Australia's political titans clash over global issues in intense TV debate

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00:00He knows that he's got it wrong again in relation to national security.

00:14This is a government that's ripped $80 billion out of defence.

00:17And we've seen the relationship in relation to Indonesia and Russia grow closer.

00:23Exercises in November and just yesterday Russia's Deputy Prime Minister met the Indonesian...

00:28Peter's suggesting that there should be a response to something that isn't happening.

00:33And this is the second of the failures that we've seen of diplomacy and of mature responses

00:41to international issues just during this campaign.

00:44When President Trump made the announcement that every single country in the world will

00:49be hit with tariffs, the Alternative Prime Minister suggested that we should put defence and our

00:56defence relationship with the United States on the bargaining table.

01:00...is the only one of the top 20 economies that hasn't signed up to or isn't...

01:04That I thought the scenes that we saw coming out of the White House, the treatment of President

01:09Zelensky was a disgrace, that it was appalling.

01:12And I stand by those comments.

01:13And we need to have a very strong working relationship with the United States.

01:17Of course we do.

01:18Do you trust him was the question.

01:19Well, we trust the United States and I don't know the President.

01:23I've not met him.

01:25The Prime Minister obviously has been able to...

01:28So you're not going to say you trust Donald Trump?

01:29I don't know Donald Trump is my point.

01:32My point is that who I trust is the Australian people.

01:36My job is to stand up for our country's interests, which is what I did when we negotiated the

01:42Orcas deal with President Biden.

01:43OK.

01:43No other leaders manage this.

01:45How do you plan to pull that?

01:47The United States is very keen to get access to critical minerals and rare earths.

01:54The trade dispute with China is particularly concerning to many in the US economy.

02:01So we reserve this for the United States?

02:03No.

02:04Well, we'll negotiate with the United States rather than with you, David.

02:08With respect.

02:08I've got to try.

02:09With respect.

02:10Mr Dutton, you...

02:11...protect frontline positions, which I think is important.

02:13...and are incredibly important.

02:14And we've announced more funding for GPs into...

02:17We demonstrated it in the first presidency that we were able to get an exemption when

02:22other countries weren't.

02:23So all I'm saying is that...

02:25So everyone else in the world can't get it.

02:27You would.

02:28Well, as you know, when other countries were slapped with the tariff last time, we were

02:33exempt from it under a coalition government.

02:34So were plenty of others.

02:35This time, no-one's got an exemption.

02:37Well...

02:37Do you reckon you could?

02:38We've got an ambassador now who can't get a phone call to the president.

02:41We had an ambassador who used to play golf with him.

02:43We have people in Washington who have worked for coalition governments, people who have

02:49worked for the Australian government.

02:50I think there is the ability to do a deal.

02:53We'll point to it.

02:57So...

03:00We'll point...

03:03...

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