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Former UK official: Personal ties don’t matter in politics
AlArabiya English
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4/18/2025
Former UK Minister of State for Europe Denis MacShane says personal ties mean little in politics so Trump and Meloni’s connection won’t change outcomes.
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Do you think personal relationships, having seen the goings-on in bilateral discussions
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that you've presumably been party to, do you think they matter in the context of trying
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to defuse a trade war like this one?
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Honestly, not.
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I would shuttlecock between Tony Blair and then-German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder or
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the French president or Dominique de Villepin, the foreign minister.
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I knew them well.
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I spoke French.
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I spoke German.
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I campaigned with Gerhard.
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And Schröder was a friendly pro-Blair guy, but he once just waved me away and said,
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no, Dennis, don't come and talk to me about what Tony Blair wants, because all I hear is
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the voice of Rupert Murdoch.
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And until Tony cuts free from Rupert Murdoch and speaks for Europe as well as simply the
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Murdoch position and everything, I'm not interested in him.
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That was just, you know, he was tired, exhausted at the end of a bad day of negotiations.
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So I think Mr. Trump will say, I love tariffs.
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Europe has been screwing us.
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Italy's been screwing us.
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You've not, you've taken advantage of America.
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Why?
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I mean, Italy has done nothing different from France, Spain, the Netherlands, Sweden, Great
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Britain in terms of trade with America.
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America, and the fact they have a small ideological affiliation, not really a very big one, I don't
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think is going to make any difference.
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It's been a very big deal.
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