like them.
30:51Sometimes it's unknowingly, or like I showed you, the incentives that come in
30:55and unknowingly can be helping Pakistan.
30:57This I'm quoting, of course, from the NIA chart sheet.
31:00It's very important to help understand how Pakistan is grooming spies.
31:05Be very careful, cautious, who you're interacting with online
31:09and what could they need or want in return.
31:12Let's move on now.
31:13This is about the political bickering that has erupted in our country.
31:16Till now, all parties were on the same page for the nation,
31:19but now Congress and BJP have indulged in a war bickering,
31:24in a political bickering with regard to Operation Sindhu.
31:27Amid all of this, the BJP has come in to ridicule Rahul Gandhi,
31:31our leader of opposition in the Lok Sabha.
31:33They are claiming he's a mouthpiece of Pakistan.
31:36Congress Malika Arjun Khadga isn't too happy about it.
31:38He's in turn mocking Operation Sindhu, as also Chitput, so to say.
31:43Now here's the political storm.
31:45Why otherwise a bold military strike united all the parties a few days ago?
31:51Today, there are memes and caricatures coming in,
31:54BJP charging at Congress, Congress hitting back at the BJP.
32:01Big political war over Operation Sindhu, which punished Pakistan terror.
32:06Congress Chief Malika Arjun Khadga insulted Operation Sindhu,
32:10calling it a Chitput war,
32:12which translates into a small-scale, low-key offensive.
32:42The BJP earlier fired a poster to salute Rahul Gandhi,
32:57posting a mocked, conjoined image of Rahul and Pakistan Army Chief Asim Munir,
33:02calling Rahul Gandhi a Pakistani stooge,
33:06who is out to demoralize forces by seeking details of operational losses
33:11suffered by Indian forces.
33:17BJP claimed that Rahul is eyeing Nishan-e-Pakistan,
33:21the highest civilian honour in Pakistan.
33:41Defending Rahul Gandhi, the Congress hit back hard,
34:10and targeted PM Narendra Modi,
34:12claiming that he visited then-Pak PM Nawaz Sharif's house to have biryani
34:17and deserves the Nishan-e-Pakistan title.
34:41Earlier, Rahul Gandhi had accused External Affairs Minister S.J. Shankar
34:48of tipping off Pakistan ahead of Operation Sindhu, using this remark.
35:11The Ministry of External Affairs claimed Rahul Gandhi's claims are completely false,
35:18and the warning to Pakistan was served in early phase of Operation Sindhu,
35:22citing this warning by India's DGMO.
35:40The request was brusquely turned down,
35:43with an intimation that a severe response was inevitable and in the offing.
35:53The Air Force had earlier refused to diverge details of war assets lost by India amid Operation Sindhu.
36:04Is politics on India's big Pahalgam revenge not reprehensible,
36:08and why can't our Netas value and honour heroes who decimated Pakistan terror infrastructure?
36:15Bureau Report, India Today.
36:38ZU-23, L-70 air defence guns.
36:40Gaurav Sawant is telling us about how these were used extensively to protect our air bases,
36:45ammunition depots and our population.
36:48Look carefully at this anti-aircraft gun, this is the ZU-23.
36:52It's mounted on a Tatra truck.
36:54This is a combination that enhances speed and mobility.
36:57He also spoke to a woman officer, how she defended a critical airfield.
37:03In the Israel vs Hamas war,
37:06Hamas would send swarm drones and make Israel spend a lot of money
37:11firing their expensive missiles costing millions of dollars.
37:14But here, the Indian Army is a step ahead.
37:17Now, just for some drones costing a couple of hundred or a thousand dollars,
37:22you wouldn't want to spend missiles that cost lakhs and lakhs of rupees.
37:28That is why the ZU-23 and this L-70 becomes the weapon of choice.
37:34Relatively inexpensive,
37:36ammunition that you're making in India,
37:39hopefully you'll also be making these guns in India,
37:42it's relatively cheaper to take down a drone that costs a couple of thousand dollars.
37:47And this is where you stay a step ahead of the adversary.
37:52Modernize, improve, innovate and stay a couple of steps ahead
37:58to ensure that terrorism is no longer a low-cost option for the adversary.
38:02Now, if you have to fire, fire a Brahmos and take down his airbases,
38:07airfields, vital assets and vital points and most important,
38:10the prestige of the Pakistani Armed Forces
38:13that was devastated and decimated in Operation Sindoor.
38:17With cameraman Sanjay Kumar at the western border in Punjab,
38:21Gaurav Sawant for India Today.
38:23The L-70 gun behind us played a very crucial role
38:27in the point defense of a strategic location
38:30that Pakistan desperately tried to target
38:33and it is my proud privilege to be with the major
38:37and for security reasons, we unfortunately cannot name her
38:40till Army officially does.
38:42Ma'am, congratulations, you've done a stellar job
38:45in protecting that vital asset.
38:47Thank you so much, thanks.
38:48And tell us more about the threat and how you engaged it.
38:52During Operation Sindoor, I was deployed at a vital airfield
38:57and I was commanding an air defense battery
39:00who was giving that air defense protection to that vital airfield.
39:03On the intervening night of 7th and 8th and on 8th night as well,
39:07the enemy attempted to overwhelm our airspace
39:11with a large number of drones from multiple directions.
39:14But our L-70 guns were ready
39:16and they rode to neutralize the enemy threat.
39:19But again on 9th night and 10th morning,
39:22they attacked us with unmanned combat aerial vehicles
39:25which were armed with lethal payloads
39:27and they executed very complex maneuvers
39:30over all our section locations and tried to engage our troops.
39:33But our gunners, they held their ground
39:35and they displayed exemplary courage in the face of the enemy
39:38and they shoot all of them one by one.
39:40This entire operation was a resounding success
39:43and with no damage to the assets, no casualties.
39:46And being an air defense gunners,
39:48we are proud to live up to the motto of
39:50Akash-e-Shatrunjahi.
39:52Absolutely. Akash-e-Shatrunjahi.
39:55No enemy in the skies
39:57and you don't permit any enemy in the sky to go back.
40:01The enemy that came in,
40:04were these only drones
40:06or was it even more lethal than unmanned combat aerial vehicles?
40:10Yes, these were drones as well as unmanned combat aerial vehicles
40:14and some of them were stand-off weapons also.
40:17But guns were ready
40:20and we were always prepared for this thing.
40:22That this time as we have seen in various conflicts
40:25that are going all across the globe,
40:27we were aware that and it was envisaged
40:30that enemy might use these drones
40:32and unmanned combat aerial vehicles.
40:34So we had refined our tactics, procedures as per that
40:38and we have trained our troops accordingly.
40:40And your radars and that integration of your radars,
40:45that actually is a game changer, isn't it ma'am?
40:48Yes, yes. As we were deployed along with the Air Force,
40:51so we got that information from Air Force as well as Army radars
40:55that what is going, what enemy assets are in the air.
40:59And we got their location, approximate direction and distance
41:02that I passed to my troops.
41:04They executed it and they engaged the target bang on.
41:08There's a saying in English,
41:10to be forewarned is to be forearmed
41:13and that's exactly the advantage
41:16with India's integrated air defence command and control system
41:19because you can see the enemy drones
41:22while they take off from their territory
41:24and gives you even a couple of minutes more
41:27makes all the difference between success and lack of success.
41:31Exactly. Sometimes it's not even minutes.
41:34Sometimes it's only a few seconds.
41:36But we are always ready and as I told you that
41:39we live up to the motto of Akash Chhatran Jai
41:41so we will never leave the enemy.
41:43We will never leave the enemy
41:46and perhaps this is not just the motto of Indian Army's air defence
41:51but of the country today.
41:54With cameraman Sanjay Kumar at the Punjab border,
41:58Gaurav Sawant for India Today.
42:02Punjab border tonight 8pm.
42:05Remember this was only an excerpt.
42:07At 8pm you will have the full exclusive
42:10from Punjab border with Gaurav Sawant.
42:12Don't miss it.
42:13Our air defence systems, our air guns
42:15and specially meeting the personnel in uniform
42:18to really understand what unfolded at the border.
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