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  • 5/19/2025
At Wednesday's Senate Health Committee hearing, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) questioned HHS Sec. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. if he believes healthcare is a human right.
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00:00Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let me stop going back to prescription drugs.
00:04Mr. Secretary, did I hear you correctly to state that your goal is to have Americans pay the lowest prices in the world,
00:13or equivalent to what is paid in other major countries? That is my goal.
00:17That you are prepared to work with us on legislation to achieve that goal?
00:22Absolutely.
00:23All right. And I believe there's bipartisan support for it.
00:26I believe that if the leadership here prioritizes that, we can do that in a very short period of time.
00:32Look forward to that.
00:34Let me ask you this. As Secretary of HHS, we have in America today some 85 million Americans who are uninsured or underinsured.
00:47We spend more per capita, as you've indicated, than any other country.
00:50Is health care a human right?
00:53Are we making America healthy when so many people cannot afford to go to a doctor,
00:59when 68,000 people a year die because they don't get to a doctor when they should?
01:04Is health care a human right?
01:05Will you work with us to guarantee health care to every man, woman, and child in America?
01:10Well, I think you're asking two different questions.
01:12You're asking a philosophical question about whether it is a human right, like a constitutional right.
01:19As an attorney, I would say that it's not a right of a kind that we otherwise enshrine in the Constitution.
01:30Because health care costs your neighbor money.
01:34If I smoke cigarettes for 20 years, I make that choice, which is my choice.
01:40I don't mean to, you know, I don't have a lot of time.
01:41So I just, I am here.
01:43If you ask a question, if you're asking me a philosophical question, I got to, you know, give you a thoughtful answer.
01:49Within 30 seconds.
01:51Yeah.
01:52It's a problem.
01:53It's not like freedom of speech, which costs, you know, everybody.
01:56But every other country, Mr. Secretary, every other country guarantees health care to all people as a right.
02:02Should we, as Americans?
02:05The objective is to get Americans a level of health care that they want, the choice which Americans want.
02:15They don't want the choice to be uninsured.
02:17They don't want the choice to die because they don't get to a doctor on top.
02:21Americans prefer private insurance to other insurance sources.
02:27Do you believe?
02:28Okay.
02:28And what I would say is, you know, I want to find a solution to this.
02:32I want every American to have insurance.
02:34President Trump wants every American to be insured and have access to health care.
02:39The question is, how do we get there?
02:41Obamacare is not working.
02:43It is not working.
02:45And this is the.
02:46Are we can, okay, sorry to interrupt you.
02:49All right.
02:49All right.

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