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Weber, del PPE, pide liderazgo europeo a medida que Estados Unidos abdica del papel global
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2/5/2025
Weber, del PPE, pide liderazgo europeo a medida que Estados Unidos abdica del papel global
El presidente del principal partido de centroderecha de la UE afirmó en 'Euronews' que es hora de que Europa dé un paso adelante.
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00:00
Siguiente, el gobierno de la Secretaría de Venezuela,
00:08
Europa su mayoranteante política, el Partido Central Europeo Europeo
00:13
tiene que interpretar en un partido populismo y en el Partido del Pato de Venezuela.
00:18
El presidente Manfred Weber ha ocurriendo con esta-apa congresión, en Valencia, España.
00:25
Gracias por estar con nosotros en este congresista en Valencia.
00:32
¿Qué es la nueva mensaje a los votos?
00:35
Porque todo se cambia en este mundo.
00:38
Estamos viviendo en un mundo de Trumps y Orbán.
00:41
¿Tienes una nueva narrativa, una nueva mensaje?
00:44
Nosotros mensajes son escuchar a la gente, liderar y también liderar.
00:51
Que nos solucionemos los problemas.
00:52
Y usted dice que la gente se siente confundida, la gente se siente incertidumbre en su desarrollo.
00:57
La gente se siente lo que está haciendo, lo que está haciendo, lo que está haciendo, lo que está entregando todos los días en incertidumbre.
01:03
Y en este momento de tiempo, nuestro concepto de ser concreto en nuestras promesas es fundamental.
01:09
Déjame recordarles que nuestros principales promesas en la última campaña
01:12
fueron la cuestión de competitividad y la seguridad económica.
01:15
Fue una mención de seguridad, especialmente de defensa,
01:20
de protegerlos contra el brutal dictadito de Putin.
01:25
Y la democracia, sobre la ley de la ley, sobre la estructura de la Unión Europea.
01:30
Y soy muy orgullo de que a partir de la TISA, la mayor oposición de la República, el Viktor Orbán,
01:35
Join the EPP group is part of our family and also Donald Tusk showed in Poland that we are the party of rule of law, of democracy in Europe.
01:43
These are the three pillars for our mandate and there European People's Party is now working hard to deliver on these issues.
01:49
So you mentioned rule of law and pro-European-ness, but do you think this message will resonate today with the voters?
01:57
Well, the precondition for everything is delivering on content, living conditions for our people.
02:02
You know, have economic growth, jobs for especially the young generation, not accepting first and second class Europeans in Europe.
02:10
You know, some parts of Europe don't feel equally treated than other parts of Europe and that has to stop.
02:16
So these kind of things, there we have to deliver finally.
02:19
Also now the main challenge of building up a European pillar of defense, there we have to deliver now and work on this.
02:26
But probably you're right because the main competitor for me for the next upcoming years is not anymore the center-left,
02:36
where I would hope that socialists are becoming again the Workers' Party of Europe, you know, close to the car manufacturers and so on,
02:44
which are not yet the case in this moment of time.
02:46
So the main competitor for us for the next years are the populists and the extremists.
02:52
We are facing an authoritarian wave all over the world and it is also coming and arriving in Europe.
02:59
And that's why the biggest job for us as the biggest party of Europe, as the center-right party, as EPP,
03:04
is to protect our way of life, to protect our democracy in the European Union.
03:10
And there Valencia is the starting point for creating such a vision on the long run.
03:14
That's very interesting that you say that you have to fight populist instead of, let's say, the middle ground of the politics.
03:21
But how you will get out the message?
03:24
Because people consider EPP people like bureaucrats in Brussels, isn't it?
03:30
So you have to be more loud, maybe.
03:32
What we have to do is to have again a convincing narrative, a convincing story,
03:38
a convincing understanding about where is the future of our society.
03:42
For example, on the question of the defence union, we speak currently about common procurement.
03:48
But Adenauer, de Gasperi and Schumann, they spoke about lasting peace in Europe, forgiveness after the Second World War.
03:55
So that was the level of political discussions.
03:57
Or when we speak about economy, it's not so much only about start-ups and about the number of jobs we create.
04:02
That's important, but, you know, social market economy was the answer towards communism and social market economy won against communism.
04:12
And today our market must win against authoritarian concept of China.
04:18
Is China providing more economic growth or is our European model providing more social justice and economic growth?
04:25
So this is the level of discussion we have in front of us.
04:28
And I want to see EPP discussing this with a perspective, with a future orientation.
04:33
And in a world where America is not anymore the stable anchor and gives not this kind of orientation,
04:40
Europe is even more asked to do so.
04:42
And again, the biggest party of Europe must provide Europe exactly with this thinking and this content.
04:47
Let me come back for one question on the issue with the populists and, as you said, autocrats.
04:53
How do you want to fight them when the EPP is voting with them together many times in the European Parliament
04:59
when it comes to Green Deal or other issues?
05:03
Well, I as party leader defined a clear red line to the extremists.
05:07
We will never work together with those who are not respecting my three pros.
05:12
So pro-Ukraine, pro-rule of law and pro-Europe.
05:15
But there are fundamental things for us.
05:17
So you can name them.
05:19
It's Le Pen in France.
05:20
It's AFD in Germany.
05:22
There will be never a structured cooperation with them for us as EPP.
05:26
So we are ready to include the serious conservative parties in Europe.
05:30
For example, Giorgio Meloni showed in Italy, together with Antonio Tajani,
05:34
that they are credible, that they are center-based.
05:36
Petr Fiala in Czech Republic is fighting against Babiš and is a conservative politician.
05:40
And he should be part of a team, of a broader team on a European level.
05:43
So that's why I work together with the serious ones.
05:46
But with those who are really taking Europe into question,
05:49
like PIDEL and AFD or Le Pen, there is no cooperation possible at all.
05:53
But do you think that the EPP right now is more right-wing than it was, let's say, three years ago,
06:00
when it comes to migration, when it comes to the green policies?
06:03
I wouldn't say so, because, you know, we had already three years ago tough discussions about legislation like nature restoration law.
06:11
It was one of these symbolic debates we had in the last mandate,
06:15
where the left-leaning Franz Timmermans thinking was not anymore reflecting what the people asked us to do.
06:21
And also on, for example, building up fences, if needed, to stop instrumentalization of migration.
06:28
We did it in Finland, we did it in Poland, we did it in Greece.
06:31
So EPP was always coherent and consistent on this.
06:34
I would say today more and more voters follow our approach,
06:37
and that's why EPP won elections in the last years.
06:41
And we do this serious, we do this European way, we do it also based on rule of law,
06:46
like the Geneva Convention, like respecting the asylum right in Europe.
06:50
We are doing it not like the populist and extremist way.
06:53
So that's our middle ground, in a way, the serious center-right party who is providing answers in today's world.
06:59
Isn't the EPP too powerful right now with 12 heads of state at the European Council
07:05
and leadership of the European Commission,
07:08
and you in one person being the leader of the big EPP family and also of the EPP group.
07:15
I mean, isn't it too much of responsibility, of power in the European Union?
07:20
The mandate you described and the outcome you described is based on elections.
07:26
180 million people participated in the last European elections,
07:30
and they gave us a mandate, they voted.
07:32
Here in Spain, in Hungary, in Germany, in Finland, they voted.
07:35
And they decided to stop the period of a left-liberal-driven agenda
07:42
and now coming back to a center-right-driven agenda.
07:44
That's normal in democracy.
07:47
But what is a bigger problem is that when people vote for another European parliament,
07:51
for a center-right European parliament, things must change.
07:54
You know, we cannot continue as the left wish to see that then we continue as nothing happens.
08:00
My spirit is, I'm a Democrat.
08:02
You know, we won elections.
08:03
We have a mandate to leave.
08:05
But we do this together with the others, with the liberals, with the socialists,
08:09
and also with the conservative voters,
08:11
who are committed to be part of a European process.
08:15
Let's talk a little bit about geopolitics, because everything is changing under the presidency of Donald Trump.
08:23
Does Europe have enough self-confidence as one of the biggest markets
08:27
and one of the richest regions of the world to, you know, stand up and stand its ground?
08:33
Yes, I would say yes.
08:36
In this moment of time, I'm quite positive.
08:38
When it is about the answer on tariffs, for example, our answer was a strong one,
08:44
but also not trying to escalate.
08:46
So it was a balanced approach.
08:48
Look to what are we doing with the digital world,
08:52
so that we are implementing the Digital Market Act,
08:54
Digital Service Act into today's communication forms.
08:58
There we don't follow the Vance, the Vice President Vance concentration,
09:01
that everything is allowed.
09:03
No, in Europe not everything is allowed.
09:05
You cannot lie, you cannot do hate speeches there,
09:07
you cannot be anti-Semitic in today's world, in Europe.
09:09
Not everything is allowed.
09:11
And this implementation of our rules is making us self-confident,
09:15
that we believe in the European way of life,
09:18
not following the American, the Chinese, or the Russian approach.
09:21
I don't want to compare them, don't get me wrong.
09:24
But where we still need more engagement is the defense side
09:27
and the common external affairs policies,
09:30
and that's the task ahead of us.
09:32
When will Europe be able to defend itself alone?
09:36
Will there be ever a time when, you know,
09:39
we can do it without our American friends?
09:41
I think that must be the aim, the idea,
09:45
that in 2030, at the latest,
09:47
we must be capable to defend ourselves.
09:50
And Europe has all resources, have all capabilities,
09:53
and has also the political will to do it.
09:55
So let's do it.
09:56
And for us as EPP, it's always important to do this together with the American friends.
10:01
We have some uncertainty with Washington in their communication,
10:04
but in principle we define,
10:06
we have the same thinking about democracy,
10:09
about values, about freedom.
10:11
And that's why we stick with our European pillar of defense,
10:14
to NATO and to the common engagement on the transatlantic side.
10:17
And right now the European Union is willing to spend
10:20
800 billion euros on defense, rearmament, Europe.
10:25
This means also less money for hospitals,
10:28
for housing, less money for schools.
10:31
How do you want to explain this to your voters?
10:33
Well, in this moment of time,
10:34
we also allow member states to borrow more money.
10:38
So we pay this more on future perspective,
10:41
not so much on the current investments.
10:43
So people should not be so much worried about this.
10:45
But on the other hand,
10:46
without peace, without stability,
10:50
the rest is not important anymore.
10:51
So what we have to do is to protect stability,
10:55
peace inside of Europe.
10:56
And the precondition is that we can defend ourselves.
10:59
I think people understand the logic behind.
11:02
And we do this in a way that we can secure our social welfare system,
11:06
and that we can secure the investments in a climate-friendly,
11:10
in a digital world of tomorrow.
11:12
So there are a lot of issues on the table,
11:14
and we only can manage this if things are balanced finally.
11:17
Let me ask you one last question.
11:20
It's about the heritage of Pope Francis.
11:23
He was considered as a very progressive head of the Catholic Church.
11:27
You as a faithful Catholic,
11:29
how will you preserve his heritage in your political life?
11:33
I would hope that we keep our societies
11:36
and also the Catholic world together,
11:38
because the different parts, the different sections,
11:41
the different bubbles inside of our societies
11:43
are getting bigger and bigger,
11:45
and we have to unify again.
11:46
That's also in the tradition of the Catholic Church,
11:49
and also in the tradition of the European People's Party.
11:52
Manfred Weber, thanks very much for this interview.
11:54
I thank you so much.
11:55
I thank you so much.
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