- 5/19/2025
Panayam kay Justice Undersecretary Nicholas Felix Ty ukol sa pagpapatibay ng collaboration ng Pilipinas at Cambodian laban sa human trafficking
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00:00To make a collaboration with the Philippines and Cambodia
00:03against human trafficking,
00:05we will be able to do it with DOJ Secretary Nicholas Felix T.
00:09USEC in charge of Interagency Council Against Trafficking.
00:13USEC T, good morning.
00:18USEC, you're muted.
00:21Yes.
00:23Good morning, Asik Dale.
00:24Good morning, Director Cheryl.
00:26Thank you for your time.
00:28USEC, una po sa lahat,
00:30ano po ang layunin na kamakailang regional dialogue and knowledge exchange
00:34sa pagitan ng Pilipinas at Cambodia?
00:37At paano po ito naiba sa mga naunang inisiyatiba laban sa human trafficking?
00:43Narealize natin dito sa laban ng human trafficking
00:46dahil transnational crime ito,
00:48na importante talaga na makipag-ugnayan tayo sa mga karatik bansa natin.
00:52At yun sa Cambodia,
00:53medyo madaming mga insidente na
00:55kung may mga kababayan tayo
00:57na napupunta doon,
00:58nalinin lang,
00:59at sa panig natin,
01:01ay nabibiktima.
01:03Kung naalala natin,
01:04noong huling taon,
01:05ay may dalawampung,
01:07dalawampung Pilipina
01:08na napunta sa,
01:09napunta sa Cambodia bilang
01:11sobregat mothers
01:11at pagting doon,
01:13ay sila ay kinasuhan, ano,
01:15at nakatulan,
01:16at buti na lang,
01:16binigyan ng pardon
01:17ng hari ng Cambodia,
01:21kaya din sila nakulong.
01:22Bukod doon,
01:23napakaraming Pilipino pa rin
01:24na napupunta sa mga scam hub doon sa Cambodia
01:27upang magtrabaho doon
01:28at nabibiktima din ng human trafficking.
01:30So doon natin may kita na importante
01:32yung pakipag-ugnayan,
01:34hindi lang dahil,
01:35hindi lang para makuha ng informasyon,
01:37hindi lang para mapakiusapan
01:38yung mga kababayan natin
01:39na nabibiktima,
01:41pero para intindihin
01:43ang mga iba-ibang pananaw natin,
01:45kasi nga,
01:46ang Pilipinas
01:47at ang Cambodia
01:48may mga pagkakaiba
01:50sa kanilang mga pananaw.
01:52Magandang halimbawa na doon
01:53yung nangyaribe sa mga Pilipinang
01:55naging sobregat mothers doon,
01:56touring natin
01:57ay mga biktima sila
01:58ng human trafficking,
02:00pero para sa Cambodia,
02:02sila naman ang naging biktima,
02:03sila ang kriminal,
02:04dahil para sa Cambodia,
02:05sila ay nagpenta ng mga bata
02:07doon sa kanilang bansa.
02:09Yusek,
02:09ano po ang naging papel
02:10ng Department of Justice
02:12sa dayalogong ito?
02:13Ang Department of Justice
02:16ay ang chairperson
02:16ng Inter-Agency Council
02:17Against Trafficking.
02:19Nag-reach out kami
02:20sa counterpart ng IACAT,
02:21ang NCCT,
02:22National Committee
02:24for Counter-Trafficking
02:26ng Cambodia,
02:27upang kausapin sila,
02:28magkamin ng dialogo na ito,
02:30at ang Cambodia naman
02:31ay dinala,
02:32dinala yung mga relevant
02:34agencies sila
02:35sa dialogue na ito.
02:36Nandun ang kanilang DOJ,
02:39nandun ang kanilang DSWD,
02:40nandun ang kanilang Bureau
02:41of Immigration,
02:42at nandun din
02:43ang kanilang mga pulis,
02:44kasi ito yung mga ehensya
02:46na malaki ang papel
02:48dito sa laban
02:50contra human trafficking.
02:51Yusek,
02:52ano po ang best practices
02:53na naibahagi ng Cambodia
02:55na maaari nating i-adopt
02:57laban o contra
02:58human trafficking?
02:59Isang mga,
03:02isang,
03:04kung baka hindi naman practice,
03:05pero yung parang perspektibo
03:07na nabigay nila sa atin,
03:09ay yun,
03:10baka maaaring
03:11pag-isipan natin muli
03:12itong ating
03:13napakaliberal
03:14na approach
03:15sa ating mga kababayan.
03:16Nabasa ang kababayan natin
03:18ay malinlang
03:18sa isang scam hub
03:19sa Cambodia,
03:20tinuturing na natin
03:21silang biktima,
03:22binibigyan ng pinapauwi,
03:23binibigyan ng ayuda
03:24at kung ano-ano.
03:25Pero sa Cambodia,
03:27hindi ganun kasimple.
03:28Para sa kanila,
03:29dapat masuhiin
03:30ng mabuti
03:30ng mga taong ito
03:32alamin kung sino ba
03:33ang biktima
03:33at sino ang criminal,
03:35sino ang perpetrator.
03:36Kaya yun,
03:36yun ang isang ginagawa natin.
03:38Pero sa kabilang panig naman,
03:39kaya din,
03:40malaking bagay din sa Cambodia
03:42itong dialogo na ito
03:43dahil
03:44gusto nila
03:45makamaminig sa atin,
03:46gusto nila matuto
03:47mula sa atin
03:48ang ating mga practices.
03:50Kailangan nga tayo
03:50doon sa US Tip Report,
03:52tayo ay Tier 1.
03:52Tier 1 ang ranking nila.
03:54Ang Cambodia,
03:54parang kundi yung
03:55nagkakamali at Tier 3.
03:57So gusto nila talaga
03:58tayong makausap
03:59upang humingi
04:00ng mga payo sa atin
04:02para maangat nila
04:03ang kanilang ranking.
04:05Yusik,
04:05paano naman po natin
04:06mas mapapalalim
04:07ang ugnayan
04:08ng dalawang bansa
04:09para po maprotektahan
04:11ang mga biktima
04:12ng trafficking?
04:14Malaking bagay
04:15yung nagkakilala
04:16yung mga
04:16mag-counterparts
04:17sa mga ibang
04:18ahensya.
04:19Yung polis sa polis,
04:21DOJ sa DOJ,
04:23fiscal sa fiscal,
04:25social worker
04:25sa social worker.
04:27Dahil pag directo,
04:28direct ang pakipag-usap,
04:30mas mabilis
04:32ang ating mga tugon
04:34kung may mga kababayan
04:35tayo na nabibiktima doon.
04:37At halimbawa,
04:37kung kumarap na naman tayo
04:39ng masalimuot na issue
04:42tulad na nangyari doon
04:43sa mga
04:43surrogate mothers
04:44na Pilipina,
04:46mas madali na
04:47makipag-usap
04:48sa isa't isa.
04:48Yusek,
04:50paano po tinutugunan
04:51ng DOJ
04:52ang lumalalang
04:53kaso ng trafficking
04:53na may kinalaman
04:54naman sa forced labor
04:55sa scam hubs?
04:58Anong mga bagong
04:59estrategiya
05:00o strategies
05:01yung inihanda
05:02para matukoy
05:03at mapigilan
05:03yung ganitong uri
05:04ng krimen?
05:05Malaking bagay talaga
05:07na naging agresibo tayo
05:08noong huling dalawang taon
05:09laban sa mga scam hubs
05:11na ito.
05:11Napakadami tayong
05:12pinasara,
05:13napakadami tayong
05:14kinasuhan,
05:15napakadami tayong
05:16nasalba
05:17ng mga biktima
05:18ng human trafficking
05:19at umabot ito
05:20doon sa kilos
05:22na ating
05:22minamahal na pungulo mismo
05:23kung napinagbawal na
05:25ang mga pogos
05:26months and for all.
05:27Ngayon,
05:28tuloy naman tayo
05:28sa trabaho
05:29kasi hindi naman
05:31ibig sabihin na
05:31dahil pinagbawal na
05:32ay wala na lahat.
05:33But dumali naman
05:34ng konti
05:35dahil nawalan na sila
05:36ng parang kanilang
05:37pahintulot,
05:38nawalan na sila
05:39ng kanilang lisensya
05:41ubang kumilos.
05:44Pero may mga
05:45bagong
05:46strategiya
05:47na kailangan tayong
05:48gamitin
05:49upang mabuwag sila
05:50ng buhan na.
05:53Yusek,
05:53ano po yung mga
05:54natuklasan ng DOJ
05:55tungkol po sa
05:56operasyon ng
05:57scam hubs
05:58na kinabibilangan
05:59ng mga Pilipino
06:00po sa Cambodia?
06:03Paggating doon,
06:04yung usual naman,
06:06na alam naman natin
06:07na yung mga Pilipino
06:08nito ay sila
06:09i-recruit online,
06:10sila ay inaalok
06:11na pumunta doon.
06:13Kaya lang,
06:13isang mga nakikita
06:14natin ngayon
06:15ay medyo mulat
06:17na sila.
06:17Kung dati,
06:18karamihan sa kanila
06:19ay naloloko,
06:21naloloko
06:21para pumunta
06:22sa ibang bansa
06:23at magtabaho
06:23sa call center
06:24para na pumunta
06:25sa scam hub,
06:26ngayon,
06:26parang lumalabas,
06:27madaming mga kababayan
06:28natin,
06:28alam na
06:29ang kanilang
06:30ginagawa.
06:31Kaya nga,
06:32isang panibagong
06:32pagsubok to sa atin
06:34na kung ganyan
06:35ang sitwasyon,
06:36ituturing pa ba natin
06:37silang biktima
06:38ng human trafficking?
06:39Kung sakaling,
06:40kung sakaling
06:41napauwi na naman sila
06:42muli,
06:43bibigyan pa ba sila
06:43ng ayuda?
06:44Or,
06:45ang mas matindi doon,
06:46dapat ba managot na sila
06:47sa mga ibang
06:49mga pagkakamali
06:50na ginagawa nila?
06:52Yusek,
06:52ano po yung mga
06:53ginagawa ng
06:54initiatives ng DOJ
06:55para naman
06:56sa rehabilitation
06:56at reintegration
06:58ng mga biktima
06:58ng human trafficking
06:59na napauwi
07:00mula sa
07:02Cambodia?
07:05Siyempre,
07:05unang-unan,
07:06nandun na yung
07:06ayuda para
07:07mabigyan sila
07:08ng konting buunan
07:08para sa kanina
07:09ng panibagong buhay.
07:11Siyempre,
07:11meron din tayong
07:11mga skills training
07:13or mga ibang
07:14mga rehabilitation
07:15programs
07:16sa ilalim ng
07:16DSWD.
07:18May mga
07:18programa
07:19ang DSWD
07:20na ang layunin
07:23ay bigyan ng
07:23mga skills
07:25ang mga biktima
07:26ng human trafficking
07:26upang mabawasan
07:27ang kanilang
07:28vulnerability
07:28to human trafficking.
07:30Yung mga ibang
07:31pagkakataon
07:31na talagang
07:32napapaganda naman
07:33ang buhay
07:33ng mga biktima
07:34at di na sila
07:36nabibigna mamuli.
07:37Pero isang
07:38aspeto to,
07:39kailangan pa natin
07:39talagang palakasin lalo.
07:42Yusek,
07:43ano naman po
07:44yung mga
07:44kongkretong hakbang
07:45para mapanagot
07:46ang illegal recruiters
07:48at sindikato
07:49sa likod po
07:50ng human trafficking?
07:52Marami talaga tayong
07:53mga kaso
07:54na nasasampang
07:55ngayon.
07:55Pero isang
07:56source
07:58ng mga kaso
07:59na ito
07:59ay yung
07:59pagbantay
08:00ng ating mga kasamahan
08:01sa Bureau of Immigration
08:02sa mga airport.
08:04Sa taon pa lang na ito,
08:05may mga
08:0615 na tayong,
08:0715 cases na tayo
08:08ng mga human trafficking
08:09na mga
08:09na-arresto
08:10mga human trafficker
08:11kasabay
08:12ng mga Pilipinong
08:13sinusubok
08:14iposit
08:14palabas
08:15at sana ito
08:17maging isang
08:17kapityat
08:18na
08:19bawas-bawasan
08:20o huwag na nila
08:21gawin ito.
08:22Bukod doon,
08:23yung mga ibang
08:23mga kaso pa natin
08:24na halimbawa
08:25yung mga kaso
08:26laban sa mga
08:27illegal Togo
08:27kasama doon
08:28yung mga kaso
08:29laban sa Togo
08:30sa Bandban
08:30wala sa Bandban
08:32tsaka sa Pora
08:32na madami
08:34na dawit
08:34at isa pa yung
08:35halimbawa
08:36na ating mga
08:38agresibong kilos
08:39upang
08:40upang maging
08:41disincentive
08:42o maging
08:43deterrent
08:43sa Human Trafficking.
08:46Youseg,
08:46syempre po,
08:47we want
08:47a whole-of-nation
08:48approach
08:49pagdating sa
08:50pag-resolve
08:50ng ganitong
08:51problema.
08:52Paano po
08:53makakatulong
08:53ang publiko
08:54para matukoy
08:55ang mga
08:56posibleng
08:56recruiter
08:57or trafficking
08:57schemes
08:58online?
09:00Unong-unin
09:01yun,
09:01awareness
09:01talaga.
09:02Kasi
09:03kahit na
09:04talagang
09:05masigasig
09:06ang iyakat
09:06at ang mga
09:07member agencies
09:07na paalamin
09:08ang ganitong
09:09problema
09:10sa taong
09:11bayan
09:11at kahit na
09:12madami tayong
09:13mga
09:13partners
09:13sa media
09:14tulad ninyo
09:14na talagang
09:15lagi
09:15nag-reach
09:15out
09:16sa amin
09:16upang
09:16bigyan
09:16kami
09:17ng
09:17pagkakataon
09:18masabi
09:18sa mga
09:19tao
09:19na to
09:19talagang
09:20kailangan
09:21pa rin
09:21ng awareness
09:22hindi
09:22talaga
09:23tayo
09:23na
09:24hindi
09:24nawawala
09:25ang ating
09:26pangangailangan
09:26sa awareness
09:27so maganda
09:28na maging
09:28bukas
09:29maging
09:29mulat
09:30maging
09:30maalam
09:31mga
09:31mga
09:31tao
09:31sa
09:32kasamaan
09:33ng
09:33human
09:33trafficking
09:34tapos
09:34kung may
09:34mga
09:35mabilitaan
09:36naman
09:36kayo
09:36mga
09:37nabibiktaman
09:37ng
09:37human
09:38trafficking
09:38or kung
09:38kayo
09:39mismo
09:39ay sinubukan
09:40i-recruit
09:40nasa isang
09:41kadudadudang
09:42trabaho
09:43ay mag-report
09:44kayo sa amin
09:45may hotline
09:46ng IAC
09:46at yung 1343
09:47pwede kayo
09:48tumawag
09:49dito
09:49at yung mga
09:49ibang
09:49mga
09:50ahensya
09:50naman
09:50CWC
09:52tulad ng
09:53polis
09:53ay may
09:54kanya-kanya
09:54mga hotline
09:55Yusik
09:56may plano
09:56po ba
09:57ang DOJ
09:57na magsagawa
09:58ng kaparehong
09:59dialogo
10:00sa ibang
10:00ASEAN
10:01countries
10:01yes
10:03itong
10:04dialogo
10:05ay nangyari
10:06na
10:06nung
10:06kuling
10:07taon
10:07may
10:08dialog
10:08tayo
10:08sa
10:09Thailand
10:09malaking
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10:12mga
10:12bilateral
10:13talks
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10:14directa
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10:15dun sa
10:15mga
10:15counterparts
10:16natin
10:17sa mga
10:18kapid
10:18bahay
10:19natin
10:19so
10:20bukod
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10:22siguro
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10:23baka
10:23magkaroon
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10:24ng
10:24dial
10:24sa
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10:25civilian
10:25consumers
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10:27at
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10:29dun sa
10:29mga
10:29dial
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10:30na tayong
10:31annual
10:31activity
10:32sa
10:32iyakat
10:32kung saan
10:33iniimbitan
10:34natin
10:34yung mga
10:34iba-ibang
10:35mga
10:35iyakat
10:37counterparts
10:37sa region
10:38sa isang
10:38mas
10:45mga
10:45October
10:45or
10:45November
10:46ay may
10:46plano
10:46kami
10:47muli
10:47imbitan
10:47ang mga
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10:48namin
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10:49sama-sama
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10:51at
10:52ibahagi
10:53sa isa't isa
10:54ang aming
10:55mga
10:55kamenasan
10:56laban sa
10:56human
10:57trafficking
10:57Yusek
10:59siguro po
11:00paano
11:00ninyo
11:01masisiguro
11:01na magtatagumpay
11:02ang mga
11:03ganitong
11:03uri
11:03ng
11:04regional
11:04collaboration
11:05laban
11:05sa
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11:06trafficking
11:06dapat
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11:18ituloy lang
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11:25sharing
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11:30tingin namin
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11:32na talagang
11:33malubos-lubos
11:35ang mga
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11:36ng ganitong
11:37mga
11:37partnership
11:38Yusek
11:39mensahe nyo
11:40na lang po
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11:44lalo na po
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11:49tuloy lang
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11:58heavy-up
11:58ng mga
11:58Pilipino
11:59na hindi
11:59dumadaan
12:00sa takdang
12:01proseso
12:01upang
12:01magtrabaho
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12:02isang
12:03isang
12:03magandang
12:03halimbawa
12:04na
12:04itong
12:04scam
12:05hub
12:05dito
12:05sa
12:05Cambodia
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12:06sa
12:06mga
12:06ibang
12:07lugar
12:07dito
12:07sa
12:07Southeast
12:09Asia
12:09yung
12:10mga
12:10ibang
12:10Pilipino
12:11mukhang
12:12alam
12:12na nga
12:12nila
12:13yung
12:13ginagawa
12:13nila
12:14sana
12:14naman
12:15magdalawang
12:16isip
12:16na
12:16kayo
12:16dahil
12:17baka
12:19naman
12:19sa susunod
12:21na
12:21pagkakato
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12:23sa
12:23peligro
12:24ay
12:24hindi
12:24lang
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12:25na
12:25kayo
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12:26hindi
12:26na
12:26magbago
12:32na
12:32magbago
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12:33ang
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12:33ng
12:34pamalan
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12:37hindi
12:38lang
12:38kayo
12:38simple
12:38victim
12:39ngunit
12:39may
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12:40kayo
12:40din
12:40yung
12:41recruiter
12:41o
12:41kayo
12:41din
12:42yung
12:42mga
12:42facilitator
12:42ng
12:42human
12:43trafficking
12:43Maraming
12:45salamat
12:45po
12:46sa inyong
12:46oras
12:46DOJ
12:47Undersecretary
12:48Nicholas
12:48Felix
12:49T
12:49USEC
12:50in
12:50charge
12:50ng
12:50Interagency
12:51Council
12:51Against
12:52Trafficking
12:52Thank
12:54you
12:54Thank you
12:54ASEC
12:55Thank you
12:55Director
12:55Thank you