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00:00Hello, everyone. I'm Shannon Bream, along with Rosanna Scotto, Jessica Tarla, Joey Jones,
00:06and Greg Gutfeld. It is five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five.
00:17Brand new video of a Milwaukee judge leaving the courthouse with her attorney after being
00:21arrested by the FBI, charged with two felonies for allegedly trying to help an illegal immigrant
00:27avoid being arrested by ICE. Judge Hannah Dugan is accused of misdirecting ICE agents to prevent
00:34them from detaining Eduardo Flores Ruiz, a Mexican national, after a court appearance.
00:39Now, the feds say she helped Ruiz sneak out through a jury door, but they still got him.
00:44He was still arrested. And that's not all. A former New Mexico judge and his wife were taken into
00:50custody yesterday. Federal agents arresting them for harboring a suspected Trendy Aragua gang member
00:55in their guest house. Attorney General Pam Bondi is putting other judges who obstruct ICE arrests
01:01on notice. This guy was in court being prosecuted by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery.
01:09He had beat up two people, a guy and a girl, beat the guy, hit the guy 30 times, knocked him to the
01:16ground, choked him, beat up a woman so badly they both had to go to the hospital. If you are harboring
01:21a fugitive, we don't care who you are. If you are helping hide one, if you are giving a TDA member
01:27guns, anyone who is illegally in this country, we will come after you and we will prosecute you.
01:32We will find you. It is not just the judges who are allegedly obstructing. Florida Democrat
01:38Congresswoman Frederica Wilson is calling for people to threaten members of Congress over the
01:43deportations. Watch this. I've been giving out the phone numbers to the House of Representatives
01:50and to the Senate. It's one number. That number you call and you threaten it. And you say,
01:59this is wrong. This is not America. It's an uprising. People are taking to the streets and the phones
02:09and the writing letters. That's what we do. The Lake and Raleigh Act has caused an increase in
02:16detainees. Okay, there is a lot to unpack here. Rosanna, I want to start with you. She said,
02:23you threaten them. She may want to clarify that, but that is what she's caught on tape saying.
02:26Well, she's saying basically call and make themselves known. Raise a ruckus. But threaten is a different
02:32word when you say threaten. And we've seen Maxine Waters say that too. And people listen to them.
02:37Unfortunately, as we know, there are people in this society who take literally what you say.
02:44And I don't know. I don't think it was a great idea. Can we get back to the courtroom? Because I
02:49think everybody is just trying to figure out what happened in that courtroom with the judge
02:54being arrested. And yes, it's concerning. It's disappointing. But I was also thinking about
03:01the victims who were in that courtroom. I've covered many cases as a reporter of domestic abuse.
03:08A lot of these victims don't like to go against the people who have attacked them. They're scared.
03:16They're afraid of retribution. So that woman is sitting in that courtroom where all of a sudden,
03:22the man that she believes, you know, attacked her is at a side door, disappeared. And the next thing,
03:29you know, who knows what happened in that courtroom? All hell breaks out. They're looking for him.
03:34I was looking over the criminal complaint. And Jessica and I were talking earlier. And she was
03:40very, very concerned about the standard, what we were starting with something like this. But when you
03:46look over this, and you see that a courtroom deputy in this complaint basically said that this was
03:53very unusual in that courtroom, in the judge's courtroom, they said, first, the courtroom deputy
04:00had previously heard Judge Dugan direct people not to sit in the jury box because it was exclusively for
04:05the jury use. However, the defendant was allowed to sit in the jury box. Secondly, the judge is then
04:15overheard, basically telling the defendant and his attorney to go out the side door. And the next
04:23thing you know, ICE agents are being told what's going on. They're running after this guy on foot.
04:29I don't know. Something, something is very fishy here.
04:33Yeah, they chased him down the street.
04:34They chased him down the street.
04:35They chased him down the street and they got him.
04:36And there's a debate about how he got out and what the judge directed him to do.
04:39I know everybody's worried about the judge, but, you know.
04:42Right. And so what DHS is telling us, it says he has a laundry list of violent criminal charges,
04:47including strangulation and suffocation, battery and domestic abuse. We couldn't verify all of that,
04:51but we could verify three domestic abuse charges. Infliction of physical pain or injury is what we're
04:57told. But Greg, the allegation is the judge felt like that's the guy who needed protecting.
05:02Yeah. I would like to quote Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and every self-righteous Democrat.
05:07No one is above the law. And that includes left-wing judges who subvert the law themselves.
05:14This isn't even about political ideology or even immigration. We're seeing judges who clearly
05:18lean towards a specific side. They're called activist judges, but that's a contradiction.
05:24Judges are not activists. They are judges. Maybe this judge has a backstory with this illegal.
05:29Could it be? It's not just the gavel that she's banging, Shannon. I want to talk about Frederica
05:35Wilson. It's hard to take her seriously when she dresses like she's auditioning for the Real
05:42Housewives of the Kentucky Derby. They define their what you're seeing is a lot of these people in
05:50power define their positions by their hatred for Trump. If he came out against self-harm,
05:56she would probably punch herself in the face. I understand loyal opposition. That's your role
06:01when you aren't in power. But you should have some duty to your constituents to offer them a
06:06better path than what you're seeing. What would you do differently? The whole point of this was
06:11getting rid of the worst first. We have an illegal immigration problem. We have a border problem.
06:16Now we are actually doing something that people voted for. This is the adult solution. The worst
06:22first. What is your solution other than, I don't know, trying to stop the process altogether?
06:28That's my question. Is this going to happen with every single deportation? Are they just going to
06:32try to hinder what Americans voted for, bogging it down and exhausting us with maybe like one case a
06:38week, something that they never did with Obama when he deported 2.4 million illegals? They're turning
06:46an administrative process into a legal one. Imagine a game where a corrupt umpire throws a flag on every
06:54play so the game can't go forward for one reason or another. This is what they were doing. And by the
06:59way, this is what they did to the first Trump administration. They constantly waged lawfare on
07:04him. And this is lawfare now specifically pointed at the process that Americans voted for, which is to get
07:12the illegal aliens out of this country. Well, and Greg, to your point about the polls, we have brand
07:17new Fox News polling this week that showed that a majority of people do agree and support the
07:21president, approve, Jessica, of what he's doing when it comes to border security. I mean, the numbers have
07:25gone to a trickle by any objective standard. And they say they do want people out of this country
07:31if they're here illegally. A guy who's accused of these things, is that who Democrats want to be seen
07:36aligning with or defending? I think that Democrats and people who have respect for
07:43the separation of powers are aligning with the judge, not with this guy who was let out the
07:49side door and got picked up. Maybe he deserves to be deported out of here. He deserves to stay in court
07:53and then he deserves to go if he's not supposed to be here. And those things are true. But yes,
07:57in our Fox News polling, you see an approval, positive approval for the president on border security,
08:03but he's underwater in terms of handling immigration. And now that's true across the
08:06board on all the major polls. We've seen it in Reuters, you see it in Quinnipiac, you see it in
08:10the YouGov poll. Americans have only seen three months of what this administration is doing in
08:16terms of immigration. And they went from approving it 10 plus points to a strong disapproval. And
08:24that's because it feels completely lawless. And Greg says these are activist judges, the Supreme Court,
08:30a conservative court that Donald Trump himself was able to pack is not an activist.
08:34I'm talking about her.
08:35No, I'm talking, but it's about all of them. He's gone against the Supreme Court.
08:39But that year, I didn't say that.
08:40He's gone against the Fourth Circuit. Fourth Circuit, a Reagan appointee who wrote that decision
08:44saying you can't send this latest shipment to Venezuela. Now you're talking about this woman,
08:49a county judge. And when Pam Bondi comes out there and says, we will come after you and we will
08:54prosecute you, we will find you. That is meant to have a chilling effect.
08:58They didn't need to. Again, you cite polls, but I apologize. Adults have to do the adult job and
09:06it's not going to be popular. You know what the adult job is? First of all, not announcing this
09:09on social media, having to take it down and then putting it back up. The adult thing to do would
09:13be to have called her in and have her come in and have a conversation about it. They didn't need
09:17to publicly arrest this woman. They wanted to make a show. They didn't need to make a show of it,
09:23but everything is for the camera. Somebody whose actual purpose in this world is to enact justice
09:29and sometimes be the sole deciding factor on what justice is, who sits in front of people and has
09:35their entire lives in her hands. And she can't do something as simple as obey the law herself.
09:40And we should just hide it under the rug, bring her into a room and pat her on the hand for putting
09:44a guy back out on the street or trying to hide a guy from the proper authorities who punched someone
09:5030 times and then struck a woman trying to break it up. With all due respect, this whole argument
09:55about these Venezuelan gang members or people who say they aren't in a gang, but they've got MS-13
10:00in code on their knuckles to say that, to say that, well, whatever it, okay. Not everybody,
10:05you've also sat here and argued against using tattoos to say if someone's a member of MS-13.
10:11So anyone who has a tie to MS-13 or the government suspects of it, if you tell me that they deserve due
10:16process, I tell you that I know Lake and Riley's dad and I would go out and kick every one of them
10:21off this out of this country just because of Lake and Riley. So when Frederica Wilson said something
10:26like they're more people are getting rolled up because of Lake and Riley, you're damn right they
10:30are because this whole country saw what happened to Lake and Riley. And we said, hell no. And then
10:36that act was passed by Congress that we voted in and signed into law by a president that we voted in.
10:42And if not being for due process for illegal immigrants that come here and commit crime
10:46makes me a bad American, okay, well at least I'm still American and that's a hell of a lot more than
10:50they are. But conservative juggernauts like Antonin Scalia have spoken about the fact that people who
10:58are here undocumented deserve due process. They can have their intellectual arguments. I live in the
11:03real world where people get hurt, where my sister gets a head-on collision from a drunk illegal who was
11:07brought here by a coyote that the Biden administration was happy letting operate.
11:13I live in the real world. I don't live in New York. I don't live in DC. I don't live by the Supreme
11:17Court. I live in Northwest Georgia. I live in a town that 78% is Spanish anymore.
11:21Abrego absolutely. Abrego had due process. That's why all those people are here.
11:25No, he didn't. Yes. See, the problem here is that you say due process. We're all supposed to go,
11:31that must mean some kind of court. No, it's not a court. It's an administrative action.
11:36The guy was told what two judges said he was an illegal. Well,
11:40somebody tells me he's going to get, he is going to get. And somebody tells me he's
11:44going to have some version of due process and it's also going to involve him not residing in
11:48this country. Okay. Yeah. Oh, that's a whole nother discussion. All right. Up next.
11:53Did a moderate Democrat just take a big shot at Bernie and AOC? Democratic Senator Alyssa Slotkin
11:59has a war plan to defeat President Trump. In an interview with Politico, she said, quote,
12:05the Democrats are too weak and woke. They need to bleepin retake the flag. The party needs to adopt
12:13the bleepin alpha energy of Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell, and they need to stop attacking the
12:20oligarchy because nobody knows what that is. That last one seems to be a shot at AOC, who's busy touring
12:28as the fighting oligarchy face of the Dems. And now her new social media post is sparking. Well,
12:342028 presidential buzz. Take a look. Don't let them trick us into thinking we are enemies.
12:42Don't let them trick us into thinking we can be separated into rural and urban black and right and
12:48Latino. We are one. And that comes as CNN's data guru says he believes there's a revolt happening in the
12:56Democratic Democratic Party. Check this out. This, I think, is a revolt, a revolt that is going on
13:03within the Democratic Party right now. Last year at this time, 80 percent believe that the Democratic
13:08leaders in Congress would do the right thing when it comes to the economy. Keep in mind, this is
13:11Democrats. Look at where we are now. That number has been slashed in half to just 39 percent. Holy
13:18Toledo, Democrats hate, hate, hate, hate what their congressional leaders in Washington are doing right now
13:25on the key issue of the day. Well, it looks like the Democrats are starting with a new approach.
13:30I think they're calling it the dark woke. Joey, does it have your attention? The dark? Well, I like
13:36that. You know, how do you do what she's talking about without really forsaking everything that makes
13:42you a Democrat in 2025? And she talks about retake the flag. You told me that that flag is oppressive
13:46and a symbolism of slavery and colonization. She wants to promote alpha energy. You spent the last
13:52decade talking about toxic masculinity, telling me that that it's misogynistic to want little
13:58boys to stay little boys. You tell me all the time that the patriarchy is written in the Constitution.
14:03That's why I wore it in my in my pocket square today, because I kind of like it. What alpha energy
14:08are you talking about? What American patriotism are you talking about? Listen, the truth is, we don't
14:12think that you are weak and woke. We think you promote weak and woke policies. That's the difference.
14:20It's not about you. I mean, Tim Walts is an embarrassment to everyone that's ever served.
14:24But outside of that, it's not about the individuals. Some of them have high
14:28likability ratings. AOC can go on social media and get a lot of applause. But her ideas suck.
14:34Her ideas on the economy, talking about the oligarchy. Regular people are who I guess you're
14:40promoting when you're attacking the oligarchy. Don't use the word oligarchy. They say those rich
14:45people that are in D.C. and New York that run everything. Maybe use that term instead. No, you can't
14:50because you represent them in New York. Right. And then you work in D.C. Oh, man. You'll so use
14:55oligarchy. Well, listen, Greg, AOC and Bernie, they are definitely attracting huge crowds wherever
15:01they go. One of the stops, they actually used a private plane, which was pretty key. But anyway,
15:07she is definitely getting attention. She's evolving in her politics. Remember when she was,
15:13well, boxed into a corner by Nancy Pelosi? You know, I do think Harry Anton is right. The
15:19Democratic Party is revolting. I got it. I just want to piggyback on what Joey said about slotkin.
15:28By the way, she's beautiful. I disagree with all of you. She says in her thing, she's you have to stop
15:37indulging the woke. Leave the woke behind. Why didn't she go first? Where was she on the trans
15:43issue? If you look it up, when the subject comes up, she says, oh, she did the coward's way out.
15:50She said it's not that big of an issue. Oh, it was a big issue. Cost you an election. Where were you?
15:56Why didn't you share the risk with other women who felt threatened by strange men in women's spaces?
16:01It was cow. I actually don't think the woke is as bad as people like slotkin because slotkin
16:08and Joe Biden were the ones that let all that stuff in and then hit it under this guise of moderation.
16:15That's what bothers me. I don't think it's about 2028. I think it's about the 2080. The fact that the
16:21Democrats always pick a position in which only 20 percent agree with them and the 80 percent think
16:27they're nuts rather than doing the hard work, like you say, which is to to actually kind of look inward,
16:32find out what's wrong with your party. They're betting on the 80 going down rather than raising
16:38their 20. But and that could happen. I mean, you know, every president has a honeymoon and it changes.
16:44But my guess is you could disagree on Trump with Trump on deportation tariffs, but you're still going
16:52to vote for him because he's a leader and he's real. He's authentic. When you look at this other
16:58batch of weirdos, would you ever want to spend any time in an elevator with them? Like with an Adam Schiff
17:04or AOC or the squad, the rest of the squad? No, there's no sense of humor. You don't even know what
17:13they are. But with Trump, you know what he is. And he's a leader who loves America, America first. And you may
17:19disagree with little things, but it doesn't matter because at least you know where he stands.
17:23A lot of people think AOC, you know, has evolved in her politics, Jess. I mean,
17:28is it that we've gotten used to her or she's evolved? She's definitely evolved. If you listen
17:33to her at the DNC, it didn't have any of the usual kind of left wing populism to it. She was talking
17:39about economic inequality, which is her main issue and Donald Trump's main issue and how Bernie Sanders
17:45campaigned in 16 and 20. She has definitely changed. I think she's going to be the 2028
17:51candidate. I'm not sure about that, but I think she could definitely own the progressive lane.
17:56And she's incredibly talented and Republicans admit that all the time and also that she's very
17:59likable. She has some interesting friendships on the hill that you wouldn't expect with some of the
18:03most conservative members. As far as Alyssa Slotkin is concerned, she has delivered the goods.
18:09She won a swing state that Donald Trump also won. She has served this country. She has tested
18:17these lines out there campaigning and people, Republicans, Democrats, and independents,
18:23moderates, progressives, all of them have come back and said, we're invested in you. We think you
18:28can represent us well. And when you look at how moderates do in elections versus progressives,
18:33moderates overperform usually about three and a half points on the Democratic side and progressives
18:37usually underperform about five points. She wants the Democrats to be talking about the things
18:44that are important to Americans. And that is right now the economy. And the economy is in tatters
18:48because of this trade war that Donald Trump has kicked off. We know his economic rating is down
18:53about 20 points. His approval in the new Reuters poll, 37 percent. New York Times, Sienna, 42 percent.
19:00So when she's out there saying, we need to talk about protecting small businesses that are getting
19:04killed by this trade war with China. We need to talk about protecting farmers. Donald Trump might
19:08have to do a carve out for them. It's going to be so terrible. Needs to talk about patriotism.
19:14That means anyone who wants to serve in this country and is fit to serve, that we welcome that.
19:18And I see you look up. A trans person. That perked my ears. What do you mean? Do you mean like
19:23trans? Are you talking about trans in the military? Trans in the military. There you go.
19:27Down the hill. No, it's not. No, but I like where you're going because that's the next step.
19:35It's like, okay, then what do you do? Well, you mentioned patriotism. And what did you mention?
19:41Trans. That's not what Americans think. When Americans think patriotism. They think all Americans.
19:49They think all Americans. Oh, so that's about that people. You've got to be fit to serve.
19:53I'm saying my first thought was. Shannon. Well, I think, I think there's an identity
20:00crisis within the party for sure, because you've got Senator Slotkin, very interesting,
20:04a former CIA analyst. And I think she's being very strategic about how she wants to go after this.
20:08They chose her to give the response to the joint address to Congress. So clearly many people in the
20:13party think that's their lane. She has called out AOC. She says, I can't be like her. I actually have to
20:17get stuff done. Clearly, despite her, she is getting really big crowds. But it makes you wonder,
20:23is this what's leading to the whole David Hogg showdown with the chair of the DNC? Because there
20:27are two very different wings and two very different visions about how the party moves forward.
20:31She didn't stand up for women. She's a coward. So you guys can paint her as some kind of moderate.
20:37That ain't a moderate. That's a coward. Okay. On that note, ahead, Bill Maher is hitting back at
20:43Larry David's outrageous op-ed in the New York Times this week. It linked Mars dinner with the
20:52president to dining with Adolf Hitler. Check this out. To use the Hitler thing. First of all,
20:59I just think it's kind of insulting to 6 million dead Jews, you know, like that should kind of be
21:07in its own place in history. Hitler has really kind of got to stay in his own place. He is the goat of
21:15evil. And we're just going to have to, I think, leave it like that. Such a radical statement to say
21:22that, you know, people aren't equivalent to Hitler. Shannon, I feel like the real outrage here is that
21:26it's an intellectual dishonesty when they link Trump to Hitler, because if Trump is using the executive
21:31powers to enact his will in our government, that's more like Obama, right? I mean, than Hitler. I mean,
21:37I'm just saying they like him a lot. Yeah, they like the pen and when it's used, depending on the
21:42president using it. But you mentioned executive power. This is a president right now who was
21:46getting blowback for using executive orders to try to shut down anti-Semitism on college campuses.
21:52So I find it rich that there would be this constant equation of him with Nazism or with Hitler.
21:58I think it's lazy. I think it's offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Hitler.
22:03And it kind of just signals that you don't have an argument if that's where you go. But this is a
22:07man who is trying to take action against anti-Semitism. He has a daughter and grandchildren who are Jewish
22:12as well. He had the Abraham Accords. This is a man that is well-loved in Israel, and they feel like
22:16he's actually fought on their behalf. Rosanna, you know, they just go straight to Hitler with this
22:20comparison. And I didn't read the Larry David op-ed, because I'm not going to pay the New York
22:26times for their paywall. But I mean, is this more of a joke? Like, do we have to defend comedy even
22:32when it's offensive? Or is this just a part of that trope that they use that Trump is literally Hitler?
22:37I have to say, I just kept thinking Larry David and Bill Maher are supposed to be friends. Yeah.
22:42Larry David didn't feel like it was necessary to pick up the phone to his friend and say, hey,
22:47why'd you do that? Instead, he writes this op-ed that the deputy opinion editor felt needed a message
22:54from him to kind of explain what Larry David wrote. You know, it just goes back to when you go and start
23:01calling somebody a Hitler lover. OK, you don't want to have a conversation with them. You want to silence
23:08them. You want to end that argument right there. And it just kind of reminds me of what's been going
23:14on the last few months. You you watch if you watch former MSNB host NBC how to story read. She
23:22encouraged her viewers. Nobody did. That's why it's for me. But anyway, I'm sorry. She encouraged
23:28her viewers not to have dinner with their family for Thanksgiving if they voted for Trump. OK,
23:36she wasn't the only one who did that. Sunny Hostet from The View. She also told people,
23:42you know, distance yourself from your family. What's going on with our world that we're
23:48encouraging this? And instead of inviting people to get back around the table and discuss things,
23:55I remember, you know, in my family growing up, we had this kind of discourse. But now we want to shame
24:01people. We want to silence. That's interesting. It's like they dehumanize conservatives,
24:05almost like the Nazis dehumanize Jews. But we won't make those comparisons around here. Greg,
24:11I got a good one for you, Greg. I can't wait. I think Bill Maher absolutely got the last laugh
24:15because in that Piers Morgan interview, he said very nonchalantly, if I can talk to Trump,
24:20I can talk to Larry David, too. He made an actual comparison and said,
24:24you're just as bad as anyone you're throwing. I mean, Maher's making a very important point that
24:30has to be made, given the fact that so many people have been doing this for the past eight years.
24:34This is not a news story. Larry David is neither original in this comparison or brave
24:41in this comparison. This is kind of a cowardly, lazy move on his part.
24:46Hitler is a mass murderer. He's not just someone who reminds you of somebody you don't like.
24:51You know, what you're actually doing is you're lessening the magnitude of the horrors of the
24:57Holocaust. And Barr makes that pretty clear. The problem here is that
25:04I couldn't find any instance where Larry David took a stand where it counted. Like,
25:10did he defend Jerry Seinfeld when he was targeted by pro-Hamas activists? I couldn't find that.
25:15Did he pen an op-ed about the acts of intimidation and aggression by Jew haters on all these college
25:22campuses? I didn't see any of that. Did he confront pro-Hamas creeps who tore down the posters of
25:28Jewish hostages in New York? I mean, he could have done that and it probably happened in California.
25:32Did he say anything at all about the remaining hostages? I haven't heard anything. I did a search.
25:38I didn't find anything. But he does this. This is the place that he chooses to be brave. That's why
25:48I find it kind of stupid and silly and sad. You know, and by the way, Trump has done way more
25:55for Jews than Larry David has. So that makes Larry David worse than Hitler.
26:01Jessica, this is a very important question. It's an intellectual. It's kind of like Sophie's
26:05choice a little bit here. If I could give you a time machine and a gun and you could go back and
26:10kill baby Hitler or baby Trump, how long would it take you to make that decision? Would it, would it
26:14take a few days? I was born ready for that decision and we all know what that is. But Larry David has
26:20delivered for the Jews throughout the years with the comedy, right? Seinfeld and Curb Your Enthusiasm,
26:26major cultural touchstones for my people and a huge amount of respect for that.
26:32I think a comparison to Hitler, and I've said this consistently, is unwarranted. If you want to
26:39talk about authoritarianism, I could have that conversation and I do have it on a daily basis.
26:44I think, you know, Donald Trump has no respect for a free press. Donald Trump doesn't respect Congress
26:49or the judiciary. Donald Trump does have so much in common with regular Americans.
26:54What? No, he doesn't. Listen. I don't have respect for that either.
26:59That's all I'm saying. He only has respect for voters when they pitch him. That's not true.
27:04He's never gone after voters. He only goes after the people who represent him.
27:08In 2020, he said, I won, even though he lost by seven million votes. That's the clearest
27:11example of, don't put it in quotes. He did lose.
27:15By seven million votes. Not true. But anyway, we'll indulge.
27:22Gregory. All right. We're good with this one. I would move on.
27:26She said she would kill baby Hitler. It's Friday. Okay.
27:30With 38% of young adults saying they've ignored their provider in favor of advice from social media.
27:37Shannon, not surprising, but concerning. Well, and the fact is that we know from studies that people
27:43are getting their news and their information from influencers and from TikTok, too. And some of
27:48these places don't have the U.S. best interest at heart. What if we're getting fed, you know,
27:53bad information from people that are enemies of the United States? I don't know. I feel like
27:58not a responsible thing to do. Or even just crazy Americans.
28:00Or they could just be crazy Americans. People without medical training is what the study said.
28:03So I don't know that that's where I want to take my medical advice from.
28:07No. Greg, you're itching. Are you just itching?
28:10This is stupid. You have to understand. Step back. This is the dumbest. One of the dumbest
28:16things we've ever done. If you're talking about people, Gen Z, you're talking about the cohort
28:22that doesn't have health problems, right? What's your biggest health problem? Get a beach body by
28:26June 15th. I have to get rid of some back acne. Maybe I got a UTI. When I was their age, my health
28:32problem was hangover. They don't have osteoporosis. They don't have lymphoma. They don't have like an
28:40enlarged prostate. Sorry, Joey. They don't have to. That's where you go. You don't need a doctor.
28:49Stupid topic, Jessica. I did not decide. I blame you and the Democratic Party.
28:55This is Slotkin's fault. But if they feel this way in their 20s, that's going to carry on when they
29:03will actually need a doctor. Gen Z is 18 to 45, Greg. Yes, but still. That's a big spot.
29:10Isn't it? No. 18 to like 29, 30. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean like teens. It's a generation.
29:16Millennials in there. Like the 40s. No. Well, yeah. Now we're. Okay. Okay. I'm just saying.
29:21Carry on. It's very easy for them to say, of course, they're going to go online. It's convenient. This is
29:27how they grew up. They trust the people that they follow. That's another problem. Also,
29:33they distrust institutions. They don't like us, right? They'd rather follow the fake news on their
29:40feed and the algorithms tailor content to their interests. So, of course, they're going to get
29:46what they want to hear. Not always smart. Not. I think it's very obvious. Nobody's hit on it yet.
29:53This is the generation that had their high school graduation taken away because of COVID and lockdowns.
29:57This is the generation that had a front row seat to the negative effects of letting a doctor with an
30:02ego absolutely destroy the country. And they're absolutely sensitive to that. It was influencers
30:09in 2020 that said, I'm not going to take the vaccine. I can't give you a study, but I don't trust
30:14it. And here's the reasons why. So, I mean, they're primed to trust people who talk about holistic
30:20medicine or at least skepticism of the bought and paid for medical industry in this country.
30:26The medical industry in this country is absolutely geared towards treating symptoms, not causes.
30:30That's not disputed whatsoever. I'd go to any doctor and tell them I'm hurting. And they're
30:34going to say, what pain medication do you want? They're not going to say, let's figure out why.
30:38I don't blame them for not trusting them. I don't know what these influencers are,
30:41what they're saying. But if they're saying stuff like, hey, try this root, you know,
30:45T instead, what's the harm? I mean, anyway, we have to go. But there can be a lot of
30:51harm when you're not trusting. Only trust good looking influencers. That's my rule.
30:56I think generally that usually works. No, there's some ugly ones. Okay.
30:59Fairmail Friday is up next.
31:11Fairmail Friday here.