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Mark Warner: Mike Waltz Confirmation Hearing For UN Will Be 'Brutal', Says Hegseth 'Should Be Gone'
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5/5/2025
On CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday, Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) spoke about President Trump's cabinet.
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I don't know how anybody could do these two big jobs, and they're frankly very different.
00:06
One is actually trying to diplomatically work with friends and adversaries around the world.
00:12
Unfortunately, the number of adversaries has gone up dramatically as Trump's approach has been so awful to our allies.
00:19
The other, our national security advisor, has really grown into a major job.
00:23
Maybe slimming down some of that portfolio could make sense,
00:27
but I don't see how any individual could do both of those.
00:30
And then you add the other fact, Jake, that he's still overseeing the remnants of what used to be American soft power for 70 years, USAID.
00:39
And even for a Marco Rubio, I think it's too much.
00:42
But you think well of him. You think that he's an able guy.
00:45
Listen, I've worked very well with him for years.
00:47
I've been disappointed by some of the actions he's taken as secretary and this kind of kowtowing to Trump.
00:54
As a matter of fact, it appeared that cabinet meeting earlier this week where everyone went around and basically paid kudos to the great leader.
01:03
It was something that, frankly, I would have expected out of North Korea, maybe not out of a cabinet meeting in America.
01:09
Secretary Rubio's new job comes after President Trump ousted Mike Waltz from the National Security Advisor position.
01:15
Now the Senate is going to need to vote on whether he can serve as the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.
01:22
This is after he shared some sensitive information on sensitive intelligence.
01:28
On Signal, not to mention accidentally adding a reporter, Jeff Goldberg, to that Signal chat.
01:33
Do you have faith in him to be U.N. ambassador?
01:36
I think it will be a brutal confirmation hearing.
01:41
Walt's at least acknowledged a bit of a mistake.
01:43
I think he's going to have tough questions, not only from Democrats, but from Republicans.
01:48
But the guy that should be gone is Pete Exeth, who is so far beyond his abilities,
01:53
who I've challenged repeatedly.
01:56
Come down to Norfolk, Virginia, and explain to the friends of the sailors who are on the Truman.
02:02
That was where the Truman was the aircraft carrier, the jets were launched that went against the Hooties.
02:07
And try to explain how that information getting out wouldn't have put their loved ones in harm's way.
02:12
Hegs, that said Joe, but also candidly, as vice chair of the Intelligence Committee, former chair,
02:18
Tulsi Gabbard, who I don't think there's a day that goes by, she is the director of national intelligence,
02:22
isn't out literally trashing the intelligence workforce.
02:27
So you've got our two major areas of protecting our country, the Defense Department,
02:32
and all of our intelligence community.
02:34
There's not a day that goes by that I don't hear people's morale is plummeting
02:38
because their lack of confidence in these leaders.
02:40
Speaking of these constituents of yours, representing Virginia, where so many government officials and employees work,
02:46
the Washington Post is reporting that the CIA is set to cut 1,200 positions,
02:52
and thousands of more jobs will be eliminated across other intelligence agencies.
02:55
I know they live in Virginia.
02:57
What are Republican senators telling you privately about this deterioration of the workforce in the intelligence community?
03:07
Well, I raise this virtually every meeting, oftentimes in private because we're in classified settings.
03:14
And I hear a lot of, you know, gosh, Mark, keep talking about this.
03:17
Yes, this is important.
03:19
I'm basically imploring my Republican colleagues, at least go out and say you have faith in our intelligence workforce.
03:26
With this kind of approach, you know, and Jake, it costs about $340,000 to train a CIA officer,
03:33
get a clearance, go through the training process, when we are going to be laying off or accritting, you know,
03:41
a lot of these younger members, who in their right mind is going to want to go be a CIA officer,
03:48
go work for the NSA where we do cryptography?
03:51
You know, they can all go make much more money in the tech world,
03:54
but we are undermining what I think would be a potential next generation of workers in the intelligence domain.
04:01
And for that matter, across the federal government,
04:04
we're going to be paying the price for this first 100 days plus of rapid cuts, I think literally for years.
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