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Deaf TikToker fights for presidential debate interpreters
Brut America
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3/25/2025
"The deaf community should have access to the debate."
Erin Rosenfeld is hard of hearing and for her, following a live presidential debate is close to impossible. Here’s why she's fighting for televised ASL interpreters...
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Some people are saying, like, oh, you can just wait to watch it until it has captions.
00:08
And that's not the point, because the Deaf community should have access to the debate
00:13
and other important things at the same time that hearing people have it.
00:30
Okay, so I'm really frustrated right now because I'm trying to watch the presidential debate,
00:51
but there's not an ASL interpreter.
00:55
There's nothing.
00:57
It's live TV, so closed captioned subtitles don't work.
01:02
They're really delayed.
01:04
It's not fair. It's not right.
01:06
And we need to push for change and push for interpreters to be at all the debates
01:15
and on the screen the whole time.
01:27
I just left, like, my family room and I went and I just recorded it because I wanted to
01:37
just express my frustration.
01:39
I'm finally, like, old enough to vote and I didn't even have equal access to what was happening.
01:46
And also, I was thinking about other Deaf people, because even with the closed captions
01:55
that were delayed, at least I could understand some things.
01:58
But a lot of people in the Deaf community don't have equal access to English
02:05
because of language deprivation and other problems.
02:10
So I just knew that it was not going to be accessible for a huge part of America.
02:17
And if it's live TV, the closed captions or the subtitles are just really delayed
02:23
and often they have a lot of mistakes.
02:27
And so it's not accessible for Deaf, hard of hearing people to watch.
02:47
Because it's on Facebook and it's online, it's not accessible for everyone.
02:54
Some people maybe don't have, like, Wi-Fi that's good.
03:00
Or maybe they only have a TV and don't have, like, a phone or a laptop.
03:06
And it's...
03:09
So D-PAN, yes, is a wonderful resource.
03:14
It's great and I'm really thankful for that.
03:17
But all the news channels need to have equal access and interpreters.
03:25
It's not enough to just have one option in one place.
03:29
That's not even accessible for everyone.
03:31
People saying, like, oh, I never realized that.
03:34
I didn't even think about my privilege to not have to think about interpreters.
03:40
And so it's been a really good reaction.
03:45
And I think it's a good thing.
03:48
I think it's a good thing.
03:51
I think it's a good thing.
03:54
I think it's a good thing.
03:57
I think it's a good thing.
04:00
But at the same time, it's hard because some people are saying, like,
04:06
oh, you can just wait to watch it until it has captions.
04:12
And that's not the point.
04:14
Because the Deaf community should have access to the debate and other important things
04:19
at the same time that hearing people have it.
04:23
Maybe there's some Deaf people who need interpreters
04:27
who haven't decided yet who they're voting for
04:30
and now they can't make, like, a knowledgeable decision.
04:37
And maybe it'll force people or encourage Deaf people,
04:43
like the Deaf community, Deaf people,
04:45
to not be involved in politics because of that,
04:50
because of just a lack of access.
04:55
Not having interpreters really shows just the lack of awareness
05:00
about the Deaf community and the lack of being prepared.
05:05
And it just shows kind of ableism and audism.
05:12
Audism, which is, like, oppression and discrimination against Deaf people,
05:16
like the Deaf community, Deaf people.
05:25
It's 2020. They know that they should have interpreters.
05:28
They recently, um, we had to, like, have legal action.
05:33
We had to, like, sue for interpreters for coronavirus news and won that.
05:42
So they know, they're aware that they need to have interpreters.
05:47
They're aware that they need to have interpreters.
05:50
They just don't do it.
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