Ann Widddecome says she is not 'teaming up with any losers' in Tory dig to Robert JenrickTimes Radio
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00:00The Anne Whittacombe that I worked with wouldn't necessarily have wanted to nationalise the steel industry.
00:05And it's interesting just then you talked about, you know, benefit cuts and with a sort of spin on being against them.
00:13Or at least that was that maybe maybe I'm going too far there, but that seemed to be the implication of the point you were making.
00:18Do you not worry that reform will have to occupy Labour territory as much as Labour will occupy reform?
00:24I do sincerely hope not. But I think that one of the great strengths of reform is that we're not tied by an agenda from history and saying, well, conservatives always say this and Labour always says that.
00:37You don't say reform always says anything because reform is a new movement.
00:42And therefore, I think we have much more scope for the policies that we decide.
00:49Now, you mentioned nationalisation. I'm not in favour of nationalisation. Never have been.
00:53Nigel knows that. But we had an emergency and I did say and I do believe the government did the right thing in the emergency that there was.
01:03But I would never advocate nationalisation as a general policy. Never.
01:07Would you would you like to to team up with Robert Jenrick now that he said he'd like to bring together the coalition of the Tories and reform?
01:16Absolutely not. I'm not teaming up with any losers. Reform is winning.
01:20Reform is at the top of the polls. We're fielding the most candidates in the local elections.
01:24We are winning. Why on earth we would want to join up with a bunch of people who squandered an 80 seat majority into an opposition landslide?
01:34I don't know. I certainly don't know.
01:36Well, of course, it may be that one of the reasons they did that was because you decided not to cooperate with them.
01:40But that's a whole nother question.
01:42But that's a whole nother question.