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PTI, Plagued by Factionalism, How Will It Form an Opposition Alliance?
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4/7/2025
PTI, Plagued by Factionalism, How Will It Form an Opposition Alliance?
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00:00
These things are not an alarm for us, that what will happen.
00:03
These backdoor contacts, whether they will remain in the hands of a party or not,
00:07
we had put this in the first reservations and said that this will not happen.
00:12
If someone has contacts, then he will decide the order of the alliance.
00:16
That alliance has not been formed yet, or even the old alliance,
00:20
I think even its order does not know about this matter.
00:22
And this is going on, so in this way, it will become difficult for us.
00:29
There is another stakeholder of the alliance, Mr. Haqan Abbasi.
00:33
He is also not happy with the way things are going.
00:35
What is he saying? Listen to this.
00:37
In PTI, the issue is that every person speaks differently.
00:41
And Imran Khan himself says that he has said this to me.
00:44
So there is a lot of contradiction in those things.
00:46
That is why when he speaks, it is not permanent.
00:48
You cannot make a decision on it with confidence.
00:51
If the Chief Minister of KP starts a personal attack on Mr. Mulana,
00:54
starts various things, then the atmosphere becomes bad.
00:57
So this matter has not been resolved yet.
01:00
Okay, so you have seen that in this matter,
01:02
there are cases of allegations,
01:04
which were also filed by Ali Amin Ghandapur.
01:07
And Asad Kaisar, Shehram Tarqai, Atif Khan,
01:10
they were also accused.
01:11
So these cases are also present in their place.
01:13
By the way, what do you make of it?
01:16
I mean, the concerns of the JUI,
01:18
and where is this boat going?
01:20
Look, PTI is now fighting the movements,
01:25
they have been divided into different groups.
01:28
And sometimes they try to get real freedom from the American Congressmen.
01:34
Sometimes they want to get real freedom by fighting the Oxford election.
01:40
Sometimes they want to get real freedom by writing letters to the Chief of Army Staff.
01:44
And now these people are trying to backdoor diplomacy.
01:48
In which they are trying to involve journalists.
01:53
So PTI is in utter confusion.
01:55
The issue is that they are not taking their allies on board.
01:58
Look, I think, we thought that if this Grand Alliance is formed,
02:03
then it will not be a bad move, it will be a good move.
02:06
Because PTI itself has been doing the politics of dissolution,
02:10
and will continue to do so, as per their mood.
02:12
So it will be a trump on them,
02:15
that when these allies will come,
02:17
then maybe some sense will prevail because of them.
02:20
Because of JUIF or other parties,
02:23
their dissolutionary politics will not be a part of it.
02:27
This is what we thought.
02:28
But now the dissolution is within PTI.
02:31
And there is a fight going on,
02:34
and they are fighting each other.
02:36
Sometimes one is running, sometimes another.
02:38
So now I think this phase of the Grand Alliance has gone a little far.
02:44
Mr. Nasir, you are from the Noon League.
02:48
Mr. Rana, you are from the People's Party.
02:51
So they often call it the beauty of democracy,
02:54
that there are differences of the party,
02:56
so what if they come forward and talk.
02:58
Do you think that this is the right way,
03:00
that you are giving a statement like this on the podcast,
03:03
then you are giving other statements,
03:05
then even if someone is keeping quiet.
03:07
So what should be the mechanism in the parties
03:09
to co-operate with such things?
03:11
If there is an increase in the number of people,
03:13
then these issues come out.
03:17
Are you talking about PTI?
03:19
Yes, I am talking about PTI.
03:21
What should be the mechanism?
03:23
The issue with PTI is that,
03:25
everything revolves around Mr. Khan,
03:30
and it is obvious that he is not out yet,
03:33
so only a few people are meeting him,
03:36
and then he comes forward and says,
03:38
we talked about this.
03:40
But they say that revolving around a central figure
03:44
is the same in your party.
03:46
If we talk about the Noon League,
03:48
it is the same there as well.
03:52
But look, we have some other things as well,
03:54
that there are other senior leaders,
03:56
no one goes to Shah Mehmood Qureshi,
03:58
he also has a position.
04:00
Similarly, there are some other people
04:02
who are outside or inside,
04:04
but then that confusion is arising,
04:06
for example, what is being discussed now,
04:08
on the statement of Mr. Sawati,
04:10
if he wants to talk to the army chief,
04:12
then what is the harm in that?
04:14
He is the army chief of Pakistan,
04:16
he is not talking to the army chief of India.
04:18
There should not be any confusion in this.
04:20
Secondly, you talked about the unity,
04:22
the unity of the opposition,
04:24
in which Mr. Maulana is also there,
04:26
it is obvious that PTI has an important role,
04:28
there will be other people as well.
04:30
I am talking about the unity
04:32
of the opposition,
04:34
there will be other people as well.
04:36
I am seeing that the day this protest
04:38
will take place,
04:40
how will there be slogans being raised,
04:42
because Mr. Maulana,
04:44
when he talks about the election,
04:46
he says that I have been scolded,
04:48
in that 90% of the seats are those,
04:50
which were won by the people
04:52
supported by PTI.
04:54
So on one side,
04:56
PTI will be raising slogans
04:58
against PMLN, PP and others,
05:00
and on the other side,
05:02
PTI will be raising slogans
05:04
against PMLN, PP and others,
05:06
and on the other side,
05:08
PTI will be raising slogans
05:10
against PTI as well.
05:12
And that too,
05:14
standing with Mr. Gandapur.
05:16
These things,
05:18
will be very surprising.
05:20
Now I will take the answer
05:22
from the Senator.
05:24
Mr. Waleed,
05:26
how does it make you feel,
05:28
when you see that the things
05:30
are being talked about
05:32
in the form of an interview,
05:34
and if Bani was outside,
05:36
he wouldn't have appreciated that.
05:38
Do you think so?
05:42
What Mr. Shah said,
05:44
that Mr. Imran Khan
05:46
has very limited access,
05:48
and he is being limited.
05:50
In this,
05:52
I totally agree with him.
05:54
And what is further,
05:56
I want to say two things.
05:58
Number one,
06:00
when the access is limited,
06:02
because of that,
06:04
all kinds of challenges
06:06
are faced.
06:08
Now, there was a meeting,
06:10
about which no person
06:12
said anything.
06:14
But in the newspapers,
06:16
people are saying,
06:18
one newspaper is saying,
06:20
that Mr. Khan gave this idea,
06:22
and the other two people
06:24
who went to meet him,
06:26
and this is a well-known newspaper,
06:28
the other newspaper is saying,
06:30
sources,
06:32
it is not taking the name of sources,
06:34
that the two representatives
06:36
of PTI went to meet him,
06:38
and they convinced Mr. Khan,
06:40
that we should have this discussion.
06:42
Now,
06:44
whoever makes a narrative,
06:46
whoever leaks out the narrative,
06:48
there is no truth in it,
06:50
I consider it as a storm in a cup of tea.
06:52
Now, in KP,
06:54
where PTI is in power,
06:56
people are fighting each other,
06:58
and there is no equality.
07:00
Thank you very much,
07:02
Senator Waleed Iqbal,
07:04
Nasir Hussain Shah,
07:06
Rana Hassan Afzal.
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