Wuthering Waves Zani-Phoebe rotation damage, moves in liberation pt3

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#wutheringwaves #gacha #zani-peeb  2025-05-05 Wuthering Waves Zani powercreep Part 3  Credit: Aznvasions

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00:00so yeah that's this is the point i'm trying to make of the reason why i leave the baseline

00:12rotation to teach simple is the simple rotation works it's very hard to screw up and it's very

00:21hard to lose damage you can run things that are theoretically better but they are barely better

00:27but if you screw up the so-called better rotations you will lose a shit ton of damage

00:33so as long as you know what you're doing do what you want but if you don't know what you're doing

00:43don't just blindly pick up a rotation because somebody says it's better on zany's liberation

00:49phase was saint tontas wrong um

00:54i would say he was right and wrong so his point of view was frame data doesn't matter because like

01:03you just unga bunga and so long as you get the moves out that's fine

01:08if you don't really care about your damage yes that's what i would recommend because it's pretty

01:17consistent and it's barely behind optimized damage for her and it's easy to learn so my emphasis

01:25on it is it's easy to learn if you actually care about your damage you would adapt her on field

01:31rotation based off of what the enemy is doing and not just mash mouse one but i don't expect the

01:37average player to adapt your zany quick swap rotations to whatever the hell the enemy is doing

01:43at that given moment to min max your damage because one it's completely unnecessary we've seen how

01:49strong zany is and two even if you did there isn't any piece of content in the game that requires you

01:58to do so now whether or not frame data is relevant i deem it relevant because it determines what kind of

02:07quick swaps are even possible i care about what are the possible paths i can take when i choose to put

02:18characters together on a team so i know this move takes two and a half seconds to cast it's actually

02:252.6 because i know it takes 2.6 seconds to cast off the top of my head i know i might not know the exact

02:34amount of time all other moves in the game that i might want to fit in nightfall is but what i do

02:40know is this is the slowest move in the entire game because i have cheated many characters up to

02:47this point and i have never cheated a move that takes 2.6 seconds to cast thus i know that every

02:55single quick swap in the game that i would ever want to try will work in this moves cast window i don't

03:04need to test anything because i already know this is the slowest move in the game based off of this data

03:12and thus everything will fit that's where i deem frame data is useful now do i care about

03:20is there a rotation 12 and a half seconds versus 13 seconds versus 12 seconds versus 11 and a half i really

03:29don't care especially because a lot of times quick swap can skew this by certain things like being

03:34cancelled or how well you can overlap move sets if the frame data is good enough i don't need it to

03:41be perfect but if it's good enough then i have a pretty good idea on how long a unit is supposed to

03:46take but where i do care about frame data is when i look at this move by itself i want to know

03:52what can i put inside of this move that's where i deem frame data is important trying to

03:59like perfectly sheet this i don't deem that important if you just have roughly accurate frame

04:08data that's within like a quarter second so you can probably just eyeball it with your eyes instead of

04:17literally pulling up frame by frame and software you can just look at a playback recording and

04:23that's probably good enough and you'll notice when i make full team recordings this is where i just

04:28don't even give a shit like i'm not going to input frame data for a full team rotation because it just

04:35becomes a mess because then you have to account for whose cast is overlapping with who else's cast

04:40therefore that allows me to negate the cast duration of xyz's characters move during character abc

04:47cast instead that that's why you see me here of i don't put any kind of frame data for full teams

04:55i do have a full team rotation time but the thing is this time is not calculated off of frame data

05:02those times are calculated off of me putting the team together

05:08actually learning to play the team until i'm good at it

05:13and then running the team with proof

05:21that this was a 25 second rotation and then i will sheet it

05:28as that because i know where i made my mistakes but this is pretty close

05:35right like this is literally one second off

05:38and i mean i don't know if you can blame me for trying to put up with wolves because i'm pretty

05:46sure i dodged

05:47here

05:50did i dodge here let me see

05:59no i actually i don't think i dodged on this run

06:07yeah i got very very lucky with that timing there so i actually didn't have to dodge

06:17but yeah i actually played the 25 second rotation so that's how i come up with the times

06:25when i put these in

06:28these of course have frame data because i need them to determine what can be used as a quick swap window

06:37but that's about it

06:41do you think you're gonna be playing zenni after done testing like you do with carlotta

06:46oh yes um i would say right now zenni is pretty much assuming if you have phoebe

06:52she is one of the comfiest dps's in the game

06:58because you don't need her optimal damage

07:02which is literally what this rotation is trying to prove of you don't need the skill 3

07:06you don't need to fit in extra swaps during nightfall unless you're playing rover because

07:12the rover has big damage loss on the team um

07:16but generally good enough is good enough and this means that you can just

07:23easily clear content like she has good horizontal and vertical hitbox

07:29which is the reason why she shits on sentry and the current rotation even though it flies actually

07:35pretty high up chameleon struggles to hit it in red form i'll let you know

07:38as i was trying and yao can miss but zenni has no problems hitting it while it's flying

07:44uh and in wewa her swings are wide enough she can clear entire waves

07:49so we now have a dps that is top tier in both toa and wewa again and it's pretty rare for us to get

07:59that because as we know brant has a problem with his anchor in wewa

08:05on because it's weight based content so the anchor will deal damage wherever it falls

08:12once upon a time you could drag the hitbox of the anchor

08:15and then that got patched so you can't rely on dragging the hitbox anymore to the new set of spawns

08:21thus now brant can be very hit and miss

08:24in wewa

08:27you

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