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Chris Van Hollen Asked About GOP Critique That He Cares More About Abrego Garcia Than Rachel Morin
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4/18/2025
At a press briefing on Friday, Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) spoke about the death of Rachel Morin.
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The response from Republicans to your visit is that you care more to meet with Abrego Garcia than you do with Rachel Warren,
00:13
who is the mother of a woman, a Maryland woman who died in your state.
00:17
What is your response to that criticism specifically?
00:20
Well, my response is that my heart goes out to the family of Rachel Warren.
00:25
And as I said at the time, my heart breaks for what happened to them.
00:31
That should not happen to any family in America.
00:35
And I am very glad that a court of law convicted her killer and is going to punish her killer in a court of law.
00:46
The reason we have courts of law are to punish the guilty, but also to make sure that those who have not committed crimes
00:55
are not found guilty and arbitrarily detained.
00:59
In other words, everybody has due process.
01:02
So the effort by the Trump administration to try to conflate these two issues goes to the heart of what I was just talking about,
01:11
their effort to change the subject.
01:13
But again, to the Warren family, we have three children.
01:18
I cannot imagine losing a child in the heart rate of that cause.
01:22
And it should not happen.
01:23
And my heart breaks for everybody in Maryland or America who has lost a loved one to violence,
01:33
regardless of the perpetrator.
01:35
Senator, in your meeting with the Vice President, were you able to leave any information about the United States agreement
01:40
with El Salvador related to the detention facility?
01:43
The terms, how much we pay, if the government has any say whatsoever what happens inside of the Brexit?
01:50
So I didn't learn that directly from the Vice President, but I have learned about the commitments that have been made.
01:58
So the Trump administration has promised to pay El Salvador $15 million to detain these prisoners,
02:07
including the illegally abducted from the month.
02:12
My best information, and it's pretty good in the case to date,
02:17
they've paid out more than $4 million of that $15 million.
02:22
As to the terms of an agreement, I've not seen an agreement.
02:27
I don't know whether there is an agreement that specifically spells out the terms and conditions here.
02:37
I am aware that there was some document that memorialized the payments.
02:44
But again, I do not know in any way if it goes through the details.
02:48
Senator, what's the next step here in light of the defiance from Jersey, defiance from the Trump administration?
02:57
What does Congress do?
02:59
So, you know, everybody asks those of us who are Democratic senators whether there's any bottom line
03:08
where Republican senators will say enough's enough and won't simply continue to be rubber stamps for the Trump administration.
03:19
So far, we haven't hit bottom.
03:23
In this case, we have what I believe is an outright defiance of the Supreme Court.
03:30
People still may want to hang their hat on the fact that it hasn't been legally adjudicated.
03:37
As you know, the federal district court judge has ordered depositions of the administration officials.
03:43
The Trump administration appealed it.
03:45
That's what the Fourth Circuit decision was all about.
03:48
That may well go to the Supreme Court.
03:50
I don't know if the Trump administration is appealing that.
03:52
So the question is, is there any point when the president is violating the Constitution of the United States
03:58
that Republicans will stand up to the Constitution rather than just continue to do the bidding?
04:05
Without Republicans, Democrats are powerless.
04:07
When it comes to Congress.
04:08
But let me say something about that.
04:10
Not totally powerless.
04:12
Because appropriations need to go through the Congress.
04:15
And that $15 million, you can be sure we're going to be looking for where it is.
04:23
Because that wasn't authorized in previous appropriations.
04:27
We're operating under a continuing resolution.
04:29
Now, they may try to pretend they can transfer that.
04:33
But there's some indication that they were planning anyway until now to make that as part of the request.
04:40
And you can be sure that I won't support the use of one penny of taxpayer dollars to keep Abrego Garcia illegally detained in El Salvador.
04:56
And so as part of that process, yes, Democrats, at least in the Senate, have some sway.
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