Big showdown in Patna over Waqf overhaul, Lalu Yadav joins AIMPLB's protest against Bill

India Today

The All India Muslim Personal Law Board has staged a protest against the proposed Waqf Amendment Bill in Patna, calling it anti-Muslim and discriminatory.

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00:00The All India Muslim Personal Law Board has taken to the streets to protest the Waqf Amendment Bill.

00:08Now in poll-bound Bihar, opposition parties, especially the RJD, joined the protest.

00:13The protesters are calling the proposed Waqf Amendment Bill blatantly anti-Muslim and discriminatory.

00:20The government insists the bill is for the better management of Waqf properties

00:24and that it is vested interests that want to control these properties

00:30and don't want that Muslim masses should benefit from Waqf properties.

00:35The board is being made more broad-based, including bringing in women in the management.

00:41We'll get you all sides of the story, but first this report by India Today's Rohit Singh from Ground Zero.

00:48Muslim organizations are hitting the streets to protest against the proposed Waqf Amendment Bill.

00:56The All India Muslim Personal Law Board held a protest at Gardhani Bagh in Patna on Wednesday.

01:01The event was attended by Bihar's opposition leaders.

01:17They are trying to destroy democracy.

01:21At any cost, we are trying not to pass this bill.

01:28If we fight together, God willing, we will win.

01:35The Waqf is a major issue in Bihar, the only major state going to polls this year.

01:41Joint Parliamentary Committee Chief urged protesters to wait for the bill to be tabled.

01:46We heard the views of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board.

01:53We incorporated their concerns.

01:57But in spite of this, the way they are opposing the amendment bill,

02:05it is their strategy.

02:09The BJP slammed the opposition over its stand.

02:13The Bihar Parliamentary Assembly's election in 2025

02:17is an attempt to satisfy a particular group of people.

02:26It is unfortunate that they are trying to divide the people of Bihar on a religious basis.

02:34With the government expected to table the Waqf Amendment Bill in this session of Parliament,

02:40many Muslim bodies are planning protests.

02:42AIMIM Chief Asaduddin Owaisi had joined a protest in Delhi recently.

02:48The Waqf Amendment Bill will set new rules for management of properties

02:52dedicated exclusively for religious or charitable purposes under Islamic law.

02:57Waqf boards control 8.7 lakh properties spanning 9.4 lakh acres across India

03:04with an estimated value of 1.2 lakh crore rupees.

03:08There are 32 Waqf boards including two Shia Waqf boards in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar.

03:13With Rohit Singh in Patna, Bureau Report, India Today.

03:20Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath has spoken strongly in favour of Waqf reforms.

03:25He's hit out at the opposition. He's also hit out at those who resist change

03:32saying in the past governments were blackmailed by vested interests

03:37and by very powerful entities in the name of Waqf. Listen in.

04:02Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath has misused his property for his personal gain.

04:07He has sold it at a very high price.

04:10What's the situation today?

04:12He has sold property to many people for a single property.

04:16There is a dispute over it.

04:18There will be all kinds of problems due to it in the future.

04:22For those who have settled there and for those who have given money.

04:26Because their savings will be lost.

04:28So, this can't be a stupid thing to do.

04:33Secondly, they have seen any property.

04:36See, they used to blackmail the governments.

04:42At different times, in the name of Waqf,

04:46they have taken all kinds of stupid decisions.

04:49Especially, that the land which the Waqf will say is theirs, will be taken as theirs.

04:54Are we stupid? What kind of a country is this?

05:24And then again, by Justice Rajinder Sachar Committee in 2005.

05:28So, is this resistance to change?

05:30Joining me on India First is Yasmeen Faruqi,

05:33National Secretary, General Secretary of the SDPI.

05:36And Shehzad Poonawalla represents the Bharatiya Janata Party on the broadcast.

05:40And I want to begin by asking Shehzad Poonawalla,

05:43Maulana Fazlur Rahim Mujadidi,

05:46the General Secretary of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board,

05:49has insisted that Masjids, Khankas, Madrasas,

05:54they are all under attack and they are barely hanging by a thread.

05:58He claims that the government is oppressing Muslims

06:01under the guise of these laws,

06:03chipping away at religious freedom. Sir, respond.

06:10See, Gaurav Ji, in the name of Waqf,

06:12Bhadkao Bhaijaan Committee is once again at work.

06:15You must remember, one year ago,

06:17I came to debate with you, Yasmeen Ji.

06:20At that time, there was a narrative that

06:22if this CA law is introduced,

06:24then the citizenship of Muslims will be snatched away.

06:26Gaurav Ji, now it's been a year,

06:28it's been more than a year since this law has been notified.

06:30How many Muslims have lost their citizenship?

06:32Now, remove the CA and replace it with Waqf.

06:35If Waqf comes, then see, the mosques will be snatched away,

06:38there will be a bulldozer at our graveyard,

06:40there will be a civil war.

06:42So, Waqf is an excuse

06:44to instigate riots.

06:45Let me give you a few examples.

06:47Who proposed this amendment in Waqf?

06:49Was it Gaurav Sawant?

06:51Was it Narendra Modi?

06:52Was it the Satchar Committee report?

06:54Was it the JPC report of Rehman Khan?

06:57Was it the Aga Khani Samaj?

06:59Was it the Sajjada Naseen of Dargaon?

07:01Because the powers that this Waqf has,

07:0437 lakh acres of land has come,

07:06but do you know how much is the income of this Waqf?

07:08Of the entire Waqf?

07:10163 crores.

07:1237 lakh acres means,

07:1437 times the size of Mumbai.

07:16Can you imagine the rental income of one Mumbai?

07:20The entire Waqf property is getting income of 163 crores.

07:24Satchar report said it should get at least 12,000 crores,

07:27which means this battle is not between Gaurav Sawant and Yasmin over Waqf,

07:31it is between the Bewa,

07:33it is between the Gatim,

07:35it is between the Anaat of the Muslim community

07:37versus the land grabbers.

07:39So, today Yasmin ji is standing with the land grabber.

07:41Today Yasmin ji is standing with the land grabber.

07:43And Yasmin ji, you should not be standing with the land grabber.

07:46A very big accusation.

07:48Yasmin Faruqi ji, give an answer.

07:50How is the Waqf law an attack on the religious freedom of Muslims?

07:54And Shahzad Poonawalla is saying that

07:56Yasmin Faruqi is standing with the land mafia.

08:01And he is giving an example of Rajinder Satchar committee report of 2006,

08:06which is saying that you are getting only 163 crores,

08:09you should have got 12,000 crores.

08:11Where did that money go?

08:18Shahzad Poonawalla,

08:20son, stop accusing me.

08:23I am much older than you.

08:25You are directly accusing me that I am standing with the land mafia.

08:29Okay, I forgive you.

08:31No problem.

08:32Now let's come to the report of the Satchar committee.

08:34If you read,

08:35in the report of the Satchar committee,

08:37a lot of land has been taken by the government.

08:40You are talking,

08:42your second question was that

08:45money is coming less from the Waqf board,

08:49while the income should be more.

08:51Absolutely right.

08:52I agree with that.

08:53You tell me one thing,

08:55who makes the chairman in the Waqf board?

08:58The government.

09:00The government in any state,

09:05whether it is the government of Congress or BJP,

09:09they do not make it a Muslim.

09:12No one makes it a Khanqa.

09:15The chairman is from the government.

09:18And the vice chairman, the whole committee,

09:21all those things are made by the government.

09:24So tell me,

09:26the entire hand is of the government, isn't it?

09:28Now one thing was said,

09:30selling.

09:31No land of the Waqf can be sold.

09:35Because this is the rule of Waqf.

09:37What is Waqf?

09:39First, let's see what is Waqf?

09:43Waqf is the land or property,

09:46which the kings, kings,

09:49or those who had personal land,

09:51they made Waqf.

09:53That's why you are absolutely right,

09:55that orphans, widows,

09:58and school mothers, etc., etc.

10:01Now you tell me one thing,

10:03today if you are saying this,

10:05they will not leave.

10:07Where are the school mothers being snatched from?

10:09All India Muslim Personal Law Board is saying

10:11that if this land is gone,

10:13or if the Waqf Amendment Bill comes,

10:15then the school mothers will be shut down,

10:17the universities will be shut down.

10:18This is spreading lies,

10:19or spreading fear, Madam?

10:21Yes.

10:22No, no, no.

10:24Neither lies are being spread,

10:25nor fear is being spread.

10:27You tell me one thing,

10:29today if I say this,

10:31that in your Ram Mandir,

10:33keep four Muslims as members,

10:35in that temple,

10:36keep four Muslims as members,

10:38will you agree?

10:40What are you saying?

10:41Waqf is totally a religious thing.

10:44In that, the first thing is this,

10:48the second is to change the name of Waqf.

10:51First, we are talking about Waqf,

10:53we are talking about Waqf,

10:54we went to NRC and that.

10:56Now, if I sit in a debate on that,

10:58it will be very long,

10:59but I will talk on the point.

11:01No, but you both,

11:02they said that

11:03first lies were spread in his name,

11:05now lies are being spread in his name.

11:07And this was my question to you,

11:08which you did not answer.

11:10No, lies were spread.

11:11My question was that

11:12the universities will be shut down.

11:13No, I have given.

11:14Which university will be shut down?

11:16Which Madrasa will be shut down?

11:17Yes, yes, absolutely.

11:18Which Madrasa will be shut down?

11:19Absolutely, absolutely.

11:22Absolutely, absolutely.

11:23If you are giving power to someone,

11:25in today's judgment,

11:27two judgments,

11:28you are taking money from a judge's house

11:30and you are a judge of Allahabad High Court,

11:33if you see their decision

11:34in the name of a woman,

11:36then my heart was shaken.

11:38No, I am coming to the same issue.

11:40So, if you give full power to a collector

11:43who does not have time,

11:45who has his whole district,

11:48he does not have time

11:49that he will listen to you.

11:51You are giving him power.

11:52I never move away from that issue.

11:55You make a whole JCC.

11:58You remove all the work from them.

12:01You are not paying attention to it.

12:03All India Muslim Personal Law Board

12:05has to say that

12:06this interference of the government

12:10on the WAF board

12:12will be strongly opposed.

12:14The government wants to control the land,

12:17wants to put the collector there

12:18who does not have time,

12:20if he does not have time,

12:21how will there be justice?

12:26First of all,

12:27my mother's name is Yasmeen.

12:29So, any woman named Yasmeen,

12:32I was not directly accusing her.

12:34There is a way of saying

12:36that Yasmeen is taking the side

12:39of the land grabbers.

12:40So, this is not a personal accusation.

12:42Yasmeen Apa herself knows

12:43that I respect her a lot.

12:44Look, the second thing I want to say,

12:46look Yasmeen Apa,

12:47I asked you two or three specific things.

12:49I asked you whether it is right or not

12:52that there are many intellectuals

12:54of the Muslim society.

12:55Let me give you an example.

12:57Anwar Manipadi,

12:59he was the head of the Karnataka Minority Commission.

13:03He reported that

13:04out of the 54,000 acres of land in Karnataka,

13:0729,000 acres were seized

13:09by the big leaders of the Karnataka Congress.

13:11Property worth 2 lakh crores.

13:13Is this true or false?

13:15Is it true or false

13:17that from Bihar to every place,

13:19the land of the Waqf,

13:20even though it is the third largest land bank,

13:23that land is not sold,

13:24but in different ways,

13:26a nexus of land mafia,

13:28Waqf officials,

13:29and some other people,

13:31political people,

13:32use that nexus together.

13:33And that property never comes to us.

13:36Now, the changes that are being brought,

13:38all these changes are those changes

13:40that different commissions,

13:41committees and reports recommended.

13:43But because Modi does it,

13:45you have to oppose it.

13:46I was not going to the CAA,

13:48I was saying that this pattern has become the same.

13:50Now, the last thing he said,

13:51the interference of Muslims,

13:53Hindus are being non-interfered with.

13:56Look, the temple committee,

13:58the trust,

13:59or the mosque committee,

14:01no Hindu is being made in the mosque committee.

14:03But in the Waqf board,

14:04like Tarakeshwar is made in the temple board,

14:07a Muslim, a Firaat Hakeem,

14:09like in the trust of many temples,

14:12Hindu IAS officers become its chairman,

14:15then our Waqf board is also made

14:17by the Parliamentary Act.

14:18With the Parliamentary Act,

14:19there is a place for MP.

14:21MP is not a Hindu-Muslim,

14:22MP is a representative.

14:23He is a representative of the constitution.

14:24Why are you looking at him as a Hindu-Muslim?

14:26Tomorrow you will say that I am a Muslim,

14:28so I want a Muslim MP.

14:29Waqf is a constitutional,

14:31a statutory system.

14:33If a statutory position is being made

14:35of an MP or a district collector,

14:37then this is a part of our constitutional system.

14:40And one last thing,

14:4110 seconds more.

14:42Apa, I just want to ask you one question.

14:44Tell me honestly,

14:46tell me 10 places where

14:48hospitals are running in the name of Waqf,

14:50where poor people are being treated for free.

14:53You say that we do not have to ask anyone,

14:57so this is a great opportunity

14:59that if the proper management of Waqf property is done,

15:01then we can take care of our people

15:03with our Waqf property.

15:05What is the problem in this?

15:06Yasmeen ji wants to answer.

15:07Why are the land grabbers

15:08playing with their hands?

15:10Yasmeen Farooqui ji, answer.

15:15Shahzad,

15:19let me tell you one thing.

15:21You just repeated what I said.

15:23You must have seen.

15:24You said that the people of Congress

15:26have that property.

15:27What did I tell you?

15:28Because the government

15:30always has the ruling.

15:32The chairman is of the government.

15:34And even today,

15:35you are bringing the same thing

15:36and putting it on your head.

15:37It is a cubicle.

15:38There is a magistrate in it,

15:39a magistrate of the government.

15:41And if you have a case,

15:43it is decided there.

15:45And it is not that it is decided

15:47by being biased.

15:48The law decides according to the law.

15:51It looks at the papers.

15:52And I will tell you 10 such files,

15:55Shahzad,

15:56which have gone to the High Court

15:58and the Supreme Court.

15:59This is a delusion.

16:00That is wrong.

16:01Secondly,

16:02you are talking about Karnataka.

16:04I am not talking according to a lot of information.

16:07Here in Jaipur,

16:08I will tell you 5 hospitals.

16:10You come.

16:11Which are running in the name of Waqf

16:13and are running for free.

16:14How many schools and colleges

16:16are there in Hyderabad?

16:18And you tell me one thing,

16:20all the Nizams running in Hyderabad

16:22are running on the land of Waqf.

16:24There is a very big office in Karnataka

16:27where our NGPI's office is also there.

16:31There were so many offices.

16:33Yasmeen Farooqui ji,

16:34if a report came in 1976

16:40that the Waqf Board is under the control of Muttawalis

16:45and has to be freed from their clutches.

16:48If someone has a problem

16:50with a Waqf order,

16:52against it,

16:53against the tribunal,

16:55if he goes to the High Court,

16:57then what problem can someone have with this?

17:00What problem can someone have with going to court?

17:02So why is this being resisted?

17:06Why is this being considered government interference?

17:09No, no, when is this being done?

17:11The All India Muslim Personal Law Board

17:13is resisting?

17:14If you say,

17:15I can tell you 10 files

17:19that have gone to the High Court

17:21and the Supreme Court.

17:22I can tell you about Rajasthan.

17:24If you say,

17:25I can tell you the numbers I have written.

17:28This is a delusion and wrong.

17:30So why is this being resisted?

17:32What is the reason for this resistance?

17:35The reason is that

17:39the norms that you have read,

17:4340 or whatever the norms are,

17:45all the interference is of the government.

17:48Why does the government want

17:50to go to the collector

17:52and make people cry?

17:53To take over the land and make people cry?

17:56When a board is sitting and working,

17:58look at the amendment,

18:00let me tell you first.

18:02People used to give on a 99 year lease.

18:04Now there is a cinema house in Jaipur.

18:08It was given on a 99 year lease.

18:10There was an amendment in this.

18:12Everyone appreciated it.

18:14No, it will not be given on a 5 year lease.

18:17You have brought these government norms

18:20that you will have to pay this much of rent

18:23and you will have to pay this much

18:24and the time will come in the board.

18:26So look, this is dishonesty.

18:28This is against professional management.

18:30The intention of the government is bad.

18:32The intention of the government is bad.

18:34Shehzad Poonawalla, that's a big charge.

18:36He is saying that the land of worship,

18:38the land of loyalty,

18:40should only be in the hands of Muslims.

18:42The government wants to take over the land.

18:48First of all,

18:50the amendment that is being discussed today,

18:52the accountability of Muttawalli

18:54has been fixed.

18:56Yasmeen, let me complete my point.

18:58The accountability of Muttawalli has been fixed.

19:00This means that if he

19:02goes against the interests of the Waqf

19:04or the interests of the Muslim community

19:06and deals with them from behind

19:08and misuses the property through corruption,

19:10then there will be a legal action against him.

19:12Are you against this?

19:14Point number two, there is one more thing.

19:16By the way, you people

19:18give a lot of blessings to the constitution.

19:20You make a lot of amendments.

19:22Apaji, listen to me.

19:24You make a lot of amendments.

19:26I am not saying anything.

19:28I am not saying anything.

19:30For example, the Taj Mahal.

19:34If you say that the Taj Mahal is ours,

19:36then the Taj Mahal is yours.

19:38The land of the Mahakum is ours.

19:40The land of the parliament is ours.

19:42Our village is 1,500 years old.

19:44The Quran was revealed 1,400 years ago

19:46and you are claiming 1,500 years old land.

19:48These unlimited parts,

19:50these are not with Hindus.

19:52These are not with Jains.

19:54These are not with Christians.

19:56People who make amendments

19:58say and threaten that

20:00Shaheen will make a garden.

20:02Now there is a threat that

20:04Inshallah, we will become one and win.

20:06Someone says that there will be a civil war here.

20:08So you tell me, is this a constitutional way?

20:10Is this a constitutional way?

20:12That whoever made it,

20:14should I keep my property?

20:16Yasmeen ji,

20:18and Shehzad for joining me here

20:20in India today, many thanks.

20:22There is a rather unfortunate controversy

20:24about one of the bravest sons of the soil,

20:26Maharana Sangha

20:28or Rana Sangram Singh of Mewar.

20:30He ruled for 20 years

20:32from 1508 to 1528.

20:34He fought and won

20:36multiple battles against all odds,

20:38including against the combined

20:40armies of Malwa and Gujarat.

20:42He defeated Ibrahim Lodi.

20:44He defeated Mehmood Khilji too.

20:46Even the Mughal invader Babur's

20:48forces were in awe of his valor.

20:50Sadly,

20:52Samajwadi Party MP Ramjilal Suman

20:54called Rana Sangha a traitor.

20:56And this led to widespread

20:58anger and outrage. Earlier today,

21:00Karni Sena staged a massive protest outside

21:02Ramjilal Suman's residence.

21:04They went with a bulldozer. They vandalized cars

21:06and furniture outside his house.

21:08The police resorted to lathi charge,

21:10detained some of the protesters.

21:12The Karni Sena, instead of resorting to

21:14violence, should have simply

21:16listed out details of his

21:18unparalleled valor

21:20of this brave son of the Rajputana,

21:22this brave son of Mewar.

21:24Maharana Sangha is

21:26reported to have fought. Historians

21:28say he fought over 100

21:30battles in his life and lost just

21:32two. Under his 20-year

21:34rule, the borders of Mewar

21:36expanded in all directions from Gujarat

21:38in the west to Agra in Uttar Pradesh,

21:40Chanderi, Gwalior. They were all a part

21:42of his empire.

21:44But let me list out just some of the battles

21:46that he fought and won. The battle

21:48of Khatoli in 1517, for

21:50example. He defeated Ibrahim

21:52Lodi of Delhi.

21:54He won the battle. Of course, he lost at

21:56Amin and Ai, but he continued

21:58to fight till the end and won.

22:00Then 1519,

22:02the battle of Dholpur.

22:04He defeated Ibrahim Lodi once again

22:06in this battle. 1519,

22:08he fought another battle at

22:10Gagran, and there he defeated

22:12Mehmood Khilji too.

22:14This was where Malwa

22:16was under his control.

22:18Then 1520, the battle of Idar.

22:20He defeated the Gujarat

22:22Sultan Muzaffar Shah too

22:24in this battle.

22:261527, the battle of Bayana.

22:28Defeated Babur's advanced forces.

22:301527,

22:32and this was that unfortunate battle,

22:34the battle of Khanwa. This

22:36changed the tide of history.

22:38He fought against Babur.

22:40Sadly, did not win

22:42but this is where technology

22:44is believed to have played a very

22:46critical role. This is where India

22:48should always keep technology

22:50and then win wars.

22:521528, battle of Chanderi.

22:54Rana Sangha was planning

22:56another attack on Babur. He wanted to get

22:58rid of the invaders. Sadly,

23:00he died around

23:02this time. Some claim he was poisoned

23:04by some of his own. There are others

23:06who say these were battle injuries.

23:0880, 90 battle injuries and yet

23:10he would continue to battle on.

23:12This was the brave son of

23:14Rajputana, of the Sisodia

23:16vansh, of the Sisodia dynasty,

23:18of Mewar. And with such

23:20brave sons of the soil

23:22are called traitors, many

23:24say how dare they.

23:26That is all I have for you on India First this evening.

23:28Many thanks for watching.

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