When Kejriwal Met Kamra

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In 2019, Arvind Kejriwal told Kunal Kamra why the Amit Shah-Narendra Modi combine was dangerous for India.

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00:00Now if you see, the presence of national parties is slowly shrinking.

00:08The biggest reason for this is conflict of interest.

00:29But when you came in your political career, you started with fighting corruption.

00:33But today, in 2019, on the crux of another Lok Sabha election, do you think corruption

00:38is India's biggest problem or communalism?

00:41I think today, the existence of this country is in danger.

00:45In the last five years, the amount of hatred that has been created in society, I don't

00:53think such an experience has ever happened in 70 years.

00:57The BJP people, wherever they saw a fault line, they caught it there and created hatred.

01:04They created hatred between Jats and non-Jats in Haryana.

01:08In Maharashtra, they created hatred between Marathas and non-Marathas.

01:11In Gujarat, they created hatred between Patels and non-Patels.

01:13All over the country, they created hatred between Hindus and Muslims.

01:15They created hatred between Hindus and Christians.

01:17But today, you say that Delhi should get the status of a complete state.

01:20How will it get it?

01:21What is its procedure?

01:22And what effect will it have on a common man's life?

01:25Delhi people choose their government, but the government has to get permission from

01:31the central government before doing anything.

01:34Today, even if you go to the capital of a developing country, how beautiful the capital

01:40is.

01:41Today, there is garbage everywhere in Delhi.

01:43It is dirty.

01:44Why?

01:45Because the city of Delhi comes right in the center.

01:48They don't listen to us.

01:49It is not accountable to the people.

01:52Delhi is known as a crime capital.

01:54It is known as a rape capital.

01:56Tourists don't like to come from outside.

01:58Why?

01:59Because Delhi police is not accountable.

02:01Delhi police directly reports to the Prime Minister and Home Minister.

02:04Now, if something wrong happens in your house, then you will go to meet the Home Minister

02:09and the Prime Minister.

02:10They don't listen.

02:11You can meet the CM.

02:12You can meet your MLA.

02:13They don't listen.

02:14So, if Delhi becomes a full state, then Delhi police will become accountable to the people.

02:20It will be directly accountable to the people.

02:22Were you the first person to ask for 70 years of independence?

02:26No.

02:27BJP has promised for 20 years.

02:29Congress has promised for 20 years.

02:31But their promises were false.

02:33Congress has been promising since 1992.

02:35But in 2004, Congress said, make our seven MPs.

02:39We will make it a full state.

02:41People made the seven MPs of Congress.

02:43They didn't make it.

02:45Then in 2009, they said, make the seven MPs again.

02:48Then we will make it.

02:49People made the seven MPs again.

02:51They didn't make it again.

02:52Similarly, BJP has been saying for the past 20 years.

02:54And in 2014, Dr. Harshvardhan said, if Modi becomes the Prime Minister,

03:01then his first signature will be to make Delhi a full state.

03:05A lot of people say that Delhi is the capital of the country.

03:08Parliament is here.

03:09A lot of things are happening here for national security.

03:12So, giving a full statehood was not possible in 70 years because it is the national capital.

03:16No.

03:17This is the excuse they give.

03:19The first thing we have to say is that the NDMC area,

03:22all the offices of the central government, all the embassies, parliament, everything,

03:27all of this comes under the NDMC area.

03:30Keep the NDMC area with you.

03:32That is 3% of total Delhi.

03:3497% of Delhi is outside it.

03:37Give that 97% of Delhi a full statehood.

03:40Exactly the same model is in the US.

03:43There is Washington DC and there is Washington.

03:46There is a youth of the country which is totally against this two-party system

03:51and it's totally against the national party system only.

03:54You can choose whoever you want in your state.

03:57You can do whatever you want with the central government.

04:00There is a crop which is expecting decentralization of politics.

04:03You also talked a lot about this.

04:05The power should go back in the hands of the people.

04:08What do you think AAP's role will be in the future to make that dream come true?

04:14Where do you see this going?

04:15I think it has already started to happen to a large extent.

04:18If you see, the presence of the national parties is slowly shrinking.

04:23There is a big reason for that.

04:25Conflict of interest.

04:26Let me give you an example in Delhi.

04:28In Delhi, the central government increased the rent of the metro.

04:33The people of Delhi did not want the rent of the metro to increase.

04:36The AAP is opposing that the rent of the metro should not increase.

04:41But the seven MPs of the BJP cannot oppose.

04:46Because Modi will scold them.

04:49That I have increased the rent, how are you opposing?

04:52So the aspirations of the local people can be fulfilled by the regional party.

04:57The message that you have to send just to the Congress party

05:01because the assembly election is going to be a big mess with them.

05:06So what message do you have to give?

05:09Why do I have to give a message to the Congress?

05:11The Congress should live in its own fun.

05:14We have to work with the people of the country.

05:17So this is my message to the people of the country.

05:20When you go to vote this time, you can be from any party.

05:24You can be from BJP, you can be from Congress, you can be from AAP,

05:27you can be from any other party.

05:29Just keep one thing in mind, keep the country in front.

05:32And it is very important for the country at this time

05:35that the combination of Modi and Amit Shah should not come back.

05:38It is very dangerous for the country.

05:40If not Modi, then who? Rahul Gandhi?

05:45This is a national subject now.

05:48I think this election is an election to defeat the combination of Modi and Amit Shah.

05:57This election is not an election of who will become the Prime Minister.

06:01It is not an election to make the Prime Minister.

06:03I had received an analogy from someone.

06:06He said that if there is a tumor in your body,

06:09then you will not ask, if not tumor, then who?

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