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Kamala Harris and Joe Biden Spar Over Busing — Again
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3/25/2025
The feud between Harris and Biden over his record on busing was the highlight of the first Democratic debate. Here's round two.
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You have also been quite critical of Vice President Biden's policies on race, specifically
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on the issue of busing in the 1970s, having benefited from busing when you were a young
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child.
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Vice President Biden says that your current position on busing, you're opposed to federally
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mandated busing, that that position is the same as his position.
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Is he right?
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That is simply false.
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And let's be very clear about this.
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When Vice President Biden was in the United States Senate working with segregationists
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to oppose busing, which was the vehicle by which we would integrate America's public
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schools, had I been in the United States Senate at that time, I would have been completely
00:46
on the other side of the aisle.
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And let's be clear about this.
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Had those segregationists their way, I would not be a member of the United States Senate.
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Cory Booker would not be a member of the United States Senate.
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And Barack Obama would not have been in a position to nominate him to the title he
01:00
now holds.
01:02
And so on that issue, we could not be more apart, which is that the vice president has
01:09
still failed to acknowledge that it was wrong to take the position that he took at that
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time.
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Now, I would like to also talk about this conversation about Eric Garner, because I
01:19
too met with his mother.
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And one of the things that we've got to be clear about is that this president of the
01:24
United States, Donald Trump, while he has been in office, has quietly been allowing
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the United States Department of Justice to shut down consent decrees to stop pattern
01:34
and practice investigations on that case.
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We also know that the Civil Rights Division, this is important, the Civil Rights Division
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of the United States Department of Justice said charges should have been filed.
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But this United States Department of Justice was usurped.
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And I believe it is because that president did not want those charges to go forward.
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And they overrode a decision by the Civil Rights Division of the United States Department
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of Justice.
01:57
Under my administration, the Civil Rights Division will reign and there will be independent
02:01
investigations.
02:02
Vice President Biden, I want to give you a chance to respond to what Senator Harris just
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said.
02:06
When Senator Harris was the attorney general for eight years in the state of California,
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there were two of the most segregated school districts in the country, in Los Angeles and
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in San Francisco.
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And she did not.
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I didn't see a single solitary time.
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She brought a case against them to desegregate them.
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Secondly, she also is in a situation where she had a police department when she was there
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that in fact was abusing people's rights.
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And the fact was that she in fact was told by her own people that her own staff that
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she should do something about and disclose to defense attorneys like me that you in fact
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have been the police officer did something that did not give you information would expropriate
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your your your client.
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She didn't do that.
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She never did it.
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And so what happened?
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Along came a federal judge and said, enough, enough.
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And he freed a thousand of these people.
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If you doubt me, Google a thousand prisoners freed Kamala Harris.
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Thank you, Vice President Biden and Senator Harris, your response.
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This is simply not true.
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And as attorney general of California, where I ran the second largest Department of Justice
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in the United States, second only to the United States Department of Justice, I am proud of
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the work we did, work that has received national recognition for what has been the important
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work of reforming a criminal justice system and cleaning up the consequences of the bills
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that you passed when you were in the United States Senate for decades.
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It was the work of creating the one of the first in the nation initiatives around reentering
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former offenders and getting them jobs and counseling.
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I did the work as attorney general of putting body cameras on special agents in the state
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of California.
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And I'm proud of that.
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I want to.
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