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Prezes Microsoftu: „Chcemy, by Europa wiedziała, że może na nas liczyć”
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5/12/2025
Prezes Microsoftu: „Chcemy, by Europa wiedziała, że może na nas liczyć”
„Chcemy, żeby Europa wiedziała, że może na nas liczyć” – powiedział Angeli Barnes prezes Microsoftu Brad Smith w najnowszym odcinku The Big Question.
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00:00
We want to be a bridge across the Atlantic.
00:02
They're not built on wheels.
00:04
They're not going anywhere.
00:05
And we want our European customers to know
00:07
that they can count on Microsoft.
00:15
Welcome to The Big Question,
00:18
a series from Euronews where we speak
00:19
to some of the most influential people
00:22
in the world of business.
00:24
And today we're joined by Brad Smith,
00:27
the Vice Chair and President of Microsoft.
00:30
Brad, it's an absolute pleasure
00:31
to have you with us on the show.
00:33
Thank you very much for joining us.
00:35
Thank you for having me.
00:36
You've recently announced Microsoft's
00:38
five digital commitments to Europe.
00:42
So first of all, can you just tell us about those?
00:44
Our main point is we want Europe to know
00:47
and we want our European customers to know
00:49
that they can count on us.
00:51
They can count on Microsoft.
00:53
We want and we even think we need
00:55
to be a force for, say, digital stability
00:58
in a time of geopolitical volatility.
01:02
So for us, it means protecting cybersecurity,
01:05
protecting privacy,
01:06
ensuring Europe's digital resilience,
01:09
continuing to build out our infrastructure,
01:11
our data centers across Europe,
01:13
and ensuring that they help boost
01:15
European competitiveness
01:16
across every part of the economy.
01:18
Why is Europe so important
01:20
to Microsoft's business plan?
01:23
I don't think Microsoft would be
01:25
the global success it is today
01:27
without our long-standing presence in Europe.
01:30
My first job at the company was in 1993,
01:33
based in Paris,
01:34
and the truth is it's more than a quarter
01:37
of our global business.
01:39
The European countries are so important.
01:41
There's so much innovation that happens here.
01:43
I just want to pick up
01:51
on the AI and cloud ecosystem point
01:54
that's in the digital commitments to Europe.
01:56
How can the cloud and AI infrastructure
01:58
help Europe's economic competitiveness?
02:01
Well, when you think about Europe's strength
02:04
as an economy,
02:05
one of the things that we've always appreciated
02:07
is what we think of as great domain expertise.
02:10
pharmaceuticals or machine tools
02:13
or chemicals or automobiles
02:15
or many other things,
02:17
European companies are leaders.
02:19
But if you look to the future,
02:21
it will take more digital technology,
02:23
it will take more cloud services,
02:25
it will take more AI
02:26
to keep all of these industries
02:28
at the forefront of global competitiveness.
02:31
And that's where our investments across Europe,
02:34
we believe, are quite important.
02:36
Do you think giant companies
02:37
like Microsoft, of course,
02:38
have a duty to do something
02:40
to help Europe's struggling competitiveness?
02:42
I think that's why we're in business.
02:45
It is to provide technology
02:46
that will make others,
02:48
individuals and organizations,
02:51
more successful.
02:52
And in the world of business,
02:54
that means boosting productivity growth,
02:56
but it also means driving innovation.
02:58
And that's where AI in particular,
03:00
I think is, as we like to say,
03:02
the next great general purpose technology,
03:04
like electricity,
03:06
it will reshape every part of the economy.
03:08
And that is our responsibility,
03:10
I think, to serve as a resource
03:13
for every part of Europe.
03:15
And that's why we are expanding
03:18
our infrastructure across Europe.
03:20
Yes, indeed.
03:20
And you're planning to expand
03:21
European data center capacity
03:23
by 40% over the next two years
03:26
in 16 countries.
03:27
How many jobs can we expect that to create?
03:30
As we build these data centers,
03:32
and we will have more than 200
03:34
in these 16 countries by 2027.
03:38
You know, that creates a huge number of jobs
03:40
in skilled labor, in construction,
03:43
the whole supply chain,
03:44
everything that goes into
03:45
all of this infrastructure.
03:47
But what really matters
03:48
is I think more than that,
03:50
it's the multiplier effect.
03:52
It's what our customers are able to do
03:55
with this technology.
03:57
This is really designed
03:58
to help fuel their growth.
04:00
It is, I think, an engine of growth
04:02
for what we like to describe
04:04
as an AI economy,
04:05
the economies of the world
04:07
in an AI era.
04:08
And Brad,
04:09
as you expand in these other areas,
04:12
you're also saying
04:13
you will uphold Europe's digital resilience
04:15
even when there's geopolitical volatility.
04:17
Should Europe be relying more
04:19
on European homegrown companies
04:21
do you think to build its resilience?
04:23
Well, I think that Europe will want
04:25
a variety of resources
04:27
on which to rely.
04:29
And European governments
04:30
use more taxpayer money
04:32
to invest in creating
04:34
or subsidizing homegrown alternatives.
04:36
That's their decision to make.
04:37
We think we have a role to play as well.
04:40
And we'll collaborate with governments
04:42
regardless of where they invest.
04:44
The Draghi report itself
04:46
really called out the importance
04:48
and the opportunity
04:49
of also using this American technology.
04:52
And by building it here,
04:54
I always like to say
04:55
these are huge facilities.
04:57
They're not built on wheels.
04:59
They're not going anywhere.
05:01
They will be regulated by local laws,
05:03
local regulations.
05:04
We have to constantly earn
05:06
the license to grow, if you will.
05:09
And we're committed to doing that.
05:11
Brad, some fear that the Trump administration
05:15
could compel companies like Microsoft
05:17
to provide access
05:18
to sensitive European data.
05:20
And I know you have pledged
05:22
to take legal action
05:23
if governments try to seize EU data.
05:26
Is that going to be a tough one
05:28
to balance, though?
05:30
I actually don't think it will be.
05:32
I know that there is a concern
05:33
when I have gone to the White House,
05:35
as I have,
05:36
and I've shared with them
05:39
the fact that this is a concern in Europe.
05:41
Every single person I've talked to
05:43
has said,
05:44
we've never even heard of that idea.
05:46
But we understand
05:47
that we need to address it.
05:50
And we have.
05:51
And that's why we've said
05:52
we are going to put into our contracts
05:55
with European national governments
05:56
and with the European Commission
05:58
a contractual obligation
06:00
so that if we ever received
06:02
an order anywhere in the world
06:03
that would cause us
06:05
or try to force us
06:06
to suspend operations,
06:08
say, in Europe,
06:08
we would go to court to contest it.
06:11
I have every confidence
06:13
that we would prevail in court.
06:15
But we've also said
06:16
that if we did not,
06:18
we'll have a backup group
06:20
of suppliers,
06:22
partners here in Europe.
06:23
We'll have our code,
06:24
our software code
06:25
and our source code
06:26
stored in a secure repository
06:28
in Switzerland.
06:29
Basically,
06:30
we want to allay people's concerns.
06:33
I think we have a solution
06:34
that does that.
06:34
The EU says
06:36
that targeting
06:37
American tech companies
06:38
is one of the cards
06:40
that it could play
06:41
in retaliation
06:41
to Donald Trump's tariffs.
06:43
How would you respond to that?
06:45
Well,
06:46
we want to be a bridge
06:47
across the Atlantic.
06:49
I think business
06:50
can and should be a bridge
06:53
across the Atlantic.
06:55
But at the end of the day,
06:56
governments need
06:56
to make their own decisions.
06:57
And that will be true
06:59
in Europe
06:59
as well as the United States.
07:01
We will take whatever comes
07:02
and we'll help
07:03
our customers adapt
07:04
and will adapt.
07:06
But mostly,
07:07
I want us to be
07:09
a voice of reason,
07:11
a voice that encourages
07:12
the ties across the Atlantic
07:15
that have been indispensable
07:17
for eight decades now,
07:19
since the end
07:20
of the Second World War,
07:22
to prevail,
07:23
to use this
07:24
as an opportunity
07:25
for all of us
07:26
in a way to step back
07:27
and then recommit.
07:29
Let's address the issues
07:30
that bother people
07:31
on either side
07:33
of the Atlantic.
07:34
But let's not forget
07:35
how important
07:36
these ties are,
07:37
including for business.
07:39
Indeed.
07:40
Well, Brad Smith,
07:40
thank you ever so much
07:42
for sharing your insights
07:43
with us.
07:43
It's been an absolute pleasure
07:44
to have you on
07:45
The Big Question.
07:46
Well, thank you.
07:47
It is a big question.
07:47
It really is.
07:49
Thank you very much.
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