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00:00Hey, what is up guys? It's your boy Speednir, and today we're back with the Paws 4 tier list.

00:04I apologize for back-to-back bristleback videos. I just, uh, I'm very fond of that hero,

00:09but nonetheless, we're back with something new. We're going over all of the worst to best Paws

00:144 heroes, and let's get into it. On top of that, go sign up to the GAMELY website, guys. I'm posting

00:18new content over there almost every day, and I'll see you there. All right, starting off with the

00:22worst heroes. Let's break it out. So first off, we have Monkey King, which, I mean, you will never

00:27see in the pro scene right now. You know, it's funny I say that, but I can't actually imagine

00:31that it's that bad at the highest level, mainly due to flex viability. But in your pubs, don't pick

00:37this. You're not going to have impact. Really, the impact would come from good vision and wave push.

00:42Okay, next up is Batrider. This hero got nerfed way too hard. Although it does still fill some

00:46niche roles, like good laning, in general, the execution in the mid-game is way too hard. You're

00:51not going to get value out of the hero. You're just going to fall off like a freaking rock.

00:55I saw in a comment section, someone said fall off like an anvil from a skyscraper. I actually

01:00really like that one. Then we have Tiny. I would say out of all the melee floors, Tiny is just a

01:04bit too hard to play. Number one, execution wise, like toss combo is very hard, but actually more so

01:10is the mana problems. This hero as a support is very hard to manage, mainly due to the mana pool.

01:16It's really awkward. The laning is very awkward. It's just kind of awkward. Then we have Tusk. I think

01:21Tusk at the highest level is good, mainly because you can pick it with very specific synergies to

01:25try to dominate certain lanes. It also can be played as a save. But I think, again, kind of

01:30similar to Tiny, it's very technical. You guys know how I feel about these tier lists. I'm here

01:33to make you gain rank. If you want to put all of your time into Tusk, actually don't. I don't even

01:39think if you're like the best Tusk in the world, it's going to make you shoot up an MMR. I think yes,

01:44if you understand the limits of tag team very well and like, you know, player on the axe late game,

01:49there can be value in this hero, but just in general, it's too hard. Then we have Hoodwink.

01:55I think the numbers aren't there. Honestly, like my take on Hoodwink is that the hero is

01:59conceptually very good. It one shots creep waves at some point. It has a low cooldown nuke. It's

02:06hard to kill, but the laning is just terrible. Ever since they got rid of tree bounce trickshot,

02:11the laning is just terrible. So yeah, I would not suggest picking Hoodwink. I think the hero, again,

02:18kind of just too hard to scale. The only redeeming factor of the hero, in my opinion,

02:22is the shard at the moment. I think is excellent if you know how to use it. It's just a lot of

02:27damage amp, but I just don't think like, again, kind of like Tusk, it's just a lot of single

02:34target damage and it's hard to execute properly and feel good about it. So I'd stay away. Then we

02:39have Techies and Snapfire where we start to get to a lot more magic damage. You know, you can really

02:43blow people up, have more teamfight impact, but the numbers aren't there. These heroes are both

02:47nerfed way too much. And as a result, they're just bad, but they're not that bad. Okay. Then

02:51we have Slark in the C tier. You guys have probably seen the rise of Slark in the pro scene as of late.

02:55The main reason why is teams like Paravision are using him for excellent vision game, right?

03:00The hero is the best in the game at playing the vision game. It has disengage. It literally tells

03:06you if there's a word on you. I mean, it's excellent in that regard. It also has a save in its

03:10shard. However, if you aren't playing at a Paravision level of Dota, don't play Slark.

03:18You're probably just going to feed D ward like not as many wards. Honestly, in 3k, every time I watch

03:25the games, all the wards are just on the hills anyway. So you're basically Slark on any hero,

03:30if you just know that. No, I'm kidding. But you get the point. It's just too much of a teamwork

03:35hero. Rubik, this hero. Honestly, maybe I should have put this in the D tier. This hero just has

03:40been shit for a long time. I hate having Rubik on my team. It's like the meme pause for when a core

03:45player has to play support. They pick Rubik. Then we have Marcy. I actually thought this hero would

03:49be way better at the start of the patch, but it's just like until you have BKB, you're such a bot in

03:53teamfights and the execution is too difficult. It actually is kind of like Tusk, a very teamwork heavy

03:59hero, like combo. I would actually say more accurately, it's a combo heavy hero. You got to really pick it

04:04with specific things, kind of like bio and such, or like in terms of course, stuff like PA can be

04:11really nasty. Too much of a combo hero. Then we have a Grimstroke. Same thing. Too much of a combo

04:14hero, but the hero's spells are very good. If you put time in a Grim, it can really do a lot. This

04:19is a hero with like a very high ceiling. And so if you're like one of those people that just like

04:23kind of like picking a hero, that's a little difficult and trying to min-max it. This hero with

04:27the fine art facet is really interesting. Its shard is really good. Its axe is really good. It has like

04:33a lot of scaling. The ulti can be really good. You know what I mean? But in general, the execution

04:38just tends to be a bit too much. The laning isn't the best and it is sort of a combo hero. You want

04:43to parry as well with jumpers like Storm and Tiny. Then we have Earth Spirit. You click

04:47magnetize. It's okay. You can front line. It's okay. Then we have Pudge. I mean, Hook's like a fine

04:52spell. If you hit your hooks, it's like a C tier hero. Then we have Muerta. Team Spirit thinks this

04:56hero is S tier. I don't. In pubs. Okay. Even at the pro scene, I don't think this is an

05:03S tier hero. I think the value, so the value of Muerta is that the hero is a decent laner. Not

05:09great anymore. It used to be S tier. Now it's just like a B tier laner ever since all the nerfs.

05:14You buy an Atos, one of the best items in the game right now. You set up with your spells. So you're

05:20a great setup hero. And I would say maybe most importantly in Muerta is that she's a frontliner.

05:25Yes, you heard that right. Muerta's a frontliner. So if you understand how to like bait with Muerta,

05:30I think this hero shoots up to like high B tier, right? Because of her ult and like the W. It's

05:35like a vision hero. It's more of a melee frontliner than a backliner. And I think if you understand

05:40that, the hero goes up, but most players don't. And the scaling is there with like

05:44Glidemere, Ags, 20 talent. It can be interesting. Furion. I think Furion's a decent support,

05:50but you tend to just want spells in pubs and he just doesn't have that. You kind of have to learn how

05:54to scale. Otherwise, it's just a bad hero. Then we have Earthshaker in the B tier. I think this

05:58hero in pubs is just really, really good. It just teamfights very well. You know,

06:02classic Echo, Fisher, just high impact teamfight spells. But other than that, it's just fine.

06:07Clinks. I would say in terms of clinks, I actually do believe in this hero as a support more than

06:11probably other people do. It's landing stage is okay. It's one of the best vision game heroes.

06:17So not the best in pubs. You know, I always kind of stress that I think like in team environments,

06:22if you're playing in like some sort of league, this hero can be a lot better because it can give

06:26really good vision. It places exceptionally good wards. You know what I mean? That's a big

06:30reason like teams want these rickies and slarks, right? So that you have, and bounty hunters,

06:34so that you have a good vision. And so if you're, if you're min-maxing that and you're communicating

06:38and playing around it, it can be awesome. And this hero scales very well. I think the support build

06:43is actually just a bloodthorn rush and you play to be like some noxious solo kill hero around the map.

06:48Then we have Darkulo. This hero is just fine. Just got nerfed too hard. Some teamfights,

06:52some pick off good laner or solid laner. Then we have Zeus. Same thing. I mean, this hero just

06:56got nerfed too hard. It's just kind of one of those heroes where I love it conceptually as a support

07:00because it just does a lot of damage. It tends to be a good laner, but yeah, they just hit it too

07:04hard a few too many times. I think it's actually a little underrated right now. I do believe that

07:09people like to think about Zeus a tad more. I do believe that this hero is still okay,

07:13but it's mainly over overshadowed by some of the other damage heroes like, well, they're on this list,

07:20but Ringmaster and Jakiro are just kind of better Zeuses. Then we have Weaver. I think this hero

07:25with Hivemind is very good, actually, still. I think the Vessel variant of Weaver, even though

07:31they nerfed this hero, basically the main nerf to Weaver is that you can Yules the bug. If you're

07:35against a Weaver, buy Yules. And that is the unfortunate part of current state of Weaver.

07:39You want to buy Vessel and put Vessel bugs on a sup, but unfortunately, you can just Yules both of them.

07:46Previously, you couldn't Yules the bug. So if you were a sup and you bought a Yules against Weaver,

07:49you would dispel the Vessel, but you would still just die to the bug, and now you have to spend

07:532.7k gold on a Yules that isn't actually saving you. So it wasn't that good, but now it just is

07:58that good, unfortunately. So yeah, but I still think the hero scales very well. I think if people

08:03itemize poorly against it, it's still very, very good. Then we have Shadow Demon. Execution is way

08:07too high, but I actually believe this hero is underrated currently in the pro scene. I believe

08:11that its shard is overpowered. It just got nerfed a lot. A lot. A lot. Like, a lot.

08:18Otherwise, the hero, in my opinion, is conceptually one of the best in the game. A dispel, which is

08:23hyper valuable both ways, defensively and offensively. Its W is still excellent. Its E is

08:28a stack tool. It has a solid laning stage. It has a save. It can be set up. Like, I really do believe

08:35in Shadow Demon. Very good base stats. So yeah, then we have Skyrath Mage. I don't think this hero

08:39at the highest level is good at all. I think it's terrible. But at the lowest level, you can just

08:43kind of blow people up with Atos combo, and that's what you should do, and it's not bad if you do that.

08:47Really, you can go Atos into E-Blade and blow people up. It's not bad. Then we have Coddle.

08:51I think this hero requires a bit of synergy, but if you really learn the intricacies of Coddle,

08:56and play the combos like the Storm, the Ember, the Tiny, and really learn how to play around

09:01Recall and the Shard and the Axe, it is absolutely a B-tier, if not A-tier hero. It just does so much.

09:07This hero does so much. It's ulti heals. It gives mana. It stacks very well. You know,

09:12it does a lot. You just got to really know the hero. It's not a hero you can pick up and be B-tier.

09:16If it's your first game of Coddle, it's probably more like a D or an E-tier hero.

09:20If it's your 20th game of Coddle, it's probably an A-tier hero.

09:23All right, then we have Pugna. I think this hero is just well-rounded. Decent laner, good spells,

09:28just solid. Not your typical Pospor, but solid. Then we have Spiritbreaker. Easy to play. Stuns,

09:34front lines. It's good in pubs. It's just baits. Then we have Ringmaster. Hard to play. A lot of

09:39buttons, but if you learn the buttons, this hero does a bit way too much. It's a very good laner.

09:43It's an above-average laner. It has a save. It has a 90-second cooldown kill spell. Most spells that

09:51just kind of guarantee a kill are much higher cooldown. Ringmaster is 90 seconds. Very low for

09:56this AoE devastating nuke. Its E is a scaling ability. Its ulti gives you two saves. Its talents

10:04are at level 10. The escape back cast range is excellent. So yeah, I'm a big fan of Ringmaster.

10:09I think the hero just conceptually is stupid. It gets like these souvenirs that are ridiculously

10:15strong. It's just a lot of buttons. If this hero had like half the buttons with the same impact,

10:21it would probably be maybe the best hero in the game or a high A tier. Okay, then we have Lion.

10:26It's fine. Fire Shard. Max your Q and your E and suck some people. Then we have Venge. You guys know

10:32how I feel about Venge. I think the Ags or just like Solar. Easy buttons. Easy to play. Scales well into the

10:38game with like Solar Ags as a sub. Then we have Phoenix. Phoenix is a shockingly high win rate.

10:43Historically, this hero does not have a good win rate. I think it's mostly due to the difficulty

10:47of the hero. Hitting your W and hitting your E and knowing when to click Egg without killing

10:50yourself. It's actually a very hard hero. However, Phoenix is one of those heroes where if you play

10:55it well, let me tell you. Kind of like I would put him on the same Phoenix as the same level as like

11:00something like a Grimstroke or Ringmaster where if you get the buttons down, you will cook.

11:06Get it? Oh my god. But yeah, basically Sunray Max with the Shard is some of the highest teamfight

11:12impact in the game. The hero's laning stage is not the best, but all in all, I think this hero

11:16as a Vessel buyer is fantastic. You can go that route. I'm a big fan of Vessel. I really do believe

11:21that the item is still underrated. The 70% heal reduction is just... I mean, it's crazy stuff.

11:30Then we have Nyx Assassin. Nyx, I thought was going to be completely dead after its nerfs, but no,

11:35it's actually doing very well in win rate. And I think the reason why I'm going to keep

11:40it a stack, guys, in pubs. Every time I have to play a pub, even a pub that is like rank

11:451000 average, so like 10k average, I get reminded about how much people fee. Like, I'm just keeping

11:51a stack. This sounds cocky and it is a little cocky, so forgive me. But the higher you go,

11:57the less random feeds there are, the more people are better at using their lead. Like if you get

12:02a 3k lead at minute 10, obviously it's still thrown. There's still a ton of comebacks. It's

12:07not like it doesn't happen. It's just less common. People are good at snowballing their lead.

12:12The lower you go, the more people just throw. And then all of a sudden the heroes that just

12:17scale well and are mid to late king terrorists just are way better. And Nyx is just an example

12:22of that where his early game is terrible. It's so bad. It's awful, horrendous. But if you get to the

12:30mid game, you're really good. You just have a bunch of stunts and still one shot people.

12:35All right. Then we have bounty hunter. Much better hero than Nyx on average. Just much

12:40better laner. Way better. Track. It's a good spell. Easy to play. You buy vessel. Just solid. Just

12:47buy vessel rough. Then we have wyvern. I mean, this hero historically is one of the highest winner

12:52a pub hero always. And if it gets a buff next patch, I do believe that it will be an A tier

12:57hero even in the pro scene. Wyvern just does a lot of stuff. It has two slows, percentage

13:03damage, a heal, a save, an AoE teamfight that is very good against bad positioning, a BKB counter.

13:10You know, it does a lot of stuff, but it's laning is not very good. And it's a little hard

13:15to play. It's actually very hard to play. I mean, let me re-say that. It's very hard to

13:20play. So yeah, Winter Wyvern, it's buttons do a lot. Again, on the note of Phoenix and Ringmaster

13:27and Grimm, if you get it down, this hero can be S tier impact from the support role. Just

13:33a little finicky. It's laning. It's not great. Then we have Night Stalker. I really believe

13:36in this hero in pubs, mainly just because it's very useful. He fights the vision, very

13:41easy buttons, straightforward laning stage. People don't really keep track of the day-night

13:45cycles. You're not going to get punished for that. Really, I would say the biggest flaw

13:49of Night Stalker at the highest level is that people keep track of the day-night cycles

13:52vigilantly, and they will run at your ass and run at your teammates because you are useless.

13:57But if people aren't intentional about that, it becomes way better as a hero. And yeah,

14:03it's still just super solid, easy buttons, good teamfight, good skill. Then we have

14:06Marana. Ever since they gave her the Starstruck facet, this hero is way better. I think Moonlight

14:11Shadow is just a very nice Dota ability. It's one of those spells where you click it in the

14:15teamfight, and if people don't have the right sentries and dust, it's going to be one of the best

14:20spells in the game. And yeah, I mean, Starfall does 600 damage. I just want you guys to understand

14:25that Lion Finger of Death is 600 damage. Just so you get it, Starfall at level 7 is 600 damage

14:34because it does full damage on the second meteor with Starstruck. Just so you understand, it's a

14:3912 second cooldown Finger of Death. That is what the spell is. Yes, you have to be close to them,

14:45so you have to leap in, but it is that, and it is good for that. All right, let's get into the

14:49eighth here. We have Jakiro. Wonderful hero. I think the hero as a positive force should try

14:54to scale. I'm a big fan of the Twin Terror into like drums, shard, shreds. If you haven't seen

15:00this build, it cooks. I mean, it does so much damage. Then you buy like a Hurricane Pike and

15:06you scale excellently. You have a lot of follow-up damage. You scale into the game. Your 10 talent

15:11is attack range, which is really, really nice with the shard and the E max. Then your 15 talent is

15:17Liquid Fire attack speed slow. And oh my gosh, in the mid game, when you are putting Liquid Frost,

15:23which is just a nice ability for amping up your other abilities and your auto attacks,

15:27and Liquid Fire, which is an 110 AOE attack speed slow, you just make certain carries that don't

15:35have a BKB. Even if they have a Manta, you're like, okay, but it can be dispelled. It's a four

15:39second cooldown. I have had Ember Spirits go on me. And you would be like, oh, that guy's magic damage.

15:44But in order to kill you, he really does have to auto attack you, like at least a little.

15:49But if you put this E on them at level 15, they can hit you. It's 110 attack speed slow. It's some

15:55crazy number. So yeah, I love this hero. Big fan of the Twin Terror shard build. And it's a lot of

16:00fun. You should really give it a shot if you haven't. Then we have Tinker. I can't not put this hero here.

16:04It's a little hard, but man, oh man, a well-played Tinker is devastating. The hero,

16:10it's laning stages is bonkers good. It's ability to farm is the best in the game out of all the

16:15subs. It's ability to scale is excellent. It counters nullifier. So if you're playing against

16:20Tinker, you can buy a nullifier at some point on someone. It just dispels heal bots and the E and

16:24the items he tends to buy. But yeah, healing heal bot Tinker is wonderful. Even if people buy a nullifier,

16:30the way you get around it is eventually scaling into Aether into Ags and just playing around the

16:34typical laser Tinker. And it's easy to get there. All right, then we have Windranger. I think

16:39Killshot Windranger is very, very strong right now. Just easy follow-up damage, very strong

16:43laning stage. Fun to play. The shard is great. The hero scales well because it just has a long

16:47duration stun and Killshot is percentage execute. And so yeah, I'm a big fan of wind. It's just very

16:53well-rounded. Probably the most well-rounded hero right now. Then we have Warlock. I do have to put

16:58this hero here. I'm just keeping it real, guys. I can't in good faith not put Warlock in the top

17:05pause fours. I know people might find this a bit controversial because it's like not a pause four

17:10hero, but I just don't see Dota that way. I haven't for a long time. I just think in pubs,

17:15if like, let's say your mid is like some sort of stuff, right? I think generally the best thing to

17:20have around that guy in pubs is just AOE damage and teamfight or just damage and teamfight.

17:26And Warlock is like that, right? Just run around and click Fatal Bonds and W and like Golem and

17:30your impact is going to just be higher than most of the standard pause four heroes. And most of the

17:35standard pause four heroes, I just feel like are nerf. I'm just keeping it as that, guys. Like,

17:38like typical follow-up damage like Skyrath, it's just not what it used to be. Skyrath, Rubik, Muerta,

17:44Grimstroke. Like these heroes are just not what they were, you know? They're just not. I would say

17:49the current pause four standard pool is just not that good. The main one that's like solid right now is

17:54like Wind, you know? And she's like very good, but I just don't, I don't even know if I can

18:00put her above like the Jakiro that I put a bit lower than her, you know, or the Warlock.

18:04I just don't feel like I can. And so even if you're a four player or you're forced to play

18:09pause four, I would say the way to go is just play a Warlock in the off lane and you're gonna do a

18:15lot. All right, then we have Shadow Shaman. Getting back to the traditional pause fours,

18:18we have Shadow Shaman. The comment section hated me for a second, but we're back to the standard shit.

18:22Go stun people, okay? This hero has very, very good win rate. That is the main reason it's here.

18:27I will say I have seen it a lot more at the top level. A lot more people are experimenting with

18:32it. I believe Chicken Fingers is a really cool ability that the hero has. It actually makes

18:36trading really scary. It just hexes you for one second when it hits you every so often,

18:41which is really, it's actually really annoying to trade into. It allows him to kind of close the

18:44gap, which the hero struggles to do due to his bad movement speed and attack range. So that really,

18:48really helps him. And then the hero spells, it's just kind of one of those things where

18:52it's very punishing for mistakes, right? It's just kind of one of those heroes where I don't think

18:56it's nearly as good at the top level, because if people don't make as many positioning issues,

19:01it just struggles to get its spells off due to the bad cast rate it is. However, when there's

19:05bad positioning or, you know, like people overextend and stuff like that, Shaman becomes

19:10like the best hero in the game because it just has long durations done. It's a, you know,

19:13five second shackle. And then snakes are just a nice ability to have. They're going to allow you

19:16to take towers, take roach, take torms, right? All these objectives. It's very convenient.

19:20I would say this hero scaling is mainly just going to come from buying like utility items,

19:24glimmer, aether, BKB blink, you know, that, that type of jazz. Um, all right, then we have

19:29clockwork. Yeah. This hero, even after being kind of gutted, mainly due to the fact that the Q does

19:34not do double damage to creeps is still the top win rate pause for roaming melee hero. And I would

19:40say I'm not that shocked. Um, this hero does a lot. I will say, I think there's two ways to get

19:44max value of the hero. Number one, I think you should max your Q in the early game, um, and just kill

19:49people. It's very strong. And then number two is just buying a vessel. Um, really,

19:53I think vessel clockwork is just nasty. Like they can solo kill most subs and it puts a lot of

19:58pressure on most cores. This hero kind of just gets in there, does a lot of damage with its vessel.

20:04If it cannot be dispelled, it's going to get some hero at least a half HP. And yeah, I mean,

20:09it's really nice for that. It's going to be your classic stun. Cogs are still an incredible ability

20:13with expanded armature and, uh, it's a vision hero on top of that. I love this hero's ags. I think the

20:18other thing you can do is just Russian ags. I think it's very high impact to just have max flare ags.

20:23It's a lot of vision. It's a blink cancel. It's a lot of slow. It's a lot of damage.

20:27I've been a big fan of clock axe for a while now. I think it's hyper, hyper underrated. Um,

20:32even though some people buy it, I think it's hyper underrated. All right, getting to the

20:34edge tier possible heroes. The first one on the list is Venno jungle, baby. Let's go. You know,

20:39it was going to be here. Come on. It's the best hero in the game. I mean, sure. I'm not putting it

20:43as the best possible, but it's the best hero in the game. Venno jungle is far above and beyond

20:47the best strategy in Dota. It is right now. It probably always will be. Uh, even if they make

20:53it where he can't jungle, I'll probably still bring them into the jungle just for old times today.

20:57Right. Yeah. Venno jungle vessel buyer. That's all I got to say. He fight damage. All right.

21:02Getting to the best S tier POS 4 in the game is unfortunately AA. Yeah. I know a bit of a

21:08bummer. You probably just clicked off the video. You're like, I'm just going to go, uh, on TikTok

21:12now. Actually, what are you going to watch after this video? Is it another one of my videos? Is

21:16it blast slam? Is it TikTok? Comment down below. Okay. But yeah, it's AA. I mean, I'm, I'm keeping it

21:21in a stack. I'm, I'm actually not beaming. The Venno obviously is a bit of a joke. It's not a joke,

21:26but AA is not a joke at all. It's not a joke at all. I mean, the zero is just the best POS 4. I

21:31think on the similar note of Warlock, I mean, you've seen a lot of pro teams pick the zero

21:35POS 4. So it is literally just a thing, but it's not even just my opinion, even though

21:39my opinion is the best. It's just, it's just the best hero in Dota right now for support.

21:43I believe that for POS. It just is easy to play. It's the best follow-up damage in the

21:48game. It is the best follow-up damage in the game. Like almost objectively, like cooldown

21:54wise, damage wise, bone chill wise, you know, it just does too much. Its abilities are

21:59insane, right? Ice Vortex. One of the best just abilities in Dota. Damage Amp. It works

22:05with bone chill. It slows. It cancels blinks. It gives vision. It stacks. Okay. Its Q is

22:10a really long duration stun. And it's frankly not that easy to get off. Like as long as you're

22:15slowing them with something else, it's probably going to go off. Its ulti is one of the best

22:18spells in the game. At level 18, it's a 40 second cooldown. Menace ability. Most carries

22:23literally can't buy the items that they want because of this hero. It makes certain heroes

22:27not playable. For instance, like Morphling is just a 10 times worse hero. Huskar, almost

22:32unplayable. You know, um, satanic buyers just basically can't buy the item. They have to

22:37be giga careful. Heroes like Tinker just hate AA, right? There's just so many examples.

22:43Winter Wyvern. Oh, you want to save the guy? You're probably killing him against AA. There's

22:47just so many examples where AA just negates the game. It negates certain items and its numbers

22:52are so good right now that like usually the downside of this hero is that the numbers might

22:57not be the best. So like you can kind of abuse it hard enough where the, the, how strong

23:02anti-heal is like anti-heal is just insane in Dota, right? Its numbers are usually weak

23:05enough where it just isn't plausible because you're just going to get run over. But that's

23:10just not the case right now. The hero isn't that bad of a laner. It's not great, but it's

23:13not that bad of a laner. And yeah, bone chill is just, I mean, you're chilling my bone.

23:18Just you're chilling the bone and chilling the bone is good. So thank you so much for watching.

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