Bernie Moreno Asks OpenAI CEO Sam Altman About Protecting Children When Using Platforms

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During a Senate Commerce Committee hearing last week, Sen. Bernie Moreno (R-OH) spoke to OpenAI CEO Sam Altman about protections for children.

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00:00The senior senator from Ohio. Thank you Chairman Sheehy. Make sure Senator Cruz heard that one.

00:09So first of all thank you for being here and taking the time. If I could just real

00:16quickly just confirm that I've heard what you said pretty unanimously which is we need

00:21dramatically more power generation in this country. Is that correct? All right so Dr.

00:30Su you you just recently did a partnership with TSMC to manufacture your

00:35chips here in America. Thank you. I think it's a little bit long overdue. I wish

00:38you had we had done more of that earlier. Are those semiconductor fabs high energy

00:46users? Thank you Senator. We are very pleased with our efforts together with

00:53the government on bringing more manufacturing back to the United States.

00:56To your question certainly semiconductor manufacturing of plants are high

01:01energy users and we do need more power for both manufacturing as well as for

01:05data centers as you mentioned. And without chips this just doesn't work like if we

01:09don't have the highest performance chips made here in the United States this is

01:13not going to happen here correct? We absolutely need the highest performing

01:16chips and we also need the entire ecosystem for chip manufacturing. So

01:21wafers are one piece but there are many other pieces as well. And are those chips

01:25powered by solar power and windmills? Today they're not but I think there are

01:31opportunities to certainly. So so do you think it's outrageous that last year because

01:36of the policies of the Biden administration that 90 percent of new power

01:40generation in this country was windmills and solar panels and we absolutely

01:44kneecapped American energy. We have a thousand years of natural gas sitting in

01:49Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia and yet 90 percent of power generation in this

01:55country last year was solar panels and windmills. Does that make this country more

02:00competitive or less competitive? Anybody can jump into that one that wants to answer that.

02:05Let me say two things. One you're right we need more electricity. I think our

02:13industry it's worth remembering is only going to account for 15 percent of the

02:17total additional electricity the country is going to need. We are going to need

02:22electricity from a variety of sources. Today in the United States 56 percent of

02:27our electricity comes from carbon. 44 percent comes from carbon free energy

02:32meaning nuclear wind or solar. We need a broad based approach and we need a

02:37diversity. But again 90 percent was energy that's not affordable it's not

02:43abundant and it's not reliable. Let me just shift gears. Mr. Altman thank you for

02:48first of all creating your platform in an open basis and agreeing to stick to the

02:53principles of nonprofit status. I think that's very important. Do you think that

02:58the internet age did a good job between the beginning of the 90s through the

03:052000s of protecting children? I would say not particularly. Yeah and you're a new

03:11father correct? Yes. Congratulations. Thank you very much. He's doing well? He is. It's the most

03:15amazing thing ever. Yeah I don't think you want your best your child's best

03:18friend to be an AI bot. I do not. So what can we do? How can we work together to

03:23protect children? We've talked a lot about some of the things we're doing here.

03:28We're trying to learn the lessons of previous generation and you know that's

03:32kind of the way it goes. You people make mistakes and you do it better next time.

03:35One thing we say a lot internally is we want to treat our adult users like adults.

03:39We want to give them a lot of flexibility. We want to let them use the

03:43service with a lot of freedom and for children there needs to be a much higher

03:47level of protection which means the service won't do things that they might want.

03:51Now we're still early so sometimes people say oh you're being too strict on the

03:56rules and it's just we can't perfectly like tell this but if we could draw a

03:59line and if we knew for sure when a user was a child or an adult we would allow

04:02adults to be much more permissive and we'd have tighter tighter rules for

04:05children. So I think what I would ask is if you could have your team commit to

04:10having your teams work with our teams to make certain that we put together the

04:14right framework early on I think is the best way we can move forward because we

04:18don't want to over-regulate but we can't repeat the mistakes of the internet and

04:23social media era where children got harmed. We'd be delighted to work with you.

04:27Okay thank you. It's super important. Thank you. Can I say one more thing about what

04:29you said this idea of AI and social relationships I think this is a new

04:34thing that we need to pay a lot of attention to people are relying on AI more

04:39and more for life advice sort of emotional support that kind of thing it's it's a

04:44newer thing in recent months but I and I don't think it's all bad but I think we

04:49have to like understand it and watch it very carefully. Thank you and thank you

04:53for that commitment. It's very appreciated to talk to your team already good people.

04:56Great. Mr. Intendore real quickly can you talk about the intersection between the

05:01importance of a robust stable coin ecosystem here in America and how that

05:06has a future with payments and how AI will factor into that because I don't think

05:11people see how this fits into the broader puzzle. So thank you for the

05:16question and we did start out as a crypto based company hobby that kind of got away

05:24from us a little bit. Look I think that stable coins crypto AI they share certain

05:32DNA in common which is that they are attempts to build into a future where new

05:40technology will make things better for society and there is a huge potential

05:45for us to use stable coins crypto and AI in a combination for for better outcomes.

05:52All right thank you and that was the quickest coup since 1959.

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