Journalist: American pope was unexpected

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00:00Absolutely, and I'm sure Donald Trump is absolutely thrilled that this has now happened.

00:04He said he's really looking forward to meeting him.

00:07Yes, I did wonder if Donald Trump was going to sort of take credit for this.

00:11I still wouldn't be surprised, but he's already tweeted about it, obviously.

00:17He said it is such an honour to realise that he is the first American Pope,

00:22and he looks forward to meeting Pope Leo XIV, and it will be a very meaningful moment.

00:26So, yeah, I do think no one thought there would be an American Pope,

00:32because obviously as a country it can be sort of quite moved towards more secular.

00:38But no, I think it's actually very interesting.

00:41It feels a bit modern.

00:43It feels a bit more modern, although the not looking at allowing women to be ordained doesn't feel modern.

00:50But, as I said, I do feel the balance between progressive and conservative, it evolves over time.

00:56It feels a bit more modern.

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