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Michelle Monaghan's 'The White Lotus' shoot was soundtracked by Frank Ocean
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07/03/2025
Acclaimed actress Michelle Monaghan, who plays famous-actress-on-holiday Jaclyn in 'The White Lotus' season three, says the music of Frank Ocean may contain clues for the plot. Someone stick 'Blonde' on!
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00:00
Old friends.
00:01
Long time friends, not old.
00:04
What happens in Thailand stays in Thailand.
00:07
Oh, what does that mean?
00:08
It means we're not dead yet.
00:10
Amen, amen.
00:11
Hi, I'm Alex from NME, and today I'm joined by a very exciting guest
00:15
from the new season of The White Lotus.
00:17
It's Michelle Monaghan. How are you doing?
00:18
Hey, I'm well. How are you?
00:20
Really good, thanks.
00:21
Good.
00:22
Okay, first question.
00:23
Out of your friends and family,
00:25
who was the most excited when you told them you were going to be in The White Lotus?
00:29
You know what? I think my husband was most excited.
00:32
We've watched the previous seasons together,
00:35
and he watched me go through the process, of course,
00:38
of auditioning and getting the job,
00:41
and so we were really excited together,
00:44
and it was an opportunity for him and my children to also come visit me in Thailand,
00:49
so we were celebrating for many reasons.
00:51
Yeah, that's not a bad reason, is it?
00:53
Not a bad reason.
00:54
Are you allowed to let your husband and family read the script?
00:58
No, he didn't—
00:59
No, no one's—
01:00
In fact, he doesn't want to know anything.
01:02
He doesn't know anything about it.
01:03
Oh, really?
01:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't know anything about the show,
01:05
and in fact, he came to visit me and spent all this time in Thailand,
01:09
and he was adamant that everybody be quiet about what was going on.
01:13
He never came and watched.
01:14
Just walking past the set going like this.
01:15
Yeah, never came and watched the set.
01:16
He wanted to be surprised, so.
01:18
He knows who my character is,
01:20
but he doesn't know the storyline at all.
01:22
So we've mentioned your character Jacqueline.
01:24
Yes.
01:25
She's on holiday with old-time friends.
01:26
Yeah.
01:27
She's a well-known actress,
01:28
trying and failing not to be recognized while on holiday.
01:32
Yes.
01:33
Did you read that and think,
01:34
oh, well, I can do that?
01:35
Yeah.
01:36
It's kind of true.
01:37
It's kind of true.
01:39
You know, I think at this time—
01:43
I've been working for 25 years,
01:44
I've been in the industry for a long time.
01:46
I pretty much—
01:47
I will say that I'm always genuinely surprised
01:50
when people do recognize me
01:51
because I feel like I fly pretty much under the radar
01:54
for a lot of reasons.
01:56
But I'm also not naive enough
01:58
not to think that people are going to say hello,
02:01
you know, and say nice to meet you
02:03
or something like that, so.
02:05
And it's always really charming, you know.
02:07
It means a lot to me.
02:08
I'm really proud of my career,
02:09
and people are really nice.
02:12
There is a scene in episode one
02:14
where you're recognized by the pool.
02:15
Yes.
02:16
Where does that rank on the weirdest places
02:18
you've been recognized?
02:19
On the ick?
02:20
On the ick?
02:21
Yeah, yeah, on the ick.
02:22
I've just learned about the ick.
02:23
I would say being recognized at the pool
02:25
is a 10 on the ick.
02:27
Oh, really?
02:28
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:29
I thought maybe sort of in the mid-range.
02:32
Yeah, no, I'd say it's like a 10 on the ick.
02:35
I always feel a little bit vulnerable
02:37
because I'm probably with my family,
02:40
and, you know, I'm kind of pretty private
02:43
and probably not fully clothed,
02:46
so that's why it ranks a little higher up.
02:49
Because I read an interview once,
02:51
I think it was with Frank Ocean,
02:53
and he was recognized.
02:54
What?
02:55
You know the cubicles you go into
02:57
in a shopping center to try on the clothes?
02:59
Yes.
03:00
Someone reached around and was like,
03:01
hello, Frank, while he was trying to get changed.
03:03
Yes.
03:04
That's another level, isn't it?
03:05
Yeah, that's an extra deep level.
03:08
Okay, so maybe I'll take it back to a seven, right?
03:11
Because I've got to reserve some room
03:13
for some serious ick.
03:14
For Frank Ocean.
03:15
But I can't believe you just said Frank Ocean
03:17
because Frank Ocean was my playlist on repeat.
03:19
Oh, really?
03:20
For this show?
03:21
For this show.
03:22
For like six months.
03:23
I'm a huge Frank Ocean fan.
03:24
Yeah.
03:25
And I could not...
03:26
Are you talking Blonde or Channel Orange?
03:27
All of it.
03:28
Oh, okay.
03:29
All of it, all of it, all of it.
03:30
Yeah, it was just on repeat, so...
03:32
That's interesting.
03:33
I'm going to go through all the songs now
03:34
and try and work out plot details.
03:35
Yeah, no, no, no.
03:36
Yeah, it was just, it was just,
03:38
it was just really resonating with me.
03:40
I don't know if it was the character thing
03:42
or if it was just like me in this,
03:44
you know, foreign place and...
03:46
Have you managed to see him live?
03:48
No, but I would love to.
03:49
It's quite difficult.
03:50
It's difficult.
03:51
You kind of don't know where he's going to pop up.
03:53
And, you know, I love that about him.
03:55
He's a bit of an enigma.
03:57
And I think that's great.
03:58
He's a very talented artist.
04:00
We're still the same people we were in the 10th grade.
04:02
You're always disappointing.
04:03
And you're always fake.
04:05
And you're vain and selfish.
04:07
I did see on your TikTok, actually,
04:08
that you got to take your daughter to the Eras tour.
04:11
I did.
04:12
I did.
04:13
How was that?
04:14
That was so special.
04:15
It was so special.
04:17
And I'm going to tell you, quite honestly,
04:19
as much as I love the concert,
04:20
I was such a huge fan of the concert.
04:22
For me, personally, the buildup of the concert
04:25
and the way that it bonded my daughter and I
04:29
in the months prior,
04:30
like, we were making bracelets together.
04:32
We were listening to all the songs together.
04:35
She was gathering the playlists from, like,
04:38
the previous, you know,
04:39
guessing what the surprise songs were going to be.
04:41
Like, all of that was so special.
04:44
It was like the summer of Taylor.
04:46
And then, you know, the cherry on top
04:49
going to that concert
04:50
and just getting to watch her face take it in.
04:53
You know, it was her first big concert ever.
04:55
And, you know, I won't ever forget her face.
04:58
Yeah.
04:59
What were your seats like?
05:00
Because we did an interview with Hugh Grant.
05:02
Yeah.
05:03
And he was talking about slamming tequila shots
05:04
with Travis Kelce.
05:05
I'm imagining your face wasn't like that.
05:06
Oh, no, no, no.
05:07
It wasn't.
05:08
We were up high against, like, front row up high.
05:12
We didn't have anyone in front of us.
05:15
So we were just up high.
05:17
We weren't close to the stage at all.
05:19
But those were the tickets that were available.
05:21
And we had so much fun standing in line with people,
05:25
like, just getting merch.
05:26
You know, we stood in line for an hour, you know,
05:28
just visiting with people and hearing their stories
05:30
and where they came from.
05:31
I mean, it's just a real testament to the community
05:35
that she brings together.
05:36
You know, it's really, really extraordinary.
05:39
I'm going to ask this to everyone.
05:40
Yeah.
05:41
Do you have a real-life Holiday from Hell story
05:43
that could be turned into a future season
05:45
of The White Ladies?
05:46
You know what?
05:47
I don't think I do.
05:48
And I've been asked this now a couple of times,
05:50
and I'm going to really think hard on it.
05:51
I'm not going to make up a bullshit lie.
05:53
It's a good thing that you don't.
05:54
It's a good thing.
05:55
I really haven't.
05:56
You know, when you think of, like, you know,
06:00
anything on my own I can handle, I'm pretty patient.
06:04
I think the only time that I remember, you know,
06:08
having a difficult time is that I had a really,
06:10
really sick child, and then our flight got canceled,
06:13
and then we just got, you know, got stuck.
06:16
No murder.
06:17
No, no.
06:18
No murder.
06:19
No bodies found anywhere.
06:20
No.
06:21
And I'm going to think on that,
06:22
because there is a term, and it's an odd term,
06:25
and I can't think of it right now,
06:27
so it's a little anticlimactic,
06:28
but it often happens in hotels, right,
06:31
where somebody passes away in a hotel,
06:33
and they have a specific term that they call that.
06:36
And, you know, the owner of one of our hotels
06:38
that we were in going,
06:39
oh, no, no, no, that's quite common.
06:40
It's so common that we call it this.
06:42
And I was like, hmm.
06:43
I'm so glad that it's, I never experienced that.
06:47
So am I, otherwise we wouldn't be doing this.
06:49
Yeah, exactly.
06:50
Final question, then.
06:52
There are very few characters,
06:54
and I don't want to spoil anything this season,
06:56
that get to come back for another season.
06:58
Yes.
06:59
What are you going to say to Mike White to be like,
07:02
I need to be in season four?
07:04
Oh, I think he knows I would walk
07:08
to the edges of the earth with him again
07:11
any time on anything.
07:13
Yeah, I mean, if he ever wanted to have me back
07:15
for another season, I would in a heartbeat.
07:17
Is there a holiday destination you would suggest?
07:19
Oh, gosh.
07:21
No, because he chooses the best places.
07:24
He chooses the best places.
07:26
I have an idea of, like, maybe where season four might be,
07:30
and I'm just like, ooh, God, that sounds good.
07:33
Thanks so much for chatting to us.
07:35
Yeah, thank you.
07:38
Someone once said,
07:41
the secret to life
07:44
is knowing when to stop.
07:48
No bigger go home, right?
07:50
Mm-hmm.
07:51
In a goddamn body bag.
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