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Mike Rounds Asks DoD Nom: Do You Support Banning ‘To Kill A Mockingbird’ In Military Schools_
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5/7/2025
During a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on Tuesday, Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD) questioned Anthony J. Tata, nominee to be Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness, about the teaching of ‘To Kill A Mockingbird’ in military schools.
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Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, to both of you, thank you for your
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continued service to our country. Ms. Sutton, look at air, land, sea, space, cyberspace. The next
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real conflicts that we're going to see will probably start with cyberspace activity.
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If you are confirmed, what will your priorities be as the Assistant Secretary of Defense for
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cyber policy? Senator, thank you for the kind introduction this morning and for your leadership
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over the years on making sure that the department is appropriately postured for cyber and AI.
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As you mentioned, the cyber domain is continuing to evolve, and the one constant that I've seen
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in being involved in this domain for over two decades is that the rate of change is exponential.
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My top priority, if confirmed in this role, will be to address this change with speed and agility
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in the department. As you're well aware, in 2018, there was a series of activities that enabled
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the offensive posture that the department is undergoing today, both establishment by President
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Trump of NSPM 13, the process to do cyber operations, as well as this committee's definition
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of traditional military authorities for cyber. I believe we're at a point where we need to
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reevaluate those and make sure that we're postured to be able to respond to the increasing speed
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of cyber attacks and that we are able to address the incoming impacts of AI. To do that, my second
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and third priorities will be to make sure that we have the talent that we need to understand this
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dynamic environment and that we have the technologies and we're leveraging them quickly to
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respond to challenges like AI.
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After having worked with you directly for about four years and the amount of knowledge that
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you have in this, I truly can't think of anyone who is more qualified for the position that
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you have been nominated for and I look forward to not only supporting but helping you to get
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in and to get to work as soon as possible. Clearly, we need to be moving forward as quickly
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as possible with regard to our cyber capabilities both offensively and defensively and I thank you
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for stepping forward once again. Thank you.
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Mr. Tate, part of the opportunity that we have here is to ask questions regarding items of not
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only the regular Army but also the National Guard. And I want to ask you a question about that but I
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also, in listening to your comments earlier, I wanted to give you an opportunity to respond.
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I think the ranking member asked a very specific question regarding whether or not you felt that it
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would be necessary or would you consider banning to kill a mockingbird. And I know that as we work our way
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through these processes, sometimes it catches a person off guard. I wanted to give you an opportunity.
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I think it was a pretty specific question by the ranking member. And I think if you are comfortable
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with your answer, that's fine. But I think that will become the headline of the day will be that you
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did not specifically respond to that. I want to give you an opportunity to quell that if you would like.
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Would you like to make anything on that? Absolutely. I read To Kill a Mockingbird in high school and I see no issue
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with To Kill a Mockingbird in schools. I'm not confirmed. I'm not in the position. I didn't make the decision.
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But certainly, if confirmed, I look forward to reviewing that and making sure that our students have access to a wide variety of
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materials that inform their learning. Thank you. I just wanted to give you that opportunity to perhaps clarify that answer.
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So, thank you. It's a classic and, you know, I read it and my belief is that we should have To Kill a Mockingbird in schools.
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Thank you. Let me talk about the National Guard for just a second. Given the National Guard's increased activity for both domestic
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and overseas missions, would you commit to fully funding their annual training requirements, even if it means diverting
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some resources from other locations? Senator, I think Reserve and National Guard training is paramount. I was executive
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officer, Vice Chief Dick Cody, 0405, when we were deploying National Guard and Reserve to and from Operation Iraqi and Enduring Freedom. We were
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moving some 350,000 troops either into combat or out of combat or training them. So, having trained
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and ready forces is paramount and certainly fully funding that training is part of being ready.
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Fair to say that right now we really can't go to war unless we also enlist and engage our National Guard today.
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I think that's an absolutely accurate statement. National Guard provides the combat support capability.
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The reserve provides that critical logistic capability. The total force is what makes us so lethal.
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Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Thank you, Senator.
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