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00:00:00Tally I'm asking you what you do less than her money. She sent me just a second just a sec
00:00:07Now it's gonna get difficult. This is Judy justice
00:00:12Jill Wyatt is suing her ex-boyfriend
00:00:15John Moore for the money he spent while she was in jail
00:00:20Court come to order all rise
00:00:23Have a seat, please
00:00:26Okay, it's 3046 y vs. Moore, thank you welcome
00:00:30Miss Wyatt, how long were you and mr. Moore in a relationship?
00:00:36We've known each other for about 18 years. Did you ever live together on a couple of occasions?
00:00:41When was the last time you lived together January, I believe
00:00:462022 were you living in a house or an apartment? It was a house. Was it a lease?
00:00:51Yes was the lease in your name. Mr. Moore's or both
00:00:55No, apparently it was an arrangement that he had with the person that he gave the money to there was no paper
00:01:03We're getting far off the field, but it's getting more interesting now. Mr. Moore miss Wyatt
00:01:08Although I believe she probably has a good memory of this
00:01:11I have just a sense that she's reluctant to give me information about this for whatever reason in
00:01:18January of
00:01:202022 sir, you and the plaintiff were living in a house together. No, when were you living in a house together?
00:01:27We've never had a little bit. We've never lived together
00:01:31When you say live together, I come over. I got a girlfriend
00:01:33I've been having for the whole time. So I've never lived with her. Do you remember the house? She's talking about?
00:01:38Yes, I do. All right, the one she I don't want you just a second. I don't want you to play around with me
00:01:43Okay, I'm not. Okay. Do you know the house she was talking about when the two of you were together?
00:01:49Some of the time in a house in January of
00:01:532022 that's a yes or a no still a no
00:01:56Okay, so the house that she's talking about you lived in alone. I lived in with my girlfriend actually
00:02:04Oh just a second
00:02:05Did miss Wyatt ever come to stay in that house with you before you had your then current girlfriend when I first got the apartment?
00:02:13Miss Wyatt was gonna come she didn't get along with the lady upstairs
00:02:17She said she wouldn't come destroyed the house and left. Okay. Well if she destroyed the house and she was in the house
00:02:23She so just a second
00:02:25Yes, ma'am
00:02:25If she destroyed the house and she was in the house and if she didn't get along with the lady upstairs
00:02:29She wouldn't know that unless she actually lived there because she's not telepathic. Okay, so she was in fact there
00:02:38I'm listening to what you're saying. I'm trying to understand what you're saying, man
00:02:41What I'm saying is not difficult she did in fact stay there with you for a while after you got this house, okay
00:02:48Not okay. No, I'm seeing where you're trying to go with that. I'm trying to see what you're statue. Yes, she did stay there
00:02:53I'm agreeing with you. That wasn't
00:02:57Taken a long time, but we're there. Okay, and then at some point miss Wyatt you left there and you went into your own
00:03:05Apartment. Yes. Okay. And where is your apartment? I moved into a
00:03:10Trailer that you were renting. Yes
00:03:12I just want to know what I'm getting ahead of myself
00:03:14But that's the trailer that he was supposed to pay rent on and utilities on when you went to jail. Yes, ma'am
00:03:21So from 2020 until the time you went to jail for what 18 months?
00:03:2778 weeks or I'm sorry 78 days
00:03:31What did you go to jail for? Um in?
00:03:342018 I
00:03:37Received a
00:03:39I'm I'm sorry just
00:03:422018 you had a conviction. Yes. I ended up serving the time in
00:03:482022 for
00:03:50For theft, correct. I stole Thanksgiving dinner, ma'am
00:03:54Are you sure it sounds like 78 days is a lot. We want probation for yes
00:04:00Did you take a plea in that case? Yes. Okay, and as part of the plea you placed on probation, correct
00:04:06What was the crime that you pled guilty to I want to understand this what was it petty theft was it grand larceny
00:04:14What was it? No, it was retail fraud slash shoplifting for $170. Okay, that's what I knew were placed on probation
00:04:22Yes
00:04:23Why was your probation?
00:04:24Violated because that clearly was why you went to jail for 78 days not because of an old crime
00:04:30But because I violated probation. I wasn't keeping in contact with my probation officer like I was supposed to okay
00:04:36So this case is about the fact that you asked mr
00:04:40Moore who you knew for a long time to take care of your expenses your bills while you were incarcerated and
00:04:46You gave him your phone
00:04:47yeah, your phone had the wherewithal and you he understood that because he acknowledges he used it to take money out of
00:04:56Your bank account and pay bills, etc with it and you acknowledged that she gave you her phone for that purpose
00:05:02She gave me her phone not to pay bills
00:05:04But to give her commissary and to keep up with her stuff
00:05:08pay her bills some to put in our commissary and the last thing you said was pay her bills and
00:05:15Put money in her commissary and keep up with some stuff. That's the keeping up with some stuff is what we're talking about here
00:05:21Yes, sir
00:05:22Keeping up with what stuff phone bill. I mean just a second. Go ahead now. It's gonna get difficult
00:05:28Okay, I'm gonna see understand. I know you are sir
00:05:32Keeping up with other stuff phone bill. She bought a job. I'm sorry. I'll wait to what else phone bill
00:05:38She ended up buying a computer at that time. No, I'm asking you
00:05:41No, I'm telling you that was that came off the monies that was there
00:05:45She was incarcerated. So as a lot of things just to come off the phone as a bill like no
00:05:50No, I'm asking you what you what did I what you were supposed to take care of it was never edged out
00:05:57and what I'm saying is she wanted me to stay at her house while she was gone and
00:06:01That was a what means for her to keep in touch with me or keep in
00:06:05That's something that I didn't get out of this
00:06:07So she wanted you to stay in her trailer because she was living in a trailer at the time while she was incarcerated
00:06:14Where had you been living at my house? That's where I currently live now with my girlfriend with your girlfriend
00:06:20She wanted you to stay in her trailer. Yeah with your girlfriend
00:06:25She wanted me to be there so she can keep up with me
00:06:27That was the means of me having her phone and being in her car and being another thing would be a way for her to
00:06:32Keep up with me while she was incarcerated. And did you like that idea? Mr. Moore? No second
00:06:37No, I mean, did your girlfriend like that idea? Not at all. Why didn't you say to her?
00:06:41I don't want your phone and I don't want any responsibility
00:06:45Listen to me. I'm living with my girlfriend
00:06:47We're not an item anymore
00:06:49And I don't want that tie because
00:06:52My girlfriend knew that I was staying sometimes in your trailer and not being home
00:06:58That wouldn't be a good thing. So I'm not gonna take your phone find somebody who you Andrew Porter
00:07:04I'm her son. You're her son. Is there anything wrong with you? No, do you talk to your mother? Yeah. Yes. Do you work?
00:07:11Yes. Yeah, so your mother could have given you her phone and said pay the bills. Yeah, right
00:07:16Yeah, you can stand next to your mother who's getting more fascinating by the moment
00:07:23Jill Wyatt claims her ex-boyfriend John Moore misused money. She gave him while she was in jail
00:07:31John is counter suing for a false arrest
00:07:34So do you understand this why I know that you thought it was gonna be easier when you came here
00:07:38It's no I really I did not
00:07:41I'm very I'm very glad because I have a feeling I could scratch the surface and I'd find more dirt
00:07:47Yeah, the more I scratched you the more I scratched
00:07:50Well, I have no intention of spending my life on this nonsense because now I see that you have a perfectly normal
00:07:57Child an adult child to whom you could have assigned the task of paying your bills
00:08:02And I assume that you trusted him more than you trusted this guy who seems to have a girlfriend
00:08:10But then you know could be convenient
00:08:12You can go here was never painted that way when it's in the midst of things
00:08:16But he I also work out of what I also I work out of state
00:08:21I'm like a field engineer. So I'm only in Michigan maybe a couple weeks at a time. That's okay
00:08:26I mean your bills doesn't mean that you have to be in Michigan
00:08:30You can pay your bills and you could have done all those things except anyway, this is your case you
00:08:36Alleged that mr. Moore took money out of your account a couple of thousand dollars
00:08:43$781 of that he gave to me while I was in jail
00:08:47But the remainder he can't account for anything that he did it. So somebody did put in your commissary. Yes
00:08:54Yes
00:08:54He said he also sent you there was six hundred dollars in the account when he gave the phone back to you
00:09:00Was there six hundred dollars in the account when you were released from jail the date of that?
00:09:06What's the date of it, sir? She asked the question, but the answer this did I?
00:09:10I don't have that. I didn't know I was gonna come to court
00:09:13So I didn't but if I look at my phone, I'm quite sure cuz all our transactions were via cash app
00:09:18What do you mean? You didn't know you coming to court?
00:09:19What did you think you were coming today when we were in this situation?
00:09:22Never did I think we would be sued I wasn't keeping tally
00:09:25We were now, you know, you're coming to court
00:09:27So it would seem to me if there's an allegation
00:09:30In your answer that I returned the phone to there was still six hundred dollars in the account
00:09:34At least I would have
00:09:37Document give me a second. I can give you a second. I believe that amount was for the August rent on it
00:09:44Just a second
00:09:45All I'm asking you is did he put six hundred when he gave you the phone was there still six hundred dollars in the account?
00:09:50That was a month after that was for August. What do you mean was for August?
00:09:55What does that mean for the August rent this whole thing with not living with me and not being with me or whatever is is?
00:10:01Untrue when I got out of jail, we were supposed to be working together living together
00:10:07This was no anything like he's describing with having somebody else or anything like that. I would like to see mr
00:10:15Moore when you gave her back the phone that there was six hundred dollars on the phone. It's her phone
00:10:21I'm not sure. I'm sorry. I don't use it. Okay. Oh, okay now, but I get you extra
00:10:28Dollars you say that the money that you used and you acknowledge that you used some of the money
00:10:35Was because you drove her car for a half a block. Nope. It was more than a half
00:10:40Well, just a second. Let me see if this is just a second. I drove her car one block to my job
00:10:47So it wasn't a half a block just a second. I drove her car one block. I
00:10:52Apologize, it wasn't half a block put your hand down to my job when she was in jail and the alternator went out and it
00:10:59Was impounded explain that to me you drove her car. You had your own for some reason you drove first
00:11:05Why don't you give me a one sentence as to why you drove hers one sentence one sentence on my truck?
00:11:11I had my
00:11:12Equipment my line equipment and I was just going one block away
00:11:16So I didn't want to have to turn it around and the car was impounded at my job one block away from my house
00:11:21Why was it impounded?
00:11:23Because it stopped on it alternator stop just a second cars aren't impounded because an alternator stop alternator stopped in the middle of the street
00:11:30I couldn't move it. They had to tour because it was in the driveway. They told the car because it was the alternator stop
00:11:34What you said? Well, that's your fault. Sir. It's my father. Yes, and they don't went out. Yes, sir
00:11:39It's your fault that the car was impounded. I'm listening. No, I'm really I'm
00:11:45Yeah, I want you to listen yes, it's your fault and I don't know what other nonsense there is here
00:11:50but if Sarah was driving her car and it stopped running because the
00:11:57Alternator went out. I'm gonna take a guess and I'm gonna say Sarah
00:12:00What would you do if your car stopped running in a driveway blocking the driveway?
00:12:06What would you do call triple-a call triple-a call a tow truck and you would call a tow truck and ask the tow truck
00:12:12To take it to a auto repair shop
00:12:16To an auto repair shop your first clue would not be just to leave the truck there and say send it to impound
00:12:23No, it happened
00:12:25Just a second. Mr. Moore. Please try not to test yourself on the dumb scale
00:12:31nobody who's
00:12:33Responsible because a car breaks down leaves it in the middle of the road to be impounded. That doesn't make sense
00:12:40It's illogical
00:12:41Second thing I'm concerned about is when your car is
00:12:45Impounded in order to get it out of impound, which you say that you did you have to show proof of?
00:12:52Title. Yes. Yes
00:12:54Now, how did you get proof of title because I had the title. I had the title. Just a second. Yes
00:13:02I hear the wheels. I hear you have the title because I had access to her house
00:13:09Well, the title isn't her name right they wouldn't give you the car you're not her I I mean I would look at here
00:13:16I say, you know not even close
00:13:18Unless she gave you authorization in writing to get the car out for her
00:13:23No impound service is gonna let you take her car because anybody could pick up a title and say I want that car out
00:13:30Do you understand? Yes, ma'am. Okay, so you want to try that again with me? Here's my question
00:13:36Just a second, okay, I want you to tell me where it was impounded it was impounded at my job
00:13:44It was impounded and it was in a place. There was a high traffic. I'll walk back to the house
00:13:48Oh, yeah, I want to tell you something. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up to slap you in the face
00:13:53Yeah, you wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face and introduced itself to you
00:13:58Okay. Now how much did it cost to get the car out of impound? It cost me a thousand dollars
00:14:04Didn't cost you anything cuz she took it out of her phone didn't cost you it cost a thousand dollars to get it insured
00:14:13Retitled so I could have the ability to get the car out. Well, how did you get her name on the title?
00:14:19What do you mean? What do you mean? What do I mean?
00:14:21She has to sign it over to you in order to it was already signed over to me
00:14:24It was already signed over. It was already signed. I sell cars
00:14:29You don't sell cars you just told me that you car broke down on the way to your place of business
00:14:36On your job and your job is not an auto mechanic or salesman for a car service
00:14:41Which is why you told I sell cars miss Judy
00:14:44That's why the title was turned over to me signed over and I managed to get the car titled in my name
00:14:50You want to try this on for me as Judy? I'm sorry
00:14:53I didn't mean to disturb you but I was in a situation where it was impounded
00:14:57They were charging $30 every single day and you she would have lost her car. So so just say you
00:15:04I don't for anything. Well, you have to afford something sir
00:15:08Because if it was in in pound and what you're saying is they were charging $30 a day
00:15:13She was gonna lose her car
00:15:15your next statement was because she keep digging that hole a little deeper and a little deeper you couldn't get it out because the
00:15:22Car was in her name
00:15:24Not yours, but you had the title because he had access to the trailer, which is what she's suggesting and you went and
00:15:32Forged her signature got a new title got insurance and the car was clearly towed, but you've got it out of him pound
00:15:39That's what you said with a new title in your name and insurance
00:15:44Also, I assume in your name. Yes, ma'am. What did you do with the car gave it back to her?
00:15:50When she got out just a second you gave it back to her. Did you sign over the yes
00:15:57Jill Wyatt has accused her ex-boyfriend John Moore of stealing her money while she was in jail
00:16:05John is counter suing claiming Jill had him falsely arrested
00:16:09Now did you sign over the title to her? I signed over everything to her because she sold the car since then
00:16:15Oh, did you sell the car?
00:16:18Sense all this. Yes. Yes, ma'am, but he's I'm what he's what I had to go through police department in the sheriff's department
00:16:25And threatened him in order to get my title back. He will not give me back my title
00:16:31Not at all any proof of that
00:16:32Any proof of that you had to go through the police department sheriff's department or anything else in order to get your title back?
00:16:39Do you have any proof of that at all? I don't have any proof of that ma'am
00:16:42Okay, so it was $1,000 for impound that he took out of your account, that's $1,000. No
00:16:50Okay, did you take out $1,000 from her account to get it out of them pound?
00:16:54Well, you just said let's show me show me that you paid $1,000 to get it out of them
00:17:00I can't show it to you because all the paperwork was in the car. Did you pay impound by credit card?
00:17:05I'm a by cash cash then you would have taken cash out had a job judge Judy
00:17:11I know you're so full of baloney, sir
00:17:16$1,000, okay
00:17:18Next you say in your answer. Mr. Moore that you paid for it
00:17:22You paid for it out of our money miss you'd say in your answer you pay for it out of our money
00:17:27That's kind of going back and forth. We've split money back and forth
00:17:31If I give you a copy of our cash app, it's the exact same money back and forth over the last couple years
00:17:36I send her money. She sent me just a so why would she do that?
00:17:39So if you have a girlfriend, I'm gonna
00:17:43listen
00:17:44Why would you do that back and forth if what you said to me?
00:17:49Earlier was I don't know what she's talking about. I live with my girlfriend in the same place as I'm living now now
00:17:56Let's move on to so far. I have $1,000 and I really miss Wyatt don't understand anything else
00:18:02I'm not spending any more time with your case. That's the person who should have been taking care of your business
00:18:07Not this nonsense. Yes, not this nonsense because I'm not exactly sure whether I'm getting the whole story from this side either
00:18:15All right. Now you have a counterclaim. Your counterclaim is for $2,000 for having you falsely arrested. Yes, ma'am
00:18:21Let us move on with falsely arrested after she gets out of jail
00:18:25According to what I read the two of you are kaput. No. Well, okay. Here we go
00:18:30We're gonna go back to your answer and your counterclaim sir. I'm gonna read you what I said on February 13th
00:18:37I went out to a few bars to have a good time
00:18:39Jill was at a different bar, but came and met me where I was at upon
00:18:46Arrival, you're not paying attention. I am listen to on arrival Jill started to pressure me to leave with her
00:18:52I reminded her that we were no longer an item and I didn't want to leave
00:18:56She was making a scene. So we went outside to finish our conversation. That's your counterclaim now pick it up from there
00:19:03That's what you wrote. Try to remember going anywhere. Okay, and then she told me I'll show you but you told me this things
00:19:10Just Judy if it's not accurate
00:19:12Would you want me to let you go ahead cuz I didn't write that I signed it to him
00:19:15They told me I'd be able to explain this to you as we're doing this here. I stopped and said hell no that didn't happen
00:19:19No, we didn't fight. It wasn't one block. They said you'll get a chance to explain that to the judge
00:19:23Yeah, you shouldn't you shouldn't listen to anybody else. So when you sign a document that says I
00:19:30We last more we do we sworn to poses and says that this is accurate we didn't live together
00:19:36We still would you mind telling me what happened in the bar on?
00:19:39February told me she was gonna get me locked up for domestic violence because I had assaulted her I had not assaulted her
00:19:45I told her whatever and I walked back into the bar sat down the police pulled up and they said sir
00:19:51Would you come step outside? Excuse me? They said would you come step outside? I stepped outside
00:19:55They said put your hands behind your back. We're locking you up for domestic
00:19:58May I please have a copy of your complaint? I can give you all this what I have
00:20:02So don't give me all that that you have you saying the complaint there was I was arrested on the spot
00:20:07There was a disposition in that case. Yes, they dismissed it. Okay
00:20:12This is all complaint to the disposition. Oh
00:20:15Oh
00:20:23Here we go, the case was dismissed in the interest of justice because you agreed to pay her
00:20:30Restitution for just a second. That's what you agreed to pay her
00:20:35restitution in the amount of
00:20:37$246 which I assume represents the broken eyeglasses that she says that you broke this says
00:20:44receipt of
00:20:46restitution monies same case I
00:20:48John Moore state that I have delivered a check in the amount of 246 to the Calhoun County Prosecutor's Office
00:20:54It is my understanding that this check represents the amount of restitution that is owed to the victim
00:21:01according to the agreement entered into by the defendant so you paid
00:21:05restitution
00:21:09I'm trying to you if you say something
00:21:11Second go ahead. Did you sign this one? I could talk. Did you sign this? Yes, ma'am, then you're cooked
00:21:16So it's over. I got a question for you
00:21:19Yeah, I don't answer your questions if I get off of work
00:21:21I've been in this court case five times in a row
00:21:24It cost me two hundred and some dollars to come to court and they said we'll dismiss all charges
00:21:29There'll be no no charges at all. If you pay agreed to pay 250. I've paid $800 coming to court
00:21:35So why wouldn't I just say hey here?
00:21:37I'll pay you the money and then try to sue you for false arrest because I'd never heard where's the glasses at right now
00:21:42Where's the picture? Yes, the police arrested me on the spot. Mr. Moore like a perennial victim. I really feel sorry for you
00:21:48You count the claims dismissed. So
00:21:51Anything I wouldn't dismiss judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of $1,000 you count the claims dismissed
00:21:57I am finished with this case
00:22:00Thank you. Have a great. This court is adjourned
00:22:03I
00:22:05Went just like I thought it would be I'm pleased with the results. She's mad
00:22:09I don't want to deal with it anymore. My guards are up. Hey, she wanted to get her day in court
00:22:13I can leave with it not asking anybody for help. She the one was locked up, but I've never been locked up for still
00:22:18She was locked up for stealing. How do the that's the thief the cop caught in the kettle black just to be careful
00:22:24Who you trust?
00:22:26There was a great line from the defendant out there
00:22:28I don't think anyone caught it
00:22:30But when you asked how is it possible that you could live with the plaintiff and have your girlfriend and all at the same time?
00:22:37How's that possible? And then he moved on to something else and continued rambling, but he said miss Judy. I'm monogamously challenged
00:22:43I'm not a mislead
00:22:45And I heard I started laughing and I saw no one else
00:22:48No one else made any sort of reaction and I said I must have been the only one that heard that or I misheard
00:22:53That but I'm pretty sure that was a great line and it's true
00:22:57Yeah, it seemed very true. And that's him. Yeah, I have a feeling there's a lot more there
00:23:02Yeah, but it was a lot more dirt just a lot more there, but but enough. That's funny line
00:23:08monogamously challenged
00:23:11Cecilia Morrow is suing her ex-boyfriend
00:23:15Sayid Rodriguez for stolen property and assaults court come to order all rise
00:23:22Have a seat, please
00:23:24Hello judge case 3 1 0 0 Morrow vs. Rodriguez. Thank you. You're welcome. Miss Morrow you and mr. Rodriguez
00:23:31Matt you began a friendship
00:23:33Could you give the dog to your witness, please?
00:23:38You met the defendant at a place where you were both working became friends
00:23:43Shortly thereafter you began dating and in May of last year you moved in together
00:23:49Yes, did you move in to your apartment to his apartment or was it an apartment that you got together as a couple?
00:23:54Yes, we got it together who was on the lease
00:23:57It was both of us in October of the same year four or five months later. You broke up
00:24:02Yes
00:24:03And your lawsuit is about what happened at the breakup and as a result of the breakup according to your complaint in
00:24:10October the day that you in fact broke up you had a fight with mr. Rodriguez
00:24:15He put his hands on you he assaulted you you left the house and
00:24:20When you left the house you left and went and stayed with your parents. Yes, you claim that
00:24:27Mr. Rodriguez has some property that belongs to you
00:24:30Yes in the house and that the assault that took place was serious enough that you should be compensated for it
00:24:38Despite the fact that there was no police
00:24:40Involvement in this correct. Yes, ma'am, and there were no hospital records or don't doctors records
00:24:46Yes, because you didn't go to the hospital or seek any medical care, correct?
00:24:50Yes
00:24:51Okay
00:24:51The defendant says that there was an argument you did in fact break up after you broke up you came to his house
00:24:59And there was an argument and you did in fact assault him
00:25:03He denies that he assaulted you at all at the beginning of October when you broke up and he says
00:25:10When you left you agreed that he could keep the two Corgis that you had together in the apartment
00:25:16This is one of them and that was in October and sometime in December
00:25:20This is his complaint you called and said could you take the dogs for two days?
00:25:24He said okay because there was a threat and you haven't returned the dogs. He would like the Corgis back
00:25:30Correct. Now, this is one of the Corgis. Where's the other he was too big to fit on the plane. He's he's at home
00:25:36Okay, so when were the Corgis purchased her I got of March of last year and the other one chip I got in
00:25:43June of last year, so you had one when you and the defendant moved in together
00:25:48Yes, is that correct? Correct? Is this the one you had when you moved in together? Yes, so all the dogs were purchased
00:25:56After you lived together. Yes, who were the dogs purchased from her? I got from Petland in Frisco and
00:26:04The boy he found on Craigslist he found the dog because you wanted a second dog. Yes
00:26:09Who paid for the dog at Petland? I did is that correct? That's correct. Is the dog registered? Yeah, and that's this dog. Yes
00:26:16Sir, this is part of your complaint. You want this dog back? Yes, ma'am
00:26:21You need to purchase the dog, correct, correct. The dog is not registered in your name, correct, correct
00:26:27Why would you think I would give you this dog because the entirety of our relationship since we bought fatty
00:26:33I was the one taking care of her in the morning
00:26:35So I would wake up 6 in the morning or whatever time it was take her out whether it was freezing cold hot rain
00:26:42And who cares of course, but also I have here pictures where she once after the breakup
00:26:49She was stating that she can't keep the dog
00:26:51The dog is not worth the money if you have statements that suggest that she gave you the dog
00:26:56I'll read them but on its face the fact that you walk the dog in the morning or in the afternoon or at night
00:27:03Has no relevance to this whatsoever. Well, I have the messages where she's saying that the dog is, you know, not worth anything
00:27:10I need to get rid of her. She's bad. She's telling me to come pick. May I see those please? Yes, your honor
00:27:25What are you selling who's selling something she is stating that she wants to sell the dog that chip that is the other dog
00:27:32Well once she bought and said her name, so that's definitely hers
00:27:36And also fatty, right? Yes, and chip, sir
00:27:40So it was about both of them from the day we broke up, you know
00:27:44I kept the dogs because she couldn't keep them. She couldn't take care of them
00:27:48She left them in the cage all day, and I also have evidence where like, you know
00:27:52Her family members are throwing cheese at her face, you know mistreating the dogs. Show me dog looks perfectly happy to me
00:28:02Oh
00:28:07You can press play
00:28:22What was that big piece of cheese that is thrown in the dog's eye that was my dad from tik-tok
00:28:27Who did that to my dad he has a tik-tok account
00:28:31He it's a trend on tik-tok to throw it on babies faces and and dogs. That's terrible. It's a trend
00:28:37It's stupid. Yeah, it's a stupid trend. I didn't partake in it
00:28:41But why would I leave this dog in a house with a stupid person?
00:28:46Who takes out that stupidity on an animal to put a thing up on tik-tok. That's absolutely outrageous
00:28:53We take care of them. They're they're fine. No, you don't
00:28:56What's wrong with you, why would you even think that that's reasonable?
00:29:03Cecilia Morrow has accused her ex-boyfriend
00:29:06Said Rodriguez of assaulting her and stealing property
00:29:10Said is countersuing for the return of two Corgis and claims. He was the one assaulted
00:29:16Why did you leave the dogs at his house for two months? It wasn't two months straight
00:29:21It was probably like a week or two. No, it wasn't a week or two. What do you mean straight?
00:29:26You had a fight in October. Yeah, we were
00:29:30Co-parenting I guess with the dogs because I was working and so was he so we couldn't are you telling me after you broke up?
00:29:35Yes, how could you be?
00:29:37Co-parenting with somebody you mean you would go to his house and get the dogs and he would bring them to you
00:29:41He would he would come to my house to pick them up and and drop them off and it would same way with
00:29:46And he would see you yes, he would see you. Yes. Did you have conversations with him? Nothing important?
00:29:52Well, I want you to tell me after you broke up. How did you arrange that? You would co-parent for the dogs?
00:29:58There wasn't really an agreement. It was just I'm busy. Can you pick him up? Yes, and then same not true
00:30:04No, this argument that you had in October when you broke up you want to tell me about it?
00:30:10And then I'm gonna get back to the dogs. So he assaulted me. He punched a hole in a TV
00:30:15He bought the TV but still he he punched it because I told him if he was gonna put his hands on me then we're
00:30:20Actually done, but he punched the TV instead and I actually I have pictures of what he did that night
00:30:25I don't care if he punched a hole in the TV. It's just TV
00:30:28Yeah, he punched holes in the in the apartment that we're staying at as well. You're still in the apartment. Yes, your honor
00:30:34He's still there. Did you take her name off the lease? Yes, your honor
00:30:37I don't care what he did to the apartment madam. He's still in the apartment. He's gonna have to pay for any damage
00:30:42Let's move you didn't call the police as a result of whatever incident happened in the house
00:30:47You said he got mad at you. He accused you of cheating. That's what you said
00:30:51And he complains he came in he jumped up on top of the bed and then he choked you and then he hit you
00:30:55You have photographs of that. Yes, I'd like to take a look at them
00:31:06I'm just gonna take this
00:31:08I don't know what this is from clearly shows that something happened in her mouth
00:31:11I'm not exactly sure what she has two marks that she's showing me now. Did you hit her in the mouth?
00:31:16No, your honor. You tell me in your own words
00:31:19What happened the night that she came home and you accused her of cheating?
00:31:22So the night that she came home, you know, I told her I'm like, what are you doing? Where did you go?
00:31:27She starts trying to make up excuses. I show her messages. I'm like, okay, you're lying to me
00:31:31You know, I don't appreciate it. She starts going off. I start going off, you know, just a verbal argument
00:31:36But and just like how she assaulted me. No, no, no, no. No, she didn't touch you that night. She pushed me
00:31:44Tell me how that took place. So that she pushed you. She's a very angry person. No, no, no
00:31:50How it came about that she pushed you?
00:31:53Well started arguing back and forth about how she wasn't doing anything wrong
00:31:57Okay, and now you're fighting verbally back and forth. Yes, and she pushed you she put her hands on your chest
00:32:03And she showed me how she pushed you show me on your roommate how she pushed you
00:32:09Go ahead
00:32:12And and she just started like throwing like trying to slap me and and at that moment
00:32:18That's when I pushed her over and I told her do not put your hands on me. Just a second
00:32:22So you pushed her over? Yes to defend myself just to you push her over
00:32:25All right, so this is your problem, sir. You said nothing happened that night
00:32:30You said in your answer nothing happened that night I have a copy of the police report just I reported I'm gonna look at it in a second
00:32:37Now you say here. I never assaulted Cecilia. We have plenty of arguments during the relationship, but I've never assaulted her
00:32:44She has a tendency to blow things out of proportion. I have never put my hands on a woman in my life
00:32:49Well, that's not true. You just told me you did a self-defense. Yes, you didn't say that here
00:32:54You said I've never put my hands on a woman in my life. Would that be considered a self-defense?
00:33:00Assault in so no. No, that's not what you said
00:33:04Okay. Now I'll see the police report
00:33:19Okay, so what you did is you came home after you were drinking for the night
00:33:22That's what you told the police that night of drinking and you had a fight
00:33:26He wanted to know where you wash
00:33:27She said the argument became physical the defendant here grabbed her and pinned her onto the bed while he laid on top of her
00:33:34Holding her arms down
00:33:35Proceeded to take his right hand and bruised and cut her lips. She was dizzy, but did not lose consciousness
00:33:42It was not because of the alcohol. She had previously consumed
00:33:46Cecilia said she eventually left the room and went to sleep just a second. So after this incident when he
00:33:52Allegedly hit you causing this
00:33:55Injury to your lip you went back to living with him. Yes. Yeah
00:34:01I'm reading this thing and I said, well, she said she was assaulted. She left she went home when she went to live with her parents
00:34:08But she didn't he went back to sleep and then you stayed with him because this incident
00:34:14The one that you just described to me happened on September 10th, and you went to the police on October 24th
00:34:21Yeah, then there was an incident on October 19th
00:34:25She said you had another argument, but he did not strike her because she threatened to leave if he did instead
00:34:32He punched holes in the apartment. She decided to leave after that and no longer is living with him
00:34:39Okay. Now later on in the month after the 19th
00:34:44Because now I am not considering what happened on September 10th
00:34:49Because he went back to live with him between September 10th and October 19th, did you share a bed?
00:34:55That's a question. Yes
00:34:57Every day. No four days a week
00:35:01Five days a week you were living together until the 19th of October. Yes. Where did you live?
00:35:05Well that we had couches as well as a bed. So we weren't always sleeping together. No, so, you know, I don't believe you
00:35:12Okay, good. So I'm not even considering the 10th of September later on
00:35:16There was an incident where he says you assaulted him. You came to his house where he was living now
00:35:21You were living at your parents house, right? Yes, and you came to the house. What date was that?
00:35:27It was like two days after two or three days after the breakup was the breakup in October. Yes, your honor
00:35:32It was October 12 October 12th
00:35:34Got it. You tell me what happened on October 12th. Did you go to his house? I can't remember. She was living with me
00:35:41She was living with you until that day October 12th. I moved out October 31st
00:35:45I was still living with him on that incident that happened on October 12. We broke up and that's when he punched
00:35:51Uh, I have pictures right here
00:35:53I heard punching the wall. I'm not interested. He still lives there. He's gonna have to fix the whole wall
00:35:57No, I'm saying that's why we broke up because I told him if you put his hands on me then
00:36:01But he's talking about his allegation that you assaulted him. I did not touch him. That's false
00:36:07That's your counterclaim that you have then I have to figure out what to do with these dogs
00:36:11So I have pictures and I have messages where I want to know when it happened and where let me show you
00:36:17No, I want you to tell me when did it happen and where it was a day or two after I had left?
00:36:24Which might have been October 14 or 15th
00:36:26And she was upset because I had already picked up fatty because she asked me to she text me
00:36:30I want my stuff back. I want the dog back and I told her I was like no
00:36:34If you want it, you already filed the lawsuit against me. Let's just go about it the legal way
00:36:38I told her do not show up at my house
00:36:39Which I clearly have messages where I state not to show up and in those messages
00:36:43She threatens to murder me find me and kill me at that moment
00:36:47I told her if you do not leave I will call the cops and in that second she lashed out
00:36:53grabbed my neck and
00:36:55Scratched my whole like neck and my shoulder and that's what date was that? So October 14th or 15th?
00:37:01And then you went to the police on October 24th for the first time. Yes, is that correct? Yes
00:37:07Okay, can I see your photographs, please?
00:37:20Did you report this to the police I called the police at the in the incident
00:37:24That's why she attacked him just a second. Did the police respond the police did respond
00:37:29They did not want to take a report Kevin. Would you show this to the plaintiff, please?
00:37:37He pulled a gun out on me and that's why I brought her as my witness because she was there and saw everything that happened
00:37:43that night
00:37:46Cecilia moral claims her ex-boyfriend Sayid Rodriguez owes for an assault and personal property
00:37:53Sayid is countersuing for the return of two Corgis and says he was the one assaulted now
00:38:00Did he pull a gun up?
00:38:03before
00:38:04This happened. I want you to explain exactly how it happened
00:38:07The reason I went to his house is because I noticed on my credit card that he spent six hundred dollars on a PS 5
00:38:15He's 22, by the way, what is a PS a console for gaming with those kids play fortnight? Yeah, okay
00:38:20So he spent money from your credit card. Yes. Okay. Had you contacted him about it? Yes. Well, you might have yes
00:38:26Okay, and he took my dog as well. And I she's my ESA animal. I can't be separated from her
00:38:31That's not she is my ESA animal she's what my ESA animal emotional support animal
00:38:37It's registered with the with the government
00:38:40Do you want to see the I'm not interested? Okay. Do you work? Yes, I do
00:38:46I'm a realtor as well as a financial advisor. Do you see a therapist regularly? I need to yeah
00:38:52That's not what I asked you. Do you see a therapist regularly? No
00:38:56Who did you get to write the letter for you that
00:38:59Indicated that this Corgi that you left behind is an emotional support animal. That's a question
00:39:05I'm Adam. Look at me. It had to be a doctor. Correct. It is it had to be a doctor. Yes
00:39:10What's the name of the doctor? I have no no no
00:39:14The answer is you don't know offhand the name of the doctor. Is that right? Yes
00:39:20Does the doctor live in the area where you live? No
00:39:23How many times did you
00:39:26Personally visit this doctor not once it was registered through online. Yep. The answer is never
00:39:32Yeah, so you're trying to tell me that I should look at a certificate
00:39:39That some doctor gave you online
00:39:42That you needed a support animal when you are not in any psychiatric care and haven't been
00:39:49The doctor never examined you but for a fee
00:39:53Pay attention for a fee wrote you a letter
00:39:57So that you could make this an emotional support dog. Now, I want you to tell me in what month
00:40:03May and I have the registration if you want to take a look at it. I don't want to take a look at it at all
00:40:08It's nonsense
00:40:09You know, it's nonsense and I know it's nonsense now
00:40:12There are several reasons why you get these nonsense online from close the cover before you strike
00:40:19Doctors that will attest to the fact that you need a therapy dog in order to survive
00:40:24There are several reasons for it. You want to take it to work? No, what was the reason there has to be a reason?
00:40:31Yeah, I'm really smart. I know
00:40:34Really smart it was so we didn't have to pay the pet deposit. So when we got the apartment, there you go
00:40:40So it was a fraud. No, but
00:40:43so it was a
00:40:45fraud
00:40:47So you committed a fraud so you didn't have to pay a pet deposit for your animals when I asked you
00:40:54You want to read me back the answer when I asked her?
00:40:56Do you see a psychiatrist and she says no, but I need for and you knew you needed one in May when you had to pay
00:41:03The pet deposit. No, you two people are really cute. Is that what she said? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Mr
00:41:09Rodriguez the plaintiff owns the dog. She owns the dog. She paid for the dog
00:41:14It's registered in her name the fact that you were a good caretaker
00:41:17I can't help you with that the dog looks as if it's in pretty good shape
00:41:21Believe me if the dog didn't look as if it was in pretty good shape somehow
00:41:25I would find a way but right now the dog looks as if it's in pretty good shape
00:41:28I'm directing the plaintiff. However that in the event that she has to
00:41:33remove the dogs from her parents house where she's living that she's precluded from
00:41:40Selling them or giving them away until she gives you an opportunity to take them
00:41:44I'm also directing you because I assume you live with your parents and I assume your father's gonna be watching this or I would tell
00:41:50Him when I got home that the judge called you a moron
00:41:54I will you can tell him that I will and I suggest to you that if you want to own a pet
00:42:00I've had pets all my life. You have to protect your pet from morons
00:42:04Yes
00:42:05Whether they be little children who are morons or adults who have nothing better to do than to make tik-tok videos
00:42:11Using somebody else as a fall person
00:42:15Frightening as far as the assaults are concerned. I find that you both assaulted each other on two different days
00:42:21There's no question in my mind that you assaulted him and there's no question in my mind
00:42:25That as a result of her pushing you and you have a temper
00:42:28You have a temper because I know that you broke some of the things in your apartment that you did
00:42:32In fact do something in her mouth. It didn't remove her teeth
00:42:36But clearly whatever you did to her face caused her lip to hit her tooth, which caused it to have a bruise on it
00:42:44Anything else that I have to consider? Yes, all the furniture that I left at the apartment
00:42:48Did you have a moving company come and move stuff for you? That's either a yes or a no
00:42:52I read the papers you did on what date did you have a moving company?
00:42:56It was November 1st when you hired the moving company. Did you give them a list of things to move?
00:43:01Yes, and did they move the list of the things that you gave them to move? Yes, correct
00:43:06And they moved them. Yes, so that part of your case is dismissed. It's over
00:43:11She's keeping the dogs and we're done here case is dismissed. This court is adjourned
00:43:20That's what happens when you get in narcissistic relationships people manipulate you I was with him since I was 15
00:43:26I'm 19 now. Honestly, I was pretty upset with the with the outcome of the dogs
00:43:30I haven't talked to him since in months. This is the first time I've seen him in forever. She kept coming back
00:43:35I mean, I don't like him. I don't want him ever done means on there and what's done is done. I
00:43:41Was so surprised when I found out that she was only 19
00:43:44Not a real stable place in your life to be getting a dog and let alone to when you're not settled, you know
00:43:51I think that's so unfair for dog owners when they're not settled and you know, it's just that's an immaturity
00:43:57I think what you're saying to me is
00:43:59There's an immaturity problem is when you're immature. You don't realize that it's a mistake
00:44:05Because an immature person is making a mature judgment what I actually found. I
00:44:11Mean it was stupid. It wasn't as if did something horrendous to the dog
00:44:17But frightened the dog by throwing this square of cheese at its eye
00:44:22Well, I've seen the trend and it actually did start on babies throwing slices of cheese on babies heads in high chairs
00:44:29What is happening to the world? Yeah, what's happening?
00:44:32Somebody thinks that that's funny. Yeah to startle a baby or to startle a
00:44:38Creature in order to make somebody else laugh. Yeah, you know world we live in today
00:44:43If morons want to do that, let them stick a broomstick someplace and take a tick-tock picture of it on themselves
00:44:51Yeah, I'm so why choose some other living creature. I don't understand that with you. I would build more jails
00:44:58You sir, you had a big fight because you weren't paying rent
00:45:01She got crazy punched me in the face and I fell in a chair into the glass
00:45:05She started picking up the glass and stabbing me with it. That's not true
00:45:09He has pictures bleeding. I was trying to grab the chair before or after you stabbed him with the glass
00:45:17The chair actually collided with the mirror and the mirror broke. I don't believe a word of that. This is Judy justice
00:45:24Deandre Benton is suing his former roommate
00:45:29Chauncey Rayford for personal belongings lost wages and an assault court come to order all rise
00:45:38Have a seat, please
00:45:41Hello judge case 3119 Benton versus Rayford, thank you. You're welcome
00:45:45Mr. Benton it is your claim that the defendant who rented a room in her home to you
00:45:52Assaulted you dispose of your property correct and because of all the turmoil you missed time at work
00:45:59Yes, ma'am. You want seven thousand five hundred dollars? Yes, that's what you're asking for
00:46:04Fenden says that you assaulted her she had lost wages
00:46:08She had pain and suffering as a result of this assault, which I assume took place on the same day. Yes, correct
00:46:15Okay, how did you find the room in miss Rayford's home?
00:46:19It was on a roommate app like Roomster to be exact on what date did you find the ad June 15th?
00:46:26And where was it located? Atlanta, Georgia 30311. So that was in June and you looked at the room
00:46:33Yes, ma'am. And what was the rent? It was negotiated to be 750 that
00:46:38$750 a month. Yes, ma'am. What kind of work were you doing? Then? I was working fast food at the moment
00:46:44When did you move in July 15th, July 15th 15th?
00:46:48Yes, ma'am. And how much rent did you pay for the month of July this full amount?
00:46:53$750 I paid 250 to hold the room and
00:46:57509 for the remaining balance in the month of August
00:47:00Tell me what rent you paid her and when I did get I did give her look at me. Be very careful with me. I
00:47:09Want you to be very careful with me. How much rent did you give her in the month of August?
00:47:14I didn't give her anything. How much rent did you give her in September? She wasn't there
00:47:19How much rent did you pay anyone in September? I paid her a portion of the rent
00:47:24But what do you mean a portion of the rent? It was my understanding that you own this home. Yes
00:47:30Just a second. She didn't own the home. It's a my knowledge
00:47:33She wasn't even supposed to be written out the home to have rooms just a second
00:47:37I'm just asking you you're now living in somebody's house. Mm-hmm, and you agreed to pay
00:47:43$750 a month rent. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh is a yes. Yes, and you paid no rent for the month of August
00:47:49That was because when I did come into the home on the 31st
00:47:54I moved in on the 15th like I communicated to you on the 30th. My belongings was outside the home
00:47:59I had to sleep outside like an animal. Okay, what about in September you was still in the home in September?
00:48:06Yeah, I was still in the home September. She would still issue just a second
00:48:10You were still you're not gonna talk over me. You were still in the home in September. Mm-hmm. Not uh-huh. That's a yes
00:48:17Yes, you were still in the home in September. And how much rent did you pay in September?
00:48:23I paid her $500 in just a second in September. You paid her $500. Yes. Okay, October
00:48:29Nothing was paid after that. You paid no rent. No. Okay. Where are you living now? I live with a friend now
00:48:36That's a lie
00:48:40That's a lie we just checked yeah, I do okay, well just a second I move just a sec
00:48:49Stupid is not here sir. Pretty aware stupid is not here. So now you're a squatter
00:48:56in a place where you're paying no rent and
00:49:00You live with him. No, ma'am. I have my own. Oh good cuz he doesn't live with you
00:49:04He's living in a place where he doesn't pay rent he moved in and stopped paying
00:49:12I'm not finished with you
00:49:15Either do you understand? Yes, I understand. Very good
00:49:19So if you understand you weren't living outside like an animal and you've been living for August September October November
00:49:26December January and February seven months in a place in which you pay no rent. Well, can I say question?
00:49:34How am I supposed to pay rent when I had several?
00:49:36Eviction notices and she wasn't there to show up
00:49:44You are a squatter she told me you're a squatter
00:49:48Well, if she told you that you don't have to then the two of you were in collusion here
00:49:52I'm not talking about ma'am
00:49:53Who told you you didn't have to pay the judge because I didn't say the judge didn't say I had to pay the judge said
00:49:58I did not have to leave that she didn't find a reason to eviction of me because she didn't show up and provide her
00:50:04I'm just telling you you're a squatter. You don't pay rent
00:50:08Everybody else here pays a mortgage pays a maintenance you moved in and you became a squatter and I don't care what some other
00:50:16Nitwit said to you you're a squatter
00:50:18So you get zero for the rent for your property. I'll get to the assault in a minute
00:50:23I read your answer. When did you purchase the house June?
00:50:28June of 2021. What was your mortgage the first year from June when I moved in in 2021?
00:50:36It was 1575 a month for the mortgage
00:50:39Correct, June of 2022 it increased by $40 and went to 1615 in what month?
00:50:46Did you stop paying the mortgage September of 2023?
00:50:50Why?
00:50:53Deandre Benton claims his former roommates Chauncey Rayford threw away his property and assaulted him
00:51:01Chauncey is counter suing for property damage and says she was the one assaulted now in what month did you stop?
00:51:09Paying the mortgage. Well to be completely honest with you. Yeah, I don't want you to be dishonest with me
00:51:15You have to be honest with me because I know everything. Yes, ma'am. I got laid off
00:51:20I was okay. Just living off of savings for a few months. Things got hard
00:51:24Just a second. You got laid off from what job where Carvana? And this was November of 2022
00:51:33All right, so you've already been laid off for a year and you're telling me you paid your mortgage until September. Yes, ma'am
00:51:39I was doing anything I could for my app called insta work
00:51:43Okay, so then you stopped paying your mortgage in September. Yes
00:51:47October 23rd was the date that I was told that myself and Deandre needed to be out and I just asked you a question
00:51:54They foreclosed on the house in October. Yes. Where did you go? I had to move back with my mother in the state of, Missouri
00:52:01I lost everything my job
00:52:04the home my dog
00:52:07Okay. So now the bank owns the house. Yes, correct, and he's been squandering all of his money
00:52:13Okay, so now the bank owns the house yes, correct and he's been squatting in the house since October yes, she will not leave
00:52:23Now I've listened to what you just said just about the ownership of the house and when she turned it back to the bank
00:52:29You said in your brief questioning before that she didn't own the house
00:52:36She was a renter, you know, I wasn't supposed to be there in the first place and she knew that I wasn't even aware of
00:52:41Just a second if she owns the house you can be there. She doesn't own the house. She doesn't own it anymore
00:52:48She never did. Well show me proof of that. Okay that I'd like to see
00:53:03Were you renting with an option to buy yes, ma'am without ah, I got it now
00:53:09He's absolutely right you were not the owner of the house you were a renter and you had an option to buy
00:53:15Correct, and I was gonna do so
00:53:18Shoulda woulda coulda you two people actually deserve each other
00:53:22Because what you suggest in your papers is that you ran into hard times and you let the bank take the house
00:53:29Well, you didn't let the bank do anything because you didn't own the house. You were a renter and you stopped paying rent
00:53:35Isn't that right that is correct right so as far as I'm concerned you both deserve each other
00:53:41I don't know who you're not paying rent to somebody owns this house
00:53:45And they've been probably trying to get you out of the house for a very very long time
00:53:51The person that owned the home came to the home and said she was already far behind before I even moved in
00:53:57That's the whole reason why
00:54:00You're not supposed to be there you're a squatter do I look like a squatter you are one you live in a place
00:54:07That's not yours. You're not paying rent. You're a squatter. Yeah for people that don't try to pay rent
00:54:12At least I was trying to pay the rent
00:54:14Every time I try to make a baby every once in a while, but I'm 81 years old. It doesn't happen
00:54:22All right, I want to hear
00:54:24Something about this assault that happened when you were both
00:54:28Living in this place that belonged to somebody else and neither one of you was paying rent. She was
00:54:34Who are you? I'm her witness. Were you there when this assault took place?
00:54:39Okay, then I'll hear you after I hear them now. What is the date of this alleged assault?
00:54:46October 10th. Yes, ma'am, and you were still living there not paying rent as of September in October
00:54:51She was still living there. Yes, ma'am. Tell me what happened. I came outside out of my room
00:54:56She was already being aggressive about the non-paying rent and I've already been trying to be communicative with her
00:55:02No, I said, hey, I don't want to hear you. That's I'm not speaking. You're always me. I'm out
00:55:07Okay, then you're done with that way out
00:55:16All right, um
00:55:18Basically, I don't want you basically I want to hear to the best of your recollection on October 10th
00:55:242023 you were both in the house. You were in your room. She got crazy late. Basically long story short. She got crazy
00:55:30I tried to come inside the house and sit in the chair. The lady pulled the chair from me
00:55:35I have the pictures and everything of it pulled the chair from me which lady this one right here
00:55:40Pulled the chair out from under you tried to sit down. Yes, ma'am
00:55:43And what pulled the chair out from me punched me in the face and I fell in a chair into the glass
00:55:48She started picking up the glass and stabbing me with it
00:55:50And I had to call the ambulance the police came to me I see may I see the police report, please
00:56:07Did you ever speak to the police miss Rayford that day it's that day no, ma'am
00:56:12I ended up leaving because okay, just a second
00:56:15Don't tell me because the police have
00:56:17Memorialized what they saw on the 10th and they saw him with multiple wounds on his body
00:56:23Some were bandaged and some not you were not in the house
00:56:27This person I assume is your girlfriend, correct?
00:56:30Okay, so the two of you were in the house after this incident took place. Whatever the incident was the two of you left
00:56:37That's correct. He called the police. I'm not sure what he did. You didn't call the police
00:56:42No, I did not know now so from you I would like to see I have when you left the house
00:56:49Ran out of the house with your girlfriend
00:56:51I assume you went right to an emergency room or something as a result of the lacerations that you say you
00:56:57Sustained as a result of this fight. So I'd like to see those records. I did not go to
00:57:03Seek emergency treatment because I didn't have any insurance. I just bandaged it up myself
00:57:07Well, where did you run to to go and get bandage? And when did you come back to the house?
00:57:12I did not I would that was my last day. So that was your last day. Oh, that's so now
00:57:17She did I would only return when he was not there to collect my things
00:57:22Just a second. So you did go back. I'm feeling I was right. He would not be there when I would return
00:57:28I have text messages of me asking my neighbor to let me know when he's not there as well. I have photos
00:57:33I'm gonna look at both your photos and then you're gonna tell me your version of what happened
00:57:38Yes, because there's no question that he was injured because the police memorialized that I assume he has photographs as well
00:57:45Now I want you to tell me your version of what happened. I was working from home
00:57:49He was already up that morning and he was the one being loud. He was sitting on my workstation
00:57:54I kept asking him politely to move so that I can go ahead and start working. He refused to move
00:57:58He told me he had a right to sit wherever he wanted to in the home now mind you
00:58:02He's never just a second. Did you pull the chair out from under him?
00:58:09DeAndre Benton has accused his former roommate Chauncey Rayford of throwing away his belongings and
00:58:16Assaulting him Chauncey is counter suing claiming DeAndre damaged property and assaulted her
00:58:23Did you pull the chair up from under him? No, he was not sitting at it at that time
00:58:27I was trying to move myself. He had walked outside the front door and as he did that I
00:58:32Was trying to grab the chair and he ran towards it and sat in it and that's what the chair actually
00:58:38Collided with the mirror and the mirror broke at that and then and then he proceeded to pick up pieces of glass and I have
00:58:44The photos of my injury right here lie. I don't want to kill you. He also damaged my work equipment
00:58:50I had just started that job July 17th lost my job on Friday, October 13th because he damaged my computer
00:58:57I have a police report that I filed because I'd like to see it when I did return to the home
00:59:02After you know stitching myself up. You didn't stitch yourself up. I did go and get bandages. You didn't stitch yourself up
00:59:08Well, okay the wrong. Okay. Yeah, this is what I submitted just a second. I asked you for your police report
00:59:16Yes, period. Okay, show it to me. It's right here. This is what I have filed online
00:59:21After communicating with my job, they told me just a second for them to this is on the 12th
00:59:25You said this happened on the 9th. It did happen on the 9th your honor
00:59:28And what I did was I was in communication with my employer to see what they felt was best because what does she do for?
00:59:35A living she was a shift manager. She still work. Yes. She works. Why wasn't she paying rent? We don't live together
00:59:42She had her own place
00:59:43Interesting. Okay, he wanted to say something to me. Yes, that's actually a life as far as me assaulting her
00:59:48I never once touched this lady. I never once disrespected her
00:59:51I never once raised a hand at her or tried to like physically harm her. She was very aggressive very disrespectful. That's not true
00:59:57Okay, can I see photographs, please?
01:00:27Spiders
01:00:57I
01:01:28I
01:01:31This isn't sitting well with me this was supposed to be easy
01:01:34I don't have my truck or my money like how does that work?
01:01:37And then I offered to just go down there and get it myself and then he said there was no place I said, okay
01:01:42But how do I get it home with no place?
01:01:44So this whole time he was kind of dragging me on and then
01:01:48This is the picture of another truck that he sent me. That's a picture of him
01:01:52Yeah, he's holding in front of the truck the second truck. He supposedly had bought for me at the auction
01:01:57Yeah, he just told me he bought the second truck at an auction that there's no indication that that auction house where he said
01:02:02He bought it sold a truck that he said that he bought either in June or July got that, right?
01:02:08Yeah, okay. I don't have to waste any more time. You have no paperwork. Mr. McIntosh that you bought this truck
01:02:13You have no proof at all that you brought this phantom truck to her house
01:02:18Why would she be asking for her money back?
01:02:20As I bought her truck and I dropped it off front of her house left for the paperwork saying what's wrong with the truck in
01:02:26The truck she says that she didn't want it
01:02:28So I said my finest feels only like $400 and that's $200 for just a
01:02:34Bus ticket to get there. She can sell the truck and get her money back. That's what I told her
01:02:40$2,700 judgment for the plaintiffs. Thank you very much. This court is adjourned. I
01:02:44Hope this don't affect the relationship with my nieces and nephew. I'm not really hit a bad talk to anybody
01:02:49I just want it. You know my money back
01:02:51Left it there with the papers and the receipts right is right wrong is wrong
01:02:55She said she didn't want I thought she can sell it back get her money back
01:02:57I feel like he kind of screwed it up in a way. I just want to be a good uncle all the time. I
01:03:03Love when a website is so meticulous and gives us all the evidence that we need this website had a very
01:03:10Interesting well planned out photos company towing company towing an auctioneer house had every single auction
01:03:15Every car that was sold photos the username of the person who purchased it and the price of the vehicle
01:03:22I can't imagine a company like that doing that voluntarily and it has to be
01:03:28By law to be licensed in order to avoid stolen cars being auctioned auctioned off
01:03:34Mm-hmm has to be a very smart. Yeah, good way to track the evidence. That was the Annabelle Barone
01:03:40He's suing her ex-boyfriend
01:03:43Asayel Arteaga for a loan we're coming to order all rise
01:03:48Have a seat, please
01:03:50Hello judge case number 2060 bar on versus Arteaga. Thank you. You're welcome
01:03:56Miss Barone case is not a very difficult one. You've met. Mr. Arteaga
01:04:01How did the other had take your hands out of your pockets at a bar?
01:04:04Yes, when back in June of 2021, did you ever live together?
01:04:09No, you always maintained your own residence and he his yes the apartment I owned was always underneath my name
01:04:15But he never lived there. No good, but you bought a car. Yes in what month of year. Did you buy a car?
01:04:22I ordered a Tesla back in if I'm not mistaken May and I may have what year may of
01:04:282021 was it a new car? Yes
01:04:31Give me a rough number. How much was it out the door?
01:04:3572,000 and what color did you order black?
01:04:38This is what the case is about and it's going to take me very very little time to resolve the case
01:04:42you ordered the
01:04:44$72,000 car in black and because of whatever strange reason you wanted the car wrapped now
01:04:51I think most people know what that means and I think I know what that means
01:04:55That means you take a perfectly good car and you put a different finish on it. Is that what it means?
01:05:00Yes, you buy a car that has a nice shiny finish and looks clean and then you put something on it that I don't know
01:05:07It looks like it's been sitting out under a volcano. I
01:05:11Guess you could say that what I guess you could say that I just did
01:05:16And that cost money it costs an additional I think according to the papers that I read
01:05:23$3,800. No, it's how many thousand nine hundred fifty how much three thousand nine hundred fifty and you had some of that money
01:05:30But you gave him
01:05:32Transfer to him
01:05:34$1,800 on your credit card. Yes, so it was an agreement made between no. No, I didn't ask you. Mm-hmm
01:05:39I didn't you transferred to him
01:05:43$1,800 towards this wrap on his car. I made the payment for him
01:05:49You made the payment for him on a credit card
01:05:51Yes
01:05:52And according to you your arrangement was that he would pay you back monthly a hundred bucks, correct?
01:05:57You don't dispute that she offered yes, you offered and you did in fact on three separate months pay her back
01:06:05$100. Yes, and that means that in your view it was alone. Well, it was more of a gift
01:06:12Well, then why would you pay her back $100 a month? Mr.
01:06:16Artiega because our finances are much different. She what do you mean? I was getting a car
01:06:21I ordered a car so it was a gift for me
01:06:23But she already knew that I was looking for a PPF which is a paint protection film
01:06:28So I'm more to me. You're not answering my question
01:06:31You're doing a dance around my question if it was a gift to you this
01:06:37$1,800 towards the wrap for your car. Why did you pay her back?
01:06:42$300 to help her out. Yeah, and then you stopped because that sounds ridiculous
01:06:49You still have the Tesla. I still do. Yes, you making payments on it. Yes, ma'am
01:06:53Good. What kind of work do you do? I'm an electrical superintendent
01:06:57expensive car
01:06:58Indeed it is your single guy. Yes, it's what single guys do with their money
01:07:04Tell me why you stopped paying her back. Mr. Artiega things got sour very quick. So things got sour with the relationship
01:07:11Yes, okay. And is that when you stop paying her? Yes good judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of
01:07:17$1,500 is what he owes you for the balance of the loan. Thank you. We're done. This court is adjourned
01:07:24We broke up. It was a nasty breakup
01:07:26There was bad feelings and tensions between the both of us. It was a bad breakup
01:07:30Yes, but there's a lot more details to it
01:07:32It was just out of pettiness at the end of the day because she caused a lot of rift
01:07:35I'm just not gonna loan out money to just anyone from here on out
01:07:39I'm glad it's over and I'm really happy. I get my $1,500 back
01:07:44Now that we've been here for a little while and I've been learning from you and all these cases that we've seen
01:07:49Still rule number one never give a boyfriend money and expect to ever see it again
01:07:54You will never see it again. It gets messy. It gets entangled and we see it time and time again
01:08:00So it's just hits even harder at home. Have you noticed Sarah that it's probably
01:08:0880-20 that women give money to boyfriends at least what we've seen here. Yes
01:08:14You know and if this is a microcosm of the world and I don't know what that is
01:08:18I haven't been able to figure it out
01:08:19I've been doing this kind of business for 30 years and I can't figure out why perfectly lovely young woman guys buying a
01:08:29$72,000 car and says hey, babe. I'm short
01:08:33$1,800. Well, if you're short $1,800 buy a cheaper car. Yeah, you know, there are cars that cost less than
01:08:40$72,000 but women should be smarter and not agreed as you are if they were to make
01:08:44Mandatory watching these cases as part of a growing up process a lot of great life
01:08:50Case 2073
01:08:52Joseph's versus Williams all parties, please
01:08:55Step forward Donnell Joseph is suing his niece Tina Williams and his sister Martha Williams for personal property
01:09:03Mr. Joseph, these two ladies are your half-sisters my half-sister and I know my niece. So what's your first name?
01:09:11Martha Williams Martha is your half-sister. Yes, and your first name Tina. Tina is your niece?
01:09:17Yes, and you and Martha had the same mother
01:09:20Yes, your mother had a house the house was in her name your mother passed away in the early 70s
01:09:26Yes at that time. She was married to your father. Not your father
01:09:31correct and
01:09:33Your father lived in the house until he died. Yes, and he died in what year?
01:09:382018 somehow the house which had been in your mother's name never went through a probate process
01:09:45So as far as the law was concerned the house remained in her name
01:09:49It never went to her surviving spouse or her children when she passed away in the early 70s
01:09:56What I'm reading is when your father passed away in
01:10:012018 the house sort of remained vacant for a while for how long
01:10:06Since he passed away
01:10:08So nobody's lived there, correct, and you knew your father passed away. I assume yes, and you knew your mother passed away
01:10:15Yes, and after your mother passed away. She passed away in 1971 in 1972
01:10:21Did you ever visit with your father in that house? I visit with my father lived in the house from when to when well lived
01:10:28in the house
01:10:301963 until like
01:10:321972 and I start moving out, but I will still go back to the house because I don't have any home
01:10:37I want to know the last time. Mr. Joseph you lived in the house
01:10:431993 so almost 30 years ago. And where have you been the last 30 years? I've been in New York
01:10:50I've been incarcerated. You've been incarcerated from when to when 93 to
01:10:552012 so
01:10:571993 is when you last lived in the house, correct, but you were released from prison in
01:11:032012 yes, so for the last 10 years you have not been back to the house
01:11:08I've been back to the house, but not living there as a resident
01:11:11So for 10 years, right as an adult, how old are you? I'm 64 as an adult from age
01:11:1954 to 64 you had access to the house visited your father in the house, right?
01:11:24Not before then right? Okay, and you haven't lived there full-time in decades, correct?
01:11:30This is what your lawsuit warrants
01:11:35You had 10 years after you were released from prison to go and get these treasures and you didn't do it because my father's house
01:11:42Was like the treasure of all his children's property
01:11:45How close he has as long as he had a bicycle or a Boy Scout book. Let's start being real. Okay
01:11:55You
01:12:02Don L Joseph claims his niece Tina Williams and his sister Martha Williams threw away his personal belongings
01:12:10Tina and Martha are countersuing for the cost of a cleaning crew. The lawsuit is seeking
01:12:17$10,000. Yes, because according to you the defendants
01:12:22Disposed of your property that was
01:12:25invaluable and I'm going to describe the property that you say was invaluable a
01:12:321911 Boy Scout handbook. Yes that you treasure. Yes
01:12:36You should have taken it out of the house in 30 years if you treasured it a mountain bike
01:12:42Purchased in what year was a 71 is 72 around there
01:12:47I know it was a free spirits can't speed. I got that was in
01:12:511970 Univega you wanted it this 50 year old mountain bike. You should have taken it over the last 10 years a
01:12:59Vintage reel-to-reel tape player. Yes, you know how many of those I threw in the trash
01:13:05Do you have any idea how many of those I threw in the trash? You got those a
01:13:11Half a century ago. Oh my god
01:13:13I remember them big reels and how excited we were you could talk into a
01:13:17Microphone and and then you could hear your voice come back and then all of a sudden you got a phone you could do that
01:13:22The same thing so everybody took these things and they couldn't find enough places to dispose of them
01:13:29It's not vintage anything. It's a piece of trash
01:13:33Can I speak your honor about what?
01:13:35okay, the reel-to-reel tapes right some of the tapes had speakings of my brother and
01:13:41Martha's daughter then you should have taken them with you in 40 years if they were
01:13:45Treasures of yours sir, and you're 64 years old
01:13:49I would want those treasures around me and you had
01:13:52Ten years after you were released from prison to go and get these treasures and you didn't do it
01:13:57You just left them in your father's house because my father's house was like the treasure of all his children's property
01:14:05This is how we connected to our father because everybody is left. Everybody has died
01:14:09So long as he has as long as he had a bicycle knows he had a bicycle or a Boy Scout book
01:14:14That's the Boy Scout books handed down to me. Let's talk about this. Let's start being real. Okay?
01:14:20Okay, let's start being real. Okay, and the first draft of my published manuscript. Yes
01:14:27Why didn't you take that with you for safekeepings? I let my father hold it because well, that's not a good idea
01:14:33Sir, how old was your father when he passed away?
01:14:35He was 88, but my father's mind was shocked as as attack
01:14:39He kept everything if you wanted it your father passed in 2018. Is that what you're telling me?
01:14:45I couldn't get nothing out of the house
01:14:46So I don't know whether you could or whether you couldn't when did you make it just a second?
01:14:50When did you make an effort to remove your man forget about the bike forget about real to real tape recorder?
01:14:57Forget about the nonsense your manuscript. When did you write this manuscript? I write it over a couple of years as a
01:15:05This book it's the first draft of that book this book
01:15:09Well now you have the book and I needed to draft yet because the other draft I'm working on on the second book that goes
01:15:15Along with this book. I don't have certain notes and things that I had it doesn't exist anymore. Yes, it doesn't
01:15:21It doesn't exist anymore. And if you wanted it, you should have gotten it in
01:15:252018 when your father died you were out of prison. Where were you living?
01:15:29I was living in New York. And where did your father live? He lived in Los Angeles between
01:15:332012 and 2018. How many trips did you make to visit with your father about three? And when did you publish that book?
01:15:412015 so you published that book during your father's lifetime
01:15:44Yes, and if you needed the manuscript you came to visit your father a manuscript. It's this big
01:15:50That's how big a manuscript is. Yes. Where were you living in New York and Albany?
01:15:55You have your own apartment or your own house do you own a rent Oh
01:15:59When did you purchase it? Oh wife. We bought it together. It was in 2009. So you're married. Yes have children
01:16:06No, so you and your wife purchased a house in 2009. How much did you pay for the house?
01:16:12109,000 are you still living there? Yes, so you had plenty of room in the house. You had plenty of room for a manuscript tapes a
01:16:20Manuscript that you were working on you weren't working on the manuscript long-distance what I'm telling you. Mr
01:16:26Joseph is the things that you're suing for a nonsense
01:16:28Okay, if things that you wanted that a grown-up man 64 years old gets if he wants them
01:16:35It's not that you were homeless you have a home home that you purchased you went to visit your father three times anything of value
01:16:42We're not talking about furniture and antiques and a grandfather clock. We're talking about things that can fit in a tissue box
01:16:50You put them in your suitcase and take them with you if they're valuable
01:16:53I couldn't visit California before that because the conditions of my parole
01:16:58So the times that I could go I I can go out there not to have you told me you went out there three times
01:17:03Yes, when your father was when I had when I have permission to go so I couldn't after my father passed away
01:17:07I couldn't go in the house because that would violate the probate thing. So I had permission. No to go and not you're not
01:17:14Understanding me. Mr. Joseph
01:17:16You're not understanding you went there three times
01:17:20After you were out of prison
01:17:23After you had a home
01:17:25After you were married when you went there with a suitcase
01:17:29Don't tell me violating your parole unless you told me that and in the suitcase should have been when you returned from
01:17:37California to New York small things of value that you say were
01:17:43invaluable to you including a
01:17:45Manuscript forget the bicycle forget the tape-to-tape reel recorder the tapes that you say were
01:17:52Precious to you if they belong to you put them in a suitcase
01:17:55So there's a lot more about this that I don't quite understand
01:18:00There's a lot about this that I don't quite understand when your father passed away who got the house. That's the house
01:18:06Your father passed away. What happened to the house? The house is still in probate
01:18:11So doing the probate thing I had to have permission to take anything out of the house again, I'm telling you the
01:18:18I've answered your lawsuit, sir. Okay. I've answered your lawsuit
01:18:22Okay, that you're a 64 year old man
01:18:25And if something that could fit in a tissue box was that precious to you when you visited your father and you had a home
01:18:31You would have taken it with you when you left certain things. I could this is not a tea dance
01:18:37The property has lost of this but I lost a sister in this process
01:18:41And it makes no difference of how this go. I lost a sister. This isn't the probate court
01:18:46So I would suggest that you all take a deep breath and say whatever it is
01:18:53Let it be finished
01:19:08Donnell Joseph claims his niece Tina Williams and his sister Martha Williams threw away his personal belongings
01:19:15Tina and Martha are counter suing for the cost of a cleaning crew
01:19:19I asked you if the house is still in probate, which is unfortunate because people didn't take care of the business
01:19:25Who are the beneficiaries of the sale of the house me?
01:19:29My sister LaWanda my half brother Justin Joseph
01:19:33Justin Joseph my sister Sherry's two sons. Okay, let's try to clarify this. Are you the executor of the will?
01:19:41There's no will I'm my mom's the administrator of the probate and I just got to be administrated
01:19:47We had to go back and forth to court
01:19:49We had no way of getting in and out of the house because we had no keys
01:19:53Okay, and your father I assume had no will yeah, no. Well, what's the value of the house?
01:19:59Well, we don't know because since Martha become the administrator just like what's the address of the house
01:20:05My mom had the house appraised at 250
01:20:08She's gonna tell me
01:20:10So the off-market says it's approximating
01:20:15464,000 it's a three-bed one-bath
01:20:18858 square feet and the estimate the range is between
01:20:21405 15. Oh, well, the family has a valuable asset that has yet to be divided after all this time
01:20:28It's a good lesson for everybody out there make a will
01:20:32Now you can tell thank you my grandma which is their mother she bought the house on her own with my mom's
01:20:40Last name, which is her dad statement. It's her maiden name who she was married to we don't know if they were married
01:20:46That's what we're going through in probate. It's a process but the beneficiaries would be
01:20:51Donnell my mom and two heirs of a deceased sibling Donnell has also been in jail for most of my life
01:20:59He hasn't been to California at all. So I wanted to back that up as well
01:21:03Well, he's not entitled to anything if he wanted these items that were valuable to him
01:21:07He should have taken them during his 64 years the most safest place that I had in the world for my value
01:21:12Well, that's what's my home in New York with your wife and you had an opportunity to take these valuable things
01:21:19Because you said you visited with your father after
01:21:222009 then you should have taken them and don't tell me it was the safest place because not only the safest thing but my father
01:21:29He lost two sons
01:21:31Sierra only thing that he had in the front in his house is the things that was left over from his children and to take
01:21:36Anything that was a value away from his children would have hurt my father. I don't let this place to Joseph. Mr
01:21:42Joseph, you don't think you're going to prison hurt your father. Yes. Okay. Let's watch
01:21:47Let's get real, okay, you're not getting any money here
01:21:50Okay
01:21:50You're gonna wait for probate and in the probate procedure, which hopefully won't take forever
01:21:55But it clearly can because people are irresponsible and don't create a will it is
01:22:00likely that you will have part of the proceeds of this house likely only because if your mother passed away and
01:22:07If she was in fact married to your father or lived with him at that time in California
01:22:13If there was a common-law relationship and they did have children together
01:22:17Then you as a offspring would be entitled if there was no will to part of the proceeds of this house
01:22:23Yes, when she bought the house she bought it as a married woman. So when she didn't buy
01:22:28That's something. Mr. Joseph. You don't have to convince me of you have to convince the probate judge
01:22:33Okay, you also have a counterclaim. That's ridiculous and I'm not entertaining it. It's really just stupid stay with probate
01:22:39When is the probate proceeding supposed to be finished?
01:22:42Well, we're going through
01:22:44mandatory
01:22:45Settlement one thing. I want to say your honor. However, this probate is I want to do
01:22:50You know the property as losses did but I lost a sister in this process
01:22:54He said he was and it make it makes no difference of how this go. I lost a sister my niece
01:23:00This isn't the probate court
01:23:02This is not the probate court. Mr. Joseph, and I suggest that if you love your sister
01:23:08She know I love just a second if you love your sister
01:23:12Four-years-old to me and you're sick, you know, I love you. Mr. Joseph
01:23:16Mr. Joseph. Yeah, I know you can get emotional in
01:23:20Situations where family is involved and your sister clearly is sick because she's using oxygen. I just had liver surgery
01:23:28Mr. Joseph, what I'm telling you is if you have an opportunity in the probate court
01:23:34I'm actually telling this to both you and miss Williams if you have an opportunity at your age and your
01:23:41Stage to settle something that gives each of you something
01:23:46Maybe less than you would get if somebody was disinherited
01:23:50But at this stage in life at 64 years old somebody who just had liver surgery and someone who must rely on
01:23:56Oxygen in order to breathe my common sense tells me that what you do is not to give the whole thing away to lawyers
01:24:03Who are there?
01:24:05Sucking up whatever profits there are going to be in this house because if the house is worth
01:24:11$200,000 you're gonna get a bill for a hundred and forty thousand dollars for the probate administrator for the lawyers and you're gonna wind up
01:24:19with
01:24:20Zippity-doo-dah, so I would suggest that you all take a deep breath and say whatever it is
01:24:27Let it be finished
01:24:30You have no case. Mr. Joseph rely on the probate system. I wish you good luck
01:24:34I said I'm your counter suits ridiculous. Oh, I have to I want to tell you something your countersuit for having to rehire somebody to
01:24:41Move is ridiculous. I'm telling you rely on the probate court. We are done here
01:24:46Would you please let me present my counters? No, I read it. I read it. I'm dismissing it on its face. We're done
01:24:52This court is adjourned
01:24:56All I can say is I
01:24:58Love my sister this the same thing that's happening nothing whether it's a probate thing or not
01:25:04That ain't gonna never change. I don't want to hear anything else. I'm always loving because that's my sister
01:25:09Let the probates court decide
01:25:12You know at 25 after doing season one of this show I created and executed a will because this is a situation
01:25:19We've seen far too many times and it's so unfortunate to see the breakdown of a family
01:25:24Over something that could have been prevented had the mother father grandfather grandmother
01:25:29Created a will when they were alive to tell the rest of us how they prefer their property to be disposed of it's fascinating to me
01:25:36That their mother is gone for 50 years and for 50 years that title to that house
01:25:43Which is a never flagged never was nobody ever thought about it
01:25:47Yeah
01:25:47And the father lived there for 40 years must have at least paid the taxes taxes because it did absolutely and

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